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Title: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: rangerrebew on January 09, 2019, 12:26:10 PM
BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
January 9, 2019 Martin
 

Five GOP lawmakers reintroduced the WALL Act on Tuesday, which would fund the entire wall along the southern border between the United States and Mexico.

In a joint statement, the five Senators — Jim Inhofe, R-OK, Mike Rounds, R-S.D., John Kennedy, R-LA, Ted Cruz R-TX, and Bill Cassidy, R-LA, — argued that now is the perfect time to get the wall funded.

The the WALL Act would provide $25 billion in funding for President Donald Trump’s wall, which experts have argued would fund the entire project.


https://ilovemyfreedom.org/boom-gop-lawmakers-reintroduce-the-wall-act-to-fund-the-entire-border-wall/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: austingirl on January 09, 2019, 12:30:03 PM
Why only five?
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Sanguine on January 09, 2019, 12:32:59 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Emjay on January 09, 2019, 12:38:58 PM
Why only five?

Because those five are the leaders and the conservative thinkers in the Senate.  Others may follow.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: libertybele on January 09, 2019, 12:44:58 PM
Good luck.  Nancy's already said -$0-...what it's going to take is the next caravan mob knocking on our door and the media showing film footage several times a day.  This needs to somehow dominate the media so that the American people get the full picture of what's happening.

This needs to become a 'National' or American issue rather than a GOP or DEM issue.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: libertybele on January 09, 2019, 12:46:45 PM
Why only five?

Because they are the five that aren't standing there with their tails between their legs.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Victoria33 on January 09, 2019, 12:54:36 PM
Why only five?
@austingirl

Speaking of 5 as in $5 billion he wants: He wanted some money to get it started, then, once started, the rest would come to get it finished.  He is talking right now, saying the people not getting paid are for this.  The past few days he said these people not getting paid are Democrats; that would mean he is punishing them for being Democrats, but says today those not getting checks are for this. As usual, he contradicts himself every day.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: libertybele on January 09, 2019, 12:56:56 PM
@austingirl

He wanted some money to get it started, then, once started, the rest would come to get it finished.  He is talking right now, saying the people not getting paid are for this.  The past few days he said these people not getting paid are Democrats; that would mean he is punishing them for being Democrats, but says today those not getting checks are for this. As usual, he contradicts himself every day.

@Victoria33 are you opposed to a wall, or a physical barrier?
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Victoria33 on January 09, 2019, 01:14:02 PM
@Victoria33 are you opposed to a wall, or a physical barrier?
@libertybele

No, not against a wall (whatever it is called) where it is necessary.  Trump also knows there are areas where illegals can't cross due to natural topography - mountains, etc.  The Texas boundary is so long, the natural lay of the land changes.  I wound depend on our border guards to help me decide where a wall is necessary as they live with this every day.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: austingirl on January 09, 2019, 01:25:08 PM
@austingirl

Speaking of 5 as in $5 billion he wants: He wanted some money to get it started, then, once started, the rest would come to get it finished.  He is talking right now, saying the people not getting paid are for this.  The past few days he said these people not getting paid are Democrats; that would mean he is punishing them for being Democrats, but says today those not getting checks are for this. As usual, he contradicts himself every day.

@Victoria33

I meant why only 5 senators supporting the bill.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: libertybele on January 09, 2019, 01:29:28 PM
@libertybele

No, not against a wall (whatever it is called) where it is necessary.  Trump also knows there are areas where illegals can't cross due to natural topography - mountains, etc.  The Texas boundary is so long, the natural lay of the land changes.  I wound depend on our border guards to help me decide where a wall is necessary as they live with this every day.

Ok, perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but it seems that you are against this President and his attempts to get funding for the wall.  I completely understand you don't like his character much, nor do I, but at this point, he either negotiates and gets the money or he needs to declare a national emergency.  I don't see much else he can do. 
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Victoria33 on January 09, 2019, 01:33:43 PM
@Victoria33
I meant why only 5 senators supporting the bill.
@austingirl

I know that now.  Once a bill is introduced by one or more senators, others will want their names on it, too, so this bill will likely gather more signing onto it.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Emjay on January 09, 2019, 02:29:24 PM
@libertybele

No, not against a wall (whatever it is called) where it is necessary.  Trump also knows there are areas where illegals can't cross due to natural topography - mountains, etc.  The Texas boundary is so long, the natural lay of the land changes.  I wound depend on our border guards to help me decide where a wall is necessary as they live with this every day.

Trump will definitely listen to experts regarding the placement of the wall.  And he will certainly listen to the border patrol.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: libertybele on January 09, 2019, 02:36:39 PM
Trump will definitely listen to experts regarding the placement of the wall.  And he will certainly listen to the border patrol.

Not concerned about the logistics at all.  Only thing needed is $$.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Fishrrman on January 09, 2019, 08:14:14 PM
Victoria wrote:
"I wound depend on our border guards to help me decide where a wall is necessary"

I will hazard a guess that their response would be, "it's necessary the entire length of the border".
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Chosen Daughter on January 09, 2019, 08:40:50 PM
Good luck.  Nancy's already said -$0-...what it's going to take is the next caravan mob knocking on our door and the media showing film footage several times a day.  This needs to somehow dominate the media so that the American people get the full picture of what's happening.

This needs to become a 'National' or American issue rather than a GOP or DEM issue.

Oh, they are.  Things are horrible on the border.  And liberals I know are saying that illegal immigration is down.  I wonder where they are getting their disinformation from?  I was watching this lady on FOX tonight her name is Trish Regan she was exposing the cost of illegal immigration.  Anyway there was a guy on her show that said illegal immigration broke a record in December.  Its never been that high.  I like her.  Where did she come from?
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: edpc on January 09, 2019, 08:55:38 PM
And liberals I know are saying that illegal immigration is down.  I wonder where they are getting their disinformation from?


I dunno.....maybe from Trump?


Now, it just came out that they’re 73 percent down. ... That’s a tremendous achievement. ... Look at this, in 100 days, that down to the lowest in 17 years and it’s going lower. Now, people aren’t coming because they know they’re not going to get through, and there isn’t crime. You know the migration up to the border is horrible for women, you know that? (Unintelligible.) Now, much of that’s stopped because they can’t get through.

https://apnews.com/c810d7de280a47e88848b0ac74690c83


He was all set to take the credit in April 2017 for the drop, but not the blame for the increase since then? Makes sense.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Chosen Daughter on January 09, 2019, 09:12:09 PM

I dunno.....maybe from Trump?


Now, it just came out that they’re 73 percent down. ... That’s a tremendous achievement. ... Look at this, in 100 days, that down to the lowest in 17 years and it’s going lower. Now, people aren’t coming because they know they’re not going to get through, and there isn’t crime. You know the migration up to the border is horrible for women, you know that? (Unintelligible.) Now, much of that’s stopped because they can’t get through.

https://apnews.com/c810d7de280a47e88848b0ac74690c83


He was all set to take the credit in April 2017 for the drop, but not the blame for the increase since then? Makes sense.

I have no doubt that the numbers came down immediately following his election.  But just like a child who has figured out the parents are bluffing the illegal immigrants figured it out also.  I do think that he bears some responsibility for the increase.  Because he should have immediately taken a stand on his promise to the American people.

But we are here now.  I am supporting his shutdown.  I am supporting him as long as he doesn't cave on this. 
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Sanguine on January 09, 2019, 09:18:03 PM
I have no doubt that the numbers came down immediately following his election.  But just like a child who has figured out the parents are bluffing the illegal immigrants figured it out also.  I do think that he bears some responsibility for the increase.  Because he should have immediately taken a stand on his promise to the American people.

But we are here now.  I am supporting his shutdown.  I am supporting him as long as he doesn't cave on this.

Well, that and the fact that the numbers were down for a while.   :whistle:
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Once-Ler on January 09, 2019, 11:55:02 PM
Quote
BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall

Who gets fooled by this?  The wall is a joke.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 12:04:02 AM
Who gets fooled by this?  The wall is a joke.

Slow night at DU?
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Once-Ler on January 10, 2019, 02:41:39 AM
Slow night at DU?
@Amb. Frank Cannon got fooled  88finger point
I stopped believing in the wall fairy when he said Mexico would pay for it.  This shutdown is a side spectacle to distract from the impending impeachment of the President who cried "wall."  I'm so moist.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: The Ghost on January 10, 2019, 02:44:26 AM
@Amb. Frank Cannon got fooled  88finger point
 I'm so moist.

Anal leakage.   Seek help.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Once-Ler on January 10, 2019, 03:20:45 AM
Anal leakage.   Seek help.

What's the matter @The Ghost ?  Is this forum not big enough for your fantasy of a huge national monument to Trump's racism, and my fantasy of a human President?

Where else I'm I going to find the cutting edge presidential press release regurgitation of https://ilovemyfreedom.org (https://ilovemyfreedom.org) and www.freedomboner.gun (http://www.freedomboner.gun) if I don't stop in here?
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Sanguine on January 10, 2019, 09:25:46 AM
@Amb. Frank Cannon got fooled  88finger point
I stopped believing in the wall fairy when he said Mexico would pay for it.  This shutdown is a side spectacle to distract from the impending impeachment of the President who cried "wall."  I'm so moist.

So, you just post here to make fun of those you feel to be less perceptive than you?

Oh, wait, you've always done that.  Trump is just another excuse for you to be obnoxious.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: skeeter on January 10, 2019, 09:44:38 AM
What's the matter @The Ghost ?  Is this forum not big enough for your fantasy of a huge national monument to Trump's racism, and my fantasy of a human President?

Where else I'm I going to find the cutting edge presidential press release regurgitation of https://ilovemyfreedom.org (https://ilovemyfreedom.org) and www.freedomboner.gun (http://www.freedomboner.gun) if I don't stop in here?

Thats fine but why always go & bore the snot out of everyone with your predictable grunts & clicks?
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: MOD8 on January 10, 2019, 09:57:02 AM
Stick to the topic and quit with the insults.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: aligncare on January 10, 2019, 10:06:27 AM
Thats fine but why always go & bore the snot out of everyone with your predictable grunts & clicks?

@skeeter

For years @Once-Ler was a normal poster – well, as normal as any right winger can be – until Donald Trump came along and seems to have upset his sense of balance about politics.

It’s hard for him to recognize a president not concerned with upsetting the status quo but rather with fixing long term problems and getting results – niceties be damned.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 10, 2019, 10:12:58 AM

I dunno.....maybe from Trump?


Now, it just came out that they’re 73 percent down. ... That’s a tremendous achievement. ... Look at this, in 100 days, that down to the lowest in 17 years and it’s going lower. Now, people aren’t coming because they know they’re not going to get through, and there isn’t crime. You know the migration up to the border is horrible for women, you know that? (Unintelligible.) Now, much of that’s stopped because they can’t get through.

https://apnews.com/c810d7de280a47e88848b0ac74690c83


He was all set to take the credit in April 2017 for the drop, but not the blame for the increase since then? Makes sense.

Now you know (or you should)....  that back in April 2017, Trump had only been president officially for about two months.  I have no doubt that the stats on illegals had dropped at that time due to his rhetoric and promises to control illegal immigration and deport illegals.   However, you should also know that after that.... the radical leftists started the orchestrated caravans of immigrant invaders.  So blaming Trump for what he said then vs. now is just silly.


Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 10, 2019, 10:17:11 AM
Well, that and the fact that the numbers were down for a while.   :whistle:

Perhaps... but only because the segment of illegals that really were only interested in American jobs didn't come during the Obamanation due to the LACK of American jobs back then.  With the improved economy, that changed (obviously).  Ironic that the downside to the improved job market is renewed influx of illegals. 
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: edpc on January 10, 2019, 12:45:18 PM
Who gets fooled by this?  The wall is a joke.


Then, you’ll find this amusing.....


(https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_02/2710976/190110-border-wall-steel-prototype-nbc-news-exclusive_a94294e20f94de9e58b58be2f7e5f48d.fit-760w.jpg)

A photo shows that the steel columns were breached with a common industrial tool.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/test-steel-prototype-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856?fbclid=IwAR1VighTlMom1LLoisMw3SXy44kscBeRX-ER2UpRSD9wWDxWQceBKw_B4c8 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/test-steel-prototype-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856?fbclid=IwAR1VighTlMom1LLoisMw3SXy44kscBeRX-ER2UpRSD9wWDxWQceBKw_B4c8)



"I know you're not into the construction business," Trump told her. "You don't understand something. We now have a great steel business that’s rebuilt in the United States. Steel is stronger than concrete. If I build this wall, or fence, or anything that Democrats need to call it... because I’m not into names, I’m into production, I’m into something that works.”


Sorry... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=2cCHEh0Pwzc#)
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 10, 2019, 12:57:47 PM

Then, you’ll find this amusing.....


(https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_02/2710976/190110-border-wall-steel-prototype-nbc-news-exclusive_a94294e20f94de9e58b58be2f7e5f48d.fit-760w.jpg)

A photo shows that the steel columns were breached with a common industrial tool.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/test-steel-prototype-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856?fbclid=IwAR1VighTlMom1LLoisMw3SXy44kscBeRX-ER2UpRSD9wWDxWQceBKw_B4c8 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/test-steel-prototype-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856?fbclid=IwAR1VighTlMom1LLoisMw3SXy44kscBeRX-ER2UpRSD9wWDxWQceBKw_B4c8)



"I know you're not into the construction business," Trump told her. "You don't understand something. We now have a great steel business that’s rebuilt in the United States. Steel is stronger than concrete. If I build this wall, or fence, or anything that Democrats need to call it... because I’m not into names, I’m into production, I’m into something that works.”


Sorry... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=2cCHEh0Pwzc#)

And as we already know (or assume...lol)... the illegals coming will be bringing their tree-trimming equipment with them.   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: libertybele on January 10, 2019, 01:05:36 PM
And as we already know (or assume...lol)... the illegals coming will be bringing their tree-trimming equipment with them.   *****rollingeyes*****

I heard that are holding steel cutting contests to see who can cut through the steel slats the quickest.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: edpc on January 10, 2019, 01:07:27 PM
And as we already know (or assume...lol)... the illegals coming will be bringing their tree-trimming equipment with them.   *****rollingeyes*****



Smugglers and cartel groups will certainly have industrial tools.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 10, 2019, 01:12:13 PM


Smugglers and cartel groups will certainly have industrial tools.

So when we catch those smugglers and cartel groups sawing the wall.... can we incarcerate and then force them to re-install a new piece of wall to repair the damage they did?   I'm pretty sure we'll have drones operated by border agents, monitoring that wall.  Or am I just dreaming..... :shrug:
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Emjay on January 10, 2019, 01:12:33 PM
@skeeter

For years @Once-Ler was a normal poster – well, as normal as any right winger can be – until Donald Trump came along and seems to have upset his sense of balance about politics.

It’s hard for him to recognize a president not concerned with upsetting the status quo but rather with fixing long term problems and getting results – niceties be damned.

Really?  I haven't been here long enough to have seen the rational @Once-Ler   And I don't read the posts of the irrational one.  Why bother?  Totally predictable.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Emjay on January 10, 2019, 01:13:53 PM
So when we catch those smugglers and cartel groups sawing the wall.... can we incarcerate and then force them to re-install a new piece of wall to repair the damage they did?   I'm pretty sure we'll have drones operated by border agents, monitoring that wall.  Or am I just dreaming..... :shrug:

No, not really.  We certainly have the technology to support the wall with drones or whatever is needed.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: libertybele on January 10, 2019, 01:17:31 PM


Smugglers and cartel groups will certainly have industrial tools.

Indeed.  Unless people themselves have gone to the border or have seen pictures on both sides of the border, they don't realize what is going on.  I was awakened years ago. The 'rape' trees along the border to get here are real. That's why, I believe the President should have gone in with a film crew at the border and then come back with video and made his case for a border wall.  Coyotes make just as much, if not more money money smuggling people in then some of the cartel make bringing in drugs.   
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 10, 2019, 01:27:03 PM
No, not really.  We certainly have the technology to support the wall with drones or whatever is needed.

Yeah, we have the technology.  Question is....

will we be allowed to use it. 
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: aligncare on January 10, 2019, 01:32:29 PM
Really?  I haven't been here long enough to have seen the rational @Once-Ler   And I don't read the posts of the irrational one.  Why bother?  Totally predictable.

I didn’t mean to suggest we agreed all the time, or that @Once-Ler didn’t use the same sardonic wit in his postings. It’s just back then he didn’t have this burr under his saddle like with Trump (blessed be his name happy77 ) as a constant irritant. He’s gotten quite mean lately over that.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: edpc on January 10, 2019, 01:34:58 PM
So when we catch those smugglers and cartel groups sawing the wall.... can we incarcerate and then force them to re-install a new piece of wall to repair the damage they did?   I'm pretty sure we'll have drones operated by border agents, monitoring that wall.  Or am I just dreaming..... :shrug:



Sure, but it is relatively easy for them to occupy our high tech and expensive assets occupied, with a couple of guys running around the desert, in an old junker, while they breach elsewhere. The point is, this barrier is not the panacea Trump is claiming it will be.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: libertybele on January 10, 2019, 01:35:02 PM
No, not really.  We certainly have the technology to support the wall with drones or whatever is needed.

Of course we have the technology, but drones without a wall and increased manpower are futile.  The drones can certainly spot those coming across, but how long do you think its going to take 'manpower' to get there??  Keep in mind that the southern border is appx. 1,954 miles long and there are only appx.16,000 border agents. 

A wall alone isn't going to stop illegal immigration, but a barrier is definitely needed to aid and assist technology and manpower.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 10, 2019, 01:58:02 PM


Sure, but it is relatively easy for them to occupy our high tech and expensive assets occupied, with a couple of guys running around the desert, in an old junker, while they breach elsewhere. The point is, this barrier is not the panacea Trump is claiming it will be.

Nothing is 100% or perfect, especially not in 'this' world and reality we find ourselves in.   But look at it this way.  I'd rather them spend the money on increased border control and building a wall to keep invaders out... than use it for more failed and failing "freebie" welfare schemes for those same illegals.

Surely (Shirley?)....
you can't argue with that.   :laugh:
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: edpc on January 10, 2019, 02:04:50 PM
Nothing is 100% or perfect, especially not in 'this' world and reality we find ourselves in.   But look at it this way.  I'd rather them spend the money on increased border control and building a wall to keep invaders out... than use it for more failed and failing "freebie" welfare schemes for those same illegals.

Surely (Shirley?)....
you can't argue with that.   :laugh:


I can, because I always thought the better option was having a stable country that people didn’t want to flee, as a neighbor.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 10, 2019, 02:19:27 PM

I can, because I always thought the better option was having a stable country that people didn’t want to flee, as a neighbor.

Well... yeah... but .... the leftists that had any say-so in government gave (us) up on that option way back in the 40s-60s... about the same time that they managed to demonize "McCarthism" (ie...commiephobia).   What has happened in those countries (Nicaragua, for instance) is the expected result of such leftist policies.  Same for Venezuela.  Which plays right into the leftist agenda (shock)... of inundating America with illegals that will (eventually) be able to vote Democrat.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: edpc on January 10, 2019, 02:33:39 PM
Well... yeah... but .... the leftists that had any say-so in government gave (us) up on that option way back in the 40s-60s... about the same time that they managed to demonize "McCarthism" (ie...commiephobia).   What has happened in those countries (Nicaragua, for instance) is the expected result of such leftist policies.  Same for Venezuela.  Which plays right into the leftist agenda (shock)... of inundating America with illegals that will (eventually) be able to vote Democrat.


Canada is decidedly more left than us, but they manage not to cause us problems. There are enough people in Central American countries that really do want something better to make a difference, if they really wanted it. We fought a Revolution and Civil War to attain it. They may need to, as well.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 10, 2019, 02:40:12 PM

Canada is decidedly more left than us, but they manage not to cause us problems. There are enough people in Central American countries that really do want something better to make a difference, if they really wanted it. We fought a Revolution and Civil War to attain it. They may need to, as well.

They may have already studied history... and decided that it's no use.   The leftists (commies) in this country have always swooped in to help the leftist side of every nation... while demonizing us for daring to help the non-commie side.  It is what it is.  And unless that changes.... and I don't see it happening... they will have no chance. 
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: DCPatriot on January 10, 2019, 02:47:38 PM
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Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Once-Ler on January 10, 2019, 04:40:39 PM
@skeeter

For years @Once-Ler was a normal poster – well, as normal as any right winger can be – until Donald Trump came along and seems to have upset his sense of balance about politics.

It’s hard for him to recognize a president not concerned with upsetting the status quo but rather with fixing long term problems and getting results – niceties be damned.

It is impossible for me to recognize Trump as effective.  When the wall gets built, I'll come back and apologize to the border patriots who thought they would get a wall.  Until then I'll consider those people as deluded, even if pointing out the truth seems obnoxious. 

@aligncare @skeeter @Sanguine @Emjay thanx for your personal comments about my posts.  I suggest you turn that critical eye towards President Veruca Salt. 
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: musiclady on January 10, 2019, 04:43:38 PM
(http://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49998225_10213760059617688_9188155173338349568_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=bd08f11eb5edf55ebe9d692dce584471&oe=5CCCDAF2)

I didn't realize you had such a lovely soprano voice, old friend!  wink777
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: musiclady on January 10, 2019, 04:45:33 PM

Canada is decidedly more left than us, but they manage not to cause us problems. There are enough people in Central American countries that really do want something better to make a difference, if they really wanted it. We fought a Revolution and Civil War to attain it. They may need to, as well.

My leftist friends claim that those coming in from Canada are more dangerous than those coming through the southern border..... more terrorists, that is.

How does one counter that claim?
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Axeslinger on January 10, 2019, 05:09:37 PM
My leftist friends claim that those coming in from Canada are more dangerous than those coming through the southern border..... more terrorists, that is.

How does one counter that claim?
You don’t.  You can’t fix stupid.  No argument, no matter how fact based, will have any impact on their utopian world view.  It’s best to just not have leftist friends.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 05:18:08 PM
My leftist friends claim that those coming in from Canada are more dangerous than those coming through the southern border..... more terrorists, that is.

How does one counter that claim?

By not hanging out with patently stupid people like that.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 10, 2019, 05:49:49 PM
You don’t.  You can’t fix stupid.  No argument, no matter how fact based, will have any impact on their utopian world view.  It’s best to just not have leftist friends.

I don't.  Hell, I even cut leftie relatives out of my life!   Don't need the blood pressure issue.   :silly:
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Sanguine on January 10, 2019, 06:45:38 PM
It is impossible for me to recognize Trump as effective.  When the wall gets built, I'll come back and apologize to the border patriots who thought they would get a wall.  Until then I'll consider those people as deluded, even if pointing out the truth seems obnoxious. 

@aligncare @skeeter @Sanguine @Emjay thanx for your personal comments about my posts.  I suggest you turn that critical eye towards President Veruca Salt.

No, this IS all about you.  Don't try to shift the focus.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Emjay on January 10, 2019, 08:26:59 PM
It is impossible for me to recognize Trump as effective.  When the wall gets built, I'll come back and apologize to the border patriots who thought they would get a wall.  Until then I'll consider those people as deluded, even if pointing out the truth seems obnoxious. 

@aligncare @skeeter @Sanguine @Emjay thanx for your personal comments about my posts.  I suggest you turn that critical eye towards President Veruca Salt.

Well, sure @Once-Ler   When the wall gets built it will be easy to support Trump on that.  Right now, Trump is trying every possible way to achieve that outcome.  NOW is when he needs support.  After he's won, support is cheap.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: libertybele on January 10, 2019, 08:28:55 PM
Well, sure @Once-Ler   When the wall gets built it will be easy to support Trump on that.  Right now, Trump is trying every possible way to achieve that outcome.  NOW is when he needs support.  After he's won, support is cheap.

Very well stated @Emjay
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Once-Ler on January 11, 2019, 01:16:18 AM
Well, sure @Once-Ler   When the wall gets built it will be easy to support Trump on that.  Right now, Trump is trying every possible way to achieve that outcome.  NOW is when he needs support.  After he's won, support is cheap.
I disagree

Insane ultimatums and childish insults is not trying.  Trump hasn't the power to back up his empty threats and commands and he has done nothing to win others to his side.  Trump hasn't even slowed down his golf schedule.  He has already laid the blame for his failure on the rats...relying on his brain dead followers to forget the last 2 years, just as they forgot Mexico was going to pay for a wall, the DoJ was going to capture Hitlery, and the GOP was going to repeal Obamacare.  Most people are not dumb enough to fall for excuses like it is never Trump's fault that he pisses everybody else off...or it is always NT's fault that the Trump cult is disillusioned by the reality behind the tweets.   

Trump is incompetent and ignorant.  His single term in office will be ridiculed for decades, and when all is said and done, you @Emjay will be red faced with embarrassment and likely the first one to deny you rode the Trump Train for so long.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 11, 2019, 07:53:12 AM
I disagree

Insane ultimatums and childish insults is not trying. 

Ah, still Schumer's wingman.  Is he paying you during the shutdown?
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 11, 2019, 09:13:46 AM
I disagree

Insane ultimatums and childish insults is not trying.  Trump hasn't the power to back up his empty threats and commands and he has done nothing to win others to his side.  Trump hasn't even slowed down his golf schedule.  He has already laid the blame for his failure on the rats...relying on his brain dead followers to forget the last 2 years, just as they forgot Mexico was going to pay for a wall, the DoJ was going to capture Hitlery, and the GOP was going to repeal Obamacare.  Most people are not dumb enough to fall for excuses like it is never Trump's fault that he pisses everybody else off...or it is always NT's fault that the Trump cult is disillusioned by the reality behind the tweets.   

Trump is incompetent and ignorant.  His single term in office will be ridiculed for decades, and when all is said and done, you @Emjay will be red faced with embarrassment and likely the first one to deny you rode the Trump Train for so long.

The main problem with that impressive rant is.... the alternative to all of Trump's warts, tweets, failures and character flaws...

would have been a President Hillary Clinton.   Those of us that DO have cognitive awareness and logic know full well what that would have meant for America.... and no, it doesn't include a healthy, growing economy, lower taxes and regulations, cheaper gas, a booming job market or a military that is actually valued vs. demonized for a refreshing change....  it includes the exact opposite, like what we were inflicted with during the Obamanation.  So pardon my abject dismissal of your angst over Donald Trump here... cause considering all that, I suspect that your motivation reeks of leftism. 

As for Trump 'not having the power'.... it ain't over yet, and at least .... despite the rats' best efforts to derail, diffuse and destroy him.... he's still trying and still going... like the energizer bunny.  Fair-minded folks give him credit for that. 

The rats and rat supporters can go straight to Hell as far as I'm concerned....

just in case there was ever any doubt.   happy77
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Emjay on January 11, 2019, 01:13:15 PM
I disagree

Insane ultimatums and childish insults is not trying.  Trump hasn't the power to back up his empty threats and commands and he has done nothing to win others to his side.  Trump hasn't even slowed down his golf schedule.  He has already laid the blame for his failure on the rats...relying on his brain dead followers to forget the last 2 years, just as they forgot Mexico was going to pay for a wall, the DoJ was going to capture Hitlery, and the GOP was going to repeal Obamacare.  Most people are not dumb enough to fall for excuses like it is never Trump's fault that he pisses everybody else off...or it is always NT's fault that the Trump cult is disillusioned by the reality behind the tweets.   

Trump is incompetent and ignorant.  His single term in office will be ridiculed for decades, and when all is said and done, you @Emjay will be red faced with embarrassment and likely the first one to deny you rode the Trump Train for so long.

Nothing that you say has the slightest bit of truth to it.  He explained that he did not mean that Mexico would literally pay for the wall, as in writing a check.  He meant that they would eventually pay and they will.  They will pay because they cannot send their crooks and losers over to the U.S. anymore, nor can they send their massive drug industry over here.

If you had the slightest grasp of what is really going on and could see through your Trump hate blinders, you would realize that, even aside from the border security issue, Trump has done numerous other things to help the country.

The economy is better.  Job growth is happening.  We are far more respected on an International basis.  Many, many little things:  reducing government; calling attention to the need for forest management to reduce wildfires.

All you can do is whine about his personal tweets and habits.  With his schedule, which is probably ten times as onerous as anything you could do in a week, I'm glad he has the golf breaks.

The person who will be red-faced should be you, but it won't be because you are living in an alternate reality.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: musiclady on January 11, 2019, 01:32:25 PM
You don’t.  You can’t fix stupid.  No argument, no matter how fact based, will have any impact on their utopian world view.  It’s best to just not have leftist friends.

Well, some are related to me, and I made a decision long ago (Reagan days) not to sever a family tie because of politics.

I just limit the political conversation as much as I can when I'm around them.  :shrug:
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: edpc on January 11, 2019, 01:41:37 PM
Nothing that you say has the slightest bit of truth to it.  He explained that he did not mean that Mexico would literally pay for the wall, as in writing a check.  He meant that they would eventually pay and they will.  They will pay because they cannot send their crooks and losers over to the U.S. anymore, nor can they send their massive drug industry over here.


I guess he meant money order, wire transfer, or plane load of cash?

It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160405142626/http://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall (https://web.archive.org/web/20160405142626/http://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-claims-he-never-meant-mexico-would-write-a-check-to-pay-for-the-wall/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-claims-he-never-meant-mexico-would-write-a-check-to-pay-for-the-wall/)
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: aligncare on January 11, 2019, 01:46:39 PM
Nothing that you say has the slightest bit of truth to it.  He explained that he did not mean that Mexico would literally pay for the wall, as in writing a check.  He meant that they would eventually pay and they will.  They will pay because they cannot send their crooks and losers over to the U.S. anymore, nor can they send their massive drug industry over here.

If you had the slightest grasp of what is really going on and could see through your Trump hate blinders, you would realize that, even aside from the border security issue, Trump has done numerous other things to help the country.

The economy is better.  Job growth is happening.  We are far more respected on an International basis.  Many, many little things:  reducing government; calling attention to the need for forest management to reduce wildfires.

All you can do is whine about his personal tweets and habits.  With his schedule, which is probably ten times as onerous as anything you could do in a week, I'm glad he has the golf breaks.

The person who will be red-faced should be you, but it won't be because you are living in an alternate reality.

It’s a pity to see @Once-Ler so mired in hate. He’s missing out on possibly the experience of a lifetime. The satisfaction of significant victories for what was once ostensibly his side of the political aisle. Not since Reagan are republicans winning on so many high profile issues. He should be basking – not bitching.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 11, 2019, 05:05:11 PM
It’s a pity to see @Once-Ler so mired in hate. He’s missing out on possibly the experience of a lifetime. The satisfaction of significant victories for what was once ostensibly his side of the political aisle. Not since Reagan are republicans winning on so many high profile issues. He should be basking – not bitching.

Wow.   You... talking about what someone else should be doing on the forum. 

Ironic.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: ABX on January 11, 2019, 05:11:05 PM
My leftist friends claim that those coming in from Canada are more dangerous than those coming through the southern border..... more terrorists, that is.

How does one counter that claim?

They are relying on two, incomplete pieces of data.

1. More people on the terrorist watch list have been apprehended crossing the Canadian border.
2. Certain classes of drugs, like opioids come more from Canada.

Those are incomplete because they are a very small slice of a larger pie. The terrorist watch list, for example, doesn't account for the complete number of criminals that enter, at that, it is a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of, for example, the number who come in through various street gangs or organized crime.

Opioids are not the only drug to come across. Cocaine for example, mostly comes across the southern border. Heroin, through ports (hidden in shipments). Meth is mostly domestically produced. Pot is from all over, but now that it is being legalized quickly, it is become less of an issue on either border.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: musiclady on January 11, 2019, 05:15:36 PM
They are relying on two, incomplete pieces of data.

1. More people on the terrorist watch list have been apprehended crossing the Canadian border.
2. Certain classes of drugs, like opioids come more from Canada.

Those are incomplete because they are a very small slice of a larger pie. The terrorist watch list, for example, doesn't account for the complete number of criminals that enter, at that, it is a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of, for example, the number who come in through various street gangs or organized crime.

Opioids are not the only drug to come across. Cocaine for example, mostly comes across the southern border. Heroin, through ports (hidden in shipments). Meth is mostly domestically produced. Pot is from all over, but now that it is being legalized quickly, it is become less of an issue on either border.

Thanks.  I didn't know what the leftist talking points were that game them that idea.

They're always so pompous that I didn't want to counter it until I knew where they were coming from.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: musiclady on January 11, 2019, 05:17:20 PM
Wow.   You... talking about what someone else should be doing on the forum. 

Ironic.

Yeah............. ain't it??  *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: ABX on January 11, 2019, 05:28:02 PM
Thanks.  I didn't know what the leftist talking points were that game them that idea.

They're always so pompous that I didn't want to counter it until I knew where they were coming from.

Here are some examples they cite:
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/canadian-border-bigger-terror-threat-mexican-border-says-border-patrol-chief (https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/canadian-border-bigger-terror-threat-mexican-border-says-border-patrol-chief)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dhs-drug-smuggling-is-the-biggest-threat-on-the-us-canada-border (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dhs-drug-smuggling-is-the-biggest-threat-on-the-us-canada-border)
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/how-fentanyl-is-getting-through-canadas-border/article29547443/ (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/how-fentanyl-is-getting-through-canadas-border/article29547443/)


Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: aligncare on January 11, 2019, 07:42:19 PM
Wow.   You... talking about what someone else should be doing on the forum. 

Ironic.

Could you be more specific about your insinuation?  I’ve got about a nanosecond in my schedule to read then completely ignore it.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: sneakypete on January 11, 2019, 08:25:24 PM
Of course we have the technology, but drones without a wall and increased manpower are futile.  The drones can certainly spot those coming across, but how long do you think its going to take 'manpower' to get there??  Keep in mind that the southern border is appx. 1,954 miles long and there are only appx.16,000 border agents. 

A wall alone isn't going to stop illegal immigration, but a barrier is definitely needed to aid and assist technology and manpower.

@libertybele

Not going to be the problem some people think it is. They can put sensors in the wall to detect the vibrations from a grinding wheel,saw blade,or cutting torch,and then sent agents to that spot after verifying what is going on with a drone.

Having said that,I still prefer the cement wall. More expensive to put up,but will outlast steel by at least 10 to 1,and will require no maintenance while doing so. Yeah,you can cut concrete with a saw too,but who has a saw that will cut concrete that is 4 feet thick?

A wall will be the same as a force multiplier for the border patrol agents because it will force the illegals and the cartels to focus their efforts at one place,and the BP can create "way stations every few miles in areas most likely to be breached. When the sensors embedded in the walls start to scream in pain,they know where to go,and just load up and go there.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: sneakypete on January 11, 2019, 08:26:59 PM

I can, because I always thought the better option was having a stable country that people didn’t want to flee, as a neighbor.

@edpc

We iz da wurld.......

We iz da peep-pulls......

Group hug! Group hug!
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: sneakypete on January 11, 2019, 08:28:41 PM

Canada is decidedly more left than us, but they manage not to cause us problems. There are enough people in Central American countries that really do want something better to make a difference, if they really wanted it. We fought a Revolution and Civil War to attain it. They may need to, as well.

@edpc

The DO need to start civil wars to overthrow their corrupt,thieving govenrments.

And we can  help them to do this by keeping their citizens from invading America.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Chosen Daughter on January 11, 2019, 08:35:20 PM
Thanks.  I didn't know what the leftist talking points were that game them that idea.

They're always so pompous that I didn't want to counter it until I knew where they were coming from.

Another liberal talking point is if you can believe it that Hondurans are coming because of what Hillary did to them.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: musiclady on January 11, 2019, 10:00:14 PM
Here are some examples they cite:
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/canadian-border-bigger-terror-threat-mexican-border-says-border-patrol-chief (https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/canadian-border-bigger-terror-threat-mexican-border-says-border-patrol-chief)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dhs-drug-smuggling-is-the-biggest-threat-on-the-us-canada-border (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dhs-drug-smuggling-is-the-biggest-threat-on-the-us-canada-border)
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/how-fentanyl-is-getting-through-canadas-border/article29547443/ (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/how-fentanyl-is-getting-through-canadas-border/article29547443/)

Thanks again!
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Emjay on January 11, 2019, 10:37:06 PM
It’s a pity to see @Once-Ler so mired in hate. He’s missing out on possibly the experience of a lifetime. The satisfaction of significant victories for what was once ostensibly his side of the political aisle. Not since Reagan are republicans winning on so many high profile issues. He should be basking – not bitching.

Yes, Trump hate has caused a few people to lose touch with reality and it is sad.  Facts simply do not matter with those people and it almost appears they don't fully realize who the true enemy is.

By not supporting Trump, they are giving aid to that enemy and they simply don't care.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Emjay on January 11, 2019, 10:38:54 PM
Wow.   You... talking about what someone else should be doing on the forum. 

Ironic.

Yeah ... that's your job, isn't it?
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: libertybele on January 11, 2019, 11:25:09 PM
@edpc

We iz da wurld.......

We iz da peep-pulls......

Group hug! Group hug!

The moral of the story; we've donated and given and given and given ...and our good will has been taken advantage of... it's time to secure our borders and secure our sovereignty or we won't be able to help as we have in the past.  IF America falls, so will the rest of the free world.  WE are the World!!!! 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9BNoNFKCBI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9BNoNFKCBI#)
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 12, 2019, 12:36:42 AM
@Victoria33

I meant why only 5 senators supporting the bill.

I understood you perfectly. Some people have no reading comprehension.   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 12, 2019, 12:42:50 AM
The barrier should NOT EVEN be question, nor DEBATED about.  Democrats should care about AMERICANS/CITIZENS.
If people can listen to this, see this, and still hate my president, something is lacking within themselves, NOT MY PRESIDENT!


Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOKc9ABCyH4#)
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 12, 2019, 12:44:56 AM
Yes, Trump hate has caused a few people to lose touch with reality and it is sad.  Facts simply do not matter with those people and it almost appears they don't fully realize who the true enemy is.

By not supporting Trump, they are giving aid to that enemy and they simply don't care.
:thumbsup:


Perfectly and very well said!   
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Once-Ler on January 12, 2019, 07:22:30 AM
Nothing that you say has the slightest bit of truth to it.  He explained that he did not mean that Mexico would literally pay for the wall, as in writing a check.  He meant that they would eventually pay and they will.  They will pay because they cannot send their crooks and losers over to the U.S. anymore, nor can they send their massive drug industry over here.

2 years after his presidency Trump proclaims "Mexico will pay" does not mean what 100% of American voters think it means.  Good one @Emjay  :silly:

Quote
If you had the slightest grasp of what is really going on and could see through your Trump hate blinders, you would realize that, even aside from the border security issue, Trump has done numerous other things to help the country.

The economy is better. 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/31/investing/dow-stock-market-today/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/31/investing/dow-stock-market-today/index.html) 2018 was the worst for stocks in 10 years
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/investing/stocks-worst-december-since-great-depression/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/investing/stocks-worst-december-since-great-depression/index.html)  Stocks on track for worst December since the Great Depression


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Job growth is happening. 

https://www.kctv5.com/news/unemployment-claims-by-federal-workers-skyrocket/article_c9a9a1bd-976d-535b-81eb-34e497a2e994.html (https://www.kctv5.com/news/unemployment-claims-by-federal-workers-skyrocket/article_c9a9a1bd-976d-535b-81eb-34e497a2e994.html)  Unemployment claims by federal workers skyrocket

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We are far more respected on an International basis. 
that is so stupid it doesn't need a rebuttal link.

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Many, many little things:  reducing government; calling attention to the need for forest management to reduce wildfires.
  Forest management?  FOREST MANAGEMENT!!! are freaking kidding?  The man can't tie his own shoes.  Get real.

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All you can do is whine about his personal tweets and habits.  With his schedule, which is probably ten times as onerous as anything you could do in a week, I'm glad he has the golf breaks.

The person who will be red-faced should be you, but it won't be because you are living in an alternate reality.

So your fall back position is Trump is a better man than me?  Unlike our President I have asked God to forgive my sins.  also...
I would never let my son go to prison because of me. 
I would never sleep with my daughter. 
I don't insult people because of their race.
I wouldn't embarrass my wife at $130,000 a pop
I wouldn't lie to my supporters and promise things I couldn't deliver like a wall, justice for Hitlery, Obamacare repeal, swamp draining, or competence.

because of this I feel confident in proclaiming President Trump is not qualified to lick the sweat off my taint.  I'm not surprised by your very low standards of satisfaction.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: sneakypete on January 12, 2019, 09:45:45 AM

Democrats should care about AMERICANS/CITIZENS.
 

@LegalAmerican

Dims MUST suck up to foreigners because there are not enough American votes to keep them in power. And make no mistake about it,it is all about personal power and wealth with them. They don't give a damn about America,the foreigners they pretend to love,or anyone else but themselves.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: DCPatriot on January 12, 2019, 09:50:45 AM
(http://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50088468_10156592099388127_2844739487920029696_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=35b4f6ca2f44f11e05fe29ec48225137&oe=5CBF6D00)

@Once-Ler
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 12, 2019, 10:59:47 AM
Could you be more specific about your insinuation?  I’ve got about a nanosecond in my schedule to read then completely ignore it.

Lol...I'm referring to the ssdd snark that you apparently feel compelled to display against anyone (like myself) that doesn't sufficiently and reverently bow at the altar of St. Donald... on a 24/7 schedule.  It's not enough that some of us give him credit when due.  Oh hell no. 

But hey... it's no big deal.  I just love the irony.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 12, 2019, 11:03:55 AM
Yeah ... that's your job, isn't it?

I have no doubt.... that if we went back over your posts and mine....

that yours would be the ones chastising and preaching and personally bashing folks here...

not mine.

Care to take up that challenge?

Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: MOD3 on January 12, 2019, 11:07:00 AM
Take it elsewhere.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Night Hides Not on January 12, 2019, 11:13:17 AM
I have no doubt.... that if we went back over your posts and mine....

that yours would be the ones chastising and preaching and personally bashing folks here...

not mine.

Care to take up that challenge?

Are you seeking to open up another can of worms?  Lol, those of us who are referred to as NT's have been blasted as traitorous, anti-Americans for not buying everything that the President is selling.

Of course, my post will be seen as a direct bashing of every member of the Orange Brigade that posts on these forums.


At least, there's one thing we can agree on...border security/a wall is "the hill to die on". Should the Republicans/Trump lose this battle, for which anything less than a total victory will be considered a cave, it will be impossible for the Democrats to screw it up in 2020.

Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 12, 2019, 11:23:03 AM
Are you seeking to open up another can of worms?  Lol, those of us who are referred to as NT's have been blasted as traitorous, anti-Americans for not buying everything that the President is selling.

Oh hell no, not seeking that at all.  Just commenting on some of the comments here that always 'seek' to chastise or silence folks for voicing their (differing) opinions here.   Several posters have already been driven out.  Oddly enough, the ones I've noticed that are gone were NTers.  The always Trumpers (slavishly loyal, that) are incapable, of course, of discerning the huge plank in their own hypocritical eyes... per usual... when called on it (See: Emjay).

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Of course, my post will be seen as a direct bashing of every member of the Orange Brigade that posts on these forums.

Of course.  The always Trumpers just seem to roll that way...lol.

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At least, there's one thing we can agree on...border security/a wall is "the hill to die on". Should the Republicans/Trump lose this battle, for which anything less than a total victory will be considered a cave, it will be impossible for the Democrats to screw it up in 2020.

If Trump loses the border wall battle, he is toast in 2020 and we (all of us on the right) will become victims of the radical right...

once again.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: aligncare on January 12, 2019, 11:25:19 AM
Lol...I'm referring to the ssdd snark that you apparently feel compelled to display against anyone (like myself) that doesn't sufficiently and reverently bow at the altar of St. Donald... on a 24/7 schedule.  It's not enough that some of us give him credit when due.  Oh hell no. 

But hey... it's no big deal.  I just love the irony.

I believe I was talking about @Once-Ler to @Emjay when you butted in. Allow me to de-construct your error.

No one here would say that Once-ler “doesn't sufficiently and reverently bow at the altar of St. Donald” primarily because he makes no secret of the fact that he disdains Donald Trump, and in no way would he ever bow to anything Trump.

So, in your estimation who was it that I was “compelled to display” snark against? Once-ler? You? And just as you needed no one’s permission to butt into my conversation, I don’t need your permission to address anyone here with my opinion.

You certainly are not anyone to talk about snark, yourself, Lady.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Bigun on January 12, 2019, 11:28:05 AM
@libertybele

Not going to be the problem some people think it is. They can put sensors in the wall to detect the vibrations from a grinding wheel,saw blade,or cutting torch,and then sent agents to that spot after verifying what is going on with a drone.

Having said that,I still prefer the cement wall. More expensive to put up,but will outlast steel by at least 10 to 1,and will require no maintenance while doing so. Yeah,you can cut concrete with a saw too,but who has a saw that will cut concrete that is 4 feet thick?

A wall will be the same as a force multiplier for the border patrol agents because it will force the illegals and the cartels to focus their efforts at one place,and the BP can create "way stations every few miles in areas most likely to be breached. When the sensors embedded in the walls start to scream in pain,they know where to go,and just load up and go there.

@sneakypete

100% agreement! But there are other things that need doing as well.  Turning off all the magnets being chief among them!

Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 12, 2019, 11:32:05 AM

I believe I was talking about @Once-Ler to @Emjay when you butted in. Allow me to de-construct your error.

Oh my.  Defensive much?    :silly:

Psst!  Public forum = no such thing as 'butting in'.   *****rollingeyes*****

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No one here would say that Once-ler “doesn't sufficiently and reverently bow at the altar of St. Donald” primarily because he makes no secret of the fact that he disdains Donald Trump, and in no way would he ever bow to anything Trump.

Reallly?  (duh)

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So, in your estimation who was it that I was “compelled to display” snark against? Once-ler? You? And just as you needed no one’s permission to butt into my conversation, I don’t need your permission to address anyone here with my opinion.

Yeah, you're completely and totally oblivious of the snark you direct at me and others that you 'deem' as not sufficiently worshipful of Trump.  Riiight.  Not... buying....it.   You know damned well who and why you snark at folks here.  Puhleeeze.

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You certainly are not anyone to talk about snark, yourself, Lady.

Why thank you.   You're damned right... I can snark with the best of em.  Especially when I'm pointing out your snark.     wink777
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Axeslinger on January 12, 2019, 11:41:18 AM
@LegalAmerican

Dims MUST suck up to foreigners because there are not enough American votes to keep them in power. And make no mistake about it,it is all about personal power and wealth with them. They don't give a damn about America,the foreigners they pretend to love,or anyone else but themselves.

@sneakypete

And make no mistake about it...the Repubs are no different...
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Dexter on January 12, 2019, 11:49:09 AM
five are the leaders and thinkers

That's probably part of the problem.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Emjay on January 12, 2019, 12:14:49 PM
I have no doubt.... that if we went back over your posts and mine....

that yours would be the ones chastising and preaching and personally bashing folks here...

not mine.

Care to take up that challenge?

Gladly @XenaLee   Because way back when ... I never posted to you and I didn't even know you, you jumped in on my discussion with other people to chide me.  That's you all over.

And you don't even see the irony in the fact that you jumped in again on posts that did not concern you. 
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 12, 2019, 12:22:53 PM
Gladly @XenaLee   Because way back when ... I never posted to you and I didn't even know you, you jumped in on my discussion with other people to chide me.  That's you all over.

And you don't even see the irony in the fact that you jumped in again on posts that did not concern you.

You mean.... kinda like this....?    :silly:

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,347022.msg1888196.html#msg1888196 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,347022.msg1888196.html#msg1888196)

Your hypocrisy really does.... know 'no' bounds.

Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: DCPatriot on January 12, 2019, 12:27:20 PM
Take it elsewhere.

Hey!  WTF???

Do I have to get involved here in order for you to come back here?    :smokin:
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 12, 2019, 12:28:43 PM
Hey!  WTF???

Do I have to get involved here in order for you to come back here?    :smokin:

Lol!

Snitches get stitches, DCP.   You should know that by now.   :whistle:
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: MOD3 on January 12, 2019, 12:30:03 PM
Ladies, end this now or take a break.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: XenaLee on January 12, 2019, 12:33:20 PM
Ladies, end this now or take a break.

Would you please ask Emjay to refrain from pinging me (back) to the thread? 

Much appreciated.    happy77
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: sneakypete on January 12, 2019, 01:40:44 PM
@sneakypete

100% agreement! But there are other things that need doing as well.  Turning off all the magnets being chief among them!

@Bigun

"Magnets"????
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Emjay on January 12, 2019, 02:28:40 PM
@sneakypete

100% agreement! But there are other things that need doing as well.  Turning off all the magnets being chief among them!

Well, let's just get a wall, concrete or steel.  We certainly have the technology to prevent people from climbing a steel wall.  We managed to keep Tyrannosaurus Rex behind a barrier, ya know.
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Bigun on January 12, 2019, 06:54:48 PM
@Bigun

"Magnets"????

@sneakypete

Yeah! The ones that draw them here like moths to a lightbulb!
Title: Re: BOOM: GOP Lawmakers Reintroduce The Wall Act To Fund The ENTIRE Border Wall
Post by: Chosen Daughter on January 12, 2019, 07:00:10 PM
Well, let's just get a wall, concrete or steel.  We certainly have the technology to prevent people from climbing a steel wall.  We managed to keep Tyrannosaurus Rex behind a barrier, ya know.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT44ddY0hBehgQntfn4G-nNzo3-snRjbgebOJh-uy7Zf0mtbUi9)