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Offline Rapunzel

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« on: July 22, 2013, 10:15:36 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2013, 10:17:25 PM »
There's no equivalence - moral, functional or otherwise -  between what Hitler did and what Putin has done. Sorry, Harvey.
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2013, 10:32:40 PM »
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Last week a young gay man was murdered in the city of Volgograd. He was beaten, his body violated with beer bottles, his clothing set on fire, his head crushed with a rock
and ? ...does the writer of this tripe have any proof it was a hate crime ?
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2013, 10:35:35 PM »
and ? ...does the writer of this tripe have any proof it was a hate crime ?

Good question Charles.  I would submit that any time someone is brutally murdered - whether it be a homosexual, a heterosexual, a man, a woman or a child - IT IS A HATE CRIME. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 02:01:00 PM »
State of intolerance: Gays and lesbians could be arrested at Sochi Winter Olympics under new Russian anti-gay law

The Australian Olympic Committee believes athletes competing at the Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia will be safe, despite a new law allowing police to arrest gay tourists.

The law, brought into effect just weeks ago, allows police to arrest tourists or foreigners whom they suspect of being gay or lesbian. In addition to being a human rights violation, the law goes directly against the International Olympic Committee charter of non-discrimination.

Australian officials cannot guarantee gay athletes travelling to Sochi would be free from persecution or arrest. But they believe athletes will be protected by the IOC charter.

"I don't think gay athletes in Sochi have anything to fear," said long-serving AOC spokesman Mike Tancred.

"Under the IOC charter, discrimination of any kind is strictly forbidden. I am sure the IOC values will prevail."

Under the law, passed by President Vladimir Putin, police can detain suspects for up to 14 days, and their powers will even extend towards people considered "pro-gay." 

While there are no known gay athletes of the 100 or so Australians battling for a spot on our 50-strong Winter Olympic team, the new law means that any fan, athlete or coach could be arrested for harmless acts such as unfurling a rainbow flag or holding hands with a member of the same sex.

The anti-gay law is in direct defiance of the "Seven Fundamental Principles of Olympism" contained within the Olympic Charter. Principle Number 6 states: "Any form of discrimination with regard to a country or a person on grounds of race, religion, politics, gender or otherwise is incompatible with belonging to the Olympic Movement."

The Charter also makes frequent references to such concepts as "universal fundamental ethical principles" and "the harmonious development of humankind, with a view to promoting a peaceful society concerned with the preservation of human dignity".

The International Olympic Committee issued a statement in response to the Russian law, saying it will make sure "the Games can take place without discrimination against athletes, officials, spectators and the media".

Meanwhile Russian authorities remain hostile towards homosexuals. A recent gay pride rally in Russia's second largest city St Petersburg turned violent after right-wing elements and authorities attacked marchers.

President Putin's has tried to justify his push to criminalise homosexuality by arguing the Russian birthrate is slowing, and that the traditional family unit is under threat. Opponents have said he is demonising a minority purely for political gain.

This latest controversy comes at a time when the cost of the Sochi games has reportedly ballooned from initial estimates of $10 billion to a staggering $52 billion. Another controversy is bubbling away in America, with calls to boycott the Games if Russia continues to shelter whistleblower Edward Snowden.

The Sochi Olympics are widely seen as President Putin's pet project. Sochi is his home away from home, a Black Sea resort at the bottom tip of Russia which is so far south, it has palm trees. Despite its relatively mild temperatures, Sochi is situated on the doorstep of Europe's highest mountains, the Caucasus. Putin is said to have a private ski lodge at the resort of Rosa Khutor, where alpine events will be held at the Games.

Russian tourism authorities plan to market the Caucasus resorts as a major European snow sports destination after the Olympics. Safe to assume they're not pinning too much hope on the pink dollar.


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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2013, 06:29:44 PM »
Good question Charles.  I would submit that any time someone is brutally murdered - whether it be a homosexual, a heterosexual, a man, a woman or a child - IT IS A HATE CRIME.
could a just be gay on gay lovers spat.When I was on FR way back,there was a cop or Emt who said some  of the most violent and bloody crime scenes he had to deal with were lovers spats and jealous fights between gays .
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2013, 08:19:01 PM »
could a just be gay on gay lovers spat.When I was on FR way back,there was a cop or Emt who said some  of the most violent and bloody crime scenes he had to deal with were lovers spats and jealous fights between gays .

The most dangerous time for a police officer is a domestic violence call (and for people they are having to evict)....

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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2013, 08:31:15 PM »
there was a cop or Emt who said some  of the most violent and bloody crime scenes he had to deal with were lovers spats and jealous fights between gays.

As a subset to that I have often heard some of the most contentious domestic battles occur with lesbians, and I'll tell ya, if I were a cop, the thing I would fear most is some out of control female.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2013, 07:14:06 AM »
there was a cop or Emt who said some  of the most violent and bloody crime scenes he had to deal with were lovers spats and jealous fights between gays.

As a subset to that I have often heard some of the most contentious domestic battles occur with lesbians, and I'll tell ya, if I were a cop, the thing I would fear most is some out of control female.

They are violent.  The same mania that causes them to prefer the company of women, makes them exponentially jealous.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2013, 08:31:18 PM »
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he should be embracing gay and lesbian couples who, in my world, are breeding like proverbial bunnies.
Welcome to Bizarro World, where members of the same sex are now capable of actually breeding with each other! Good grief. Last I checked, it still takes a man and a woman to produce a child, something a same-sex relationship cannot produce.

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About 90 percent of pedophiles are heterosexual men.
And just where does he come up with this statistic? Do girls compose 90 percent of pedophilia victims? I think not.

Fierstein should stick to show business because he has no basic understanding of biology (which would explain his gayness) or statistics.


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