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Sources: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress
« on: October 05, 2013, 06:21:26 PM »
http://www.examiner.com/article/sources-obama-to-usurp-constitutional-power-from-congress

October 4, 2013
Anthony Martin

According to sources in Congress and the White House, Barack Obama is preparing to usurp the Constitutional power of Congress to control the purse strings of the federal government. The Obama plan entails using the 14th Amendment of the Constitution to bypass Congress on the upcoming debt ceiling debate and unilaterally raise the debt ceiling without the approval of Congress.

On Thursday Mark Levin cited several Congressional sources who have told him that Obama has no intention of negotiating with Congress on the debt, which is just under $17 trillion, the highest in U.S. history. When unfunded liabilities such as Social Security and Medicare are added in, the real debt is over $125 trillion -- a figure so astronomically high that the country has no hope of ever paying it back. Uncontrolled spending has led the nation to this point.

According to Levin, Congressional sources say that Obama does not want any limits on his spending ability, in spite of the fact that the Constitution specifically gives Congress the power to control spending. Further, the use of the 14th Amendment to bypass Congress has never been done before. Thus, such an act would be an entirely new "interpretation" of the 14th Amendment and would raise a plethora of Constitutional issues concerning separation of powers.

The 14th Amendment is written in several main sections, one of which deals with debts incurred by the federal government. Nowhere does the Amendment give a president the power to raise the debt ceiling. Nowhere does the Amendment mandate that overall federal spending be increased at the whim of a president, or anyone else in government, not even Congress.

The only mandate contained in the 14th Amendment regarding the national debt is that if the government runs out of money, the interest and principal on Treasury Notes, Bills, and Bonds, must be paid first before money is spent on anything else.

This means, simply, that the federal government must first make payments on the national debt before it funds anything else. Nothing is stated concerning raising the debt ceiling and borrowing more money, and certainly not spending more money in the middle of a debt crisis.

Thus, the use of the 14th Amendment to excuse such actions on Obama's part would be illegal and an impeachable offense. Yet he is being urged, according to Levin, to break the law by advisers inside and outside of government, such as Bill Clinton, Dick Durbin, Nancy Pelosi, liberal law professors, and members of liberal think tanks.

It is also safe to assume that he is being urged to break the law by George Soros, given that the last time this subject was raised a couple of years ago, it was Soros who encouraged Obama to bypass Congress entirely, set the Constitution aside, and do whatever he wants.

Levin maintains that this would create a Constitutional crisis of historic proportions, one that could lead the House to initiate impeachment proceedings against the president.

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Re: Sources: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2013, 06:27:00 PM »
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Levin maintains that this would create a Constitutional crisis of historic proportions, one that could lead the House to initiate impeachment proceedings against the president.
Of course, that won't happen. The alternative? Something resembling 1920s Germany, perhaps.
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Re: Sources: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2013, 06:35:00 PM »
Who needs a Congress anyway. What do they do? What are they for? Why are they there? They are all a bunch of feckless greedy crony bastards. I say let him do it.


I almost agree der fuehrer on this. It is a disaster for America, but it is sort of fun watching the child-king kick their worthless asses. lol


What will they do when he dissolves Congress altogether, which is the next logical step.


These guys wouldn't last a day in the world you and I live in. They would be totally lost actually having to "earn" money to make a living. lol


They think money comes from rainbows and unicorns...
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Re: Sources: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2013, 11:22:20 PM »
I usually don't take stock into unnamed sources..
"Die-hard conservatives thought that if I couldn't get everything I asked for, I should jump off the cliff with the flag flying-go down in flames. No, if I can get 70 or 80 percent of what it is I'm trying to get ... I'll take that and then continue to try to get the rest in the future."

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Re: Sources: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2013, 11:29:27 PM »
I usually don't take stock into unnamed sources..

Same here.. but then we are talking the Valerie Jarrett Presidency.
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Re: Sources: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2013, 11:31:35 PM »
Same here.. but then we are talking the Valerie Jarrett Presidency.

You are right.. She is the real President, not Obama.. To bad Romney didn't beat her.
"Die-hard conservatives thought that if I couldn't get everything I asked for, I should jump off the cliff with the flag flying-go down in flames. No, if I can get 70 or 80 percent of what it is I'm trying to get ... I'll take that and then continue to try to get the rest in the future."

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Re: Sources: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2013, 12:52:15 AM »
You are right.. She is the real President, not Obama.. To bad Romney didn't beat her.


You can't ever beat her or almost any Democrat because of 3 simple reasons


1. They have super mega donors and players behind them who 'own' them and look at e lections like a dog show. I hope they pick my poochi, He's going to be "the best in show."


2. They have an entire army of media-maids who follow behind them and clean and wipe up any fax pas or mistakes or just plain stupidity they may say or do. (57 States? Really Mr. President?)


3. Most elections are rigged except very low level ones. Remember the poll worker who was caught with thousands of ballots in her trunk? Do you think anything ever happened to her? Of course not. Remember the electronic voting booths that would only vote Obama no matter which button one pushed? Do you think anything ever happened about that? Do you think media-maids were "outraged"? Of course not. Democrats/Liberals/Communists/Progressives believe that cheating is fair play. With them the ends always justify the means. After all they have no honor or morals of any kind. Also, remember how in both elections somehow the ballots never made it to Iraq or to the troops?


When you are fighting with a mafia like this, it would take a miracle to win, especially when the GOP establishment seems to support the Dems and all this corruption. Hell man, McCain loves Obama! and he was Obama's supposed "opponent". (wink, wink)
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Re: Sources: Obama to usurp Constitutional power from Congress
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2013, 07:01:46 AM »
You can tell by Obama's actions that he is beginning to think he's a ruler over a serfdom.
It's even worse when you know that over half the population would let him rein.
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