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NYT's...Russian Proposal Could Offer Obama Escape From Bind
« on: September 10, 2013, 10:47:21 AM »

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Re: NYT's...Russian Proposal Could Offer Obama Escape From Bind
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2013, 10:50:56 AM »
Kerry as much as said that they planned it this way all the time, as if they know Putin would save their sorry arses! They aren't bright enough to pull something like this off. That is why Putin stepped in.

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Re: NYT's...Russian Proposal Could Offer Obama Escape From Bind
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2013, 11:43:25 PM »
Kerry as much as said that they planned it this way all the time, as if they know Putin would save their sorry arses! They aren't bright enough to pull something like this off. That is why Putin stepped in.

Exactly.  Because Putin had a win-win situation in his hands.  On the one hand, Russia could have simply let Obama beat his chest and lead the US into war against Syria in a situation where no other country really supports the US attack, thereby isolating the US and having the world see the US as a rogue nation the way Iraq was a rogue nation when it unilaterally attacked Kuwait back in 1990/91.  That would have also created a lot more terrorist attacks against the US, further damaging the US and distracting it.  Finally, it would have created another quagmire for the US, which would have sapped the US financially and morally.  However, there were also risks with that path because Russia would have run the risk of losing its main client state in the Middle East, which would have made it harder for Russia to project its influence by proxy in the Middle East; and this would have been the case even though Russia would have been madly funneling weapons to Syria.

On the other hand, we have the brilliant coup Mr. Putin engineered this week.  In fact, more an instance of political judo, wherein the opponent's own inertia and mass are used against the opponent.  Although this alternative doesn't do as much serious, long-term damage to the US as the first alternative would, it also removes the risk of losing Syria as its client state in the Middle East and, quite frankly, it keeps the lid on the pot of Islamic terrorism, thereby avoiding increased terrorist attacks against Russia as well as against the US.  It also allows Putin to strip the mantle of peace-maker from Obama without so much as a single struggle, and allows him to don it and strut around on the world stage.  With this masterful move, Putin has stripped Obama of any pretense to the moral high ground.

Liberals in the US will never publicly admit to this, and will be banging the drums for Obama's cool, hard-nosed, strategic thinking, but the rest of the world, as well as those Americans who pay attention and think about things, know very well that Obama got played for the ultimate fool, and that the US is now significantly weaker than it was just last week.

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Re: NYT's...Russian Proposal Could Offer Obama Escape From Bind
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2013, 11:45:53 PM »
Excellent post, Oceander!


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