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"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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Yesterday, on behalf of our church's investment committee, I met with two fellows from the financial services company that manages our congregation's investments.  As a church member listed as an authorized signer on the accounts had left the church, we needed to name new signatories and the guys gave me the form to complete. They apologetically added that there's another form that each signer has to fill out. It is required by the Patriot Act   :patriot:  and if the brokerage doesn't have it on file, they'll get in big trouble from the feds.

To be an authorized signer of the church's account, no matter the amount, each of us must provide to the feds a social security number, birth date, phone numbers, mailing and legal addresses, marital status and number of dependents, driver's license number (and photocopies of both sides of the license), total net worth and liquid net worth, employer and annual income.

I'm sure we all can see how having this information will fight terrorism. When I reported this to the rest of the session last night, I suggested that the reason the feds need to know our net worths was so they'd know how much they'd be confiscating from us at a later date. One elder, who should be a signer, said there's no way he's giving up that info and therefore refused to be on the account. So it looks like our treasurer - a farmer - and I will be the authorized signers. Needless to say, we're going to be a little vague on those net worth numbers.
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