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Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2013, 07:28:41 PM »
Second.

The greatest warplane of all time is the Mil-24A. Fast, carries a ton and a half of munitions and is pretty much indestructible. It has the added bonus of being too ugly for even a mother to love.
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2013, 07:45:52 PM »
Actually - gonna throw this out there. Back in WW2, planes were delivered by WACS. The Woman's Air Corps Auxiliary. Mosquitoes, Spitfires, Hurricanes, even Lancasters and Halifaxes were all flown to their airbases from the factories by women.

My Dad's eldest sister was one of them. They were given minimal fuel and a partial load out for the weapons for the trips, just in case.

My aunt has two confirmed kills to her name, both in a Spitfire. Not exactly an ace, but this tiny woman did stuff I can't even imagine doing. She's still alive now - she is over 100 - and still amazing. Just phoned her.  :laugh:
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2013, 12:36:41 AM »
Greatest airplane off WW II? P-51 Mustang. Without it deep penetration raids into the Reich would have been chopped into dog meat. As for the Mosquito, its nearest equivalent the Ju-88 could do everything thr Mosquito could do. And it also served as a torpedo bomber.  :smokin:
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2013, 02:44:34 PM »
Greatest airplane off WW II? P-51 Mustang. Without it deep penetration raids into the Reich would have been chopped into dog meat. As for the Mosquito, its nearest equivalent the Ju-88 could do everything thr Mosquito could do. And it also served as a torpedo bomber.  :smokin:
P-51 one of my faves planes of  WWII!  I had a chance to fly in one once, turned it down. Should have done it.




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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2013, 09:01:09 PM »
P-51 one of my faves planes of  WWII!  I had a chance to fly in one once, turned it down. Should have done it.

We had a Tuskegee Airman a member of my VFW post.   We always enjoyed his stories, and would often call on him to guest speak. As for the P51 being the best of WWII,  I would have to take Chuck Yeager's word for it.  He would most assuredly give it his vote.
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2013, 09:33:59 PM »
Harder to land than the Corsair???

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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2013, 09:59:57 PM »
If you have Netflix check out the documentary Battle of Britain (2011)   I gave it 5 stars.


To mark the Battle of Britain's 70th Anniversary, actor Ewan McGregor and his brother Colin, a former RAF pilot, lead viewers through key moments of the action when "The Few" of the RAF faced the mighty Nazi Luftwaffe. Together, the brothers take us on a journey to honor the heroes of 1940, bringing the amazing story of the Battle of Britain to a new generation. As Spitfires and Hurricanes once again fly over the White Cliffs of Dover, they reveal the inspiring personal stories of "The Few" who were there and those still with us today. Using great aerial footage mixed with impressive archival film, this is the definitive program on the Battle of Britain.

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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2013, 11:05:32 PM »
What could be prettier than this:



or this:



The Mosquito was just a beautiful airplane.
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2013, 11:07:56 PM »
Greatest airplane off WW II? P-51 Mustang.   :smokin:

I would say that the P47 was a better aircraft. It didn't have the complexity of a liquid cooling system, heavier armor and armament, and performance was comparable with the P51. The P51 was just prettier than the Jug.
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2013, 11:36:54 PM »
Harder to land than the Corsair???

Yeah. Problem was the closeness of the landing gear. Same problem with the Me 109. The Germns lost more pilots to crashes [especially on landing] than they did in combat.  :smokin:
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2013, 11:38:29 PM »
I would say that the P47 was a better aircraft. It didn't have the complexity of a liquid cooling system, heavier armor and armament, and performance was comparable with the P51. The P51 was just prettier than the Jug.

The P-51 had MUCH greater range. The JUG never overcame that problem. Even with drop tanks.
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2013, 11:40:02 PM »
If you have Netflix check out the documentary Battle of Britain (2011)   I gave it 5 stars.


To mark the Battle of Britain's 70th Anniversary, actor Ewan McGregor and his brother Colin, a former RAF pilot, lead viewers through key moments of the action when "The Few" of the RAF faced the mighty Nazi Luftwaffe. Together, the brothers take us on a journey to honor the heroes of 1940, bringing the amazing story of the Battle of Britain to a new generation. As Spitfires and Hurricanes once again fly over the White Cliffs of Dover, they reveal the inspiring personal stories of "The Few" who were there and those still with us today. Using great aerial footage mixed with impressive archival film, this is the definitive program on the Battle of Britain.

At the risk of being a maverick, to paraphrase Churchill, "Never have so many owed so much to the fuel capacity of the Me 109.
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2013, 11:42:13 PM »
What could be prettier than this:



or this:



The Mosquito was just a beautiful airplane.

DeHavilland designed really beautiful planes. 

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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2013, 12:11:06 AM »
What about some consideration for the bombers of WWII?  It seems to me that some credit should be given to some of those aircraft, aircraft that could be shot through and through, with major sections missing, and still bring their crews back home.

This:



is, according to this webpage:  http://www.yellowairplane.com/models_bombers/images/Shackled_Crashed_B-17_Bomber_WW2_Okinawa.html (the actual story starts at the right side of the second photo on that page, not at the top),

a B-17 that took a direct hit from a German anti-aircraft gun, which killed one of the crew (the story says the round most likely landed in his lap, literally) and, as the image shows, blew the h*ll out of the entire nose section.  Nonetheless, the remaining crew were able to fly the bomber back to base - with some assistance from a pair of P-51s - land it, and walk away alive.

This:



is a photograph of the tail section of the B-17 "All American" after the bomber had been attacked by a pair of German fighters after making a bombing run in North Africa.  According to the story on this webpage:  http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbird-articles/wwiis-b-17-all-american-separating-fact-fiction.html , one of the German fighters was hit while it was close to the "All American" and it struck the "All American" and "tore a significant hole in the rear of the fuselage and removed the left horizontal stabilizer."

Nonetheless, the crew were able to fly the "All American" back to base and land it safely.

I suppose it depends on your perspective, but I'd rank the B-17 up there pretty high considering its ability to take such awe-inspiring damage and still bring its crews home.


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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2013, 09:33:49 AM »
Altough it's not the greatest in terms of speed, bomb load, etc, I'd vote for the Ju 87B 'Stuka'. Its image is synonomous with World War II.   :smokin:
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2013, 10:52:02 AM »
Altough it's not the greatest in terms of speed, bomb load, etc, I'd vote for the Ju 87B 'Stuka'. Its image is synonomous with World War II.   :smokin:

Might not have been the fastest or carried a huge load out, but it was perfectly designed for what it did - cause sheer terror. It had a decent enough range and was devastating to the convoys.

Agreed -  :smokin:

No love for the B25? North American took an HP Halifax and made it pretty.
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2013, 11:02:20 PM »
At the risk of being a maverick, to paraphrase Churchill, "Never have so many owed so much to the fuel capacity of the Me 109.

Yep. It was pathetic.
I wonder when the lies will stop and truth begin, even as grim as the truth may be. And then I remember that for 70 years, the reign of terror in Russia called itself "the people's government." We have so far to fall, yet we are falling fast and Hell yawns to receive us.

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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2013, 11:05:11 PM »
Altough it's not the greatest in terms of speed, bomb load, etc, I'd vote for the Ju 87B 'Stuka'. Its image is synonomous with World War II.   :smokin:

It was all but obsolete at the beginning of the war. Even so, it was an effective ground attack aircraft on the eastern front.
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2013, 11:29:12 PM »
It was all but obsolete at the beginning of the war. Even so, it was an effective ground attack aircraft on the eastern front.

True. But to me, the Ju 87 was the coolest looking plane of the war. And despite the obsolescence, Rudel sank a battleship and busted a whole bunch of tanks with one. Hell, it soldiered on when dedicated ground attack aircraft  couldn't [Heinkel 129(?)].  :smokin:
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Re: Is the Mosquito the greatest warplane of all?
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2013, 11:32:15 PM »
True. But to me, the Ju 87 was the coolest looking plane of the war. And despite the obsolescence, Rudel sank a battleship and busted a whole bunch of tanks with one. Hell, it soldiered on when dedicated ground attack aircraft  couldn't [Heinkel 129(?)].  :smokin:

It was totally cool looking.  It sort of epitomizes the idea of a dive-bomber.


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