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Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« on: September 27, 2013, 01:01:48 PM »
http://www.infowars.com/seymour-hersh-bin-laden-death-one-big-lie/

 Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”

         

Pulitzer-prize wining journalist slams “pathetic” US media for failing to challenge White House

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
September 27, 2013

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh says that the raid which killed Osama Bin Laden in 2011 is “one big lie” and that “not one word” of the Obama administration’s narrative on what happened is true.



In a wide-ranging interview published today by the Guardian, Hersh savages the US media for failing to challenge the White House on a whole host of issues, from NSA spying, to drone attacks, to aggression against Syria.

On the subject of the Navy Seal raid that supposedly resulted in the death of the Al-Qaeda terror leader, Hersh remarked, “Nothing’s been done about that story, it’s one big lie, not one word of it is true.”

Hersh added that the Obama administration habitually lies but they continue to do so because the press allows them to get away with it.

“It’s pathetic, they are more than obsequious, they are afraid to pick on this guy [Obama],” Hersh told the Guardian.

The raid that supposedly led to Bin Laden’s death has been shrouded in mystery for over two years. Speculation that the Obama administration may have embellished or outright lied about the true account of what happened has persisted, mainly because the White House has refused to publicly release images of Bin Laden’s body.

Although the White House said the corpse was immediately “buried at sea” in line with Islamic tradition, it quickly emerged that this was not standard practice.

Numerous analysts have claimed that Bin Laden had in fact been dead for years and that the raid on his alleged compound in Pakistan was little more than a stunt.

Other questions also persist, such as why the narrative and timeline of the raid has changed multiple times, why the White House initially claimed that “situation room” photos showed Obama watching the raid live when in fact there was a blackout on the live feed, and whyneighbors in the immediate area surrounding the compound said with absolute certainty that they had never seen Bin Laden and that they knew of no evidence whatsoever to suggest he lived there.

During the rest of the Guardian interview, which is well worth reading in its entirety, Hersh lambastes the corporate press and particularly the New York Times, which he says spends “so much more time carrying water for Obama than I ever thought they would.”

Hersh’s solution is to shut down news networks like NBC and ABC and fire 90% of mainstream editors, replacing them with real journalists who are outsiders and not afraid to speak truth to power.

“The republic’s in trouble, we lie about everything, lying has become the staple,” concluded Hersh.
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Re: Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2013, 01:18:17 PM »
I take anything published in Infowars with a mountain of salt. But Seymour Hirsch is no fool. Although a man of the Left, he has been intellectually honest enough to attack both sides when he believes the evidence warrants it. That said, he has played a little fast and loose with his sources (and conclusions) in the past, so one still ought to approach his more explosive charges with caution.
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Re: Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2013, 01:20:36 PM »
I take anything published in Infowars with a mountain of salt. But Seymour Hirsch is no fool. Although a man of the Left, he has been intellectually honest enough to attack both sides when he believes the evidence warrants it. That said, he has played a little fast and loose with his sources (and conclusions) in the past, so one still ought to approach his more explosive charges with caution.

My thought too. I was disappointed when Drudge posted the InfoWars version when there are better sources for this story.

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Re: Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 01:25:07 PM »
Your caveat may have merit, Andy58-in-nh, but this actually came from the left wing Guardian, not Inforwars.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-obama-nsa-american-media

And who came possibly dispute his major thesis:
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Re: Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2013, 01:27:21 PM »

I would find it difficult to take anyone who accused these people of lying 'with a grain of salt'.

A man is not a liar because he tells a lie, a man lies because he is a liar...


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Re: Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2013, 01:29:19 PM »
Your caveat may have merit, Andy58-in-nh, but this actually came from the left wing Guardian, not Inforwars.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-obama-nsa-american-media

And who came possibly dispute his major thesis: ?


The Guardian is a rather left-wing publication. But to its great credit, it has seen fit to publish facts and critiques of the Obama Regime that most in the U.S. media would not touch. 
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Re: Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2013, 01:38:01 PM »
I would find it difficult to take anyone who accused these people of lying 'with a grain of salt'.

A man is not a liar because he tells a lie, a man lies because he is a liar...

It is true that Obama is a serial liar and that his Administration has amassed a virtual mountain of factual untruths. But it does not follow logically that everything of which they are accused is necessarily true.

In the present case, there are good reasons to question the official version of events - the secrecy involved after the fact, the hasty disposal of bin Laden's body, conflicts in reported timelines, the fate of Seal Team 6. At this point, the entire truth of the matter still appears to dwell in man-made fog and mist.
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Re: Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2013, 01:43:28 PM »
But it does not follow logically that everything of which they are accused is necessarily true.

I don't remember saying that it would be logical to conclude that everything they are accused of is necessarily true.

And, I suppose I would take it with a grain of salt is someone accused them of lying about... uh... 

Um... I'm having a little trouble coming up with something...


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Re: Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2013, 01:49:59 PM »
I don't remember saying that it would be logical to conclude that everything they are accused of is necessarily true.

And, I suppose I would take it with a grain of salt is someone accused them of lying about... uh... 

Um... I'm having a little trouble coming up with something...

Obama 2008: "We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America".

He wasn't lying then.

But yeah: that's about it.
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Re: Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2013, 03:22:06 PM »
Under Bush at least when they said certain terrorists were dead we saw the pictures to prove it. I still can close my eyes and see the two sons of Saddam. The first thing I wanted to see was a picture of Osama but when they didn't have any I knew it was a false story. I also believe the only time Obama didn't lie is when he said he was going to change the United States of America he certainly has and not one thing he has done has been good for this country.

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Re: Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2013, 03:24:26 PM »
Obama 2008: "We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America".

He wasn't lying then.

But yeah: that's about it.

That's an understatement!

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Re: Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden Raid “One Big Lie”
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2013, 03:24:44 PM »
Remember when some onlooker video'd Saddam Hussein's hanging on his cellphone?  :laugh:


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