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The single most insane Government shutdown quote
« on: October 07, 2013, 05:53:33 AM »
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"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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Re: The single most insane Government shutdown quote
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2013, 07:00:41 AM »
This is what "soft" tyranny looks like, folks. Get used to it. America's been heading down this road for decades. It won't stop unless "we the people" make it stop. What are the odds we can make DC respect the Constitution again? Any gamblers out there?

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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2013, 08:16:01 AM »
We are entering revolutionary times. The law is no longer equally applied. The media are the ministry of truth. The Democratic party is a revolutionary force. And it is all getting scary. -VDH

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Re: The single most insane Government shutdown quote
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2013, 08:42:42 AM »
This is what "soft" tyranny looks like, folks. Get used to it. America's been heading down this road for decades. It won't stop unless "we the people" make it stop. What are the odds we can make DC respect the Constitution again? Any gamblers out there?

People like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee and others give me hope, but I am a realist, and not too much of an optimist right now that things will start to turn around yet.  I think it's going to get a whole lot worse before the LIV wakes up and joins us radicals. 
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2013, 08:43:16 AM »
This is what "soft" tyranny looks like, folks. Get used to it. America's been heading down this road for decades. It won't stop unless "we the people" make it stop. What are the odds we can make DC respect the Constitution again? Any gamblers out there?

Well said aligncare! Well said indeed! No bet!

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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2013, 09:13:35 AM »
This is what "soft" tyranny looks like, folks. Get used to it. America's been heading down this road for decades. It won't stop unless "we the people" make it stop. What are the odds we can make DC respect the Constitution again? Any gamblers out there?

There is no constitution. The government is closed

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2013, 09:43:58 AM »
People like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee and others give me hope, but I am a realist, and not too much of an optimist right now that things will start to turn around yet.  I think it's going to get a whole lot worse before the LIV wakes up and joins us radicals.

I think we delude ourselves calling them Low Information Voters. I would agree that such a thing exists, a voter who is otherwise undamaged in thought process and doesn't get the proper information.

I think the situation with most of what we call LIVs is much worse. I think the majority of what we call LIVs are actually damaged voters. They are damaged in the sense that they are unable to apply critical thinking skills to what they are told by the media. They are also damaged in the sense that they've been indoctrinated and see government as the ultimate solution to most of their problems.

It's a grim picture.

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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2013, 09:46:49 AM »
I think we delude ourselves calling them Low Information Voters. I would agree that such a thing exists, a voter who is otherwise undamaged in thought process and doesn't get the proper information.

I think the situation with most of what we call LIVs is much worse. I think the majority of what we call LIVs are actually damaged voters. They are damaged in the sense that they are unable to apply critical thinking skills to what they are told by the media. They are also damaged in the sense that they've been indoctrinated and see government as the ultimate solution to most of their problems.

It's a grim picture.

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Re: The single most insane Government shutdown quote
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2013, 09:51:41 AM »
I think we delude ourselves calling them Low Information Voters. I would agree that such a thing exists, a voter who is otherwise undamaged in thought process and doesn't get the proper information.

I think the situation with most of what we call LIVs is much worse. I think the majority of what we call LIVs are actually damaged voters. They are damaged in the sense that they are unable to apply critical thinking skills to what they are told by the media. They are also damaged in the sense that they've been indoctrinated and see government as the ultimate solution to most of their problems.

It's a grim picture.

Critical thinking skills have been completely taken out of our public education system...and it shows.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2013, 10:08:51 AM »
Critical thinking skills have been completely taken out of our public education system...and it shows.

That is correct, and the effort has been accomplished with an intention of creating a mass of people submissive to authority, and incapable of distinguishing the manner or means by which they are being deceived.

Our schools were once designed to create citizens. Now they create sheep.
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2013, 10:20:51 AM »
That is correct, and the effort has been accomplished with an intention of creating a mass of people submissive to authority, and incapable of distinguishing the manner or means by which they are being deceived.

Our schools were once designed to create citizens. Now they create sheep.

This is our mistake. While this was going on, we conservatives did what conservatives do, took care of our own. We homeschooled, or moved our kids to parochial schools. In general, we fled the public schools and allowed liberals free reign in the public schools. This was a major mistake, in fact it is the core, the beginning of the end. With the ability to indoctrinate, not educate, the public schools have been churning out mush heads for 2+ generations.

Throughout the years, dictators have known controlling the children is the way to get what they want, (yes, I'm thinking of Hitler). We let the left gain the advantage, and now we're paying. And will continue to pay for many years.

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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2013, 10:37:51 AM »
This is our mistake. While this was going on, we conservatives did what conservatives do, took care of our own. We homeschooled, or moved our kids to parochial schools. In general, we fled the public schools and allowed liberals free reign in the public schools. This was a major mistake, in fact it is the core, the beginning of the end. With the ability to indoctrinate, not educate, the public schools have been churning out mush heads for 2+ generations.

Throughout the years, dictators have known controlling the children is the way to get what they want, (yes, I'm thinking of Hitler). We let the left gain the advantage, and now we're paying. And will continue to pay for many years.

You are right, again. Progressives used our own virtues against us. To defeat their efforts, we must use our virtues against them.
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2013, 10:51:26 AM »
You are right, again. Progressives used our own virtues against us. To defeat their efforts, we must use our virtues against them.

We can no longer stand on the sidelines and remain silent. We must involve ourselves at every level and in every possible way if we are ever to turn this around!

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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2013, 09:28:39 PM »
[[ This is what "soft" tyranny looks like, folks. Get used to it. America's been heading down this road for decades. It won't stop unless "we the people" make it stop. What are the odds we can make DC respect the Constitution again? Any gamblers out there? ]]

It won't happen until a group of states unite in opposition to the DC government, and those states are willing to open up "the third box". Only then will it become clear "which side everyone is on", including the military.

But then, we've been down that road before.

If that _doesn't_ happen, Americans better accept the reality of tyranny and an ever-increasing Orwellian police state.

Tyrants don't give up being tyrants until they are _stopped_ from doing same.
That's part of the human condition. It's human nature.
Where in history has that not been true?
What makes anyone think it could be any different here?

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2013, 01:57:54 PM »
This is our mistake. While this was going on, we conservatives did what conservatives do, took care of our own. We homeschooled, or moved our kids to parochial schools. In general, we fled the public schools and allowed liberals free reign in the public schools. This was a major mistake, in fact it is the core, the beginning of the end. With the ability to indoctrinate, not educate, the public schools have been churning out mush heads for 2+ generations.

Throughout the years, dictators have known controlling the children is the way to get what they want, (yes, I'm thinking of Hitler). We let the left gain the advantage, and now we're paying. And will continue to pay for many years.

Every time I see little kids being supervised by adults playing football, basketball, baseball, soccer, etc. I cringe with dread for America.  When I was young we always knew where we could find others to play the sport of the season.  We learned to negotiate, we learned to accept others even if they weren't very good, se learned not to always blame others, we learned to share our equipment, we learned to make rules, etc.  Now little kids learn nothing but to depend on someone else to tell them what to do, how to do it, and when to do it; thinking is gone. 8888crybaby
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Re: The single most insane Government shutdown quote
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2013, 02:18:12 PM »
As seen on this model this new uniform of National Park Service thugs, er, employees, will soon be standard. 



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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2013, 04:01:35 PM »
Every time I see little kids being supervised by adults playing football, basketball, baseball, soccer, etc. I cringe with dread for America.  When I was young we always knew where we could find others to play the sport of the season.  We learned to negotiate, we learned to accept others even if they weren't very good, se learned not to always blame others, we learned to share our equipment, we learned to make rules, etc.  Now little kids learn nothing but to depend on someone else to tell them what to do, how to do it, and when to do it; thinking is gone. 8888crybaby

Excellent Point. I never thought about it that way before. How do we raise up individuals when our children are so over supervised?

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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2013, 04:08:40 PM »
Excellent Point. I never thought about it that way before. How do we raise up individuals when our children are so over supervised?

It is an excellent point.

I remember 2 on 2 football in the street. Baseball with pitchers hand, ghost runners, and closed fields. Basketball in the driveway. Wiffle ball home run derbys. Just to name some of the more sane things we did. We had to think, and create our own entertainment.

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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2013, 04:17:39 PM »
It is an excellent point.

I remember 2 on 2 football in the street. Baseball with pitchers hand, ghost runners, and closed fields. Basketball in the driveway. Wiffle ball home run derbys. Just to name some of the more sane things we did. We had to think, and create our own entertainment.

Every Sunday afternoon in the fall we gathered on the Jr. High school football field and played tackle football without pads, shoes, or refs and no one ever got hurt very badly although some thought they were at times.

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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2013, 04:21:29 PM »
Every Sunday afternoon in the fall we gathered on the Jr. High school football field and played tackle football without pads, shoes, or refs and no one ever got hurt very badly although some thought they were at times.

Great times. I played for the High School team, and also participated in those Sunday games. We had to get past the fence, but it wasn't too much of a challenge. Ahhh, those were, in fact, the good old days.

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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2013, 04:26:40 PM »
Great times. I played for the High School team, and also participated in those Sunday games. We had to get past the fence, but it wasn't too much of a challenge. Ahhh, those were, in fact, the good old days.

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