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BREAKING: It’s Over …
« on: October 16, 2013, 10:34:51 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2013, 10:37:40 PM »
Beans and rice.  Rice and beans.

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Re: BREAKING: It’s Over …
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2013, 11:04:12 PM »
Yeas:
Republican   87
Democratic   198
   
Nays:
Republican   144
Democratic   0

Not Voting/Present:
Republican   1
Democratic   2
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2013, 11:04:42 PM »
The 87 sellouts:

Bachus
Barletta
Benishek
Bilirakis
Boehner
Boustany
Brooks (IN)
Buchanan
Calvert
Camp
Cantor
Capito
Coble
Coffman
Cole
Cook
Cotton
Cramer
Crawford
Crenshaw
Daines
Davis, Rodney
Dent
Diaz-Balart
Fitzpatrick
Fortenberry
Frelinghuysen
Gardner
Gerlach
Gibson
Griffin (AR)
Grimm
Guthrie
Hanna
Harper
Hastings (WA)
Heck (NV)
Herrera Beutler
Issa !
Jenkins
Joyce
Kelly (PA)
King (NY)
Kinzinger (IL)
Kline
Lance
Latham
LoBiondo
McCarthy (CA)
McHenry
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
Meehan
Miller, Gary
Murphy (PA)
Nunes
Paulsen
Pittenger
Reichert
Ribble
Rigell
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Runyan
Schock
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Stivers
Terry
Tiberi
Tipton
Upton
Valadao
Webster (FL)
Whitfield
Wittman
Wolf
Womack
Young (AK)
Young (IN)
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2013, 11:18:24 PM »
Issa - and people ask why he doesn't scream for a special investigator into Benghazi...
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2013, 11:20:49 PM »
Very few names I recognize.  I'm surprised my rep didn't vote for it since he's been against the shutdown since day 1.  However, he knows he would be voted out in a heartbeat if he back this bill.
 
I say it's time for those who still stand for something to call for a vote of no confidence in Boehner and remove him from the Speakership.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2013, 11:55:33 PM »
My Congressman, or more correctly the guy who supposedly represents the district I live in, is on there. I am not surprised.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2013, 01:26:40 AM »
http://www.redstate.com/cjd87/2013/10/16/backroom-deals-and-lack-of-a-spine/

Backroom deals and lack of a spine.

By: cjd87 (Diary)  |  October 16th, 2013 at 01:27 PM  |  4

RESIZE: AAA

It was announced today that the complete surrender of the GOP is in the works. McConnell got with Reid and gave away the farm, while Boehner is making sure that the House passes the bill with Dem votes first to prevent a filibuster from Ted Cruz and Mike Lee. If you think this wasn’t always the plan you’ve lost your mind.

For those of you wondering what capitulation means here ya go:

ca·pit·u·la·tion

kəˌpiCHəˈlāSHən/

noun

noun: capitulation; plural noun: capitulations

    1.

    the action of surrendering or ceasing to resist an opponent or demand.

    “the victor sees it as a sign of capitulation”

        historical

        an agreement or set of conditions.

         

        See also Republican Leadership

 

 

It was fun while it lasted but now we can rest assured that Obama and Reid got everything they wanted while we get shafted once again by the party “leadership”.

Ted Cruz and Mike Lee forced the GOP hand and gave them a platform to make sure that the train wreck that is Obamacare could be stopped. The problem is and always was that the “leadership” never wanted the fight and had no stomach to make the fight work.

The problem is that Harry Reid got to see the Republican hand before the cards were even dealt. He knew they would never have the spine to force this until he caved. He knew he would never be called on his tactics of never bringing up any of the 14 appropriations bills passed by the House according to law to fund the government. Because of that we are where we are.

The only solace I can take out of this is that John Boehner will probably not be Speaker if the GOP holds the House. Of course that doesn’t help us now. After Jan 1 the subsidies will start flowing and after that good luck convincing people they would be better off not getting that “free money” from the Government.

According to the Washington Times this was an embarrassment.

For Republicans, the deal was more about getting an embarrassing couple of weeks behind them than in being able to claim victory in a deal that they felt compelled to make.

The sad part is that it is true. The last two weeks have been an embarrassment for the Republican party. Not however for Conservatism. Let me explain. See I was raised to believe that if you try to worry about what everyone thinks about you then you will never be willing to fight for anything.

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That ladies and gentlemen is the problem with the Republican party “leadership”. They actually care what people think about them. Except they care about what the wrong people think about them.


Anyone else ready for that 3rd Party yet? I know I am.

Note to the GOP, do not ever ask me for a dime. Do not send me mailers, do not advertise to me. You are officially dead to me and I will make sure that everyone who votes for this failure is removed from office.
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Re: BREAKING: It’s Over …
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2013, 03:14:55 AM »
The 87 sellouts:

I'm Shocked!  Shocked I say! 

This has been the most unspectacularly predictable turn of events.  Where is that picture of Lucy and the football...I can almost hear the mighty "Wuuaaaaaaaggghhh!"  But it's not the GOPe acting as Lucy.  It's Obama saying "Whose your Daddy?"  I know it's disappointing to have reality slap me in the face.  I feel your pain.  But let us admit there was no grass roots uprising.  There have been no Tea Party protests bigger than a bring your own dish to pass pot luck gathering.  The American people are against us.

Those congressmen you listed are the GOPs vulnerable seats mostly.  Those Congressmen could be replaced with rats next year.  Does anyone believe it is possible these congressmen listened to their constituents, and they maybe believe they have a responsibility to the people who voted for them to represent their wishes?  :shrug: maybe? :dx1:  They might even believe it is their constitutional duty. :patriot:

My rat congressman Tammy Baldwin voted for the deal.  She says her constituents told her to compromise and vote that way.  at least that is what my Magic 8 Ball tells me.  "It is decidedly so."  I don't think any rat voted against the deal. 
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2013, 03:26:34 AM »
My congressman voted AGAINST the deal.  Problem is, never know what he'll do next.
Ran as a conservative to cut spending.  Fund raised with Cantor.  Has not cut a cent I know of.  Roll of the dice with this guy.  What to do in 2014?

Almost better to have a dem there--at least we know EXACTLY what we got.

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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2013, 03:41:21 AM »
My congressman voted AGAINST the deal.  Problem is, never know what he'll do next.
Ran as a conservative to cut spending.  Fund raised with Cantor.  Has not cut a cent I know of.  Roll of the dice with this guy.  What to do in 2014?

Almost better to have a dem there--at least we know EXACTLY what we got.
I couldn't disagree with you more.  Why would you want someone you know will reject your views and vote against your wishes rather than be pleasantly surprised sometimes?  Being represented by a socialist lesbian has been no joy I assure you. 

Rooting for rats is all the rage these days  I might have to try it sometime.  Since the GOPe appears to be impeding a conservative take over of the GOP some have suggested a 3rd party as the way to go, but perhaps the solution is a conservative take over of the rat party.

maybe not.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2013, 03:53:35 AM »
I couldn't disagree with you more.  Why would you want someone you know will reject your views and vote against your wishes rather than be pleasantly surprised sometimes?  Being represented by a socialist lesbian has been no joy I assure you. 

Rooting for rats is all the rage these days  I might have to try it sometime.  Since the GOPe appears to be impeding a conservative take over of the GOP some have suggested a 3rd party as the way to go, but perhaps the solution is a conservative take over of the rat party.

maybe not.
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Maybe I should rephrase.  Why is it out of the mainstream to expect a Republican to hold to the set of principles he promised to promote?  Instead we get a guy who rolls with the polls.  Crap shoot--every issue.

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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2013, 04:43:35 AM »
Maybe I should rephrase.  Why is it out of the mainstream to expect a Republican to hold to the set of principles he promised to promote?

For me I didn't expect the GOP to hold to the set of principles they promised to promote because of history.  Since the advent of polling to determine the views of the voters both parties have usually compromised their principles in the face of public disapproval.  It is why McCain and Obama could not proceed with action against Syria.  The last time I remember a party ignoring the will of the people completely was Obamacare and the rats paid a heavy price in 2010.  Prior to Obamacare I'm having trouble coming up with another.  Do you recall a time in modern history where either party has not caved to overwhelming public disapproval? 

I hate to bad mouth Reagan because I think he was one of the top 5 US Presidents of all time, but since he is the conservative gold standard...Do you think Reagan compromised his principles just a little by signing all those budgets?  As I recall he promise to reduce the deficit and national debt.
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Re: BREAKING: It’s Over …
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2013, 05:55:57 AM »
I live in New York City's "most conservative district" according to the New York Times. My guy, Grimm, voted with the 87. Of course, a conservative in New York City is like a communist in Alabama.
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Re: BREAKING: It’s Over …
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2013, 04:46:32 PM »
I live in New York City's "most conservative district" according to the New York Times. My guy, Grimm, voted with the 87. Of course, a conservative in New York City is like a communist in Alabama.

I used to like Grimm - actually quite a lot.  But I listened to him on Fox News Sunday two weeks ago totally trashing the Tea Party and he turned me off like a faucet.
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2013, 05:42:25 PM »
I used to like Grimm - actually quite a lot.  But I listened to him on Fox News Sunday two weeks ago totally trashing the Tea Party and he turned me off like a faucet.
It seems like all the NYC GOP'ers are running away from the Tea Party as fast as they can. Joe Lhota, who is the GOP nominee for mayor, has been stumbling all over himself trying to avoid being stuck with the Tea Party label, all while the veritable socialist DeBlasio continues to villify the Tea Party.

Is it any wonder why the whole third-party talk has been spiking lately? Democrats attack the Tea Party, and Republicans attack the Tea Party. No wonder all the third-party types keep saying they're all the same.
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Re: BREAKING: It’s Over …
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2013, 05:47:33 PM »


Is it any wonder why the whole third-party talk has been spiking lately? Democrats attack the Tea Party, and Republicans attack the Tea Party. No wonder all the third-party types keep saying they're all the same.

The Tea Party scares both parties because they are upending the status quo in DC and there is nothing the GOP and the Democrats like more than the status quo.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2013, 06:03:08 PM »
The Tea Party scares both parties because they are upending the status quo in DC and there is nothing the GOP and the Democrats like more than the status quo.

This talk of "scaring" is hilarious.  Sarah Palin "makes them quake with fear."  Ted Cruz "scares the GOPe to death."

Now the Tea Party is supposedly frightening everybody.

That's nonsense.  Nobody's scared of the Tea Party, not after this fiasco and not after the bozos they've put up for Senate the last two cycles.

If the Tea Party decides it's going to oppose everybody in Washington, it will be frozen out completely.

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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2013, 06:28:06 PM »
What do you call someone who is incapable of making a post without trashing Sarah Palin and/or Ted Cruz?

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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2013, 06:32:07 PM »
What do you call someone who is incapable of making a post without trashing Sarah Palin and/or Ted Cruz?



Why did you remove my post?
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2013, 06:33:24 PM »
Why did you remove my post?

I didn't.  I actually hit reply to your post and it told me the post was gone... otherwise I would have actually quoted it in my post.
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2013, 06:35:41 PM »
I didn't.  I actually hit reply to your post and it told me the post was gone... otherwise I would have actually quoted it in my post.

You're lying.  My post was up, and now it's not.  What did you do to it, Rap?

I'm not going to put up with this crap.  Editing out an entire post of mine?
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2013, 06:37:23 PM »
You're lying.  My post was up, and now it's not.  What did you do to it, Rap?

I'm not going to put up with this crap.  Editing out an entire post of mine?

I did not delete your post. I hit quote and it said it said the post was GONE!!!!! So I then hit reply and replied to your post... get off your high horse.
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Re: BREAKING: It’s Over …
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2013, 06:37:50 PM »
You're lying.  My post was up, and now it's not.  What did you do to it, Rap?

I'm not going to put up with this crap.  Editing out an entire post of mine?

Oh, get a grip, Deacon.  I doubt your post was any worse than the usual crap you regurgitate ad nauseum.  Why would she delete it when she COMMENTED on it??

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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2013, 06:41:50 PM »
I did not delete your post. I hit quote and it said it said the post was GONE!!!!! So I then hit reply and replied to your post... get off your high horse.

Why do I not believe you?  How in hell does a post completely vanish?

Myst, what kind of outfit are you running here?  Your moderators are removing entire posts.
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