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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 09:51:35 AM »
Pretty accurate summary of our laws.

Welcome to the nanny state.

I will say one thing, from the footage coming out and a few things from people who happened to be there at the time.

No one ran. They actually walled in the attackers. Kinda proud of my townsmates for that.
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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 10:22:50 AM »
It took three planes to go down before the passengers on the fourth took out the hijackers.  A significant majority of them from NJ.
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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2013, 02:15:18 PM »
In many parts of the US, they would have been shot dead before they could land a second blow.
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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2013, 02:18:16 PM »
I hate second guessing and I understand they have no arms to defend themselves but by gawd they could have thrown rocks or shoes at them...anything for crying out loud!

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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2013, 02:22:12 PM »
I hate second guessing and I understand they have no arms to defend themselves but by gawd they could have thrown rocks or shoes at them...anything for crying out loud!

Four words:  Kitty Genovese - Bystander Effect

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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2013, 02:40:32 PM »
In many parts of the US, they would have been shot dead before they could land a second blow.
And I believe many Americans would rush, tackle, risk themselves with their bare hands, too. I believe I would.

Maybe a Brit too, especially if he was carrying his cricket bat on his way to/from the cricket pitch.

Maybe some football hooligans, too, especially after a few pints.

Western civilized nations should be holding a conference, about what to do about muslim violence. Throw out all non-citizens, revoke citizenship, quarantine, take away govt. benefits, anything/everything should be on the table to send messages: Not Welcome Here Anylonger, to Do That
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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2013, 02:43:44 PM »
In the meantime formerly peaceful Sweden burned again last night and it spread out of the capital.

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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2013, 02:47:56 PM »
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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2013, 03:07:37 PM »
It took three planes to go down before the passengers on the fourth took out the hijackers.  A significant majority of them from NJ.

The fourth plane passengers realized after receiving calls that three had been deliberately crashed--therefore they took action to keep the plane away from DC.  Before 9/11, no one imagined these scenarios.

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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2013, 03:59:43 PM »
The Brits, ever true to Liberal ideology, move swiftly to deal with this act of violence.

The murder of soldier Lee Rigby has provoked a backlash of anger across the UK, including the attacking of mosques, racial abuse and comments made on social media.

Eleven people have been arrested around Britain for making 'racist or anti-religious' comments on Twitter following the brutal killing in Woolwich on Wednesday.

The incident has also prompted a huge increase in anti-Muslim incidents, according to the organisation Faith Matters, which works to reduce extremism...

It comes as 22-year-old man appeared before magistrates in Lincoln today charged with posting a 'grossly offensive' anti-Muslim message on Facebook following the Woolwich murder.

Benjamin Flatters, of Swineshead, Lincs, faces a charge under the 1988 Malicious Communications Act following a message he posted on Facebook on 22 May which is alleged to be offensive to Muslims.

No details of the message were given at the hearing but another man was warned about his conduct on social media.


My guess is this guy Flatters will get more time than will the 2 Muslims who killed that soldier.

But the story doesn't end there:

His court appearance came within 24 hours of Lincolnshire Police warning users of social networking sites such as Facebook that they face arrest if posts were likely to incite racial hatred or violence.

A force spokesman said 'We have received a number of reports from local members of the public about tweets and Facebook comments that could potentially incite racial hatred and violence...

'We would urge people to consider the very real impact of their online comments in relation to this matter.'

Flatters court appearance comes after two men were arrested and released on bail for making alleged offensive comments on Twitter about the murder of Lee Rigby.

Complaints were made to Avon and Somerset Police about remarks that appeared on the social networking website, which were allegedly of a racist or anti-religious nature.

A 23-year-old and a 22-year-old, both from Bristol, were held under the Public Order Act on suspicion of inciting racial or religious hatred.


Fug it. That's enough about the English.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330809/Lee-Rigby-death-11-people-UK-arrested-making-racist-anti-religious-comments-online-British-soldiers-death.html

I just want to add that I have also seen reports that the citizens of Sweden are taking measures to deal with the Muslim rioters there because the police are failing to do the job. So guess who the police are targeting for suppression? I haven't added this story yet because the one source on which I saw it was not totally reliable.

So let's see what the scorecard shows us: Muslims kill a British soldier in London; Muslims are rioting in Sweden; it appears a Muslim stabbed a police officer in France; in the US 2 Muslims set off bombs which killed and injured several persons in Boston. Meanwhile the President assures us in a major speech on terrorism that it is not global and he never mentions Muslims are responsible for most of this not global terrorism. Oh, ok, and we are as stupid as Obama thinks we are.
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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2013, 06:07:56 PM »
The fourth plane passengers realized after receiving calls that three had been deliberately crashed--therefore they took action to keep the plane away from DC.  Before 9/11, no one imagined these scenarios.

It's remarkable what "ordinary" people are able to do when their backs are against the wall.  Yes, they died.  But like men, free men.
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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2013, 09:57:39 PM »
« Last Edit: May 25, 2013, 09:58:34 PM by Fishrrman »

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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2013, 10:08:42 PM »
Shock and events that are too far outside of their (myopic) frame of reference - it literally wasn't "real" to them.  Quite likely, in this day and age of "edgy" performance artists, many of them probably thought it was just another hyper-realistic performance by a bunch of "guerrilla" actors.

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Re: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2013, 12:17:41 AM »
Time for quiet action.
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