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Offline mystery-ak

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« on: September 11, 2013, 02:02:54 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2013, 02:09:20 PM »
Wow!  Obama finally managed to find something on which Arabs and Israelis can agree on:  his incompetence and preening arrogance.

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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2013, 04:57:30 PM »
I doubt seriously the Israelis have been counting on anything from Obama but to be left with no support.  They may say differently in public but I am willing to bet they saw through him immediately and know he is not the type of "friend" or "ally" they need or want. :peeonobama:
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"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2013, 11:59:27 PM »
I doubt seriously the Israelis have been counting on anything from Obama but to be left with no support.  They may say differently in public but I am willing to bet they saw through him immediately and know he is not the type of "friend" or "ally" they need or want. :peeonobama:

True enough; however, Obama has now given Putin the perfect opening to force the US completely out of the Middle East, and to move ahead swiftly to turn Iran into another client state by, amongst other things, accelerating Iran's nuclear program, and providing Iran with the defenses needed to thwart anything other than a complete Israeli attack.

Israel is now not only finding that it doesn't have the backing of the US President, it is now finding that it (a) no longer has any friends at all in the Middle East, and (b) those who have sworn to wipe Israel off the map are much, much closer to having the ability to do so than they were even two weeks ago.

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2013, 08:53:10 PM »
[[ Israel is now not only finding that it doesn't have the backing of the US President ]]

The Israelis have not had "the backing of the US President" since January 21, 2009.

Are they so slow-witted to be discovering this reality now?

A notorious American once said "I am the master of my fate".

The Israelis have never embraced such a notion, regardless of how well they have defended themselves in the past.

If they truly wished to be "the masters of their own fate", the Israelis would have attacked Iran just after the election in November 2008. Bush would have supported them. His support would have been with reluctance, but he would have seen things through until January.

By delaying the reckoning with Iran to this point (and certainly longer), the Israelis have lost their "fate". They may soon lose their country.

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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2013, 09:27:13 PM »
[[ Israel is now not only finding that it doesn't have the backing of the US President ]]

The Israelis have not had "the backing of the US President" since January 21, 2009.

Are they so slow-witted to be discovering this reality now?

A notorious American once said "I am the master of my fate".

The Israelis have never embraced such a notion, regardless of how well they have defended themselves in the past.

If they truly wished to be "the masters of their own fate", the Israelis would have attacked Iran just after the election in November 2008. Bush would have supported them. His support would have been with reluctance, but he would have seen things through until January.

By delaying the reckoning with Iran to this point (and certainly longer), the Israelis have lost their "fate". They may soon lose their country.

I am quite sure they've known that for at least several years.  Israel hasn't been able to "reckon" with Iran to-date because of pressure from the US.  Now that the US has been kicked out of the Middle East by Putin, Israel might have a window of comparative freedom to act.


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