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Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
« Reply #225 on: November 24, 2017, 09:51:39 pm »

Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
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Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 3:54 AM

 

A pastor defended embattled Senate candidate Roy Moore, saying the controversial judge, who is accused of pursuing teenage girls as young as 14, was seeking the “purity of a young woman.”

Pastor Flip Benham told radio hosts Matt Murphy and Andrea Lindenberg on the "Matt and Aunie" show that Moore’s service in Vietnam left him pressed for choice when he returned and pursued a law degree.

“All of the ladies, or many of the ladies that he possibly could have married, were not available then, they were already married, maybe, somewhere,” Benham said.


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« Reply #226 on: November 26, 2017, 04:14:06 am »
Better be careful what you're saying around here... Folks might think you're confessing to stepping out with the woman.
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Written intentionally so they could step out there if they are so inclined.

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I wonder if Moore tried looking for these pure girls elsewhere. Like, say...CHURCH?
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« Reply #227 on: November 26, 2017, 05:07:09 am »
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Re: Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
« Reply #232 on: November 26, 2017, 09:04:09 pm »
There was a long, long thread on this subject that seems to have entirely disappeared.

I would just like to add to THIS one............. I wonder if the pastor was concerned for the young women's wanting Moore to be "pure," or if this particular pastor, like too many others, thinks that purity is a one way street.

OK for a man to want it in a woman, but who cares if the man is, himself, pure?  (Boys will be boys, and all that tommyrot).

There have been posters here who have plaintively called for seeking out young virgins without regard for whether the one doing the seeking (i.e. Moore) is merely an impure man wanting to deflower a virgin on their wedding night.

At any rate, musing aside, this pastor has done more to damn Moore than to praise him.......
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Re: Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
« Reply #233 on: November 26, 2017, 09:53:53 pm »
There was a long, long thread on this subject that seems to have entirely disappeared.

I would just like to add to THIS one............. I wonder if the pastor was concerned for the young women's wanting Moore to be "pure," or if this particular pastor, like too many others, thinks that purity is a one way street.

OK for a man to want it in a woman, but who cares if the man is, himself, pure?  (Boys will be boys, and all that tommyrot).



Putting aside the "deflower" a virgin nonsense....  *****rollingeyes*****

God made Man and Woman. Two different beings. We are different..with God placed ..or evoulution if you are godless, ingrained proclivities. So yes.. what one sex is ok..not so much in the other. Unless me and my Bro's get to go nuts once a week every month. ;)

I also note...God did not impregnate a 88 year old virgin.  Something 'Bout being made in a certain image.

Also Mods, seems I got nested into the quoted post.
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Re: Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
« Reply #234 on: November 26, 2017, 09:56:12 pm »
Does this pastor even know Moore from his younger days, or is he just musing? I see no specifics, recounting no events or memories. This isn't much more than vague commentary if not outright speculation.
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Re: Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
« Reply #235 on: November 26, 2017, 09:58:33 pm »


That's exactly what I posted here from the beginning...
traditional Christian Moore wanted to marry a virgin.

It  has only been in the last 60 years of cultural marxism
run amok that young women are encouraged to abandon
marriage and children... and become degenerate whores.




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« Reply #236 on: November 26, 2017, 10:02:45 pm »
There was a long, long thread on this subject that seems to have entirely disappeared.

I would just like to add to THIS one............. I wonder if the pastor was concerned for the young women's wanting Moore to be "pure," or if this particular pastor, like too many others, thinks that purity is a one way street.

OK for a man to want it in a woman, but who cares if the man is, himself, pure?  (Boys will be boys, and all that tommyrot).

There have been posters here who have plaintively called for seeking out young virgins without regard for whether the one doing the seeking (i.e. Moore) is merely an impure man wanting to deflower a virgin on their wedding night.

At any rate, musing aside, this pastor has done more to damn Moore than to praise him.......

Where exactly is the proof that Moore was not pure?
When he was in the army, he left a bordello when he was brought there without his knowledge... According to an army buddy. That doesn't sound like a party dawg type.

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« Reply #237 on: November 26, 2017, 10:05:34 pm »

Putting aside the "deflower" a virgin nonsense....  *****rollingeyes*****


Oh, no... Lets not. I'd like to see some proof somewhere that he actually DID deflower a virgin. Or even partake of the nectar of any already deflowered for that matter. Has anyone come forward who actually got laid? Because I haven't seen it.

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« Reply #238 on: November 26, 2017, 10:10:21 pm »
   The Mods put a 'reset' on that one, it's all a conspiracy.

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Re: Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
« Reply #239 on: November 26, 2017, 10:11:17 pm »
Where exactly is the proof that Moore was not pure?
When he was in the army, he left a bordello when he was brought there without his knowledge... According to an army buddy. That doesn't sound like a party dawg type.

Right, by all accounts ...but for two very dis-reputable ones. Moore was the pentagon of a gentleman.

Seeking a traditional marriage with a young woman who could bear many children...four in this case. Nothing wrong with that.  What 34 marrying a 22-24 year old?
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« Reply #240 on: November 26, 2017, 10:17:37 pm »
Oh, no... Lets not. I'd like to see some proof somewhere that he actually DID deflower a virgin. Or even partake of the nectar of any already deflowered for that matter. Has anyone come forward who actually got laid? Because I haven't seen it.

I was discounting @musiclady slander.

But yes, the actual proof from young lady's almost old enough..and in some cases old enough to join the military and die in a foreign country...by todays morals ... is that Moore was an upstanding gentleman...very Christian.

No sex... hardy the 'Virgin" popper some seem to wish.

In fact... was his wife a virgin at 22-24? Maybe that fact would put the lie... Not that it is anybody's bussiness.
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Re: Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
« Reply #241 on: November 26, 2017, 10:20:09 pm »
Where exactly is the proof that Moore was not pure?
When he was in the army, he left a bordello when he was brought there without his knowledge... According to an army buddy. That doesn't sound like a party dawg type.

Once again, you are asking a question based on your feelings and not what I said.

I asked if the pastor was at all concerned about Moore's purity, or if he, like many others, believes that women should be pure and not men.

It's a legit question whether you like it or not.

I'm a 68 year old woman who's been a Christian since I was 7 and in the church since I was born.  I read a lot and I listen a lot, and the concern for women's purity with a complete disregard for men's has prevailed for many years.

All I am saying is that it is just as legitimate for a woman to expect purity from a man, and Biblically, there is no difference in the moral expectation for a Christian.

And if the pastor is saying it's OK for Moore to troll teenagers because he wants "purity" it is a completely legitimate question to expect that he, himself, is pure.
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Re: Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
« Reply #242 on: November 26, 2017, 10:25:15 pm »
Oh, no... Lets not. I'd like to see some proof somewhere that he actually DID deflower a virgin. Or even partake of the nectar of any already deflowered for that matter. Has anyone come forward who actually got laid? Because I haven't seen it.

The question is theoretical and legitimate.  No "proof" is expected that Moore has the same standards applied to his behavior as to the teenagers he "courted."

It is common practice among (some) men to expect virginity in women and not in themselves, and if you don't realize there is a huge double standard, even among Christians, then your head has been buried in the sand.

But my position on what this pastor said is that he is WAY out of line in what he is saying in "defense" of Moore, because it just furthers the double standard without addressing the lack of equality in moral expectations.
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« Reply #243 on: November 26, 2017, 10:26:20 pm »

Putting aside the "deflower" a virgin nonsense....  *****rollingeyes*****

God made Man and Woman. Two different beings. We are different..with God placed ..or evoulution if you are godless, ingrained proclivities. So yes.. what one sex is ok..not so much in the other. Unless me and my Bro's get to go nuts once a week every month. ;)

I also note...God did not impregnate a 88 year old virgin.  Something 'Bout being made in a certain image.

Also Mods, seems I got nested into the quoted post.

Thank you for illustrating my point.

Double standard of morality.  Expectations for purity for women and not men.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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« Reply #244 on: November 26, 2017, 10:31:26 pm »
Thank you for illustrating my point.

Double standard of morality.  Expectations for purity for women and not men.

Thank God, or millions of years of evolution ...as is your preference.  We are different beings, mis-anderism aside.... there are different standards.
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Re: Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
« Reply #245 on: November 26, 2017, 10:32:41 pm »
There was a long, long thread on this subject that seems to have entirely disappeared.

I would just like to add to THIS one............. I wonder if the pastor was concerned for the young women's wanting Moore to be "pure," or if this particular pastor, like too many others, thinks that purity is a one way street.

OK for a man to want it in a woman, but who cares if the man is, himself, pure?  (Boys will be boys, and all that tommyrot).

There have been posters here who have plaintively called for seeking out young virgins without regard for whether the one doing the seeking (i.e. Moore) is merely an impure man wanting to deflower a virgin on their wedding night.

At any rate, musing aside, this pastor has done more to damn Moore than to praise him.......

I can't help but think of the Mormons being promised young girls.  Or in Africa the witch doctors promise that if they have sex with virgins they will cure their AIDS and sexual diseases.

This just is so wrong.  Looks as if Pastor believes this is OK.  Making excuses?  Lies that there were no women available to date.

Wrong, wrong, wrong on all counts.
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Re: Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
« Reply #246 on: November 26, 2017, 10:33:50 pm »
Once again, you are asking a question based on your feelings and not what I said.

I asked if the pastor was at all concerned about Moore's purity, or if he, like many others, believes that women should be pure and not men.

It's a legit question whether you like it or not.


Alright, but it is academic in the context of the preacher's comments - He was simply responding to the accusation with the supposition that Moore was looking for a virgin bride - A comment quite in line with his old fashioned courting... That the preacher did not mention the state of Moore's virginity is quite beside the point, and I don't know why you feel slighted that it wasn't included in a straightforward answer to the allegation.

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I'm a 68 year old woman who's been a Christian since I was 7 and in the church since I was born.  I read a lot and I listen a lot, and the concern for women's purity with a complete disregard for men's has prevailed for many years.

All I am saying is that it is just as legitimate for a woman to expect purity from a man, and Biblically, there is no difference in the moral expectation for a Christian.

I am in utter agreement with your statement - My own path has shown me why a better way is required. But that does not answer why you are so adamant that this particular preacher did not, at that particular time, go off on a statement with that in regard.

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And if the pastor is saying it's OK for Moore to troll teenagers because he wants "purity" it is a completely legitimate question to expect that he, himself, is pure.

And it is a question I have posed myself, in the positive. There are no records, nor any stories, nor even rumors of Moore's participation in any sort of actual sexual relationship. Judging by my own path, if he were a rowdy, those stories would be there. Not to mention if he were a pervert.

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Re: Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
« Reply #247 on: November 26, 2017, 10:34:42 pm »
I can't help but think of the Mormons being promised young girls.  Or in Africa the witch doctors promise that if they have sex with virgins they will cure their AIDS and sexual diseases.

This just is so wrong.  Looks as if Pastor believes this is OK.  Making excuses?  Lies that there were no women available to date.

Wrong, wrong, wrong on all counts.

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Re: Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'
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« Reply #249 on: November 26, 2017, 10:45:35 pm »
Where exactly is the proof that Moore was not pure?
When he was in the army, he left a bordello when he was brought there without his knowledge... According to an army buddy. That doesn't sound like a party dawg type.

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Considering that people who worked with him said he didn't have a social life except for hanging around the mall, I'd say that a woman his own age, even a hooker, was something he couldn't handle for whatever reason.