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IPCC On Antarctic Sea Ice: The IPCC ‘models forecast less ice, and they cannot explain why there is, instead, more ice’



By: Marc Morano - Climate DepotOctober 1, 2013 8:08 AM

IPCC On Antarctic Sea Ice

http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2013/10/01/ipcc-on-antarctic-sea-ice/

By Paul Homewood
 

 
 The newly released IPCC Fifth Assessment Report has a few things to say about the increasing Antarctic sea ice extent:-
 
 1) Available evidence precludes us from making robust statements about overall changes in Antarctic sea ice and their causes.
 
 2)There has been a small but significant increase in total ice extent of 1.5% per decade between 1979 and 2012, and a greater increase in ice area, indicating an increase in concentration.
 

3) The observed upward trend in Antarctic sea ice extent is found to be inconsistent with internal variability based on the residuals from a linear trend fitted to the observations, though this approach could underestimate multi-decadal variability.
 

4) The CMIP5 simulations [i.e climate models] on average simulate a decrease in Antarctic sea ice extent though Turner et al. (2013) find that approximately 10% of CMIP5 simulations exhibit an increasing trend in Antarctic sea ice extent larger than observed over the 1979-2005 period. However, Antarctic sea ice extent variability appears on average to be too large in the CMIP5 models (Turner et al., 2013; Zunz et al., 2013)

 
 In other words, their models forecast less ice, and they cannot explain why there is instead more ice. The fact that area is increasing even faster would suggest that the increase in extent is not due to winds spreading the ice out.
 

Perhaps some of the naive SkS denizens might care to take note, before they embarrass themselves again with their wacky theories.
 
 
 
http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/uploads/WGIAR5_WGI-12Doc2b_FinalDraft_Chapter04.pdf

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In other words, their models forecast less ice, and they cannot explain why there is instead more ice. The fact that area is increasing even faster would suggest that the increase in extent is not due to winds spreading the ice out.

That's a good summation of the gobbeldy-gook and mumbo-jumbo used in those four points to obfuscate what is, in fact, a confession that (a) they've been wrong, and (b) they can't explain why they've been wrong all along.

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I can explain it.  It is cold. :whistle:
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Public virtue cannot exist in a nation without private, and public virtue is the only foundation of republics. There must be a positive passion for the public good, the public interest, honour, power and glory, established in the minds of the people, or there can be no republican government, nor any real liberty: and this public passion must be superior to all private passions. John Adams


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