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McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« on: October 18, 2013, 10:26:23 AM »

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McConnell: No More Shutdowns Over Obamacare


Thursday, October 17, 2013 04:20 PM




By: Todd Beamon

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell made it clear on Thursday that repealing Obamacare would never be used by Republicans again to bring the federal government to a halt.

 "One of my favorite old Kentucky sayings is there's no education in the second kick of a mule," McConnell told The Hill. "The first kick of a mule was when we shut the government down in the mid-1990s — and the second kick was over the last 16 days."

 "There will not be a government shutdown," the Kentucky Republican added.

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 The Obamacare strategy was pushed by several young congressional Republicans backed by the tea party — including freshman Sen. Ted Cruz, who spoke against the healthcare plan for more than 21 hours on the Senate floor last month — which led to a 16-day partial shutdown of the government and jeopardized the nation's borrowing authority.

 "I think we have fully now acquainted our new members with what a losing strategy that is," McConnell told The Hill.

 The federal government reopened on Thursday after a battle-scarred Congress approved a bipartisan measure to end the shutdown and avert the possibility of an economy-jarring default on U.S. obligations.

 President Barack Obama signed the measure early Thursday after the House and Senate passed it late Wednesday.

 The legislation funds the government through Jan. 15 and extends the nation's debt ceiling through Feb. 7. It ended a brawl with Republicans who tried to use the must-pass legislation to mount a last-ditch effort to derail the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and demand concessions on the budget.

 The White House directed all agencies to reopen promptly and in an orderly fashion. More than 350,000 furloughed federal employees across the country were expected to return to work on Thursday.

 Standard & Poor's estimated the shutdown has taken $24 billion out of the economy, and the Fitch credit rating agency warned on Tuesday that it was reviewing its AAA rating on U.S. government debt for a possible downgrade.

 McConnell told The Hill that the fight to stop the healthcare law would not take place in January, either, even though he and many other Republicans "hate, detest, and despise Obamacare."

 Noting that some Democrats would like to repeal the 2.3 percent medical-device tax that is used to finance the healthcare law, McConnell said Republicans are out of luck on ending or altering Obamacare before 2017 "unless Democrats get so shaky about parts of it.

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 "They may, depending upon the amount of heat they get from their constituents because of rising premiums, because of job loss, because of the chaos of the exchanges, they may be open to changes," he said.

 "But full-scale repeal is obviously something that's not going to be achievable until I'm the majority leader of the Senate and we have a new president," McConnell said.

 In several exclusive interviews with Newsmax in recent weeks, McConnell related the "math problem" Republicans face in the Senate in trying to repeal Obamacare.

 The GOP holds 46 seats in the upper chamber, versus 52 for Democrats. The Senate also has two independents, and they caucus with the Democrats.

 "We demonstrated once again that every single Republican is in favor of defunding Obamacare," he told Newsmax after senators backed a measure to temporarily fund the government that Obama later rejected. "We had a solid party-line vote. Our difficulty, of course, in achieving that has to do with simple mathematics."

 Meanwhile, McConnell told The Hill that he took over the negotiations leading to the final agreement after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and the White House rejected the latest offer from House Republicans.

 "By the time I came in [Wednesday], it was clear to me that it was up to me to get us out of the government shutdown and make sure we didn't default," he told The Hill.

 He said he related the party's untenable position to fellow Republican senators privately via football analogies, looking toward being in a better position to seek cuts in spending and entitlement programs next year.

 "So I met with my members. I said, 'Look, I think we all know I have a weak hand here,'" McConnell told The Hill. "I'm on my own two-yard line. The offensive line is a little shaky, and what best I think we can do is get off a punt here to try to get into a better field position."

 But his requirements for the deal were that it not raise taxes nor jeopardize the spending cuts imposed through sequestration.

 "We didn't raise taxes and we didn't bust the caps, but we'll be back at it in January and February, which is why I call it a punt, with better field position to fight again another day," McConnell told The Hill.


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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 12:53:27 PM »
"I think we have fully now acquainted our new members with what a losing strategy that is," McConnell told The Hill.

Meanwhile, the winning strategy is obviously to get $2.9B of OPM spent to ensure your re-election...


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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2013, 12:08:07 PM »
Meanwhile, the winning strategy is obviously to get $2.9B of OPM spent to ensure your re-election...

Now, now.  McConnell claims he had nothing to do with that and I think we should believe him. :3:
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2013, 12:53:11 PM »
I think a really good negotiating strategy is to tell your opponent at the outset "I will fold at this point"! That's a winner every time! / sarc

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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2013, 02:00:29 PM »
Meanwhile, the winning strategy is obviously to get $2.9B of OPM spent to ensure your re-election...
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2013, 02:16:09 PM »
I think a really good negotiating strategy is to tell your opponent at the outset "I will fold at this point"! That's a winner every time! / sarc

I'm not so certain that wasn't the strategy all along; McConnell, Tammy Fay Boehner, and Reid getting together to squeeze the Tea Party.  The best way, hold the "deal" until the last minute so both "sides" can save face and let the Tea Party fight it.  Then both sides can blame the people who won't follow the party line (I include republicans and democrats in congress as the party} and then debase them after the "settlement."  No one can tell me they wouldn't do that. 0052
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2013, 02:28:07 PM »
Meanwhile, the winning strategy is obviously to get $2.9B of OPM spent to ensure your re-election...

It's almost like money shouldn't be polluting politics, huh?

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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2013, 04:11:02 PM »
Meanwhile, the winning strategy is obviously to get $2.9B of OPM spent to ensure your re-election...

It's almost like money shouldn't be polluting politics, huh?

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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2013, 05:22:17 PM »
Meanwhile, the winning strategy is obviously to get $2.9B of OPM spent to ensure your re-election...

It's almost like money shouldn't be polluting politics, huh?

Repeal the 17th Amendment

Read Switzer's new book. He was just on Hannity's radio show discussing it - the book has over 600 footnotes to document what he writes about.. basically he said what most of us already know - both parties are corrupt and neither party want to do anything to help us, it is all about their power and keeping that power.
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2013, 05:24:52 PM »
both parties are corrupt and neither party want to do anything to help us, it is all about their power and keeping that power.

So why not vote third party? If you believe what you just said, you must see that it is illogical to vote for ANY candidate entrenched in the two party system, including Republican candidates. If our politicians have lost interest in doing anything but obeying their masters, what other options do we have?
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2013, 05:38:07 PM »
So why not vote third party? If you believe what you just said, you must see that it is illogical to vote for ANY candidate entrenched in the two party system (including Republican candidates). If our politicians have lost interest in doing anything but obeying their masters, what other options do we have?

Because we are taking over one of the parties as we speak! From within! Witness Ted Cruz, Mike, Lee, Rand Paul and a host of others in the House!

We don't need or have time for no stinkin third party!!

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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2013, 05:39:53 PM »
Because we are taking over one of the parties as we speak! From within! Witness Ted Cruz, Mike, Lee, Rand Paul and a host of others in the House!

We don't need or have time for no stinkin third party!!

I actually like a lot of what Rand Paul has to say. I hope you're right, and that you can remove the corruption.  ^-^ I still think we will need a third party.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2013, 05:40:24 PM by Liberal_Spy »

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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2013, 06:06:11 PM »
Because we are taking over one of the parties as we speak! From within! Witness Ted Cruz, Mike, Lee, Rand Paul and a host of others in the House!  We don't need or have time for no stinkin third party!!

Don't you think the the Republican Party 'leadership' will force the conservatives out of the GOP and into a 3rd party rather than let the GOP be taken over by true conservatives?  Their goals seem to be more aligned with ensuring Democrat Party control of government than anything else.


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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2013, 06:07:39 PM »
Don't you think the the Republican Party 'leadership' will force the conservatives out of the GOP and into a 3rd party rather than let the GOP be taken over by true conservatives?  Their goals seem to be more aligned with ensuring Democrat Party control of government than anything else.

Nope! It's going to be a hostile takeover and it's already well underway!

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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2013, 10:24:37 PM »
Because we are taking over one of the parties as we speak! From within! Witness Ted Cruz, Mike, Lee, Rand Paul and a host of others in the House!

We don't need or have time for no stinkin third party!!
Absolutely...AND, we don't want to guarantee democrat wins.
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Re: McConnell: no more shutdowns over Obamacare
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2013, 10:57:48 PM »
Nope! It's going to be a hostile takeover and it's already well underway!
Conservatives have no other option.
They're not going 3rd party because they know that's a sure formula for disaster.
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