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Title: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: mystery-ak on February 12, 2020, 10:04:29 PM
Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
By J. Edward Moreno - 02/12/20 09:02 PM EST

A new poll shows a tight race between Republicans seeking to unseat Sen. Doug Jones (D-Alabama).
 
The poll from Mason-Dixon Polling and Strategy published in the Alabama Daily News shows former Attorney General Jeff Sessions at 31 percent followed by former Auburn football coach Tommy Tuberville at 29 percent and Congressman Bradley Byrne at 17 percent. Former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who Jones beat in 2018, polled at 5 percent.

“Sessions is facing a much tougher fight to win the Republican nomination than most political insiders likely anticipated,” Brad Coker of Mason-Dixon Polling and Strategy told the Daily News.
The poll also showed Jones trailing Sessions, Tuberville and Byrne in hypothetical head-to-head matchups.
 

In the hypothetical general election matchups, Sessions beats Jones by 13 percentage points, while Tuberville and Byrne outpace Jones by 8 and 9 percent, respectively.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482870-sessions-in-close-race-for-alabama-gop-senate-nomination-poll
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Mesaclone on February 12, 2020, 10:18:06 PM
Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
By J. Edward Moreno - 02/12/20 09:02 PM EST

A new poll shows a tight race between Republicans seeking to unseat Sen. Doug Jones (D-Alabama).
 
The poll from Mason-Dixon Polling and Strategy published in the Alabama Daily News shows former Attorney General Jeff Sessions at 31 percent followed by former Auburn football coach Tommy Tuberville at 29 percent and Congressman Bradley Byrne at 17 percent. Former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who Jones beat in 2018, polled at 5 percent.

“Sessions is facing a much tougher fight to win the Republican nomination than most political insiders likely anticipated,” Brad Coker of Mason-Dixon Polling and Strategy told the Daily News.
The poll also showed Jones trailing Sessions, Tuberville and Byrne in hypothetical head-to-head matchups.
 

In the hypothetical general election matchups, Sessions beats Jones by 13 percentage points, while Tuberville and Byrne outpace Jones by 8 and 9 percent, respectively.

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482870-sessions-in-close-race-for-alabama-gop-senate-nomination-poll

Thank goodness Moore is at 5%....Alabamans have finally woken up to that monumental, and creepy, mistake.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Chosen Daughter on February 12, 2020, 10:22:04 PM
Is Trump supporting him?
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 12, 2020, 10:32:26 PM
Is Trump supporting him?

Google it.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 12, 2020, 10:33:09 PM
Thank goodness Moore is at 5%....Alabamans have finally woken up to that monumental, and creepy, mistake.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Sighlass on February 12, 2020, 11:28:17 PM
Alabama Daily News seems to be a one person run website ran by Todd C. Stacy who used to work for various conservatives as a communication director. The poller, Mason-Dixon Polling and Research is a fellow named Brad Coker which does some shotty polling, but if you are looking for results you want, seems to be your go to guy.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/tampa-bay-timesbay-news-9-poll-i-4-voters-back-romney-51-45/1258459/ (https://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/tampa-bay-timesbay-news-9-poll-i-4-voters-back-romney-51-45/1258459/)
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Sighlass on February 12, 2020, 11:44:53 PM
Thank goodness Moore is at 5%....Alabamans have finally woken up to that monumental, and creepy, mistake.

Nancy would be proud of you (wrap up smear). Name one position of Moore's that isn't the most conservative Constitutional correct one in the field. Name one so-called "creepy" thing that is backed by actual proof of it happening? I don't carry water for the enemy if I can help it.

Pick a topic... Red Flag Laws... Abortion ... Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)... Drugs .... Federal seizures ...  10th Amendment ... Illegal Immigration .... and post your Alabama candidate's position.

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMBeUORJWj4#)
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: txradioguy on February 13, 2020, 12:09:15 AM
Nancy would be proud of you (wrap up smear). Name one position of Moore's that isn't the most conservative Constitutional correct one in the field. Name one so-called "creepy" thing that is backed by actual proof of it happening? I don't carry water for the enemy if I can help it.

Pick a topic... Red Flag Laws... Abortion ... Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)... Drugs .... Federal seizures ...  10th Amendment ... Illegal Immigration .... and post your Alabama candidate's position.

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMBeUORJWj4#)

Really kind of sad that people still fall for the smears that were started by former Obama operatives that turned out to be entirely false.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Sighlass on February 13, 2020, 12:22:21 AM
Google it.
Is Trump supporting him?

Is Trump supporting Sessions... No... neither he or his son... and both have jabbed at Sessions with pointed sticks but seem to be shutting up lately cause Sessions is still liked in state... all the candidates seem to have their lips securely attached with superglue to Trump's bottom (even Moore for the most part has not said anything against him). Tubberville has no record to run on, and seems to just make up his position out of thin air (he is for the 2nd Amendment, cause he likes to hunt is the same thing Doug Jones said)... When pressed on issues Tubberville seems like too little butter spread over to much toast. He seems out of his league when he goes negative, cause it is not his nature, but polling I guess suggested he go that route and it seems to have backfired. He is very likeable when not acting as a politician.

Bradley Byrne is the good ole RINO in the group, he will fit in nicely as a do nothing in congress that plays golf with the rest of the do nothings. Probable he and @Right_in_Virginia would be in good company. His strength seems to center more in the southern half of the state where he has deep roots.

Jeff Sessions is a good 80-85% conservative. For the most part he is a nice fellow that takes a hit and doesn't punch back without prudence to think things over. He can play the game well with various factions (something that he does have over Roy Moore)... It would be interesting to see if he was elected if he would poke back at Trump in some manner since he was unfairly mocked and remocked.

Roy Moore is just the 97% Conservative Christian that gets hated upon. He doesn't bend and doesn't mince words. He shares one quality with Sessions, he takes his time to respond (thinking over his options but in relation to constitutional standings). Not a quick witty retorter for the most part, just dead serious in his mission. I liked that he does take time to talk to folks honestly like he did me at several Tea Party meetings. What you see is what you get... His jokes are slow in delivery, but he has a sense of humor if allowed time to tell it.

I have talked to all the candidates listed except Bradley Burne. I may of missed him at the local GOP breakfast meeting (not sure to be honest).

Roy Moore on Red Flag laws that I took time to record the other week... tell me another candidate that nails the issue down more solidly (unconstitutionality) than Moore...

Roy Moore Red Flag laws.mp3
https://mab.to/4OVEiqevG

3 Days Only

Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 13, 2020, 10:17:07 AM
Did Sessions announce his candidacy?  If not, this seems like wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on February 13, 2020, 10:27:22 AM
Sessions is 73 years old.

We need new blood in Congressm and Sessions ain't it.

Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on February 13, 2020, 10:29:07 AM
Nancy would be proud of you (wrap up smear). Name one position of Moore's that isn't the most conservative Constitutional correct one in the field. Name one so-called "creepy" thing that is backed by actual proof of it happening? I don't carry water for the enemy if I can help it.

Pick a topic... Red Flag Laws... Abortion ... Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)... Drugs .... Federal seizures ...  10th Amendment ... Illegal Immigration .... and post your Alabama candidate's position.

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMBeUORJWj4#)
It is why the MSM still exists.

Some people are gullible enough to believe the lies.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Bigun on February 13, 2020, 11:18:01 AM
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the bastards!

--Claire Wolfe
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 13, 2020, 11:25:19 AM
Thank goodness Moore is at 5%....Alabamans have finally woken up to that monumental, and creepy, mistake.
Yeah, the rats will just have to accuse someone else of doing something forty years ago at the last minute.

(So it can be debunked like the BS Moore was blindsided with).
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 13, 2020, 01:28:50 PM

Roy Moore is just the 97% Conservative Christian that gets hated upon. He doesn't bend and doesn't mince words.

Moore also doesn't win @Sighlass  And I hope the good people of Alabama will take this into consideration.

Maybe, just maybe, losing the seat to a liberal was enough of an embarrassment. :crossed:
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Bigun on February 13, 2020, 01:41:37 PM
Moore also doesn't win @Sighlass  And I hope the good people of Alabama will take this into consideration.

Maybe, just maybe, losing the seat to a liberal was enough of an embarrassment. :crossed:

What I hope the good people of Alabama do is to stop listening to naysayers from outside their state and nominate the candidate they want to serve them in the U.S. Senate.  If they do that, whoever they nominate is a lock to be elected!
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 13, 2020, 01:54:25 PM
What I hope the good people of Alabama do is to stop listening to naysayers from outside their state and nominate the candidate they want to serve them in the U.S. Senate.  If they do that, whoever they nominate is a lock to be elected!

I'm just reminding the good people of Alabama that Moore was rejected three times by the voters in Alabama .. so I'm not sure your thesis works.

Love the guy, invite him to dinner ... build monuments to him, but in the name of all that is holy, move on and win back the damn seat.

Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: TomSea on February 13, 2020, 02:52:24 PM
So, Mo Brooks is not running? At least, Brooks was loyal to the party and supported Moore. Loyalty doesn't need to be blind and one does not always need to be loyal but I'd say, usually you need to be. That's just me until we have more choices in parties perhaps.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: ArneFufkin on February 13, 2020, 02:59:36 PM
Sessions was a loyal Conservative vote as a Senator and it's okay if he's returned to that seat IMO.

My only admonition to the Alabama GOP:   DON'T SCREW THIS UP AGAIN!!!

This is one of those times Trump needs to kick some butts and pick a winner.   He has that standing and prerogative.   That's a key Senate race that should be a cakewalk turn.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Sighlass on February 13, 2020, 03:05:28 PM
Moore also doesn't win @Sighlass  And I hope the good people of Alabama will take this into consideration.

Maybe, just maybe, losing the seat to a liberal was enough of an embarrassment. :crossed:

No what hurts is so-called conservatives caving to lies and even spreading them. In this process their own spreading of lies caused the defeat (by giving credence to the liberal lies) of one of the most conservative candidates in America... and they double down (as you have) to make sure they stay down. Yes you gave a big thumbs up to the "creepy" comment.

So yes, I do take in consideration that in the name of "winning" the process of nominating the best is thrown out the window. Why have steak, when you can open the can of Rino spam and place it on the swamp table.

My candidates don't care for holy monuments to themselves... perhaps that is the problem.


Quote from: Arne
My only admonition to the Alabama GOP:   DON'T SCREW THIS UP AGAIN!!!

You are right and probable don't even know it, it was the eating of their own (GOP) that caused the last loss to Doug Jones. But it wasn't just the local GOP, it went to the top.

Who was to blame for Roy's loss, some need to look in the mirror because they carried the liberal lie water for the liberals.

A GOP that does not defend good men perhaps no longer holds any sway over me.

Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Bigun on February 13, 2020, 03:15:42 PM
No what hurts is so-called conservatives caving to lies and even spreading them. In this process their own spreading of lies caused the defeat (by giving credence to the liberal lies) of one of the most conservative candidates in America... and they double down (as you have) to make sure they stay down. Yes you gave a big thumbs up to the "creepy" comment.

So yes, I do take in consideration that in the name of "winning" the process of nominating the best is thrown out the window. Why have steak, when you can open the can of Rino spam and place it on the swamp table.

My candidates don't care for holy monuments to themselves... perhaps that is the problem.


You are right and probable don't even know it, it was the eating of their own (GOP) that caused the last loss to Doug Jones. But it wasn't just the local GOP, it went to the top.

Who was to blame for Roy's loss, some need to look in the mirror because they carried the liberal lie water for the liberals.

A GOP that does not defend good men perhaps no longer holds any sway over me.

Well said @Sighlass!  Well said indeed and there is no disputing those FACTS!
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: ArneFufkin on February 13, 2020, 03:19:09 PM
No what hurts is so-called conservatives caving to lies and even spreading them. In this process their own spreading of lies caused the defeat (by giving credence to the liberal lies) of one of the most conservative candidates in America... and they double down (as you have) to make sure they stay down. Yes you gave a big thumbs up to the "creepy" comment.

So yes, I do take in consideration that in the name of "winning" the process of nominating the best is thrown out the window. Why have steak, when you can open the can of Rino spam and place it on the swamp table.

My candidates don't care for holy monuments to themselves... perhaps that is the problem.


You are right and probable don't even know it, it was the eating of their own (GOP) that caused the last loss to Doug Jones. But it wasn't just the local GOP, it went to the top.

Who was to blame for Roy's loss, some need to look in the mirror because they carried the liberal lie water for the liberals.

A GOP that does not defend good men perhaps no longer holds any sway over me.

My lingering concern, Sighlass, about Sessions is that he has never "come clean" about his decision to recuse himself from that entire Crossfire Hurricane/Spygate fraud.   We all have pasts ... good and bad ... but I'm a little concerned about whatever dirt persuaded him to make that foolish and destructive decision emerging during the 11th hour of his Senate campaign.

I don't know that much about current Alabama politics.   Is there a younger, dependable Conservative there that can win and be an ally for our priorities?
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Bigun on February 13, 2020, 03:33:04 PM
My lingering concern, Sighlass, about Sessions is that he has never "come clean" about his decision to recuse himself from that entire Crossfire Hurricane/Spygate fraud.   We all have pasts ... good and bad ... but I'm a little concerned about whatever dirt persuaded him to make that foolish and destructive decision emerging during the 11th hour of his Senate campaign.

I don't know that much about current Alabama politics.   Is there a younger, dependable Conservative there that can win and be an ally for our priorities?

Take the time to read this @ArneFufkin it lays out the process for how Sessions was maneuvered into recusing himself in detail and much more!

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/13/the-fbi-corruption-is-far-worse-than-we-currently-imagine-president-trump-authorized-his-own-surveillance/

Quote
The other attendees for the recusal decision-making meeting (see above schedule) included Sessions’ chief of staff Jody Hunt; Criminal Chief in the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Maryland, Jim Crowell; Deputy Assistant Attorney General (DAAG) in the Department of Justice National Security Division Tash Gauhar (FISA lawyer); and Associate Deputy Attorney General Scott Schools. [Note: Tash Gauhar was lawyer for FBI Clinton case; and Scott Schools was part of drafting Clinton exoneration letter.]

Boente, Crowell, Gauhar and Schools convinced AG Jeff Sessions he must recuse himself. In hindsight each of the people giving Sessions advice was connected to previously corrupt activity within Main Justice that included the Clinton and Spygate operations. Not knowing the conflict each advisor was carrying Sessions took their advice and recused himself; a big mistake.

From the above linked article.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: ArneFufkin on February 13, 2020, 03:44:12 PM
Take the time to read this @ArneFufkin it lays out the process for how Sessions was maneuvered into recusing himself in detail and much more!

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/13/the-fbi-corruption-is-far-worse-than-we-currently-imagine-president-trump-authorized-his-own-surveillance/

From the above linked article.

Thank you Bigun!   So many corrupt weasels in DC. 
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Bigun on February 13, 2020, 03:47:20 PM
Thank you Bigun!   So many corrupt weasels in DC.

MANY more than most here begin to realize!
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: ArneFufkin on February 13, 2020, 03:52:04 PM
No what hurts is so-called conservatives caving to lies and even spreading them. In this process their own spreading of lies caused the defeat (by giving credence to the liberal lies) of one of the most conservative candidates in America... and they double down (as you have) to make sure they stay down. Yes you gave a big thumbs up to the "creepy" comment.

So yes, I do take in consideration that in the name of "winning" the process of nominating the best is thrown out the window. Why have steak, when you can open the can of Rino spam and place it on the swamp table.

My candidates don't care for holy monuments to themselves... perhaps that is the problem.


You are right and probable don't even know it, it was the eating of their own (GOP) that caused the last loss to Doug Jones. But it wasn't just the local GOP, it went to the top.

Who was to blame for Roy's loss, some need to look in the mirror because they carried the liberal lie water for the liberals.

A GOP that does not defend good men perhaps no longer holds any sway over me.

Well, there's nothing that warms the cockles of my heart more than being seen as "right and probable don't even know it."

Walking around in blissful ignorance is my forte.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 13, 2020, 06:10:38 PM
No what hurts is so-called conservatives caving to lies and even spreading them. In this process their own spreading of lies caused the defeat (by giving credence to the liberal lies) of one of the most conservative candidates in America... and they double down (as you have) to make sure they stay down. Yes you gave a big thumbs up to the "creepy" comment.

So yes, I do take in consideration that in the name of "winning" the process of nominating the best is thrown out the window. Why have steak, when you can open the can of Rino spam and place it on the swamp table.

My candidates don't care for holy monuments to themselves... perhaps that is the problem.


You are right and probable don't even know it, it was the eating of their own (GOP) that caused the last loss to Doug Jones. But it wasn't just the local GOP, it went to the top.

Who was to blame for Roy's loss, some need to look in the mirror because they carried the liberal lie water for the liberals.

A GOP that does not defend good men perhaps no longer holds any sway over me.
Agreed!
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 13, 2020, 06:12:35 PM
MANY more than most here begin to realize!
Small wonder they tend toward a presumption of guilt there. So often, it seems correct.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: txradioguy on February 13, 2020, 06:27:16 PM
No what hurts is so-called conservatives caving to lies and even spreading them. In this process their own spreading of lies caused the defeat (by giving credence to the liberal lies) of one of the most conservative candidates in America... and they double down (as you have) to make sure they stay down. Yes you gave a big thumbs up to the "creepy" comment.

So yes, I do take in consideration that in the name of "winning" the process of nominating the best is thrown out the window. Why have steak, when you can open the can of Rino spam and place it on the swamp table.

My candidates don't care for holy monuments to themselves... perhaps that is the problem.


You are right and probable don't even know it, it was the eating of their own (GOP) that caused the last loss to Doug Jones. But it wasn't just the local GOP, it went to the top.

Who was to blame for Roy's loss, some need to look in the mirror because they carried the liberal lie water for the liberals.

A GOP that does not defend good men perhaps no longer holds any sway over me.

This!! ^^^^
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: corbe on February 13, 2020, 06:52:18 PM
   Roy and Mo are not Senators of AL because Cocaine Mitch hates Conservatives in his house and didn't want them to be, that it is the most important point, here.  There are just some things the Voting Citizens of a Good State just cannot overcome and he is one.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 13, 2020, 07:10:00 PM
   Roy and Mo are not Senators of AL because Cocaine Mitch hates Conservatives in his house and didn't want them to be, that it is the most important point, here.  There are just some things the Voting Citizens of a Good State just cannot overcome and he is one.

Let us hope Mittens taught Mitchie a lesson. :crossed:
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Mesaclone on February 13, 2020, 08:18:53 PM
Nancy would be proud of you (wrap up smear). Name one position of Moore's that isn't the most conservative Constitutional correct one in the field. Name one so-called "creepy" thing that is backed by actual proof of it happening? I don't carry water for the enemy if I can help it.

Pick a topic... Red Flag Laws... Abortion ... Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)... Drugs .... Federal seizures ...  10th Amendment ... Illegal Immigration .... and post your Alabama candidate's position.

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMBeUORJWj4#)

So, you're saying he didn't date a 17 year old when he was in his 30's? And you're also saying he DIDN'T lose to a democrat in what is a deep, deep, deep red state?

Frankly, I don't care what his positions are on the issues...no more than I care what Michael Jackson or Jeffrey Epstein's positions were. He's a perv who's certain to lose again if he were to be nominated...which he won't be.

As for what Nancy wants...well...she wants the Republicans to nominate guys like Roy Moore. Why you want to oblige her and further her Socialist goals is a true mystery.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 13, 2020, 08:41:26 PM
 :2popcorn:
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 13, 2020, 08:43:59 PM
Pick a topic... Red Flag Laws... Abortion ... Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)... Drugs .... Federal seizures ...  10th Amendment ... Illegal Immigration .... .

This may all be true @Sighlass  --- he may be the most conservative man in the state.  But judge Moore has no political base in Alabama.  He lost the primary for the governorship in 2006 and again in 2010. After a stint on the judiciary, he won the runoff primary for the Senate but lost to the seat in the general election.

For conservative ideas to have "teeth" the candidate must also have electability.  And for some reason, Alabamans have been saying "no" to his drive for political office since 2006.  Court: Yes; Political office:  No  :shrug:

Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: TomSea on February 13, 2020, 08:58:49 PM
It's an interesting case to discuss, textbook case on politics but I'm sure, I would have voted for him in the general election.

Unless, I was really familiar with someone who said all of this stuff is true. He did not do well in that interview with Hannity I believe.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Sighlass on February 13, 2020, 10:58:46 PM
This may all be true @Sighlass  --- he may be the most conservative man in the state.  But judge Moore has no political base in Alabama.  He lost the primary for the governorship in 2006 and again in 2010. After a stint on the judiciary, he won the runoff primary for the Senate but lost to the seat in the general election.

For conservative ideas to have "teeth" the candidate must also have elect-ability.  And for some reason, Alabamans have been saying "no" to his drive for political office since 2006.  Court: Yes; Political office:  No  :shrug:

Hold it, for a man with no base how did he win the two elections before the bombshell lies delivered at the last second. Why did you not mention those elections which he did win? If Mo Brooks (whom I like) lost to Roy, should he not run because he has no elect-ability? Of course not... what you are saying is just not true, Roy was very electable until everyone dumped on him. One expects that kind of behavior from democrats, not from the GOP. You expect true conservatives to point out the obvious, that the claims against Moore were just baseless claims thrown in to shift just enough votes away from God fearing voters to tilt the results. Instead everyone threw Roy under the bus... spread lies like he was banned from a mall, instead of circling the wagon they duck taped him, pushed him out, painted a target on him and invited people to heap more dung on him. Imagine if they did that to Kavanaugh, or Justice Thomas and nobody defended them...  I don't like Trump, but I did defend Kavanaugh (whom I correctly said wasn't a great conservative) for the way they treated him. Why, because it was the right thing to do.... I totally defended Thomas because it was a just his word vs her word thing years out of contention of being legal to prosecute. I have said over and over, if you have a gripe ladies, put it out there as soon as possible, because over time it only become less believable in today's political sphere. How many ladies have now claimed Trump raped them? Do you believe them?

The worse that can remotely be believed about Roy was he did date younger ladies. We don't know how young, but I don't have any trouble believing he might of asked to date a 17y/o at one time. I know I did, at 27 (nearly 28) ask a 17 y/o to go out on a date. I also asked her mother, and I behaved like a gentleman. I have been married to her for close to 30 years now. I must be a pervert and didn't know it.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Sighlass on February 13, 2020, 11:08:55 PM
So, you're saying he didn't date a 17 year old when he was in his 30's? ........... He's a perv....
I started dating my wife when she was 17... I was nearly 28.... where is that line line where "perv" begins? Asking for the wife of course...
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 14, 2020, 02:36:49 AM
So, you're saying he didn't date a 17 year old when he was in his 30's? And you're also saying he DIDN'T lose to a democrat in what is a deep, deep, deep red state?

Frankly, I don't care what his positions are on the issues...no more than I care what Michael Jackson or Jeffrey Epstein's positions were. He's a perv who's certain to lose again if he were to be nominated...which he won't be.

As for what Nancy wants...well...she wants the Republicans to nominate guys like Roy Moore. Why you want to oblige her and further her Socialist goals is a true mystery.

IIRC, she was 19, not 17; he was 32, fresh from West Point, two tours in the Army, and law school. Those two years (in her age) make a big difference.
Dating a nineteen year-old doesn't make him a perv, it makes you jealous!  :silly: :tongue2:
Besides, dating in those days did not necessarily involve having sex (more like a movie and a malted), and was done with the permission of her parents.
Not the same thing as cruising for some kid at the sock hop.

Did he lose to a Democrat? (Jones)
Yep, after being smeared by Democrats and and the media in the 11th hour and abandoned by Republicans who repeated the lies. (Sex smears, See also: Clarence Thomas Confirmation, Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation)

He won two other elections (Chief Justice, AL Supreme Court, twice), and lost one primary (for Governor), which puts his batting average at .500, electorally.

I am at a loss to see how Roy Moore would further the goals of the Socialists. He is about as solid on the US Constitution as you are going to find, and even got in trouble for upholding the Alabama Constitution's marriage Amendment when he was Chief Justice. I just don't see that making any headway for the Marxists at all.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Sighlass on February 14, 2020, 02:50:59 AM
I am at a loss to see how Roy Moore would further the goals of the Socialists. He is about as solid on the US Constitution as you are going to find, and even got in trouble for upholding the Alabama Constitution's marriage Amendment when he was Chief Justice. I just don't see that making any headway for the Marxists at all.

Yep, and Roy's reasoning on the Gay's adopting was sound...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-the-1960s-havent-returned-to-alabama (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-the-1960s-havent-returned-to-alabama)

Even the NY Times reluctantly agreed with Roy Moore....

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/magazine/in-sort-of-defense-of-roy-moore.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/magazine/in-sort-of-defense-of-roy-moore.html)


Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: ArneFufkin on February 14, 2020, 04:39:16 AM
I started dating my wife when she was 17... I was nearly 28.... where is that line line where "perv" begins? Asking for the wife of course...

I'd have a problem with that.  Honestly.

I am a huge proponent of "Love and Marriage" but there is NO DOUBT if I saw you and and a 17 year old girl 11 years under your age I'd intervene.  To your distress and likely beat down.


Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: ArneFufkin on February 14, 2020, 05:21:41 AM
I started dating my wife when she was 17... I was nearly 28.... where is that line line where "perv" begins? Asking for the wife of course...

So ... she was a JUNIOR in High School?  Eleventh grade?

And, you were 28?

Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 14, 2020, 05:58:50 AM
So ... she was a JUNIOR in High School?  Eleventh grade?

And, you were 28?
Check your math. I had graduated High School and was a freshman in college at 17. I wasn't the only one, either.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Mesaclone on February 14, 2020, 11:08:28 AM
I started dating my wife when she was 17... I was nearly 28.... where is that line line where "perv" begins? Asking for the wife of course...

The line begins in his 30's. Is that clearly defined enough for you. How do you feel about Doug Hutchinson marrying 16 year old Courtney Stodden...is that alright with you? You see...there is a line that should not be crossed, and while I'm aware conventions were somewhat different 40 years ago (my own parents were 31 and 21 when married) it was not so different that a man in his mid 30's should be dating a 17 year old.  As a father to 3 daughters, I can tell you that is just plain gross.

Notably, you ignore the fact he lost to a Dem in a deeply Red State Senate election...something the Right cannot afford to do. So whilst we can quibble over the societal rights and wrongs of men in their 30's dating teenagers, its not a viable argument to assert that Republican Senatorial nominees should actually have a chance to defeat their Dem opponents. Nearly the ONLY way to lose that seat again, would be to run Roy Moore...so in what way can you argue that such an event would be anything less than Nancy Pelosi's wet dream.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Once-Ler on February 14, 2020, 11:26:42 AM
I'm rooting for Sessions for no other reason than I like the man and I believe he has core values and integrity.  I thought that long before President Trump came along.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Mesaclone on February 14, 2020, 04:01:21 PM


I am at a loss to see how Roy Moore would further the goals of the Socialists.

I think its rather obvious how....by losing. Again.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 14, 2020, 04:36:07 PM
I think its rather obvious how....by losing. Again.
Actually, I figured now that the bullsh*t accusations have been debunked, exposed for the election dirty tricks they are, that he'd have a much better chance at being elected.

The mud didn't stick, under scrutiny.

Now those who want desperately, for whatever reason to keep spewing that dreck, will, and would consider him to be an inappropriate candidate, but the only shite apparently that stuck stuck to the lenses with which some view him.

His wife, BTW, is 14 years his junior, and considering an Uncle of mine married similarly (in his 40s), it does not seem that unusual to me. They remained married, until my Uncle's death; Moore and his wife remain married as well. So, all the harping about age differences, so long as both are of legal age, seems moot to me.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Bigun on February 14, 2020, 04:45:50 PM
Me, I'm all for the people of the individual states allowing Washington D C. elites to continue telling them who they can have as their representatives in Washington! /S
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Mesaclone on February 14, 2020, 05:10:13 PM
Actually, I figured now that the bullsh*t accusations have been debunked, exposed for the election dirty tricks they are, that he'd have a much better chance at being elected.

The mud didn't stick, under scrutiny.

Now those who want desperately, for whatever reason to keep spewing that dreck, will, and would consider him to be an inappropriate candidate, but the only shite apparently that stuck stuck to the lenses with which some view him.

His wife, BTW, is 14 years his junior, and considering an Uncle of mine married similarly (in his 40s), it does not seem that unusual to me. They remained married, until my Uncle's death; Moore and his wife remain married as well. So, all the harping about age differences, so long as both are of legal age, seems moot to me.

Either he dated a 17 year old when in his 30's or he didn't...evidence seems clear that he did. So its clearly NOT debunked. That disqualifies him in my book...you and a few others may think that's OK, but enough voters to make him lose will not be so "cool" with that kind of pervy behavior. There are other strong conservatives like Sessions without that baggage who will win back that seat so its moronic even to consider Moore.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: truth_seeker on February 14, 2020, 05:37:18 PM
I'd have a problem with that.  Honestly.


My grandparents married when he was age 40, and she was age 20.

Remained married until his death at age 87.

Big Horn county, Wyoming. He had roamed the West since about age 14 according to family lore. He worked for Bill Cody's Wild West show, wrangled cattle from Sweet Grass County Montana to Tesas.

There are varied times, varied places, varied customs.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 14, 2020, 05:45:05 PM
Either he dated a 17 year old when in his 30's or he didn't...evidence seems clear that he did. So its clearly NOT debunked. That disqualifies him in my book...you and a few others may think that's OK, but enough voters to make him lose will not be so "cool" with that kind of pervy behavior. There are other strong conservatives like Sessions without that baggage who will win back that seat so its moronic even to consider Moore.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you don't live in Alabama, then what you or I want means precisely dick.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Mesaclone on February 14, 2020, 06:59:10 PM
Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you don't live in Alabama, then what you or I want means precisely dick.

We’re discussing the issue as it relates to a smart NATIONAL approach to Congressional elections in which Republicans nominate the most conservative candidate WHO CAN WIN in their particular local or state election. That being the context, all of our opinions are relevant and valid on this matter. I’m simply congratulating Alabamans on their good sense in not supporting a candidate who is a proven loser at the Senatorial race level. 
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Sighlass on February 14, 2020, 08:15:40 PM
I'd have a problem with that.  Honestly.

I am a huge proponent of "Love and Marriage" but there is NO DOUBT if I saw you and and a 17 year old girl 11 years under your age I'd intervene.  To your distress and likely beat down.

Save your posturing for Sneaky, lets just say nobody said anything negative to me, wouldn't of mattered if they did.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Bigun on February 20, 2020, 03:00:29 PM
Report: Billionaire Behind Botched Iowa Caucus Vote Was Involved In 2017 Smear Campaign In Ala. (https://www.oann.com/report-billionaire-behind-botched-iowa-caucus-vote-was-involved-in-2017-smear-campaign-in-ala/)

@Sighlass @Smokin Joe others still following this.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Sighlass on February 20, 2020, 03:07:30 PM
Report: Billionaire Behind Botched Iowa Caucus Vote Was Involved In 2017 Smear Campaign In Ala. (https://www.oann.com/report-billionaire-behind-botched-iowa-caucus-vote-was-involved-in-2017-smear-campaign-in-ala/)

@Sighlass @Smokin Joe others still following this.

There was two more out of state fellows that pumped in the fund 100,ooo or more to cyber bully Roy Moore... One a ex-judge that was accused of underage messing with girls/boys and some other fellow that ran some DC progressive group... I never did find where they had anything done to them.
 
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 20, 2020, 05:08:41 PM
Report: Billionaire Behind Botched Iowa Caucus Vote Was Involved In 2017 Smear Campaign In Ala. (https://www.oann.com/report-billionaire-behind-botched-iowa-caucus-vote-was-involved-in-2017-smear-campaign-in-ala/)

@Sighlass @Smokin Joe others still following this.
Nothing we didn't know or strongly suspect. The global Socialists and Global corporatists are throwing their vast resources in to influence elections.
Both ultimately have similar goals: the dissolution of sovereign nations and a global government. In that, even though they envision slightly different people in charge, they are working together to dismantle nations, especially this one.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: txradioguy on February 20, 2020, 05:33:14 PM
Report: Billionaire Behind Botched Iowa Caucus Vote Was Involved In 2017 Smear Campaign In Ala. (https://www.oann.com/report-billionaire-behind-botched-iowa-caucus-vote-was-involved-in-2017-smear-campaign-in-ala/)

@Sighlass @Smokin Joe others still following this.

Color me shocked.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Bigun on February 20, 2020, 07:12:33 PM
Nothing we didn't know or strongly suspect. The global Socialists and Global corporatists are throwing their vast resources in to influence elections.
Both ultimately have similar goals: the dissolution of sovereign nations and a global government. In that, even though they envision slightly different people in charge, they are working together to dismantle nations, especially this one.

Yep!  And most of our Washington elite are perfectly willing to join forces with them.
Title: Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 20, 2020, 07:20:40 PM
Yep!  And most of our Washington elite are perfectly willing to join forces with them.
If they can't be the leaders, they'll be well rewarded puppets for those who pull the strings and keep them in the style they think they ought be accustomed.