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LOL!

I can't believe this.  Lipitor has been hailed as a very good drug to keep your arteries from clogging.  Now it's supposed to be bad for you.

....like coconut oil in popcorn being banned at movie theaters years ago...and now we find "it's good for you!"


The economy sucks and old people aren't dying fast enough to suit health insurance companies and the Social Security Administration.

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I have taken nearly every single statin on the market and all but one made be extremely ill.

Atorvastatin / Lipitor made me ill within days.  I could barely move my arms and legs hurt so bad.

Simvastatin/Zocar was fine for a few months, but then the same thing happened.

Crestor / Rosuvastatin took about two weeks to make me ill.

Fluvastatin/Lescol caused all kinds of stomach problems, and my insurance wouldn't cover it.

About the only common ones I have not tried are Lovastatin  and Mevastatin.

So far, Pravastatin hasn't made me ill, although @ times my arms and legs do still hurt but I can live with it.
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I took statins once for six months and ended up with pain in my hips so bad I couldn't even sleep at night, then ended with horrid body pain...... I stopped the statins because they have a reputation of causing joint pain and within a month was back to normal and pain-free, I now take plant sterols (recommended by Dr. Oz) to control my cholesterol... they work just fine and no pain.

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LOL!

I can't believe this.  Lipitor has been hailed as a very good drug to keep your arteries from clogging.  Now it's supposed to be bad for you.

....like coconut oil in popcorn being banned at movie theaters years ago...and now we find "it's good for you!"


The economy sucks and old people aren't dying fast enough to suit health insurance companies and the Social Security Administration.

2 + 2 - 4.

BTW DC Swanson's Vitamins (online) has the best price on Coconut oil.......

Offline Rapunzel

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and.. BTW ..... scientitists are finding C-reactive protein (CRP) may be a better predictor of  heart attack risk than lipids.  There is also a relationship between too-low lipids and depression. 

BTW for a while we used to purchase Fish Oil at Costco... taking it my husbands lipids dropped to 69 (yes SIXTY NINE), he actually had to start eating eggs for breakfast every morning while he worked to get his cholesterol up to a more normal range.    Later I read that for some reason the Costco fish oil is (or was)  so "rich" that you do have to watch it doesn't over-correct your cholesterol levels.

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and.. BTW ..... scientitists are finding C-reactive protein (CRP) may be a better predictor of  heart attack risk than lipids.  There is also a relationship between too-low lipids and depression. 

BTW for a while we used to purchase Fish Oil at Costco... taking it my husbands lipids dropped to 69 (yes SIXTY NINE), he actually had to start eating eggs for breakfast every morning while he worked to get his cholesterol up to a more normal range.    Later I read that for some reason the Costco fish oil is (or was)  so "rich" that you do have to watch it doesn't over-correct your cholesterol levels.

Thanks for the info on the fish oil.....was going to COSTCO tomorrow morning and will definitely pick some up.
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I have been taking Simvastatin (20mg/day) for several years.  I've been having some hip pains recently and had not connected that to my Simvastatin regimen.  So, thanks, Rap, for making that connection.  I will definitely look into it.  Before I started taking Simvastatin I was self-medicating with red yeast rice, which is the organic compound from which the statin drugs are derived.  Maybe I will just go back to that, along with fish oil and niacin.

As for the diabetes risk, a lot of the same factors that would cause someone to take statin drugs would also lead to diabetes, so I am skeptical that the statin drugs led to increased diabetes risk.  It seems more likely that there were other common variables involved.  People with high cholesterol are also more likely to have many of the risk factors for diabetes.  I am certain the researchers controlled for a lot of that, but the multicollinearity between heart disease and diabetes is so high, it seems to me that the researchers could easily miss a variable that would account for something as small as a 10-20 percent increased risk factor.

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Seconding the fish oil - it works amazingly well. Got a HDLP level of 72, and I cook with butter mostly.

I prefer salmon oil. Easier to digest.
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Krill oil is excellent source of Omega 3'  One reason for so many of these health issues is our diets are too high in Omega 6 and too low in Omega3'  One reason for this is beef, pork, chickens and even farm raised fish are fed a corn-based diet while in nature the consumed foods that increased their Omega3 levels... corn increases Omega 6'   anyone who takes a statin must take coq10 with it.  Both should be taken at bedtime because the liver does its work in the body at night while we are sleeping..the less time you spend sleeping at night the less time your liver has to rejuvenate.

And one last thing.. mass is right.  I work for a doctor and just about every DM2 patient we have and has high cholesterol, many have kidney issues, high blood pressure and joint pains and are on a plethora of medications.  Oh and are either obese or even morbidly obese.


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