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Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%…

The AP is obviously trying to bury this, not mentioning his approval rating until the 7th paragraph.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Americans are holding Republicans primarily responsible for the partial government shutdown as public esteem sinks for all players in the impasse, President Barack Obama among them, according to a new poll. It’s a struggle with no heroes. [...]

    Most Americans disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job, the poll suggests, with 53 percent unhappy with his performance and 37 percent approving of it. Congress is scraping rock bottom, with a ghastly approval rating of 5 percent.

    Indeed, anyone making headlines in the dispute has earned poor marks for his or her trouble, whether it’s Democrat Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, or Republican John Boehner, the House speaker, both with a favorability rating of 18 percent.

    And much of the country draws a blank on Republican Ted Cruz of Texas despite his 21-hour Senate speech before the shutdown. Only half in the poll were familiar enough with him to register an opinion. Among those who did, 32 percent viewed him unfavorably, 16 percent favorably.

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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2013, 09:18:29 AM »
This is significant. The American public is stupid, and doesn't know exactly what's going on, but they don't like the negativity. It appears that even some of Obama's core supporters in the 47% are tying the negativity to Obama.

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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 09:30:50 AM »
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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2013, 09:34:33 AM »
One of my talk radio hosts....it could have been Rush Limbaugh...has a tape of Chris Matthews on the day that George W. Bush's approval ratings tanked to 36%.

Literally, every few minutes that day, Wolf Blitzer treated the news like he would have been covering the recent Navy Yard Masscre....announcing that "Today....President GWB's approval ratings have sunk to a new low....36%!)

It was more than a minute long.....edited and pasted together...and they never used the same one twice.\

edited to add....Rush played it today right our of the gate.
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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2013, 09:37:57 AM »
NPR's version

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Poll: GOP Gets The Blame In Shutdown

by The Associated Press
October 09, 2013 3:38 AM

WASHINGTON (AP) — Americans are holding Republicans primarily responsible for the partial government shutdown as public esteem sinks for all players in the impasse, President Barack Obama among them, according to a new poll. It's a struggle with no heroes.

The Associated Press-GfK survey, out Wednesday, affirms expectations by many in Washington — Republicans among them — that the GOP may end up taking the biggest hit in public opinion from the fiscal paralysis, just as that party did when much of the government closed 17 years ago. But the situation is fluid nine days into the shutdown and there's plenty of disdain to go around.

Overall, 62 percent mainly blamed Republicans for the shutdown. About half said Obama or the Democrats in Congress bear much responsibility.

Asked if she blamed Obama, House Republicans, Senate Democrats or the tea party for the shutdown, Martha Blair, 71, of Kerrville, Texas, said, yes, you bet. All of them.

"Somebody needs to jerk those guys together to get a solution, instead of just saying 'no,'" said Blair, an independent. "It's just so frustrating." It's also costly: She's paid to fly with a group to four national parks in Arizona and California next month and says she can't get her money back or reschedule if the parks remain closed.

The poll found that the tea party is more than a gang of malcontents in the political landscape, as its supporters in Congress have been portrayed by Democrats. Rather, it's a sizable — and divisive — force among Republicans. More than 4 in 10 Republicans identified with the tea party and were more apt than other Republicans to insist that their leaders hold firm in the standoff over reopening government and avoiding a default of the nation's debt in coming weeks.

Most Americans disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job, the poll suggests, with 53 percent unhappy with his performance and 37 percent approving of it. Congress is scraping rock bottom, with a ghastly approval rating of 5 percent.

Indeed, anyone making headlines in the dispute has earned poor marks for his or her trouble, whether it's Democrat Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, or Republican John Boehner, the House speaker, both with a favorability rating of 18 percent.

And much of the country draws a blank on Republican Ted Cruz of Texas despite his 21-hour Senate speech before the shutdown. Only half in the poll were familiar enough with him to register an opinion. Among those who did, 32 percent viewed him unfavorably, 16 percent favorably.

Comparisons could not be drawn conclusively with how people viewed leaders before the shutdown because the poll was conducted online, while previous AP-GfK surveys were done by telephone. Some changes may be due to the new methodology, not shifts in opinion. The poll provides a snapshot of public opinion starting in the third day of the shutdown.

The poll comes with both sides dug in and trading blame incessantly. On Tuesday, a proposal by House Republicans to create a working group of 20 lawmakers to tackle deficit issues prompted a White House veto threat, and a plan by Senate Democrats to raise the debt limit by $1 trillion to avoid a default drew a frosty reception from the GOP. Obama is insisting Republicans reopen government and avert default before any negotiations on deficit reduction or his 2010 health care law are held.

Among the survey's findings:

— Sixty-eight percent said the shutdown is a major problem for the country, including majorities of Republicans (58 percent), Democrats (82 percent) and independents (57 percent).

— Fifty-two percent said Obama is not doing enough to cooperate with Republicans to end the shutdown; 63 percent say Republicans aren't doing enough to cooperate with him.

— Republicans are split on just how much cooperation they want. Among those who do not back the tea party, fully 48 percent say their party should be doing more with Obama to find a solution. But only 15 percent of tea-party Republicans want that outreach. The vast majority of them say GOP leaders are doing what they should with the president, or should do even less with him.

— People seem conflicted or confused about the showdown over the debt limit. Six in 10 predict an economic crisis if the government's ability to borrow isn't renewed later this month with an increase in the debt limit — an expectation widely shared by economists. Yet only 30 percent say they support raising the limit; 46 percent were neutral on the question.

— More than 4 in 5 respondents felt no personal impact from the shutdown. For those who did, thwarted vacations to national parks, difficulty getting work done without federal contacts at their desks and hitches in government benefits were among the complaints.

Blair's nine-day trip to national parks with a tour group won't happen if the parks are still closed next month. "I'm concerned," she said, "but it seems kind of trivial to people who are being shut out of work."

In Mount Prospect, Ill., Barbara Olpinski, 51, a Republican who blames Obama and both parties for the shutdown, said her family is already seeing an impact and that will worsen if the impasse goes on. She's an in-home elderly care director, her daughter is a physician's assistant at a rural clinic that treats patients who rely on government coverage, and her husband is a doctor who can't get flu vaccines for patients on public assistance because deliveries have stopped.

"People don't know how they are going to pay for things, and what will be covered," she said. "Everybody is kind of like holding their wallets."

The AP-GfK Poll was conducted Oct. 3-7 and involved online interviews with 1,227 adults. The survey has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points for all respondents.

The survey used GfK's KnowledgePanel, a probability-based Internet panel designed to be representative of the U.S. population. Respondents to the survey were first selected randomly using phone or mail survey methods, and were later interviewed for this survey online. People selected for KnowledgePanel who didn't have online access were given that access at no cost to them.

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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2013, 09:59:47 AM »
Some that blame republicans for the shutdown are not against the republicans, but think they are doing the right thing concerning Obamacare and the debt limit. It's how the questions are presented.

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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2013, 10:04:37 AM »
Some that blame republicans for the shutdown are not against the republicans, but think they are doing the right thing concerning Obamacare and the debt limit. It's how the questions are presented.

The Republicans may get the result they want (some concessions on spending and tax reform in return for raising the debt ceiling), but they'll still take a big hit.  The gap is not as wide as 1995, when the GOP was blamed 27 points more than Clinton, but there's little question who initiated this.

Everybody happy that the stock market's lost 6% in value since Ted Cruz's little speech?  How are those 401K's looking?
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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2013, 10:54:27 AM »
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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2013, 01:10:59 PM »
Yes sink, we know that your 401k is the only thing which really matters.
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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2013, 01:22:36 PM »
The Republicans may get the result they want (some concessions on spending and tax reform in return for raising the debt ceiling), but they'll still take a big hit.  The gap is not as wide as 1995, when the GOP was blamed 27 points more than Clinton, but there's little question who initiated this.

Everybody happy that the stock market's lost 6% in value since Ted Cruz's little speech?  How are those 401K's looking?

Any financial market that is wholly dependent on the federal government to prop up in order to be functional is one I'd be very, very wary of.  Since 2008 around $2 trillion has been invested elsewhere because people know the US financial markets are not free markets.  They are almost entirely dependent on federal policy.

So long as government borrows and regulates, this problem will get worse.  It's far better to cleanse these markets of their systemic corruption NOW than to suffer even more severe consequences later.  If the GOP wins this, and there is fundamental change in favor of less regulation and spending, the markets will respond very favorably, just as they did to the sequester.

The market isn't yearning for more government spending and Obamacare, as you and OPapaDoc seem to believe.  The market is speculating that the GOP is not likely to win.
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2013, 01:27:29 PM »
Yes sink, we know that your 401k is the only thing which really matters.

Your 401K ought to matter to you, if you have one. 
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2013, 01:30:00 PM »
Any financial market that is wholly dependent on the federal government to prop up in order to be functional is one I'd be very, very wary of.  Since 2008 around $2 trillion has been invested elsewhere because people know the US financial markets are not free markets.  They are almost entirely dependent on federal policy.

So long as government borrows and regulates, this problem will get worse.  It's far better to cleanse these markets of their systemic corruption NOW than to suffer even more severe consequences later.  If the GOP wins this, and there is fundamental change in favor of less regulation and spending, the markets will respond very favorably, just as they did to the sequester.

The market isn't yearning for more government spending and Obamacare, as you and OPapaDoc seem to believe.  The market is speculating that the GOP is not likely to win.

The market is reacting to uncertainty. 
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2013, 01:49:59 PM »
The market is reacting to uncertainty.

The market reacts to a lot of things.  Mostly, these days it reacts to monetary liquidity, which is why it is a government-dependent market.  If you are heavily invested in it, then you are heavily invested in socialism.
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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2013, 02:34:27 PM »
I was smart and got my money out of the stock market before it tanked the last time. My dad who was still alive then told all of us if we were smart we would get out and keep any money we had safe that it was going to be a very unstable stock market for years to come he always was able to pretty well predict what would happen over the years. I watch now from afar. 401k's are a very unstable way these days to get money for retirement but for short term investors the stock market is ok as long as you are a gambler at heart. I would be very wary now because there I see bad things happening in our near future. The next few years are going to hazardous to our financial health.

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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2013, 02:58:03 PM »
I was smart and got my money out of the stock market before it tanked the last time. My dad who was still alive then told all of us if we were smart we would get out and keep any money we had safe that it was going to be a very unstable stock market for years to come he always was able to pretty well predict what would happen over the years. I watch now from afar. 401k's are a very unstable way these days to get money for retirement but for short term investors the stock market is ok as long as you are a gambler at heart. I would be very wary now because there I see bad things happening in our near future. The next few years are going to hazardous to our financial health.

Personally, I wouldn't bet against the establishment, but I wouldn't be fully invested in it, either.  The establishment will do anything -- and I mean anything -- to preserve itself, and that is not power I'd be betting against.
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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 03:03:01 PM »
I recall reading a John Clancy novel once....or was it Robert Ludlum?

In it, the market crashes and destroys everything....except that later in the book, the POTUS comes up with an idea to correct it.

Simply take a mulligan and cancel the day's trading....as if it never happened.   All trades were null and void for that period

....until they 'fixed' it.
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Re: Oh My: AP Poll Finds Obama’s Approval Rating Plummeting To Only 37%
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2013, 04:05:37 PM »
I was smart and got my money out of the stock market before it tanked the last time. My dad who was still alive then told all of us if we were smart we would get out and keep any money we had safe that it was going to be a very unstable stock market for years to come he always was able to pretty well predict what would happen over the years. I watch now from afar. 401k's are a very unstable way these days to get money for retirement but for short term investors the stock market is ok as long as you are a gambler at heart. I would be very wary now because there I see bad things happening in our near future. The next few years are going to hazardous to our financial health.

Got out of the market the day after Obozo was sworn in and have no idea when, or if, I will ever get back in.

Probably after the fed stops printing $85 billion dollars a months worth of new money and hopefully at the bottom of the crash that move will precipitate.

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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2013, 04:27:52 PM »
Got out of the market the day after Obozo was sworn in and have no idea when, or if, I will ever get back in.

Probably after the fed stops printing $85 billion dollars a months worth of new money and hopefully at the bottom of the crash that move will precipitate.

The problem is that the Fed printing all that money renders cash and cash equivalents destined to depreciate, possibly quickly.  Thus, you need to be invested in something that appreciates with inflation.  Stocks usually fit the bill, plus they can give you a little bit of income along the way.  I think residential income real estate is a better bet.  I also like gold and silver, and I especially like investment grade antiques.  No one ever went wrong investing in quality and scarcity.
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2013, 05:48:05 PM »
The problem is that the Fed printing all that money renders cash and cash equivalents destined to depreciate, possibly quickly.  Thus, you need to be invested in something that appreciates with inflation.  Stocks usually fit the bill, plus they can give you a little bit of income along the way.  I think residential income real estate is a better bet.  I also like gold and silver, and I especially like investment grade antiques.  No one ever went wrong investing in quality and scarcity.

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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2013, 06:27:01 PM »
Everybody happy that the stock market's lost 6% in value since Ted Cruz's little speech?  How are those 401K's looking?

Since I went short, looking real good.
Think I'll cash out tomorrow..don't want to push it too far but I do think it will dip further.
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2013, 03:49:13 AM »
Yes sink, we know that your 401k is the only thing which really matters.

I don't recall Sen Cruz asking the American people to give up their wealth to stop Obamacare.  I kind of thought Cruz's mandate was to stop Obamacare to save our economy.

I often hear liberals poo-poo the importance of letting wealth builders keep their wealth so they don't flee to other countries but not usually conservatives.  I bet Rush doesn't think capital flight to a less chaotic investment than America is irrelevant.

I'm paraphrasing but I remember Rush saying something like the freedom to keep the money you make, that you worked for, is the most fundamental freedom there is.  Without economic freedom all the other freedoms we enjoy are purely academic.  They can't exist without the freedom to keep what is yours.

Whose to blame for this shutdown?  Sen Ted Cruz promised to shutdown the government to stop Obamacare.  Is it going to stop Obamacare?  Nope.  We may get some spending cuts, maybe they can get a delay in the individual mandate but that will just give Obama a year to fix his half a billion dollar website.

The drop in Obama's approval is good news and there is a silver lining to this mess I haven't heard anybody mention.  Prior to the start of http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/ the rats were talking about how they needed to stop sequestration.  Now they are willing to take a clean CR and debt limit increase.  Sen Cruz did move their negotiating start position to the right.  I think it is imperative for our country to stick with sequestration till we get to a 1996 surplus.  Sen Cruz bought us more time with his wacko-bird stunt.  He also proved to anyone not convinced by 40 House votes for repeal that the GOP really, really doesn't like Obamacare.  If Obamacare continues to be a miserable failure then it may reap some future political rewards.  Big Ups Sen Cruz.
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2013, 10:31:44 AM »
The Republicans may get the result they want (some concessions on spending and tax reform in return for raising the debt ceiling), but they'll still take a big hit.  The gap is not as wide as 1995, when the GOP was blamed 27 points more than Clinton, but there's little question who initiated this.

Everybody happy that the stock market's lost 6% in value since Ted Cruz's little speech?  How are those 401K's looking?

Hey look!  Ted Cruz made the stock market go up 192 points so far today.  That's two days in a row we've had a Ted Cruz rally!  After all, according to sinkspur, Ted Cruz controls the US stock markets now.  Go Ted go!
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2013, 11:32:04 AM »
Hey look!  Ted Cruz made the stock market go up 192 points so far today.  That's two days in a row we've had a Ted Cruz rally!  After all, according to sinkspur, Ted Cruz controls the US stock markets now.  Go Ted go!

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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2013, 02:51:30 PM »
Hey look!  Ted Cruz made the stock market go up 192 points so far today.  That's two days in a row we've had a Ted Cruz rally!  After all, according to sinkspur, Ted Cruz controls the US stock markets now.  Go Ted go!

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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2013, 05:40:51 PM »
The Ted Cruz affect was a 322 point increase today.
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