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The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« on: October 15, 2013, 11:35:31 PM »
For the progressive, there is very little to love about the United States. Washington, Jefferson, Madison? A bunch of rotten slaveholders, hypocrites, and cowards even when their hearts were in the right places. The Declaration of Independence? A manifesto for the propertied classes. The Constitution? An artifact of sexism and white supremacy. The sacrifices in the great wars of the 20th century? Feeding the poor and the disenfranchised into the meat-grinder of imperialism. The gifts of Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Morgan, Astor? Blood money from self-aggrandizing robber barons. Nat Rev

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For the progressive, there is very little to love about the United States. Washington, Jefferson, Madison? A bunch of rotten slaveholders, hypocrites, and cowards even when their hearts were in the right places. The Declaration of Independence? A manifesto for the propertied classes. The Constitution? An artifact of sexism and white supremacy. The sacrifices in the great wars of the 20th century? Feeding the poor and the disenfranchised into the meat-grinder of imperialism. The gifts of Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Morgan, Astor? Blood money from self-aggrandizing robber barons. Nat Rev

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2013, 01:00:53 PM »
For the progressive, there is very little to love about the United States. Washington, Jefferson, Madison? A bunch of rotten slaveholders, hypocrites, and cowards even when their hearts were in the right places. The Declaration of Independence? A manifesto for the propertied classes. The Constitution? An artifact of sexism and white supremacy. The sacrifices in the great wars of the 20th century? Feeding the poor and the disenfranchised into the meat-grinder of imperialism. The gifts of Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Morgan, Astor? Blood money from self-aggrandizing robber barons. Nat Rev

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2013, 02:06:52 PM »
Great speech from a Representative previously unknown to me.  Thanks for posting.  Wish all would take a moment to listen.

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2013, 02:14:52 PM »
Great speech from a Representative previously unknown to me.  Thanks for posting.  Wish all would take a moment to listen.

Tom McClintock is a truly GREAT man who fought what is happening California for years before getting elected to congress! He's one of the good guys for sure!

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2013, 02:26:40 PM »
Tom McClintock is a truly GREAT man who fought what is happening California for years before getting elected to congress! He's one of the good guys for sure!

I remember him from when he ran against Ahnold for governator in the GOP primary of... whenever it was.  I was a Freeper way back then.
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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2013, 04:00:27 PM »
Great speech from a Representative previously unknown to me.  Thanks for posting.  Wish all would take a moment to listen.

Thanks.  Yes, it is worth the time.
For the progressive, there is very little to love about the United States. Washington, Jefferson, Madison? A bunch of rotten slaveholders, hypocrites, and cowards even when their hearts were in the right places. The Declaration of Independence? A manifesto for the propertied classes. The Constitution? An artifact of sexism and white supremacy. The sacrifices in the great wars of the 20th century? Feeding the poor and the disenfranchised into the meat-grinder of imperialism. The gifts of Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Morgan, Astor? Blood money from self-aggrandizing robber barons. Nat Rev

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2013, 04:05:27 PM »
Great speech from a Representative previously unknown to me.  Thanks for posting.  Wish all would take a moment to listen.

Tom McClintock has been a firm conservative forever.  He was one of the candidates in the California recall election who was defeated by The Arnold for the GOP side... too bad Arnold won and McClintock lost, he was the last salvation California had left.

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013, 04:11:14 PM »
Tom McClintock has been a firm conservative forever.  He was one of the candidates in the California recall election who was defeated by The Arnold for the GOP side... too bad Arnold won and McClintock lost, he was the last salvation California had left.

Having lived in CA for more than a decade--the last years being in Leon Panetta's district--I'm afraid I have paid scant attention since those days to what that goofy state is up to.  So, in that respect, I am seriously derelict.  As I stated, I am pleased to learn more about this congressman, and will try to find out which district he represents.

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2013, 04:13:27 PM »
He is in the California 4th district. 


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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2013, 04:19:59 PM »
Rap:  Thank you.  That is a great service for me.  Looks like at first glance is well away from the coastal counties.

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2013, 04:23:51 PM »
Rap:  Thank you.  That is a great service for me.  Looks like at first glance is well away from the coastal counties.

Yes, it is.  Alpine County, Amador County, Calaveras County, El Dorado County, Fresno County. Madera County, Mariposa County, Nevada County, Placer County, Tuolumne Co.

When you get away from the coastal areas and places with a lot of welfare takers like San Bernardino Country (Barstow, Needles, and even Victorville as well as some of the poor high desert comminities,  California is still pretty much a conservative state... 

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2013, 04:50:17 PM »
Yes, it is.  Alpine County, Amador County, Calaveras County, El Dorado County, Fresno County. Madera County, Mariposa County, Nevada County, Placer County, Tuolumne Co.

When you get away from the coastal areas and places with a lot of welfare takers like San Bernardino Country (Barstow, Needles, and even Victorville as well as some of the poor high desert comminities,  California is still pretty much a conservative state... 

Just for the record.  My favorite place of all time (during that period in CA) was absolutely Placerville.  Always thought that would be a great place to live after my years toiling in Silicon Valley.

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2013, 04:54:31 PM »
Just for the record.  My favorite place of all time (during that period in CA) was absolutely Placerville.  Always thought that would be a great place to live after my years toiling in Silicon Valley.

It's been years since I've been to Placerville... 

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2013, 05:01:05 PM »
It's been years since I've been to Placerville...

I sold real estate in the early 1990's in Cameron Park just up the road from there.  All of Placer County and the foothills is very nice living.  I also like the Kerrville area east of Bakersfield.  Remote, pretty, relatively cheap, great weather and less than 3 hours from LA if you ever want to go there.
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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2013, 05:26:00 PM »
McClintock was a state congressman from Ventura County. At the time four of the six southernmost coastal counties voted Republican.

San Diego, Orange, Ventura and San Luis Obispo voted GOP, while Lost Angeles and Santa Barbara voted democrat. Santa Barbara had sent conservatives to congress, too.

Since those days, San Diego, San Luis Obispo and Ventura have voted for Obama in 08 and 12.

Thinking about what takes place when a district/geographic region, shifts from GOP to democrat is worthy of understanding.

People can then ridicule others, be in denial, or decide an action plan to once again win the district.

McClintock picked a district including Sacramento, plus rural places to win. IOW he moved some distance from his home in Ventura county. Some accused him of carpet bagging at the time.

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2013, 05:30:17 PM »
Great speech from a Representative previously unknown to me.  Thanks for posting.  Wish all would take a moment to listen.
I remember McClintock from ten years ago, during the California recall election. He ran in that election as the conservative alternative to Schwarzenegger (the liberal Republican) and Bustamante (the Democrat). He finished a respectable third, out of over 100 assorted kooks.

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Re: The Debt Crisis - Rep Tom McClintock
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2013, 05:34:06 PM »
McClintock was a state congressman from Ventura County. At the time four of the six southernmost coastal counties voted Republican.

San Diego, Orange, Ventura and San Luis Obispo voted GOP, while Lost Angeles and Santa Barbara voted democrat. Santa Barbara had sent conservatives to congress, too.

Since those days, San Diego, San Luis Obispo and Ventura have voted for Obama in 08 and 12.

Thinking about what takes place when a district/geographic region, shifts from GOP to democrat is worthy of understanding.

People can then ridicule others, be in denial, or decide an action plan to once again win the district.

McClintock picked a district including Sacramento, plus rural places to win. IOW he moved some distance from his home in Ventura county. Some accused him of carpet bagging at the time.
To his credit, McClintock was a state legislator before becoming a Congressman, so there's a realistic probability he did live in Sacramento most of the time.


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