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Russia’s Anti-Gay Crackdown
« on: July 23, 2013, 02:15:36 am »
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/opinion/russias-anti-gay-crackdown.html?hp&_r=0

Russia’s Anti-Gay Crackdown
By HARVEY FIERSTEIN
Published: July 21, 2013

RUSSIA’S president, Vladimir V. Putin, has declared war on homosexuals. So far, the world has mostly been silent.

On July 3, Mr. Putin signed a law banning the adoption of Russian-born children not only to gay couples but also to any couple or single parent living in any country where marriage equality exists in any form.

A few days earlier, just six months before Russia hosts the 2014 Winter Games, Mr. Putin signed a law allowing police officers to arrest tourists and foreign nationals they suspect of being homosexual, lesbian or “pro-gay” and detain them for up to 14 days. Contrary to what the International Olympic Committee says, the law could mean that any Olympic athlete, trainer, reporter, family member or fan who is gay — or suspected of being gay, or just accused of being gay — can go to jail.

Earlier in June, Mr. Putin signed yet another antigay bill, classifying “homosexual propaganda” as pornography. The law is broad and vague, so that any teacher who tells students that homosexuality is not evil, any parents who tell their child that homosexuality is normal, or anyone who makes pro-gay statements deemed accessible to someone underage is now subject to arrest and fines. Even a judge, lawyer or lawmaker cannot publicly argue for tolerance without the threat of punishment.

Finally, it is rumored that Mr. Putin is about to sign an edict that would remove children from their own families if the parents are either gay or lesbian or suspected of being gay or lesbian. The police would have the authority to remove children from adoptive homes as well as from their own biological parents.

Not surprisingly, some gay and lesbian families are already beginning to plan their escapes from Russia.

Why is Mr. Putin so determined to criminalize homosexuality? He has defended his actions by saying that the Russian birthrate is diminishing and that Russian families as a whole are in danger of decline. That may be. But if that is truly his concern, he should be embracing gay and lesbian couples who, in my world, are breeding like proverbial bunnies. These days I rarely meet a gay couple who aren’t raising children.

And if Mr. Putin thinks he is protecting heterosexual marriage by denying us the same unions, he hasn’t kept up with the research. Studies from San Diego State University compared homosexual civil unions and heterosexual marriages in Vermont and found that the same-sex relationships demonstrate higher levels of satisfaction, sexual fulfillment and happiness. (Vermont legalized same-sex marriages in 2009, after the study was completed.)

Mr. Putin also says that his adoption ban was enacted to protect children from pedophiles. Once again the research does not support the homophobic rhetoric. About 90 percent of pedophiles are heterosexual men.

Mr. Putin’s true motives lie elsewhere. Historically this kind of scapegoating is used by politicians to solidify their bases and draw attention away from their failing policies, and no doubt this is what’s happening in Russia. Counting on the natural backlash against the success of marriage equality around the world and recruiting support from conservative religious organizations, Mr. Putin has sallied forth into this battle, figuring that the only opposition he will face will come from the left, his favorite boogeyman.

Mr. Putin’s campaign against lesbian, gay and bisexual people is one of distraction, a strategy of demonizing a minority for political gain taken straight from the Nazi playbook. Can we allow this war against human rights to go unanswered? Although Mr. Putin may think he can control his creation, history proves he cannot: his condemnations are permission to commit violence against gays and lesbians. Last week a young gay man was murdered in the city of Volgograd. He was beaten, his body violated with beer bottles, his clothing set on fire, his head crushed with a rock. This is most likely just the beginning.

Nevertheless, the rest of the world remains almost completely ignorant of Mr. Putin’s agenda. His adoption restrictions have received some attention, but it has been largely limited to people involved in international adoptions.

This must change. With Russia about to hold the Winter Games in Sochi, the country is open to pressure. American and world leaders must speak out against Mr. Putin’s attacks and the violence they foster. The Olympic Committee must demand the retraction of these laws under threat of boycott.

In 1936 the world attended the Olympics in Germany. Few participants said a word about Hitler’s campaign against the Jews. Supporters of that decision point proudly to the triumph of Jesse Owens, while I point with dread to the Holocaust and world war. There is a price for tolerating intolerance.
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Re: Russia’s Anti-Gay Crackdown
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 02:17:25 am »
There's no equivalence - moral, functional or otherwise -  between what Hitler did and what Putin has done. Sorry, Harvey.
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Re: Russia’s Anti-Gay Crackdown
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2013, 02:32:40 am »
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Last week a young gay man was murdered in the city of Volgograd. He was beaten, his body violated with beer bottles, his clothing set on fire, his head crushed with a rock
and ? ...does the writer of this tripe have any proof it was a hate crime ?
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Re: Russia’s Anti-Gay Crackdown
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 02:35:35 am »
and ? ...does the writer of this tripe have any proof it was a hate crime ?

Good question Charles.  I would submit that any time someone is brutally murdered - whether it be a homosexual, a heterosexual, a man, a woman or a child - IT IS A HATE CRIME. 
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Re: Russia’s Anti-Gay Crackdown
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 06:01:00 pm »
State of intolerance: Gays and lesbians could be arrested at Sochi Winter Olympics under new Russian anti-gay law

The Australian Olympic Committee believes athletes competing at the Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia will be safe, despite a new law allowing police to arrest gay tourists.

The law, brought into effect just weeks ago, allows police to arrest tourists or foreigners whom they suspect of being gay or lesbian. In addition to being a human rights violation, the law goes directly against the International Olympic Committee charter of non-discrimination.

Australian officials cannot guarantee gay athletes travelling to Sochi would be free from persecution or arrest. But they believe athletes will be protected by the IOC charter.

"I don't think gay athletes in Sochi have anything to fear," said long-serving AOC spokesman Mike Tancred.

"Under the IOC charter, discrimination of any kind is strictly forbidden. I am sure the IOC values will prevail."

Under the law, passed by President Vladimir Putin, police can detain suspects for up to 14 days, and their powers will even extend towards people considered "pro-gay." 

While there are no known gay athletes of the 100 or so Australians battling for a spot on our 50-strong Winter Olympic team, the new law means that any fan, athlete or coach could be arrested for harmless acts such as unfurling a rainbow flag or holding hands with a member of the same sex.

The anti-gay law is in direct defiance of the "Seven Fundamental Principles of Olympism" contained within the Olympic Charter. Principle Number 6 states: "Any form of discrimination with regard to a country or a person on grounds of race, religion, politics, gender or otherwise is incompatible with belonging to the Olympic Movement."

The Charter also makes frequent references to such concepts as "universal fundamental ethical principles" and "the harmonious development of humankind, with a view to promoting a peaceful society concerned with the preservation of human dignity".

The International Olympic Committee issued a statement in response to the Russian law, saying it will make sure "the Games can take place without discrimination against athletes, officials, spectators and the media".

Meanwhile Russian authorities remain hostile towards homosexuals. A recent gay pride rally in Russia's second largest city St Petersburg turned violent after right-wing elements and authorities attacked marchers.

President Putin's has tried to justify his push to criminalise homosexuality by arguing the Russian birthrate is slowing, and that the traditional family unit is under threat. Opponents have said he is demonising a minority purely for political gain.

This latest controversy comes at a time when the cost of the Sochi games has reportedly ballooned from initial estimates of $10 billion to a staggering $52 billion. Another controversy is bubbling away in America, with calls to boycott the Games if Russia continues to shelter whistleblower Edward Snowden.

The Sochi Olympics are widely seen as President Putin's pet project. Sochi is his home away from home, a Black Sea resort at the bottom tip of Russia which is so far south, it has palm trees. Despite its relatively mild temperatures, Sochi is situated on the doorstep of Europe's highest mountains, the Caucasus. Putin is said to have a private ski lodge at the resort of Rosa Khutor, where alpine events will be held at the Games.

Russian tourism authorities plan to market the Caucasus resorts as a major European snow sports destination after the Olympics. Safe to assume they're not pinning too much hope on the pink dollar.


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Re: Russia’s Anti-Gay Crackdown
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2013, 10:29:44 pm »
Good question Charles.  I would submit that any time someone is brutally murdered - whether it be a homosexual, a heterosexual, a man, a woman or a child - IT IS A HATE CRIME.
could a just be gay on gay lovers spat.When I was on FR way back,there was a cop or Emt who said some  of the most violent and bloody crime scenes he had to deal with were lovers spats and jealous fights between gays .
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Re: Russia’s Anti-Gay Crackdown
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2013, 12:19:01 am »
could a just be gay on gay lovers spat.When I was on FR way back,there was a cop or Emt who said some  of the most violent and bloody crime scenes he had to deal with were lovers spats and jealous fights between gays .

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Re: Russia’s Anti-Gay Crackdown
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2013, 12:31:15 am »
there was a cop or Emt who said some  of the most violent and bloody crime scenes he had to deal with were lovers spats and jealous fights between gays.

As a subset to that I have often heard some of the most contentious domestic battles occur with lesbians, and I'll tell ya, if I were a cop, the thing I would fear most is some out of control female.
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Re: Russia’s Anti-Gay Crackdown
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2013, 11:14:06 am »
there was a cop or Emt who said some  of the most violent and bloody crime scenes he had to deal with were lovers spats and jealous fights between gays.

As a subset to that I have often heard some of the most contentious domestic battles occur with lesbians, and I'll tell ya, if I were a cop, the thing I would fear most is some out of control female.

They are violent.  The same mania that causes them to prefer the company of women, makes them exponentially jealous.
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Re: Russia’s Anti-Gay Crackdown
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2013, 12:31:18 am »
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he should be embracing gay and lesbian couples who, in my world, are breeding like proverbial bunnies.
Welcome to Bizarro World, where members of the same sex are now capable of actually breeding with each other! Good grief. Last I checked, it still takes a man and a woman to produce a child, something a same-sex relationship cannot produce.

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About 90 percent of pedophiles are heterosexual men.
And just where does he come up with this statistic? Do girls compose 90 percent of pedophilia victims? I think not.

Fierstein should stick to show business because he has no basic understanding of biology (which would explain his gayness) or statistics.
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