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     Updated July 18, 2013, 7:02 p.m. ET

Noonan: A Bombshell in the IRS Scandal - A higher office is implicated.

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    PEGGY NOONAN


The IRS scandal was connected this week not just to the Washington office—that had been established—but to the office of the chief counsel.

That is a bombshell—such a big one that it managed to emerge in spite of an unfocused, frequently off-point congressional hearing in which some members seemed to have accidentally woken up in the middle of a committee room, some seemed unaware of the implications of what their investigators had uncovered, one pretended that the investigation should end if IRS workers couldn't say the president had personally called and told them to harass his foes, and one seemed to be holding a filibuster on Pakistan.

Still, what landed was a bombshell. And Democrats know it. Which is why they are so desperate to make the investigation go away. They know, as Republicans do, that the chief counsel of the IRS is one of only two Obama political appointees in the entire agency.

To quickly review why the new information, which came most succinctly in a nine-page congressional letter to IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel, is big news:


IRS Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division revenue agent Elizabeth Hofacre, left, and retired IRS tax law specialist Carter Hull testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Capitol Hill on Thursday.

When the scandal broke two months ago, in May, IRS leadership in Washington claimed the harassment of tea-party and other conservative groups requesting tax-exempt status was confined to the Cincinnati office, where a few rogue workers bungled the application process. Lois Lerner, then the head of the exempt organizations unit in Washington, said "line people in Cincinnati" did work that was "not so fine." They asked questions that "weren't really necessary," she claimed, and operated without "the appropriate level of sensitivity." But the targeting was "not intentional." Ousted acting commissioner Steven Miller also put it off on "people in Cincinnati." They provided "horrible customer service."

House investigators soon talked to workers in the Cincinnati office, who said everything they did came from Washington. Elizabeth Hofacre, in charge of processing tea-party applications in Cincinnati, told investigators that her work was overseen and directed by a lawyer in the IRS Washington office named Carter Hull.

Now comes Mr. Hull's testimony. And like Ms. Hofacre, he pointed his finger upward. Mr. Hull—a 48-year IRS veteran and an expert on tax exemption law—told investigators that tea-party applications under his review were sent upstairs within the Washington office, at the direction of Lois Lerner.

In April 2010, Hull was assigned to scrutinize certain tea-party applications. He requested more information from the groups. After he received responses, he felt he knew enough to determine whether the applications should be approved or denied.

But his recommendations were not carried out.

Michael Seto, head of Mr. Hull's unit, also spoke to investigators. He told them Lois Lerner made an unusual decision: Tea-party applications would undergo additional scrutiny—a multilayered review.

Mr. Hull told House investigators that at some point in the winter of 2010-11, Ms. Lerner's senior adviser, whose name is withheld in the publicly released partial interview transcript, told him the applications would require further review:

Q: "Did [the senior adviser to Ms. Lerner] indicate to you whether she agreed with your recommendations?"

A: "She did not say whether she agreed or not. She said it should go to chief counsel."

Q: "The IRS chief counsel?"

A: "The IRS chief counsel."

The IRS chief counsel is named William Wilkins. And again, he is one of only two Obama political appointees in the IRS.

What was the chief counsel's office looking for? The letter to Mr. Werfel says Mr. Hull's supervisor, Ronald Shoemaker, provided insight: The counsel's office wanted, in the words of the congressional committees, "information about the applicants' political activities leading up to the 2010 election." Mr. Shoemaker told investigators he didn't find that kind of question unreasonable, but he found the counsel's office to be "not very forthcoming": "We discussed it to some extent and they indicated that they wanted more development of possible political activity or political intervention right before the election period."

It's almost as if—my words—the conservative organizations in question were, during two major election cycles, deliberately held in a holding pattern.

So: What the IRS originally claimed was a rogue operation now reaches up not only to the Washington office, but into the office of the IRS chief counsel himself.

At the generally lacking House Oversight Committee Hearings on Thursday, some big things still got said.

Ms. Hofacre of the Cincinnati office testified that when she was given tea-party applications, she had to kick them upstairs. When she was given non-tea-party applications, they were sent on for normal treatment. Was she told to send liberal or progressive groups for special scrutiny? No, she did not scrutinize the applications of liberal or progressive groups. "I would send those to general inventory." Who got extra scrutiny? "They were all tea-party and patriot cases." She became "very frustrated" by the "micromanagement" from Washington. "It was like working in lost luggage." She applied to be transferred.

For his part, Mr. Hull backed up what he'd told House investigators. He described what was, essentially, a big, lengthy runaround in the Washington office in which no one was clear as to their reasons but everything was delayed. The multitiered scrutiny of the targeted groups was, he said, "unusual."

It was Maryland's Rep. Elijah Cummings, the panel's ranking Democrat, who, absurdly, asked Ms. Hofacre if the White House called the Cincinnati office to tell them what to do and whether she has knowledge of the president of the United States digging through the tax returns of citizens. Ms. Hofacre looked surprised. No, she replied.

It wasn't hard to imagine her thought bubble: Do congressmen think presidents call people like me and say, "Don't forget to harass my enemies"? Are congressmen that stupid?

Mr. Cummings is not, and his seeming desperation is telling. Recent congressional information leads to Washington—and now to very high up at the IRS. Meaning this is the point at which a scandal goes nowhere or, maybe, everywhere.

Rep. Trey Gowdy, a South Carolina Republican, finally woke the proceedings up with what he called "the evolution of the defense" since the scandal began. First, Ms. Lerner planted a question at a conference. Then she said the Cincinnati office did it—a narrative that was advanced by the president's spokesman, Jay Carney. Then came the suggestion the IRS was too badly managed to pull off a sophisticated conspiracy. Then the charge that liberal groups were targeted too—"we did it against both ends of the political spectrum." When the inspector general of the IRS said no, it was conservative groups that were targeted, he came under attack. Now the defense is that the White House wasn't involved, so case closed.

This is one Republican who is right about evolution.

Those trying to get to the bottom of the scandal have to dig in, pay attention. The administration's defenders, and their friends in the press, have made some progress in confusing the issue through misdirection and misstatement.

This is the moment things go forward or stall. Republicans need to find out how high the scandal went and why, exactly, it went there. To do that they'll have to up their game.
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

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That is a bombshell—such a big one that it managed to emerge in spite of an unfocused, frequently off-point congressional hearing in which some members seemed to have accidentally woken up in the middle of a committee room, some seemed unaware of the implications of what their investigators had uncovered, one pretended that the investigation should end if IRS workers couldn't say the president had personally called and told them to harass his foes, and one seemed to be holding a filibuster on Pakistan.

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This is the moment things go forward or stall. Republicans need to find out how high the scandal went and why, exactly, it went there. To do that they'll have to up their game.

Thanks for paying attention Peggy. If you had been doing that all along, perhaps you wouldn't have supported Obama in 2008? Yes, I hold a grudge.

Those two excerpts say it all. It's a bombshell. It's a huge example of corruption. Even Republicans on the committee could barely focus enough to realize it. With a corrupt, complicit media, there is no way low information voters are even going to have a clue what happened, let alone comprehend the meaning.

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Who cares?  In Florida, a "White Hispanic" shot an innocent black honor student and got away with it!  It's an outrage!  /s

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Who cares?  In Florida, a "White Hispanic" shot an innocent black honor student and got away with it!  It's an outrage!  /s

You forgot the black honor student did NOTHING wrong. He was simply enjoying his ice tea and skittles on a nice summer evening. No, the poor child was not making "drank".

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This is the moment things go forward or stall. Republicans need to find out how high the scandal went and why, exactly, it went there. To do that they'll have to up their game.

The sole purpose of the Republican Party is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.


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The GOP needs to stay on this.  No way should this organization be in charge of our healthcare.   **nononono*

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Thanks for paying attention Peggy. If you had been doing that all along, perhaps you wouldn't have supported Obama in 2008? Yes, I hold a grudge.
Why?  Why do you do that?  70 million people voted for Obama and 69,999,546 have never heard of Noonan.  None of the MSM is covering this.  But your First thought is F-you Peggy.

Who is your enemy?  It can't be Obama because you didn't hardly mention him except to blame his election on a columnist.  Then for good messure you get a dig in at all Republicans as unfocused.

The conservative way to get the message out...Dump on your own. 

And some of them think posting attacks against the GOP, every chance they get, makes them thoughtful instead of Obama supporters. 

Harriet Tubman said she freed a thousand slaves, and she could have freed a thousand more if they had known they were slaves.



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I think because Peggy went out of her way to trash the McCain campaign - and in particular Sarah Palin (remember her hot microphone moment on MSNBC?)  we have people like her to thank for our current predicament... now that we are 5 and a half years into this nightmare all of a sudden she has buyers remorse. If she and others like her had done their jobs perhaps we would not be stuck with him.
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I think because Peggy went out of her way to trash the McCain campaign - and in particular Sarah Palin (remember her hot microphone moment on MSNBC?)  we have people like her to thank for our current predicament... now that we are 5 and a half years into this nightmare all of a sudden she has buyers remorse. If she and others like her had done their jobs perhaps we would not be stuck with him.

I think I have no idea what you mean.  She "trashed McCain?"  I didn't read all of Noonan columns but "trashed" sounds like hyperbole.  I believe the worst thing she said was "it's over." She went on to explain that the comment was about the GOP base.  She said the GOP believe the GOP base is the American voter.  She said while that may have been true in the past it wasn't anymore. 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122044753790594947.html?mod=todays_columnists
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the party can no longer assume that its base is utterly in line with the thinking of the American people.
  That is not trashing..could you give me an example of trashed?

Until I get those examples of "trashed" I'm not buying that Noonan (or others like her) created 10 million votes for Obama.  I believe Noonan is irrelevant other than to reflect Washington DC opinion.  She didn't become a factor at all for 99.9% of voters.

I believe Noonan had almost no effect on liberals, blacks, or even low information moderate voters.  I'm less than impressed with some conservative critical thinking, but even I don't think conservatives can be led to vote for a socialist liberal black man because Noonan says so.  How am I wrong?
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I believe Noonan had almost no effect on liberals, blacks, or even low information moderate voters.  I'm less than impressed with some conservative critical thinking, but even I don't think conservatives can be led to vote for a socialist liberal black man because Noonan says so.  How am I wrong?

If you are here for an itemized documentary of Peggy Noonan comments, you're in the wrong place. Peggy Noonan gave every impression she supported Obama in 2008, and that was the big one. Incumbents have the edge for re-election. Noonan spent ink and TV time on MSNBC showing she was part of the "in crowd" supporting the incompetent, unqualified one. I saw it, it irritated me, and so I do say 'eff you Noonan. Obviously, I'm not the only one who noticed this.

If your keen insight, your non GOP bashing, superior perspective tells you Noonan had and has no effect whatsoever, why bother commenting? If you're correct, then trashing or praising her has the same overall result, no effect. So, interestingly, your defense of Noonan goes against your observation.

My opinion is that she had a platform, and she used it to indirectly, and at times directly support BHO. Just in case you're unable to use google, I'll provide you a link. Try it, it's fun.

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/09/21/just-a-reminder-peggy-noonan-endorsed-obama-in-2008-2/

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I asked for examples of "McCain trashing" to support it a charge of "McCain trashing."  I said it was hyperbole.  I never said Noonan didn't support Obama in 2008.  Back then I disagreed with Noonan. 
Today she trashes Obama and conservatives don't seem to like that.

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If your keen insight, your non GOP bashing, superior perspective ...

about time I got some respect around here. ^-^

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...tells you Noonan had and has no effect whatsoever, why bother commenting? If you're correct, then trashing or praising her has the same overall result, no effect. So, interestingly, your defense of Noonan goes against your observation.

Yeah, this looks bad.  I'm not sure how to twist that around so I'll give you +1 for finding the flaw in my arguement and stumping me at least temporarily. :thud:  I'll have to think on that.

Thanx for your reply. 

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With all due respect, a lot of people who are generally not inclined to favor democrats/liberals gave Obastard a second look back in 2008 because - particularly given his 2004 convention speech - he seemed at first glance to be a breath of fresh air: a democrat who had outgrown the stupidities of the political generation before him and ready to deal on a pragmatic, post-racial, basis with all comers.  I would count myself in that class of people.

That appearance proved to be an illusion however, and he quickly lost what support he had gained from folks to the right of center once it became apparent that he was merely new wine in old bottles.  Thankfully, I also count myself in this class of people as well.
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