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Obama's Dramatic Violation of the Constitution
« on: August 13, 2013, 05:53:15 PM »

Obama's Dramatic Violation of the Constitution
August 13, 2013


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RUSH: Billings, Montana.  Hi, Linda.  You're next to the Rush Limbaugh program.  Hi.

CALLER:  Hi, Rush. First-time caller, long time listener.  Just want to tell you how much I love you.

RUSH:  Thank you very much.

CALLER:  Anyway, I wanted to ask you, is anybody suing President Obama for not following through on this legislation?

RUSH:  You know, that is a fascinating question. Constitutionally, Obama can't do this.

CALLER:  Yes.



RUSH:  The legislation is the legislation.  He cannot write legislation.

CALLER:  Yes.

RUSH:  He cannot unilaterally change legislation.  He is not a dictator.  This is not an imperial presidency, although he's acting like it.

CALLER:  Uh-huh.

RUSH:  But if nobody is gonna hold him accountable for these kinds of things -- he can't do all of this.  He can't grant these waivers.  He can't do all these exemptions.  He can't just decide, "I'm going to delay that part of the bill that I signed into law."  He cannot write legislation, other than during the process, of course, he has a liaison with Congress and they might work, but after it's signed into law, he can't go in and change it. This is not how this happens.  This is extraconstitutional, meaning outside the Constitution.  It's the law of the land now.  He just can't decide willy-nilly when it is and when it isn't.

CALLER:  Uh-huh.

RUSH:  So what we have here is another change in Obamacare, which we're told is now the law, and therefore can't be changed, we're told we can't repeal it.  Obama himself said, "We can't repeal it," and the Republicans don't want anybody to have health care and all those lies that he tells.  We can't repeal it 'cause it's the law of the land.  Well, he is.  He is in effect repealing or delaying parts of it that are harmful to him politically.  Can't do this.  Suing him?  Somebody should.  You let a Republican president try to do this, change legislation to benefit him at the next election.  You wait and see how far he'd get.

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RUSH:  One other thing to this, folks. This move today of delaying this whole business on the caps, out-of-pocket caps, expenses and so forth, this is going to really increase the profitability of insurance companies, for just this next year.  The insurance companies are gonna be paying out far less.  Their profits are gonna skyrocket.  Now, I expect it will not be long until a bunch of far left extremist kook networks and websites figure this out, and they are going to start screaming bloody murder, and Obama knows this.

The thing about this, when I first learned of this today, that was the main point that confused me, because what Obama is doing here, make no mistake, he is delaying this implementation of consumer cost protections. Stop and think of that for just a second, now.  In relationship to the elections in 2014, the Democrats want to win the House, hold the Senate, of course, he is delaying consumer cost protections.  He is increasing insurance company profits.  Why?  How in the world is that going to help the Democrats?  That's gonna anger a lot of people.



Well, there's a bunch of things at play.  I really don't think there are too many consumers who know the nuts-and-bolts details of how it is they are going to save money.  They just think they are.  Start talking to them about caps on out-of-pocket expenses, I mean, they might actually understand that in more numbers than I think.  But on one hand, insurance company profits skyrocket, consumer cost protections delayed to help Obama and the Democrats in 2014.  How does that work?  There must be something worse.  What's worse than this?

What's the other side?  The other side is if this is not delayed, everybody's premiums are going to skyrocket.  And it is clear to me that Obama has made his own cost benefit analysis, and the Democrats have decided that there is less damage to their electoral chances by delaying all this and making sure that insurance premiums don't skyrocket than the other way.  So insurance company profits are going to be much higher this year when the left wing, all the pajama clad bloggers and the anonymous lunatics that post comments to their websites and the dummkopfs at MSNBC, I mean, profit is like showing Dracula the cross.  Insurance companies are among the most hated of all capitalistic entities on the left.



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Re: Obama's Dramatic Violation of the Constitution
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2013, 06:11:05 PM »
If John Boehner only had a spine...... 8888crybaby

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Re: Obama's Dramatic Violation of the Constitution
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2013, 06:18:25 PM »
"He is not a dictator."

Yes, he is.

If no one can challenge him successfully, if neither Congress nor the Supreme Court will say "no" to him, then what exactly is the difference?
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2013, 08:16:07 AM »
"He is not a dictator."

Yes, he is.

If no one can challenge him successfully, if neither Congress nor the Supreme Court will say "no" to him, then what exactly is the difference?

Yep. Heck, just mocking Obama can cost you your job, imagine the risk of challenging him.

The Republic is dead my friends.

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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2013, 08:47:50 AM »
Yep. Heck, just mocking Obama can cost you your job, imagine the risk of challenging him.

The Republic is dead my friends.

In the absence of an effective political opposition - and that is where we are today - the only way for citizens to find out for certain whether they are living in an undeclared dictatorship is to personally refuse to obey those government dictates that conflict with fundamental civil liberties.

An example would be the right to seek professional services from whoever I wish to deal with voluntarily and in exchange for mutual value.

The reaction of the government to such civil disobedience will tell people all they need to know. If the legislature moves to protect the people by restraining the executive and/or by revoking its own offending legislation, then freedom may be said to still exist, even if unsatisfactory outcomes remain.

If the legislature does nothing, or worse, moves to further constrain the rights of the people - even at the behest of an electoral majority - and if the judiciary no longer finds itself bound by the plain words and meaning of the nation's foundational documents: then other means must be advanced by which to recover the people's birthright.

I believe we are getting close to a time of great testing. I sincerely hope you are ready for it.
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Re: Obama's Dramatic Violation of the Constitution
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2013, 09:38:31 AM »
I believe we are getting close to a time of great testing. I sincerely hope you are ready for it.

I'm ready. I have some advantages over many Americans. I'm armed, and my debt is minimal. I was educated long ago, which fortunately included educating me to think critically. How well I employ that education is open to debate, but at least I have the exposure. I'm older, so what I want is minimal. Most government intrusion doesn't even bother me. Eventually the government will find and bother me, that is the nature of ever expanding government. However, I spent four years in the USN. I have experience living in conditions that were restrictive.

I will not take up arms in a situation where the odds are ridiculously against me. I will not fight while in a huge minority. I will not instigate while the vast majority of my countrymen are uninterested. I will do what I do here, watch, and comment, and express my sadness over what is transpiring. Which is to say, nothing.

This is a fight that will have to be taken up by a public that has learned to chafe at the bit of communism. And that will be long after I've passed away.

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2013, 10:33:09 AM »


This is a fight that will have to be taken up by a public that has learned to chafe at the bit of communism. And that will be long after I've passed away.



Strangely, have been thinking about that a lot lately...at the age of 67.   Once you come to grips with your mortality, dreams and goals morph into sadness.   Sadness that you're not going to be able help your children and grand children who have no idea what it was to grow up in a free, capitalist society...without a government boot on your neck.

For somebody our age, Relic....it's hard to comprehend how our great experiment here in the USA could be cast aside in favor of Communism and Socialism.

To see your fellow countryman not recognize what's happening to them...to see ambivalence when you expect outrage.

I've grown so tired.
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Re: Obama's Dramatic Violation of the Constitution
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2013, 10:42:51 AM »
Strangely, have been thinking about that a lot lately...at the age of 67.   Once you come to grips with your mortality, dreams and goals morph into sadness.   Sadness that you're not going to be able help your children and grand children who have no idea what it was to grow up in a free, capitalist society...without a government boot on your neck.

For somebody our age, Relic....it's hard to comprehend how our great experiment here in the USA could be cast aside in favor of Communism and Socialism.

To see your fellow countryman not recognize what's happening to them...to see ambivalence when you expect outrage.

I've grown so tired.

Mate - you got ten years on me. But ....

Your body is tired. Your soul is not. It takes minimal energy to type or call.
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Re: Obama's Dramatic Violation of the Constitution
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2013, 10:53:21 AM »
To see your fellow countryman not recognize what's happening to them...to see ambivalence when you expect outrage.

I've grown so tired.

That is the key. I've been the a firey type most of my life. I've mellowed, but I have been warning, thrashing, trying to make my friends, family and anyone who would listen aware of what is going on. I'm met by apathy, at best. Some think I'm just a kook. It's too big of a fight to do it alone. So, I prepare, I watch, I mourn.

I'm EC's age, so you have a few years on me, but we come from a similar place in time. And I know what you mean about being tired.

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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2013, 11:29:11 AM »
I am EC's and Relic's age...but like DC, I am tired too...modern life wears you down emotionally and that makes you tired.  The inevitable slouching of our society toward not just Gomorrah, but toward statism and totalitarianism - we are already not free to state our views on certain subjects without retribution from society's thought police, people are being ostracized and prevented from transacting business because of words they said decades ago - this makes you tired.

We are at the front end of this new American paradigm and every one of us knows and understands history...the history of these kinds of statist revolutions - the terrors that come from those that feel righteous indignation from perceived past wrongs that they will demand reparations for in the new societal structure.  The takings that come...the destruction, like Detroit, that comes from living off the carcass of the old system.

We know that it will take generations of misery before the "bit of communism" hurts enough...before the rich carcass of the old system has been picked clean, before the pain of going on is worse than the pain of throwing off your ruling masters.  We won't see that in our lifetimes.

« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 11:31:33 AM by Scottftlc »
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2013, 11:36:54 AM »
For some reason this thread reminded me of a line from Pet Semetary.

"The old are the watchers in the night." Might not be 100% accurate - been a while since  I read it - but it is close. Comforting, too.
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Re: Obama's Dramatic Violation of the Constitution
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2013, 12:30:04 PM »
Depends on the breadth of power he has to draft regulations to implement - and in many cases to make decisions about what will, and what will not, be implemented.  If you look at the Internal Revenue Code and then compare it against the Treasury Regulations, you'll find a similar sort of arrangement with many provisions.


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