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No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head
« on: September 24, 2013, 02:02:51 PM »
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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has no Catholic right to be granted Communion, said the leading cardinal of the highest court at the Vatican.

Mrs. Pelosi should be denied Communion until she changes her advocacy views on abortion, Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke said, according to the Western Center for Journalism.

That’s canon law, not opinion, he said. Canon 915 states that Catholics who are stubbornly contrary “in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”

And Cardinal Burke said Mrs. Pelosi fits the definition.

“Certainly this is a case when Canon 915 must be applied,” he said, the Western Center for Journalism reported. “This is a person who obstinately, after repeated admonitions, persists in a grave sin — cooperating with the crime of procured abortion — and still professes to be a devout Catholic.”

The cardinal also said that Mrs. Pelosi is a perfect example of Catholics who separate their faith from day-to-day living.

“This is a prime example of what Blessed John Paul II referred to as the situation of Catholics who have divorced their faith from their public life and therefore are not serving their brothers and sisters in the way that they must — in safeguarding and promoting the life of the innocent and defenseless unborn, in safeguarding and promoting the integrity of marriage and the family,” he said.


Yeah, yeah, well quit yacking about it and enforce your own rules.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/24/vatican-court-head-no-communion-nancy-pelosi/
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Re: No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013, 02:23:19 PM »
Raymond Burke's area of authority is as head of the Tribunal of last resort in the Church.

He has no authority to make determinations for diocesan bishops.  And Pope Francis, by his example, is not a fan of refusing Communion to anybody.
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Re: No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 04:40:25 PM »
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That’s canon law, not opinion, he said. Canon 915 states that Catholics who are stubbornly contrary “in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”
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Re: No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 04:46:30 PM »


Raymond Burke has no authority over local diocesan bishops.  And, given Francis' words last Thursday about changing focus from sexual issues to issues of justice and mercy, Burke's likely out on the ledge by himself.
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Re: No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 05:22:15 PM »
Yep, principles mean nothing. Just words on paper (like the Republican Platform).

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,114319.msg459647.html#msg459647

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That’s canon law, not opinion, he said. Canon 915 states that Catholics who are stubbornly contrary “in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”
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Re: No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 09:47:09 PM »
Raymond Burke's area of authority is as head of the Tribunal of last resort in the Church.

He has no authority to make determinations for diocesan bishops.  And Pope Francis, by his example, is not a fan of refusing Communion to anybody.

So what?  It doesn't appear that he was trying to exercise power, just that he was making the point clear.

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Re: No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2013, 09:55:43 PM »
So what?  It doesn't appear that he was trying to exercise power, just that he was making the point clear.

Most bishops are not going to use Communion as a weapon.  Even Pelosi's own archbishop, Salvatore Cordileone, doesn't refuse the Eucharist to her.

   Burke was kicked upstairs to the Roman Rota because the faithful and priests of St. Louis couldn't stand him.  Now he insists on sticking his nose into diocesan administration where he has no authority.

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Re: No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2013, 09:57:44 PM »
Most bishops are not going to use Communion as a weapon.  Even Pelosi's own archbishop, Salvatore Cordileone, doesn't refuse the Eucharist to her.

   Burke was kicked upstairs to the Roman Rota because the faithful and priests of St. Louis couldn't stand him.  Now he insists on sticking his nose into diocesan administration where he has no authority.



You have quite the knack for dodging the question.  Congratulations.

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Re: No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2013, 11:03:33 PM »
You have quite the knack for dodging the question.  Congratulations.

What was the question?  I couldn't find one.
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Re: No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2013, 03:46:52 PM »
Does anyone think for one second to be turned down for communion bothers her :3:? **nononono*  The "Catholic" schtick is for the voters and means absolutely nothing to her since her "god" is the power of government.
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