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Google and Verizon Gave Government Reporters' Records
« on: May 20, 2013, 08:45:46 PM »

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Re: Google and Verizon Gave Government Reporters' Records
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2013, 08:49:55 PM »
The problem I have with the line of this story is if these companies were issued subpoenas, they would have no choice but to turn over the records.

These companies shouldn't be the story (unless they gave it without a subpoena). Who signed the subpoenas?

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Re: Google and Verizon Gave Government Reporters' Records
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2013, 10:24:18 PM »
The problem I have with the line of this story is if these companies were issued subpoenas, they would have no choice but to turn over the records.

These companies shouldn't be the story (unless they gave it without a subpoena). Who signed the subpoenas?

Judge Napolitano discussed this at length on the noon-hour Shep Smith Studio B.. he said under the rulings from the Supreme Court these subpoena's have to be issued under a very narrow criteria and he suspects justice lied to get them... and was why in their subpoena they said it was a "criminal" matter - because that is the ONLY way it could have been issued.

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Re: Google and Verizon Gave Government Reporters' Records
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2013, 10:26:37 PM »
Judge Napolitano discussed this at length on the noon-hour Shep Smith Studio B.. he said under the rulings from the Supreme Court these subpoena's have to be issued under a very narrow criteria and he suspects justice lied to get them... and was why in their subpoena they said it was a "criminal" matter - because that is the ONLY way it could have been issued.

Which basically confirms that Google and Verizon had no choice but to comply and they couldn't even question it.

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Re: Google and Verizon Gave Government Reporters' Records
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2013, 10:29:21 PM »
Which basically confirms that Google and Verizon had no choice but to comply and they couldn't even question it.

Exactly.  If the government had not lied they would not have received permission in the first place, and this is what has Fox News all upset, because the way the law is written they should have been notified and able to go before the judge to argue to quash the subpoena or at the very least limit the scope - the government knew this so they lied to keep the Fox lawyers out of it.

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Re: Google and Verizon Gave Government Reporters' Records
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2013, 10:32:16 PM »
Someone up top probably wants the people's anger directed at these companies instead of the administration. Distraction.

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Re: Google and Verizon Gave Government Reporters' Records
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2013, 10:35:31 PM »
yep.   ... it isn't the carrot dangling in front of your eyes to worry about .. it is the carrot they are trying to keep buried.


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