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Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« on: September 26, 2013, 03:57:43 PM »

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Re: Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2013, 04:08:31 PM »
To me viable means the same as electable.
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Re: Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2013, 04:16:42 PM »
I'm not a big fan of the "what we're stuck with" worldview.

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Re: Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2013, 04:36:06 PM »
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Re: Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2013, 04:40:44 PM »
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Re: Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2013, 04:45:15 PM »
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Re: Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2013, 04:50:02 PM »
To me viable means the same as electable.

If a candidate is not electable, how are they viable?  This seems to be a distinction without a difference.
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Re: Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2013, 05:03:22 PM »
If a candidate is not electable, how are they viable?  This seems to be a distinction without a difference.

The difference is that "viable" in this context does not stand alone, but is dependent on the modifier "rightwardmost".  Such a candidate may not always or immediately be "electable", but is viable as a representative of conservatism and will support conservative causes. 

Colloquially speaking, we're all quite weary of voting for "electable" Republicans as promoted by unprincipled Beltway Carnival Barkers like Steve Schmidt who turn out to be Progressive jerks - and lose anyway.
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Re: Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2013, 05:16:57 PM »
The difference is that "viable" in this context does not stand alone, but is dependent on the modifier "rightwardmost".  Such a candidate may not always or immediately be "electable", but is viable as a representative of conservatism and will support conservative causes. 

The GOP is trending towards nominating the most conservative (or rightwardmost)  candidates in the primary, and losing the general.

"Viable" winning strategy?
 
*viable in this context does not stand alone, but is dependent on the modifier "winning."

The internal bickering is going to hurt the conservative cause.
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Re: Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2013, 09:36:27 PM »
Intriguing topic. Certainly we want to win elections. But what's the purpose of winning if elected candidates keep us headed toward bigger, more expensive and intrusive government. We want to elect someone who'll fight for smaller government, greater liberty and lower taxes. And that's the catch-22; that's not always someone who's "electable."
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Re: Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2013, 09:48:13 PM »
Intriguing topic. Certainly we want to win elections. But what's the purpose of winning if elected candidates keep us headed toward bigger, more expensive and intrusive government. We want to elect someone who'll fight for smaller government, greater liberty and lower taxes. And that's the catch-22; that's not always someone who's "electable."

Just remember, they laughed at his tactics and said Reagan was unelectable to higher office, he proved them wrong.

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Re: Ted Cruz Extends the Buckley Rule
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2013, 10:21:37 PM »
I fear we may never again in our lifetime see the likes of another man like Reagan.  I loved the man but he was just one man. We need an army of Reagan's and another lifetime to make a dent in the federal bureaucracy.
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