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Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« on: October 14, 2013, 06:09:03 PM »

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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2013, 06:22:02 PM »
Unions win, Medical Device Mfgr's win the voters - as usual - get screwed.

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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2013, 09:00:06 PM »
Unions win, Medical Device Mfgr's win the voters - as usual - get screwed.

Unfortunately, you are right.

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The 2.3 percent tax, which has opposition in both parties, is expected to generate about $30 billion in revenue for ObamaCare over the next 10 years.

That depends on whether or not ObamaCare accepts the medical device for a patient. Some people will do without a medical device if it isn't covered.

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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2013, 09:08:17 PM »
As usual, they seem to be looking at which special interests they can reward with any "deals" that emerge with no sympathy whatsoever for the American people, who will be screwed by the spending increase, Obamacare and continued business as usual.
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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2013, 09:11:01 PM »
As usual, they seem to be looking at which special interests they can reward with any "deals" that emerge with no sympathy whatsoever for the American people, who will be screwed by the spending increase, Obamacare and continued business as usual.

And, they wonder why there is a Tea Party! Thank God for that, or we would be totally under the power of the government.

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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2013, 09:12:41 PM »
Any repeal of any tax ought to delight the hearts of conservatives.
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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2013, 09:27:18 PM »
Any repeal of any tax ought to delight the hearts of conservatives.

Not if there is no spending discipline.  Given the size of the debt, in certain scenarios borrow and spend might actually be worse than tax and spend, IMHO.

Your point is well taken, however.  I don't oppose repealing the tax, and did not mean to suggest I was.  I was merely pointing out that any "deal" is now inclusive of special interests, while the individual mandate and other things that might have broader appeal are out the window.   It's business as usual.
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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2013, 09:27:37 PM »
Any repeal of any tax ought to delight the hearts of conservatives.

Where is the relief for ordinary AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!  Hint - there isn't any because we only have a handful of people speaking for us and you hate those people with a passion, never mind without them we would have zero voice in DC.  I'm sick of unions and big business getting all the breaks and the rest of us getting screwed.

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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2013, 09:35:34 PM »
Where is the relief for ordinary AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!  Hint - there isn't any because we only have a handful of people speaking for us and you hate those people with a passion, never mind without them we would have zero voice in DC.  I'm sick of unions and big business getting all the breaks and the rest of us getting screwed.

The removal of the added costs of the tax may benefit you some day if you need any of these devices.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2013, 09:40:36 PM »
Where is the relief for ordinary AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!  Hint - there isn't any because we only have a handful of people speaking for us and you hate those people with a passion, never mind without them we would have zero voice in DC.  I'm sick of unions and big business getting all the breaks and the rest of us getting screwed.

By the way, I don't hate Ted Cruz.  I disagree with his "burn it all down" tactics and his imprudent speech.  Calling fellow Republican Senators Nazi enablers is simply beyond the pale.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2013, 09:43:35 PM »
By the way, I don't hate Ted Cruz.  I disagree with his "burn it all down" tactics and his imprudent speech.  Calling fellow Republican Senators Nazi enablers is simply beyond the pale.

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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2013, 10:30:02 PM »
:threadjack:

Rap brought him up indirectly.  Maybe you didn't notice.
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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2013, 10:34:16 PM »
Rap brought him up indirectly.  Maybe you didn't notice.

And you took the opportunity to bring this up for the 100th time:
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Calling fellow Republican Senators Nazi enablers is simply beyond the pale
, and Cruz never said that, and you know it.

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If you go to the 1940s, Nazi Germany," Cruz said Tuesday during his discourse. "Look, we saw in Britain, Neville Chamberlain, who told the British people, 'Accept the Nazis. Yes, they'll dominate the continent of Europe but that's not our problem. Let's appease them. Why? Because it can't be done. We can't possibly stand against them.'"
« Last Edit: October 14, 2013, 10:41:44 PM by happyg »

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Re: Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2013, 12:10:20 AM »
The White House recently denied labor's top priority on ObamaCare...

I felt at the time this "denial" was nothing more than a public relations ploy as it wouldn't have been politic for the Obama admin to give the delay at that time. Now they have as a reward for union support and it will receive no, or little, media attention.

Now I will make a prediction. The medical device tax will be repealed, not because it is the right thing to do, but because so many Democrat Senators want it repealed as it hurts their constituents. When it is repealed it will be promoted as an example of how Obama and the Dems "compromised", and it will all be BS.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2013, 12:15:36 AM by Cincinnatus »
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