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US Forces to Punish Syria, not Push Regime Change
« on: August 28, 2013, 10:32:38 AM »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/08/28/US-forces-to-punish-Syria--not-push-regime-change

 from AFP 28 Aug 2013, 1:42 AM PDT

US forces are readying to strike Syria, though the West insists its goal is not regime change but to punish President Bashar al-Assad's government for unleashing chemical warfare on civilians.

The ground for a military intervention was laid out by US Vice President Joe Biden, who for the first time said last week's attack, thought to have killed hundreds, could only have been perpetrated by Assad's forces.

But the onrushing likelihood of action within days was met with defiance in Damascus, with regime officials pledging to fight any attack with "surprise" measures, while Syrian allies Russia and Iran warned of dire consequences.

But Britain and France also moved to back the use of force in Syria, while the White House promised to provide declassified evidence this week to prove that last Wednesday's chemical attack was the work of regime forces.

The economic cost also started to be counted, as global stocks dived and world oil prices hit a six-month high.

Analysts expect to see cruise missiles launched from US and allied submarines, ships and possibly planes, firing into Syria from outside its waters and airspace.

Biden said an "essential international norm" had been violated in Syria.

"There is no doubt who is responsible for this heinous use of chemical weapons in Syria -- the Syrian regime," Biden said on Tuesday.

"The president believes and I believe that those who use chemical weapons against defenseless men, women and children should and must be held accountable."

During a news conference earlier Tuesday, Syria's Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said Damascus would defend itself.

"We have two options: either to surrender, or to defend ourselves with the means at our disposal," he said. "The second choice is the best. We will defend ourselves."

US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the American military was already prepared to act if President Barack Obama gave the order -- though White House aides said no final decision had been taken.

"We have moved assets in place to be able to fulfil and comply with whatever option the president wishes to take," Hagel said in Brunei. "We are ready to go, like that."

French President Francois Hollande said his country was "ready to punish" those behind the chemical attacks and that he would meet the Syrian opposition's leader Thursday.

In London, Prime Minister David Cameron recalled parliament to discuss the crisis and slammed Syria's use of chemical weapons as "morally indefensible."

The White House said that any US action would be to defend the principle that chemical weapons should not be used -- and would not aim to topple Assad, despite previous calls for him to go.

"I want to make clear that the options that we are considering are not about regime change," said Obama's spokesman Jay Carney, noting that a declassified version of a US intelligence investigation into the attack would be released this week.

Carney refused to say whether Washington would seek a UN Security Council mandate for action, despite the likelihood of a Russian veto.

A military campaign in Syria is expected to be limited in scope, likely to last only several days and to target military sites but not the chemical weapons stocks themselves, sources in Washington said.

An opposition Syrian National Coalition official said in Beirut that the group expects a Western military intervention and it has been consulted over targets, which included airports, military bases and arms depots.

"It's a question of days and not weeks," said Ahmad Ramadan, adding that "there have been meetings between the Coalition, the (rebel) Free Syrian Army and allied countries."

The White House, meanwhile, said Obama had called British Premier Cameron on Tuesday to discuss the Syria crisis, their second call in as many days. The US president has also spoken to the leaders of Australia, Canada and France.

Cameron's deputy Nick Clegg echoed US assurances about not seeking regime change. The Arab League meanwhile put the "entire responsibility" for the "horrible crime" in Syria on Assad's government.

The regime has denied it fired chemical weapons into the Damascus suburb, killing many of the victims in their beds. It says the rebels battling Assad in a vicious civil war are responsible.

Syria's ally Moscow maintained its stance against military action.

"Attempts to bypass the Security Council, once again to create artificial groundless excuses for a military intervention in the region are fraught with new suffering in Syria and catastrophic consequences for other countries of the Middle East and North Africa," a Russian foreign ministry spokesman said.

Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, said on Twitter that: "The West behaves towards the Islamic world like a monkey with a grenade."

Iran, Syria's main regional ally, said Western action would threaten the stability and security of the region.

But another key regional power Turkey, said the chemical attack was a "crime against humanity" that "cannot go unpunished."

Amid fears of reprisals for any Western attack, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed a fierce retaliation if his country came under fire.

"We are not part of the civil war in Syria, but if we detect any attempt to hurt us, we will react, and react fiercely," he said.

Increasing signs of impending military action hit global stock markets.

Most European equities fell sharply as investors ignored solid data from Germany and nervously eyed Syria, sending the price of safe-haven gold soaring.

Oil prices soared, with Brent crude striking six-month highs on supply concerns.

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Re: US Forces to Punish Syria, not Push Regime Change
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2013, 10:37:58 AM »
Right.  Since Syria is right now engaged in a tough conflict with the rebels, weakening one side - in this case the Syrian government - will necessarily make it easier for the other side - the rebels - to defeat the government.  As such, attacking Syria right now is tantamount to attempting regime change, irrespective of what Obama and his mouthpieces may say their intentions are.  What matters is not one's expressed intention, uttered in a vacuum, but the clearly foreseeable consequences of one's actions.  In this case, it is blatantly foreseeable that attacking Syria will lead to regime change, and therefore the Obama (mal)administration can only be regarded as in fact intending regime change, whatever pretty, empty, words come out of their mouths.

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Re: US Forces to Punish Syria, not Push Regime Change
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2013, 10:50:02 AM »
Good post, Oceander. Generally, the person who gets in the middle of a fight with thugs, is the one to get seriously wounded ... by both of them.

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Re: US Forces to Punish Syria, not Push Regime Change
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2013, 11:17:36 AM »

I just hope we don't lose any naval assets via anti-ship missles...


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Re: US Forces to Punish Syria, not Push Regime Change
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2013, 12:34:07 PM »
I don't want to help the terrorist rebels. I'm not convinced the terrorists are the source of the chemicals, as is the latest popular chant on fringy-webs.

There must be forces of relative sanity, in Syria. Those who abhor terrorism, WMDs, violence against religious minorities, etc.

If we become involved, we should help those forces.

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Re: US Forces to Punish Syria, not Push Regime Change
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2013, 12:36:38 PM »
I don't want to help the terrorist rebels. I'm not convinced the terrorists are the source of the chemicals, as is the latest popular chant on fringy-webs.

There must be forces of relative sanity, in Syria. Those who abhor terrorism, WMDs, violence against religious minorities, etc.

If we become involved, we should help those forces.

Agreed we should help those sorts of forces; the real problem is trying to reliably identify them.  The Devil, as always, is in the details.


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