Author Topic: 'I listened to Marilyn die': Private eye who bugged Monroe's house reveals details of her final hours in his diary  (Read 563 times)

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Offline Cincinnatus

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I am on a conspiracy role today. Here's the latest on Marilyn.

Files shedding new light on Marilyn Monroe's last night alive and her relationships with President John F Kennedy and his younger brother Bobby have emerged 51 years after her death.

Documents belonging to the late Fred Otash, one of Hollywood's most notorious private detectives, were uncovered by his daughter Colleen after being found in a suburban storage unit.

According to Otash, who died in 1992, Monroe had a sexual relationship with the brothers and complained about being 'passed around like a piece of meat'.

Otash, who had installed bugging devices in her Los Angeles home, has long been derided by Kennedy admirers for his claims to have listened to a tape of Monroe and JFK in bed together.

But the notes published by The Hollywood Reporter magazine last week contained a detailed account of his bugging activities and what he heard.

Shortly before his death, he told an interviewer: 'They were having a sexual relationship ... but I don't want to get into the moans and groans.'

And in his notes, Otash claimed: 'I listened to Marilyn Monroe die.'

He recorded that on August 5 1962, she had a violent argument with the Kennedys and that she felt that she had been 'passed around like a piece of meat'.

The notes read: 'She was really screaming and they were trying to quiet her down.

'She's in the bedroom and Bobby gets the pillow and he muffles her on the bed to keep the neighbors from hearing. She finally quieted down and then he was looking to get out of there.'

Otash only found out she had died later on...

Otash died in 1992 having been used as the inspiration for the shady PI played by Jack Nicholson in the Oscar-winning 1974 film Chinatown.

James Ellroy, the crime novelist and author of LA Confidential, who met Otash several times, turned his career into a novel, Shakedown, published online and is now writing the script for a television version.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, it was the negative portrayal of Otash in Ellroy's book that persuaded Colleen to search through her father's old records and make some of them public.

'I was very aggrieved,' she said. '[I thought]: what can we do to stop [Ellroy] from taking my father's life and turning it into just a horrible fictional depiction?'

The Otash notes published so far do not reveal what, if anything, the detective discovered when he searched Monroe's house and the tapes of the Hollywood star's alleged encounters with the Kennedys have never surfaced.

A red filing cabinet that contained Otash's most sensitive material was removed from his apartment by his lawyer after he collapsed from an apparent heart attack. Its contents were never seen again.


So...did the Kennedy's have Marilyn offed to guarantee her silence? "Bobby gets the pillow and he muffles her on the bed..." Did he go too far and his government minions covered it up?

I love this stuff.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2338425/Marilyn-Monroe-death-Confession-inside-diary-Hollywoods-famous-private-detective-Fred-Otash.html

Have you noticed that both the thread on Elizabeth I and Marilyn originated with the Daily Mail? What would I do without the British press?  :laugh:



« Last Edit: June 10, 2013, 08:54:58 PM by Cincinnatus »
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Offline Rapunzel

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Otash is dead, the records were in storage, what is to make anyone think at this late date it is made up and why get rid of his records so quickly? 

I have always believed she was murdered and the Kennedy family (Peter Lawford) was involved.

Offline Rapunzel

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I'm sure you know much more about this case than i do, Rap...I guess I just distrust when things suddenly appear after all these years...MUD

I remember her death like yesterday.  Also read all the Kennedy books.  When it comes to their family we always have known it would not come out for 50 years or so, but the details of her death have never, ever, fit the coroners report.

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Oliver Stone is a jerk......  he made that movie out of whole cloth,


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