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The death of American medicine
« on: October 13, 2013, 06:52:51 AM »
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Re: The death of American medicine
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2013, 08:37:07 AM »
American medicine will not die.  There is medicine in places that are more socialized than us.  It will be bifurcated.  There will be a minimalist system that takes care of 80 percent of the public with generic drugs, shared rooms, waiting lines, etc.  And then there will be the expensive system with branded drugs, private rooms, empathetic doctors and no lines.  Spain, Italy, France and most of Europe have such a system now.  The thing is, the latter system will be considerably more expensive than it needs to be because of the former system.
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Re: The death of American medicine
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2013, 08:39:44 AM »
Ponder this: 110 people control 35 percent of Russia's wealth. How far behind them are we?
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Re: The death of American medicine
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2013, 08:52:54 AM »
Ponder this: 110 people control 35 percent of Russia's wealth. How far behind them are we?

Ponder this:  Russia is far better off today with 110 people controlling 35 percent of its wealth than it was when 25 percent of the people controlled 90 percent of its wealth.  The greatest achievements in the history of human civilization occurred in systems where there was great wealth/class disparity.  Literature: what was the system that Shakespeare operated under?  Arts: What was the system that DaVinci operated under?  Invention: what was the system that Henry Ford and Thomas Edison operated under?

Conversely, what were the great contributions to mankind made by Soviet society in comparison to those made by Czarist Russia?

No, I say Russia is better off as a dictatorship than it was as a communist state.  Dictatorships are not ideal, but when you look at some of them (Singapore, for example) they can be superior to democracy in terms of containing the socialist inclinations of the riff raff who would otherwise use democracy as an excuse not to have to work for a better life.
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Re: The death of American medicine
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2013, 05:36:20 PM »
American medicine will not die.  There is medicine in places that are more socialized than us.  It will be bifurcated.  There will be a minimalist system that takes care of 80 percent of the public with generic drugs, shared rooms, waiting lines, etc.  And then there will be the expensive system with branded drugs, private rooms, empathetic doctors and no lines.  Spain, Italy, France and most of Europe have such a system now.  The thing is, the latter system will be considerably more expensive than it needs to be because of the former system.

I think he is referring to American medicine as it has been and is today.  Its greatness will disappear, not the medical practice itself.  Even voodoo has its "doctors." :doa:
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
George Washington

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin


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