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McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« on: October 18, 2013, 10:26:23 AM »
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 12:53:27 PM »
Quote from: rangerrebew on October 18, 2013, 10:26:23 AM
"I think we have fully now acquainted our new members with what a losing strategy that is," McConnell told The Hill.

Meanwhile, the winning strategy is obviously to get $2.9B of OPM spent to ensure your re-election...


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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2013, 12:08:07 PM »
Quote from: GourmetDan on October 18, 2013, 12:53:27 PM
Meanwhile, the winning strategy is obviously to get $2.9B of OPM spent to ensure your re-election...

Now, now.  McConnell claims he had nothing to do with that and I think we should believe him. :3:
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2013, 12:53:11 PM »
I think a really good negotiating strategy is to tell your opponent at the outset "I will fold at this point"! That's a winner every time! / sarc
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2013, 02:00:29 PM »
Quote from: GourmetDan on October 18, 2013, 12:53:27 PM
Meanwhile, the winning strategy is obviously to get $2.9B of OPM spent to ensure your re-election...
:amen:
I just want to see him gone.
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2013, 02:16:09 PM »
Quote from: Bigun on October 19, 2013, 12:53:11 PM
I think a really good negotiating strategy is to tell your opponent at the outset "I will fold at this point"! That's a winner every time! / sarc

I'm not so certain that wasn't the strategy all along; McConnell, Tammy Fay Boehner, and Reid getting together to squeeze the Tea Party.  The best way, hold the "deal" until the last minute so both "sides" can save face and let the Tea Party fight it.  Then both sides can blame the people who won't follow the party line (I include republicans and democrats in congress as the party} and then debase them after the "settlement."  No one can tell me they wouldn't do that. 0052
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2013, 02:28:07 PM »
Quote from: GourmetDan on October 18, 2013, 12:53:27 PM
Meanwhile, the winning strategy is obviously to get $2.9B of OPM spent to ensure your re-election...

It's almost like money shouldn't be polluting politics, huh?
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2013, 04:11:02 PM »
Meanwhile, the winning strategy is obviously to get $2.9B of OPM spent to ensure your re-election...

It's almost like money shouldn't be polluting politics, huh?

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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2013, 05:22:17 PM »
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2013, 05:24:52 PM »
Quote from: Rapunzel on October 21, 2013, 05:22:17 PM
both parties are corrupt and neither party want to do anything to help us, it is all about their power and keeping that power.

So why not vote third party? If you believe what you just said, you must see that it is illogical to vote for ANY candidate entrenched in the two party system, including Republican candidates. If our politicians have lost interest in doing anything but obeying their masters, what other options do we have?
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2013, 05:38:07 PM »
Quote from: Liberal_Spy on October 21, 2013, 05:24:52 PM
So why not vote third party? If you believe what you just said, you must see that it is illogical to vote for ANY candidate entrenched in the two party system (including Republican candidates). If our politicians have lost interest in doing anything but obeying their masters, what other options do we have?

Because we are taking over one of the parties as we speak! From within! Witness Ted Cruz, Mike, Lee, Rand Paul and a host of others in the House!

We don't need or have time for no stinkin third party!!

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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2013, 05:39:53 PM »
Quote from: Bigun on October 21, 2013, 05:38:07 PM
Because we are taking over one of the parties as we speak! From within! Witness Ted Cruz, Mike, Lee, Rand Paul and a host of others in the House!

We don't need or have time for no stinkin third party!!

I actually like a lot of what Rand Paul has to say. I hope you're right, and that you can remove the corruption.  ^-^ I still think we will need a third party.
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2013, 06:06:11 PM »
Quote from: Bigun on October 21, 2013, 05:38:07 PM
Because we are taking over one of the parties as we speak! From within! Witness Ted Cruz, Mike, Lee, Rand Paul and a host of others in the House!  We don't need or have time for no stinkin third party!!

Don't you think the the Republican Party 'leadership' will force the conservatives out of the GOP and into a 3rd party rather than let the GOP be taken over by true conservatives?  Their goals seem to be more aligned with ensuring Democrat Party control of government than anything else.


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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2013, 06:07:39 PM »
Quote from: GourmetDan on October 21, 2013, 06:06:11 PM
Don't you think the the Republican Party 'leadership' will force the conservatives out of the GOP and into a 3rd party rather than let the GOP be taken over by true conservatives?  Their goals seem to be more aligned with ensuring Democrat Party control of government than anything else.

Nope! It's going to be a hostile takeover and it's already well underway!
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2013, 10:24:37 PM »
Quote from: Bigun on October 21, 2013, 05:38:07 PM
Because we are taking over one of the parties as we speak! From within! Witness Ted Cruz, Mike, Lee, Rand Paul and a host of others in the House!

We don't need or have time for no stinkin third party!!
Absolutely...AND, we don't want to guarantee democrat wins.
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2013, 10:57:48 PM »
Quote from: Bigun on October 21, 2013, 06:07:39 PM
Nope! It's going to be a hostile takeover and it's already well underway!
Conservatives have no other option.
They're not going 3rd party because they know that's a sure formula for disaster.
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