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Right-wing nuts nab new way to sabotage Obamacare
« on: October 17, 2013, 11:07:41 AM »
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Re: Right-wing nuts nab new way to sabotage Obamacare
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2013, 11:39:35 AM »
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Re: Right-wing nuts nab new way to sabotage Obamacare
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2013, 11:46:00 AM »
Not sure why you're on a GOP/conservative message board carrying water for Salon & the libs, but I chose just a couple of Salon's points for comment.


Not discredited, and you & Salon know it, sinkspur.  I suppose if the media did its job, more than just a few people would know that Lois Lerner resigned last month after being informed she was to be fired.  People in the federal government don't get forced out for a "discredited scandal".


True, but they've been in the foreground of people's lives and will only continue to be in the foreground.  People don't need the media to tell them that their premiums and/or deductibles are going up significantly in exchange for less coverage.  A very small percentage of people will end up paying less out of pocket for premiums and deductibles, and the rest of the cost of their coverage is just extracted without them having seen it first.

Did you even read the article?

Salon is bitching that the income verification requirement agreed to by the Democrats will bring the exchanges to their knees in a way that will make the current plodding performance look like the speed of light.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: Right-wing nuts nab new way to sabotage Obamacare
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2013, 12:04:59 PM »
Did you even read the article?

Salon is bitching that the income verification requirement agreed to by the Democrats will bring the exchanges to their knees in a way that will make the current plodding performance look like the speed of light.

Yes, and I commented on things in the article.  If you're particularly sensitive about comments on the other stuff you should have left it out.

Since you seem sensitive about someone not commenting on what a piece of excrement that 0bamacare is, I'll oblige you, but with 2 quotes from 0bama's hometown newspaper: 

"Last spring, President Barack Obama said "there will still be, you know, glitches and bumps" in the rollout of the new system. But what we're seeing now is no glitch or bump. There is a growing mountain of evidence that Obamacare has fundamental problems in design and implementation." 

What are those fundamental problems?  Are they limited to the computer system used to sign people up?  Apparently not:

"The deeper problems of cost and coverage in Obamacare are going to require an admission by the administration that this government management of the health care market is extraordinarily complicated and will be very costly for many people. The law has to change." 
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-15/opinion/ct-obamacare-edit-1016-20131016_1_obamacare-health-insurance-insurance-premiums/2

It's not the Republicans' fault that 0bama and the Dems rammed through such a monstrosity without bipartisan support.  The Dems are foolish to expect anything but resistance from their opposition, especially when all of the problems--the basis of their opposition--were foretold by the GOP and have come to pass.
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Re: Right-wing nuts nab new way to sabotage Obamacare
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2013, 12:23:13 PM »

It's not the Republicans' fault that 0bama and the Dems rammed through such a monstrosity without bipartisan support.  The Dems are foolish to expect anything but resistance from their opposition, especially when all of the problems foretold by the opposition have come to pass.

Exactly so. But Salon and other redoubts of Progressive polemicism will call you a "right-wing nut" or worse, for suggesting that ObamaCare is anything but "settled law", and further, will insist that any Republican effort to address its manifold problems amounts to "sabotage".

The ideological rigidity of the Progressives flows from their Manichean world view (black/white; good/evil) and from their historical determinism (progress only marches in one direction - toward socialism specifically, and collectivism in general; any attempt to alter that course is deemed "reactionary").   

Conservatives cannot truly negotiate or compromise in the political sphere with people who adhere to such views, because the meaning of compromise has an entirely different purpose for Progressives than for conservatives. Those on our side use the process as a means by which to correct, amend or improve legislation or governance. Their side uses compromise as a tactic by which to further their agenda, regardless of the practical effect (often, failure) of their policies.
Liberalism isn't really about making the world a better place. It's about reassuring the elites that they are good people for wanting to rule over it.


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