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Senior Syrian and Iranian officials have again warned that should the US pursue military action in Syria, the state of Israel will find itself firmly and immediately in their crosshairs.

“If Damascus comes under attack, Tel Aviv will be targeted too and a full-scale war against Syria will actually issue a license for attacking Israel,” said a Syrian army official in comments to Iran’s Fars News Agency.

“We are rest assured that if Syria is attacked, Israel will also be set on fire and such an attack will, in turn, engage Syria’s neighbors,” the official said, maintaining anonymity during the interview.

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The army official also stated that if the US chooses to help Al Qaeda-linked jihadists in Syria, their will be significant blowback in Israel.

“Weakening the central government in Damascus will actually start growing attacks on Israel and will create insecurity for that regime,” he said.

“Thus, a U.S. attack on Syria will herald frequent strikes and attacks on Israel, not just by Damascus and its allies in retaliation, but by extremist groups who will find a ground for staging their aspirations,” the official added.

Senior Iranian officials echoed the comments, with Hossein Sheikholeslam, the director-general of the parliament for International Affairs telling Fars News that “the Zionist regime will be the first victim of a military attack on Syria.”

Iranian Member of Parliament Mansur Haqiqatpur was also quoted as saying that “In case of a U.S. military strike against Syria, the flames of outrage of the region’s revolutionaries will point toward the Zionist regime.”

The fresh threats come in the wake of similar comments made earlier in the week by Syrian Deputy Information Minister Halaf Al-Maftah who warned that Israel will “come under fire” should the United states strike against the Assad regime. He added that the Syrian government has “strategic weapons aimed at Israel,” and warned that “If the US or Israel err through aggression and exploit the chemical issue, the region will go up in endless flames, affecting not only the area’s security, but the world’s.”

Israeli newspaper Israel Hayom quoted Muftah as also warning “It’s possible to say unambiguously that a process of war against Syria could lead to an all-out world war. The responsibility for that will rest on the US and the Zionist entity’s shoulders.”

The Beirut Daily Star quoted a “senior source close to” Hezbollah as saying that in the event of major Western strike against Syria “Hezbollah will fight on various fronts,” and predicting an immediate “inferno of a war with Israel.”

Pro-Hezbollah cleric, Afif Nabulsi, who is closely aligned with the Syrian and Iranian governments, was also quoted as saying that “any [US] strike against Syria will be met by harsh responses against US interests in the region and against Israel directly.”

Lebanese Foreign Minister Adnan Mansour stated in a radio interview that the country would retaliate if Israel “exploits a strike against Syria to attack Hezbollah.”

 

In response to the threats, Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said “The State of Israel is ready for any scenario.” Following a meeting with security officials in Jerusalem, Netanyahu said “We are not part of the civil war in Syria, but if we identify any attempt whatsoever to harm us, we will respond and we will respond in strength.”

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According to Israeli intelligence website DEBKAfile, the Israeli security cabinet held another emergency meeting today, ordering the partial mobilization of select, qualitative IDF reserve forces: Rocket, Air Force, missile interception, Home Defense command and intelligence units.

DEBKAfile’s military sources report that an American military operation on Syria is scheduled to start Friday night, early Saturday Aug. 30-31. The report adds that US forces are finalizing a a major buildup at the huge US Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar.

“US air force reinforcements in Qatar will stand ready to rush to the aid of US allies – Israel, Jordan and Turkey – in the event of their coming under Syrian Scud attack.” the report states, adding that on the opposite side the Syrian army has been scattering personnel, weapons and air assets to pre prepared fortified shelters in order to limit damage and losses.

“Syrian army command centers in Homs, Hama, Latakia and the Aleppo region were also being split up and dispersed, after a tip-off to Syrian and Russian intelligence that they would be targeted by the US strike.” the report adds.

The Associated Press also reports that Israel has ordered a special call-up of hundreds of reserve troops to beef up civil defense preparations and to operate air-defense units near the border. Defense officials have confirmed the deployment of Iron Dome and Patriot missile-defense batteries in areas near the Syrian border, stating that they believe a US strike on Syria is imminent.

Israeli security and rescue forces are also engaged in a two-day drill in the Golan Heights along the Syrian border.

The intelligence supposedly handed to the US and its allies suggesting that the Syrian army was involved in the chemical attacks last week is said to have come predominantly via Israeli intelligence agencies.

While Chinese and Russian officials continue to warn of the grave global consequences of a US strike on Syria, Russian citizens are currently being evacuated out of the country.

Meanwhile even firebrand broadcaster Glenn Beck has come out against intervention in Syria, warning that because of China and Russia’s alignment with Iran and Syria, a wider war in the middle east would mean that the US “would not survive”.

Beck warned that “this is World War 3 in the making,” noting the Obama administration is on the exact same destructive warpath that the Bush government set out on 12 years ago.

Beck desperately appealed to his conservative listener base to find common ground with real liberals and hold huge anti-war rallies.

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So bloody obvious this was going to happen.
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Sadly while everyone on FOX was fawning over the spectacle  in DC today Glenn Beck interviewed a Coptic Christian priest on his program... he told him they need to get out of the ME and he said the US State Department will only give visa's to Muslims, no Christians are receiving visa's...... Beck put him in immediate contact with his editor of The Blaze and said he is going to start pushing it so it will get picked up by other conservative publications on the internet.
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Excellent news! Not over fond of Beck's style, but he has a good heart.

His Holiness has been pressuring the Italian and Brazilian governments to grant visas also. That is what the recent Papal visit to Immigrant Island was all about.
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Excellent news! Not over fond of Beck's style, but he has a good heart.

His Holiness has been pressuring the Italian and Brazilian governments to grant visas also. That is what the recent Papal visit to Immigrant Island was all about.

As Beck pointed out this is exactly how we treated the Jews when they wanted to escape Europe in WWII
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As Beck pointed out this is exactly how we treated the Jews when they wanted to escape Europe in WWII

Yep. It has a sadly familiar ring to it. Very 1937.  **nononono*

Dumbasses - does no one ever learn history any more?
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I have no doubt that the hopey-changey administration's mishandling of the Middle East has led us to this point. What a loser Obama is. Unfortunately he's dragging America down with him.
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I have no doubt that the hopey-changey administration's mishandling of the Middle East has led us to this point. What a loser Obama is. Unfortunately he's dragging America down with him.

Yes and his syncophants at MSNBC are happily encouraging him along... even today on Fox Bill O'Reilly who was against our actions in Iraq and Bob Beckel who called Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld war criminals - never mind we went into that war because of 911 - is saying we HAVE to attack Syria.....

These idiots are just looking for a nuclear weapon to drop on NYC this time.
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These idiots are just looking for a nuclear weapon to drop on NYC this time.

Wouldn't need one. A pound of enriched uranium powder (or a teaspoon of plutonium dust) around a conventional explosive device, set it off and let the wind do the rest. That stuff is lethal. It'd be a suicide run, but  their side seems to have enough of those on hand.
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My head is spinning. So the left is saying Bush's war bad, Obama's war good? Well then, it's obvious what we should do. Except for assisting in Israel's defense, we should get the hell out of the Middle East.
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My head is spinning. So the left is saying Bush's war bad, Obama's war good? Well then, it's obvious what we should do. Except for assisting in Israel's defense, we should get the hell out of the Middle East.

Can't. Obama's lot turned off domestic production, or at least turned it down to unsustainably low levels. If your biggest oil supplier threatens to turn out the lights, you jump. Just another unintended consequence of the Green movement.
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Okay, then. Getting out of the Middle East could force Greenies to accept stepped-up domestic exploration and production. A JFK-type challenge that puts us on a path to energy independence by the end of the decade. Why not?
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You are assuming they think logically.

Remember the Carter years and the lines for petrol? Remember Obama's own Energy Czar stating $10/gallon gas was what they wanted? Remember the very dubious foreign (oil based) funding to the Democrats?

They will never ramp up domestic production.
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Yes I remember the lines. And when greenies feel the pain of long waits in gas lines, they too will see the wisdom in domestic exploration and production. Suddenly oil wells will start popping up in downtown Los Angeles, and Austin, and Madison, and Spokane, and the upper West side of Manhattan!

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I like your dream  :beer:

Thought there are already a ton of oil wells in downtown LA. They are just disguised.
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Wouldn't need one. A pound of enriched uranium powder (or a teaspoon of plutonium dust) around a conventional explosive device, set it off and let the wind do the rest. That stuff is lethal. It'd be a suicide run, but  their side seems to have enough of those on hand.


Most so-called "dirty bombs" are generally considered to be less lethal than a conventional bomb that generates a blast wave, see wiki article and sources cited.  Obtaining the necessary radiological material is generally considered to be extremely difficult; however, for our purposes we could probably assume that Iran or North Korea would provide the needed radiologicals, which leaves only the question of whether, and how, that material would be smuggled into the US.  My off-the-cuff guess is that one of the drug-smuggling rings would get paid a very, very rich bounty to do the smuggling - leave the hard work to the experts, after all.

On the other hand, a dirty bomb would most likely be a much more effective terror-creating device than a more lethal conventional bomb because of the hysteria with which most people react to apparent radioactive exposure (notwithstanding the fact that a lot of such exposure is generally less lethal than smoking and, presumably, the typical amount of dirty exhaust your typical city dweller inhales, and notwithstanding the examples of Chernobyl, where recent analysis has shown that people who were in the vicinity of Chernobyl - excluding those who were in close proximity to the plant - show negligible effects, see wiki article and source at fn. 4.

A dirty bomb that is "advertised" as a dirty bomb by the terrorists involved would probably create more long-term damage through the fear it created - particularly if the government tried to hush it up precisely because the public would react with hysteria if it knew it was a dirty bomb - than a more lethal conventional bomb.

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Good analysis.

We're still dealing with the terror caused by the 9/11 attack. The greatest damage to our economy is not from the initial attack (thought it was great) but from the long-term terror we have about air travel being targeted again. Terrorism works to cripple an economy, as well as innocents.
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Good analysis.

We're still dealing with the terror caused by the 9/11 attack. The greatest damage to our economy is not from the initial attack (thought it was great) but from the long-term terror we have about air travel being targeted again. Terrorism works to cripple an economy, as well as innocents.

Precisely.  And a terror attack is most effective when it forces those attacked to do the actual damage to themselves as the result of their hysterical response to the terror attack.  In short, the terrorists win precisely when a society puts itself under a regime like that created by the PATRIOT Act and the rest of the "security" measures we've implemented in response to the 9/11 attacks.

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Box cutters .... crippled air travel and made our lives miserable.
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Most so-called "dirty bombs" are generally considered to be less lethal than a conventional bomb that generates a blast wave, see wiki article and sources cited.  Obtaining the necessary radiological material is generally considered to be extremely difficult; however, for our purposes we could probably assume that Iran or North Korea would provide the needed radiologicals, which leaves only the question of whether, and how, that material would be smuggled into the US.  My off-the-cuff guess is that one of the drug-smuggling rings would get paid a very, very rich bounty to do the smuggling - leave the hard work to the experts, after all.

On the other hand, a dirty bomb would most likely be a much more effective terror-creating device than a more lethal conventional bomb because of the hysteria with which most people react to apparent radioactive exposure (notwithstanding the fact that a lot of such exposure is generally less lethal than smoking and, presumably, the typical amount of dirty exhaust your typical city dweller inhales, and notwithstanding the examples of Chernobyl, where recent analysis has shown that people who were in the vicinity of Chernobyl - excluding those who were in close proximity to the plant - show negligible effects, see wiki article and source at fn. 4.

A dirty bomb that is "advertised" as a dirty bomb by the terrorists involved would probably create more long-term damage through the fear it created - particularly if the government tried to hush it up precisely because the public would react with hysteria if it knew it was a dirty bomb - than a more lethal conventional bomb.


Thank you!

As always a thoughtful response and one which built on the short post (It's accounts week again)

The thing to remember is most of these jihadi's are not trying to actually kill, though deaths are obviously a huge bonus. They are trying to make people back down. To fear them.

Your second para nails it. One dirty bomb placed upwind of Manhattan and the chaos and loss of life would be immense simply from people trying to leave. Can you imagine the scenes in the tunnels and on the bridges?. It would make the Towers look like a Sunday school picnic. The scare word "Radiation" would be enough. The words, there are three more, would have everyone heading for the hills. Those wouldn't even have to be particularly radioactive. Just enough of a low level isotope to be detectable.

But why stop there? NK has the bomb and they usually work, though not always. I am going out on a limb and betting Iran has at least 1 already, even if they haven't tested it.
I constantly see "Oh, they don't have the delivery system to hit the US. Excuse me? UPS delivers. Not saying literally UPS, but any convenienced flag ship could sail into NY or SF harbors with a nuke on board. It wouldn't even have to be a sophisticated one. These are people who really don't mind blowing themselves up. You honestly think they couldn't find someone to manually press a switch?
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Can't. Obama's lot turned off domestic production, or at least turned it down to unsustainably low levels. If your biggest oil supplier threatens to turn out the lights, you jump. Just another unintended consequence of the Green movement.

That consequence of the Green movement is in no way unintended.
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That consequence of the Green movement is in no way unintended.

Not going to disagree - I haven't looked into it much more than your average educated layman - but I'd remind you of the old adage: "Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity."
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Thank you!

As always a thoughtful response and one which built on the short post (It's accounts week again)

The thing to remember is most of these jihadi's are not trying to actually kill, though deaths are obviously a huge bonus. They are trying to make people back down. To fear them.

Your second para nails it. One dirty bomb placed upwind of Manhattan and the chaos and loss of life would be immense simply from people trying to leave. Can you imagine the scenes in the tunnels and on the bridges?. It would make the Towers look like a Sunday school picnic. The scare word "Radiation" would be enough. The words, there are three more, would have everyone heading for the hills. Those wouldn't even have to be particularly radioactive. Just enough of a low level isotope to be detectable.

But why stop there? NK has the bomb and they usually work, though not always. I am going out on a limb and betting Iran has at least 1 already, even if they haven't tested it.
I constantly see "Oh, they don't have the delivery system to hit the US. Excuse me? UPS delivers. Not saying literally UPS, but any convenienced flag ship could sail into NY or SF harbors with a nuke on board. It wouldn't even have to be a sophisticated one. These are people who really don't mind blowing themselves up. You honestly think they couldn't find someone to manually press a switch?

I've always wondered just how close in a cargo ship coming from a foreign port could get to NYC before it was inspected.  To get the most lethal blast from a nuclear gadget you need an airburst; detonating it at or below ground level tends to confine the blast to a smaller area and a lot of the energy of the blast is spent in throwing dirt into the air.  That being said, detonating a nuclear gadget, even a modest one, in the hold of a cargo ship sitting in NY harbor would have serious consequences to NYC and the surrounding areas of NJ (in fact, since it looks as if most cargo traffic passes only through the lower NY harbor area, and goes into areas closer to NJ, like Newark, for offloading, the worst of the damage would be in NJ).

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The bibles prophecies are never wrong and one of them has Damascus destroyed never to be lived in again. I am beginning to wonder if this is the war it will happen. I just wish we would stay out of it we are pouring gas on a fire and it could well end up in another world war. I also have been thinking a lot lately how no leaders or government ever seems to learn from history they just keep making the same mistakes over and over again and the citizens pay for their mistakes and countries are destroyed

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I've always wondered just how close in a cargo ship coming from a foreign port could get to NYC before it was inspected.  To get the most lethal blast from a nuclear gadget you need an airburst; detonating it at or below ground level tends to confine the blast to a smaller area and a lot of the energy of the blast is spent in throwing dirt into the air.  That being said, detonating a nuclear gadget, even a modest one, in the hold of a cargo ship sitting in NY harbor would have serious consequences to NYC and the surrounding areas of NJ (in fact, since it looks as if most cargo traffic passes only through the lower NY harbor area, and goes into areas closer to NJ, like Newark, for offloading, the worst of the damage would be in NJ).


You might find this site both interesting and instructive: http://www.nuclearterror.org/blastmaps.html

It wouldn't just be the blast itself, though that is devastating enough. Think of the millions of gallons of (now radioactive) water vapor suddenly in the air and at the mercy of the wind.
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