Rand Paul: Every cell phone likely tracked

[mystery-ak]

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=CB4CFBB1-F5CF-4645-A3E6-B446782AADB3

 Rand Paul: Every cell phone likely tracked
By: Jose DelReal
June 13, 2013 03:10 PM EDT

Can you hear me now? Rand Paul suspects so.

The Kentucky Republican senator said Thursday afternoon that he suspects the United States government is collecting data from every cell phone in America.

“My suspicion is that every cell phone in America is having their data tracked,” Paul told reporters. “While we don’t have proof that there are other orders, I doubt that the orders have been directed to one cell phone company.”



His comments go beyond what has been confirmed since last week’s leak regarding a secret National Security Agency program that collected massive amounts of metadata from Verizon, but serve as the underlying basis for a lawsuit he intends to file against the United States government.

Paul admitted that he does not know the precise legal mechanisms that would structure the lawsuit, saying he would need “help and assistance from attorneys to explain to me whether or not or how you can have a class action lawsuit with this many people.”

He did mention, however, the possibility of joining in on the lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union.

“To me it smacks of a general warrant… A specific warrant is supposed to be a name, a person, and some thing,” Paul told POLITICO following the event, alluding to the specific items listed in the Fourth Amendment regarding searches and seizures.

General Keith Alexander, the director of the NSA, has said that the NSA only accesses the content of the data once a court order has been issued specifically articulating suspected threats to national security.

But Paul takes issue with General Alexander’s assertion that the right balance between security and privacy is struck.

“When you collect it from a billion phone calls a day, even if you say you’re going to keep the name private, the possibility for abuse is enormous,” Paul said.

[andy58-in-nh]

Nothing to worry about, say the Democrats.

It's not as though that idiot George Bush were still President.

Then, it would be positively chilling....

[DCPatriot]

Today on Rush's show, a caller who was an executive in the communications industry explained what product he had available on the market.

BEFORE your phone rings...as in caller ID...information pops up on your screen as to:

Name
Address
FICO score
Whether you're in foreclosure
how much you make
if you've contributed to any political party
your voter registration
your last few posts on Facebook and Twitter

and a whole lot more!!


And I'm dead serious.

[Oceander]

Today on Rush's show, a caller who was an executive in the communications industry explained what product he had available on the market.

BEFORE your phone rings...as in caller ID...information pops up on your screen as to:

Name
Address
FICO score
Whether you're in foreclosure
how much you make
if you've contributed to any political party
your voter registration
your last few posts on Facebook and Twitter

and a whole lot more!!


And I'm dead serious.

Is that all?  I would imagine that any publicly-available criminal records would show up as well.  If not, they could be easily added for many states; in fact, mere arrest records are often made public as well, something that I think is truly unjust given that the police often simply arrest people just to arrest them and leave it to the DA to sort things out and decide if charges should be filed or not.

[Oceander]

Also, viz. tracking cell-phones:  not only is the data content likely being tracked, the physical location of the handset is trivial to trace; using that, and the data from any particular call or data transfer and you can determine who the speaker was (the owner or someone else), who they were communicating with, and where they were located.

Speaking of which, I've always wondered how Google maps gets its traffic data - i.e., data showing which roads have a lot of traffic and which do not - and just recently I began to wonder if it wasn't using data from cellphones in which for any cell-phone that was located within the roadbed, the movement of that cellphone could be measured and that data used to infer how quickly, or slowly, the traffic on that road was moving at the location of the cellphone.

[DCPatriot]

Also, viz. tracking cell-phones:  not only is the data content likely being tracked, the physical location of the handset is trivial to trace; using that, and the data from any particular call or data transfer and you can determine who the speaker was (the owner or someone else), who they were communicating with, and where they were located.

Speaking of which, I've always wondered how Google maps gets its traffic data - i.e., data showing which roads have a lot of traffic and which do not - and just recently I began to wonder if it wasn't using data from cellphones in which for any cell-phone that was located within the roadbed, the movement of that cellphone could be measured and that data used to infer how quickly, or slowly, the traffic on that road was moving at the location of the cellphone.

Most excellent theory, OC!   

[Rapunzel]

BEFORE your phone rings...as in caller ID...information pops up on your screen as to:

On whose screen???? 

[DCPatriot]

On whose screen????

Let's say Rush purchased the application...so it's he that's going to know who's on the other end of the line whenever he gets an incoming call.

Obviously it's good for sales....but it's an even better application for law enforcement and court systems in influencing their decisions on outcomes.

Sure...they tout the "G-rated", vanilla benefits...in assisting in target marketing.

For example, they'll say that political action committees would immediately have access to a dozen or so FRIENDS and/or associates of the caller....who have all donated to the same political party.

Now...you could use that information for good....and for bad.

Right now we have an administration that has willfully targeted Conservative Christians through the DOJ, and the IRS.

....so my conscience tells me it's for something VERY bad.

[DCPatriot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TuET0kpHoyM

[DCPatriot]

The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)

    By James Bamford
    03.15.12






The spring air in the small, sand-dusted town has a soft haze to it, and clumps of green-gray sagebrush rustle in the breeze. Bluffdale sits in a bowl-shaped valley in the shadow of Utah’s Wasatch Range to the east and the Oquirrh Mountains to the west. It’s the heart of Mormon country, where religious pioneers first arrived more than 160 years ago. They came to escape the rest of the world, to understand the mysterious words sent down from their god as revealed on buried golden plates, and to practice what has become known as “the principle,” marriage to multiple wives.
Magazine2004

Today Bluffdale is home to one of the nation’s largest sects of polygamists, the Apostolic United Brethren, with upwards of 9,000 members. The brethren’s complex includes a chapel, a school, a sports field, and an archive. Membership has doubled since 1978—and the number of plural marriages has tripled—so the sect has recently been looking for ways to purchase more land and expand throughout the town.

But new pioneers have quietly begun moving into the area, secretive outsiders who say little and keep to themselves. Like the pious polygamists, they are focused on deciphering cryptic messages that only they have the power to understand. Just off Beef Hollow Road, less than a mile from brethren headquarters, thousands of hard-hatted construction workers in sweat-soaked T-shirts are laying the groundwork for the newcomers’ own temple and archive, a massive complex so large that it necessitated expanding the town’s boundaries. Once built, it will be more than five times the size of the US Capitol.


more at:    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

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Further proof, IMO, that Snowden is NOT a traitor...but a National Hero!

It's the responsibility of our elected House of Representatives to safeguard the Peoples' inalienable rights protected under the document that they have sworn an oath to protect.

Going back to 1770's Colonial America....it was the King's Army, breaking into homes without warrants or just cause....other than they wanted a roof over their heads for the day/night/week/month.

This one act was one of the MAIN reasons the Colonists initiated the War of Independence.   For a person to be able to be safe and secure in their own homes and their possessions.
   

[Fishrrman]

The Fourth Amendment isn't "enough" any more.
Americans need more protection.
The following proposal not only defines "inalienable rights", but also "enumerates" the limits of government:
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Citizens protected by this Constitution possess an inalienable right to privacy in their persons, business, and homes, and while they are in public.

It shall be a violation of this Constitution for the United States or for the several States to violate or invade the individual privacy of citizens by use of physical, mechanical, or electronic means or devices on land, on water, below ground, or from the air.

This protection shall extend to all lawful acts or communications by an individual citizen or between two or more citizens, including content that is spoken, written, or electronically transmitted. It shall extend to citizens regardless of their location, whether in private or in public.

The only exceptions will be as governed by the Fourth Amendment of this Constitution.