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Republicans Walked Into Obama's Trap By Karl Rove
« on: October 17, 2013, 03:46:59 PM »

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Re: Republicans Walked Into Obama's Trap By Karl Rove
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2013, 03:48:20 PM »
Groan! PLEASE!

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Re: Republicans Walked Into Obama's Trap By Karl Rove
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2013, 03:56:20 PM »
"It's time Republicans remembered that bad tactics produce bad outcomes".

That's smug advice coming from a man who lost all of his races last year.
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Re: Republicans Walked Into Obama's Trap By Karl Rove
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2013, 04:34:06 PM »
"It's time Republicans remembered that bad tactics produce bad outcomes".

That's smug advice coming from a man who lost all of his races last year.

Yeah! Exactly so!

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Re: Republicans Walked Into Obama's Trap By Karl Rove
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2013, 04:51:37 PM »
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Consider where things might be if a minority of House Republicans had not stayed wedded to the defund tactic once its authors admitted they couldn't get it through the Senate.

The House would have passed a continuing resolution that funded the government at the lower levels agreed to in the 2011 Budget Act, probably with some ObamaCare fixes. These could have included making Members of Congress live under the law; requiring income verification before providing an insurance subsidy; and repealing or delaying some of the health law's obnoxious taxes. There was even an outside chance of delaying the individual mandate.
Yet they tried that. The defunding measure only was tried once, and when it got gutted in the Senate, it was abandoned. The Senate showed the same obstinate approach to every attempt to fix Obamacare that they did with defunding. To suppose that they could have pulled concessions when the facts clearly show that they tried that and did not is nothing more than a bold-faced lie.

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Re: Republicans Walked Into Obama's Trap By Karl Rove
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2013, 05:01:25 PM »
"It's time Republicans remembered that bad tactics produce bad outcomes".

That's smug advice coming from a man who lost all of his races last year.

Lost them in 2008, 2010 and 2012.  Why does anyone listen to him.

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Re: Republicans Walked Into Obama's Trap By Karl Rove
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2013, 05:02:51 PM »
Yet they tried that. The defunding measure only was tried once, and when it got gutted in the Senate, it was abandoned. The Senate showed the same obstinate approach to every attempt to fix Obamacare that they did with defunding. To suppose that they could have pulled concessions when the facts clearly show that they tried that and did not is nothing more than a bold-faced lie.

The fact is that the DEMOCRATS were intent on shutting the government down, planned for it in fact, and NOTHING the House did would have been good enough!

The biggest problem we have is that most are totally ignorant about Constitutional balance of powers and the history of how that has worked until recently.
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Re: Republicans Walked Into Obama's Trap By Karl Rove
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2013, 05:16:42 PM »
Love him or hate him, Rove is right. Republicans walked into Obama's trap. Whatever side of the Republican divide you were on, the outcome is clear. They won, we lost.
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Re: Republicans Walked Into Obama's Trap By Karl Rove
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2013, 05:23:09 PM »
Love him or hate him, Rove is right. Republicans walked into Obama's trap. Whatever side of the Republican divide you were on, the outcome is clear. They won, we lost.

I disagree. Rove knows McConnell, McCain, Graham, etc. have any disagreement with Obama.  They like being in the minority and going along with him, quietly getting their kick backs and perks as well as the TV adulation and getting re-elected time and againl... This is why they hate the Tea Party - we are rocking their cushy boat... we actually want to save this country from those people - in both parties as well as their "consultants" who are getting rich keeping helping these traitors get re-elected.  Anyone thinks they care about America or our financial situation is wrong... they don't care, if they did they would have joined with Cruz and Lee, not fought them and THEN we would have had leverage against the Democrats.

BTW think things are bad now... these same men now are going to go full steam ahead with amnesty... this will assure they are in the minority forever.. they don't care!!!!!!!


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