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London hospitals at breaking point, NHS England warns
« on: October 13, 2013, 08:12:31 AM »
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Re: London hospitals at breaking point, NHS England warns
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2013, 07:22:03 PM »
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For the BBC to bit hitting at one of the sacred cows of UK politics is unnerving, to say the least.
... but mildly encouraging, I trust.
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Re: London hospitals at breaking point, NHS England warns
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2013, 07:46:20 PM »
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It said demands for healthcare will soon outstrip supply due to a rising and ageing population and increasing costs, making the NHS "unsustainable".

Socialized medicine always 'saves' money by restricting supply.


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Re: London hospitals at breaking point, NHS England warns
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2013, 07:50:36 PM »
Yeah, they'll probably start doing what Obama has in mind for our older generation.
Deny them treatments and let them die off.  Problem solved!
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Re: London hospitals at breaking point, NHS England warns
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2013, 08:27:41 PM »
Time to thin out  the Useless Eaters.

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Re: London hospitals at breaking point, NHS England warns
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2013, 08:32:28 PM »
Remember this dreadful showing at the London Olympic Opening Ceremony?

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Re: London hospitals at breaking point, NHS England warns
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2013, 09:42:59 PM »
From the article:
[[ More than 130,000 women give birth in London every year, and the birth rate is increasing by 3% a year. ]]

One wonders how many of those births are from "native" Euro-Brits, as distinguished from births to muslims or non-Euro Brits...

Probably similar to what's going on now in the big-city hospitals down in Texas...

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Re: London hospitals at breaking point, NHS England warns
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2013, 09:43:53 PM »
[[ Remember this dreadful showing at the London Olympic Opening Ceremony? ]]

Right out of the "North Korea Stadium Ceremonies" planning book!

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Re: London hospitals at breaking point, NHS England warns
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2013, 11:41:22 PM »
Yeah, they'll probably start doing what Obama has in mind for our older generation.
Deny them treatments and let them die off.  Problem solved!


That already happens in UK hospitals to a certain degree.  They have so-called end-of-life procedures that are supposed to be voluntary, but are sometimes applied by doctors without adequate consultation with the family, that emphasize painkillers over treatment for individuals who are in extremis.  In other words, why use up medical resources when in the opinion of the doctor - whose performance is almost certainly measured in part by how cost-effective his/her case management is - those resources would be "wasted" because the doctor is "certain" the patient will soon die; instead, they drug the patient up high enough so he or she is essentially comatose when the end comes - never mind that in some cases the narcotics used as painkillers can themselves kill a person who, although close to the edge, would not have died but for the too-high dose of narcotics.

I believe there was a case just recently of a man who was in a coma, the doctors were "certain" he was going to die in any event - and had therefore not given any attention to whether he was even receiving basic care such as adequate water - and were prepared to drug him up and let him die until his family showed up and discovered that with some basic hydration he "came back from the dead."  I may be getting some of the details wrong, but I believe I captured the essence of the story.

Given that the UK NHS is even so now facing such massive cost overruns, I've no doubt that consultation with the family will become a thing of the past and more and more people - and people who are further and further from the brink of death - will be given painkillers instead of treatment, and basically left to die of thirst or the side-effects of the painkillers.


As goes the UK NHS, so goes Obamacare.  Sarah Palin most certainly was not lying - or confabulatin' - when she spoke out against the "death panels" provided for under Obamacare.
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