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Title: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: mystery-ak on December 29, 2018, 02:41:34 PM
 By Dave Boyer - The Washington Times - Saturday, December 29, 2018

President Trump said Saturday he is “waiting for the Democrats” to make a deal with him that would end the eight-day-old government shutdown and fund his border wall.

“I am in the White House waiting for the Democrats to come on over and make a deal on Border Security,” Mr. Trump tweeted. “From what I hear, they are spending so much time on Presidential Harassment that they have little time left for things like stopping crime and our military!”

The president met with his chief shutdown negotiators Friday night. He had dinner with Vice President Mike Pence, acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and presidential adviser Jared Kushner at the vice president’s residence at the Naval Observatory in Washington.

Democrats have not made a counteroffer to the administration’s proposal for border-wall funding on Dec. 22. Most lawmakers are out of town for the holidays.

Democrats will take over the House majority on Thursday, when they’re expected to propose legislation that would end the partial government shutdown without funding the border wall.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/29/donald-trump-says-hes-still-waiting-democrats-make/ (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/29/donald-trump-says-hes-still-waiting-democrats-make/)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Chosen Daughter on December 29, 2018, 05:19:01 PM
We shouldn't be playing lets make a deal.  Steady as you go.  If you want to play lets make a deal up the ante.  Go bigger and get it done!
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on December 29, 2018, 05:34:15 PM
After all, It's worked Great for the DealMaker in his first 2 years.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3465/3372225823_d68a3e7376_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Axeslinger on December 29, 2018, 05:38:15 PM
After all, It's worked Great for the DealMaker in his first 2 years.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3465/3372225823_d68a3e7376_z.jpg)

His past decisions/foibles/whatever notwithstanding...I give him credit for standing tough on this.  And I hope he has the stomach to see it through.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Chosen Daughter on December 29, 2018, 06:11:45 PM
If he is negotiating down then he doesn't.  Its just like the image.   Enough money for a go around fence here and there.

I wonder if you could explain Trumps tweets about Mexico is paying for wall.  How does the trade deal have anything to do with border wall if the money saved by better trade isn't designated for wall?

Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 29, 2018, 08:04:36 PM
If he is negotiating down then he doesn't.  Its just like the image.   Enough money for a go around fence here and there.

I wonder if you could explain Trumps tweets about Mexico is paying for wall.  How does the trade deal have anything to do with border wall if the money saved by better trade isn't designated for wall?

I honestly believe those tweets were before Trump actually became aware of the functionality of the three branches of government.

I don't think the trade deal had anything to do with the wall, though I haven't read what the agreement actually states.  All that we've been told is that the deal was to arrange for fair trade between the countries rather than free trade benefiting one country over the other.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Fishrrman on December 29, 2018, 08:42:59 PM
corbe wrote:
"After all, It's worked Great for the DealMaker in his first 2 years."

What nonsense.

The Republican CONGRESS had two years to get something done.
What did they accomplish?

(Hmmmm.... I think they may have indeed "accomplished" their intended goal:
To get themselves back into the minority again!)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 29, 2018, 08:49:59 PM
corbe wrote:
"After all, It's worked Great for the DealMaker in his first 2 years."

What nonsense.

The Republican CONGRESS had two years to get something done.
What did they accomplish?

(Hmmmm.... I think they may have indeed "accomplished" their intended goal:
To get themselves back into the minority again!)


As I stated in another post, this is nothing but a Trump/GOP horse and pony show!  Trump will be a one term president. We will see a DEM seated in the oval office in 2020...bye-bye GOP.

Was this the game from the very beginning?  Trump and all the liberals and RINO's ensuring that a conservative didn't win the oval office?  Quite possibly indeed.  That was my first thought when Trump was running.  Though I can't discount some of the good he has done.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Chosen Daughter on December 29, 2018, 08:50:18 PM
I honestly believe those tweets were before Trump actually became aware of the functionality of the three branches of government.

I don't think the trade deal had anything to do with the wall, though I haven't read what the agreement actually states.  All that we've been told is that the deal was to arrange for fair trade between the countries rather than free trade benefiting one country over the other.

No, he is making those statements this month.  I don't see how he can say that.  The money isn't going toward the wall.  Furthermore, and you know this, he promised something like 10 billion to Mexico and Central America to "create jobs" or some baloney that would keep people in their own countries.  Pure baloney.  Two times what he is asking for border wall.  Now he wants to negotiate down.  What he wants isn't even enough.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-insists-mexico-is-paying-for-the-border-wall (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-insists-mexico-is-paying-for-the-border-wall)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on December 29, 2018, 09:01:15 PM
    Last week his Administration announced they were sending $B's to Mexico and Central America.  Yesterday he says he's "thinking" of withholding already approved funds to said Countries.  It's becoming hard to keep up with the day to day rhetoric.
   Kinda like the Chinese telecom companies spying on everything, one week he advocates for them, the next he's cursing them. 
   I am becoming more disillusioned by the day with this Administration (if that is even possible), realizing he is my ONLY Hope right now is becoming increasingly depressing with each passing week.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 29, 2018, 09:04:19 PM
No, he is making those statements this month.  I don't see how he can say that.  The money isn't going toward the wall.  Furthermore, and you know this, he promised something like 10 billion to Mexico and Central America to "create jobs" or some baloney that would keep people in their own countries.  Pure baloney.  Two times what he is asking for border wall.  Now he wants to negotiate down.  What he wants isn't even enough.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-insists-mexico-is-paying-for-the-border-wall (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-insists-mexico-is-paying-for-the-border-wall)

@Chosen Daughter since the gov't is shutdown and the House bill is basically dead once the new Congress is sworn in, in just a couple of days, then all of this is nothing but pure b.s.  The DEMS aren't going to budge.  Why would they?  The new House will have a DEM majority and they aren't going to give Trump the $$ that he needs in the budget. 

Oh ... the games that our politicians play! 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Chosen Daughter on December 29, 2018, 09:14:04 PM
    Last week his Administration announced they were sending $B's to Mexico and Central America.  Yesterday he says he's "thinking" of withholding already approved funds to said Countries.  It's becoming hard to keep up with the day to day rhetoric.
   Kinda like the Chinese telecom companies spying on everything, one week he advocates for them, the next he's cursing them. 
   I am becoming more disillusioned by the day with this Administration (if that is even possible), realizing he is my ONLY Hope right now is becoming increasingly depressing with each passing week.

Yeah, I don't think you could call it art of deal, but art of deception works.  Nobody knows day to day what is, or what isn't.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on December 29, 2018, 09:14:59 PM
   It's not lost on this NT'er that Ryan/McConnell failed Trump tremendously, go figure (it is his party, so he has to partially take the blame) but you would've thought the best damn DealMaker since the GodFather could have delivered something other than this nothing? 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on December 29, 2018, 09:15:48 PM
Why would anyone want a DEMON-RAT  for president?  Low I.Q. thinking.  More accomplished by president in 18 months, than any prior president. in 8 years!  It will take a bit of time for business's to come BACK to America. Demon-rats have made sure, they ALL LEFT.  How can any SANE PERSON, want anyone else in 2020?  It boggles the mind. Yes, US-MCA. New trade deal. It was always the intent of tariffs paying for the wall, that some think a HAND WRITTEN CHECK would be presented by mexico for the wall is LUNACY at its height!  A check, that says FOR THE WALL.  lol 

www.magapill.com (http://www.magapill.com)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Chosen Daughter on December 29, 2018, 09:16:30 PM
@Chosen Daughter since the gov't is shutdown and the House bill is basically dead once the new Congress is sworn in, in just a couple of days, then all of this is nothing but pure b.s.  The DEMS aren't going to budge.  Why would they?  The new House will have a DEM majority and they aren't going to give Trump the $$ that he needs in the budget. 

Oh ... the games that our politicians play!

And I hope you are considering Trump a politician also.  Funny I saw a clip not too long ago of a rally where Trump said they were calling him a politician.  When wasn't he one?  The only art of the deal he knew how to make was ones that would benefit him.  Why did he wait till the last hour?  Seems simple, it was too late.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Chosen Daughter on December 29, 2018, 09:20:03 PM
Why would anyone want a DEMON-RAT  for president?  Low I.Q. thinking.  More accomplished by president in 18 months, than any prior president. in 8 years!  It will take a bit of time for business's to come BACK to America. Demon-rats have made sure, they ALL LEFT.  How can any SANE PERSON, want anyone else in 2020?  It boggles the mind. Yes, US-MCA. New trade deal. It was always the intent of tariffs paying for the wall, that some think a HAND WRITTEN CHECK would be presented by mexico for the wall is LUNACY at its height!  A check, that says FOR THE WALL.  lol 

www.magapill.com (http://www.magapill.com)

How exactly would he get the money?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on December 29, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
Why would anyone want a DEMON-RAT  for president?  Low I.Q. thinking.  More accomplished by president in 18 months, than any prior president. in 8 years!  It will take a bit of time for business's to come BACK to America. Demon-rats have made sure, they ALL LEFT.  How can any SANE PERSON, want anyone else in 2020?  It boggles the mind. Yes, US-MCA. New trade deal. It was always the intent of tariffs paying for the wall, that some think a HAND WRITTEN CHECK would be presented by mexico for the wall is LUNACY at its height!  A check, that says FOR THE WALL.  lol 

www.magapill.com (http://www.magapill.com)


   I think more than a few here think we have a Low-IQ President now masquerading as a Conservative Republican POTUS @LegalAmerican /JS

   Happy New Year, I think I mean that.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 29, 2018, 09:26:43 PM
Why would anyone want a DEMON-RAT  for president?  Low I.Q. thinking.  More accomplished by president in 18 months, than any prior president. in 8 years!  It will take a bit of time for business's to come BACK to America. Demon-rats have made sure, they ALL LEFT.  How can any SANE PERSON, want anyone else in 2020?  It boggles the mind. Yes, US-MCA. New trade deal. It was always the intent of tariffs paying for the wall, that some think a HAND WRITTEN CHECK would be presented by mexico for the wall is LUNACY at its height!  A check, that says FOR THE WALL.  lol 

www.magapill.com (http://www.magapill.com)

This really has nothing to do with the accomplishments of this president and everything to do with DEM control and seeking power. At the rate the illegals are pouring over our borders, soon, by sheer numbers it will be impossible for the GOP to obtain enough votes to win a seat in Congress or the WH.  That's been the game plan for quite awhile.  Those that vote DEM are dependent on the 'system', they are used to 'free' and not having to work.  Those coming across the border receive 'perks' and will vote accordingly.  Yes, illegals vote.  Yes, when the DEMS get the majority in both Houses and take the WH, you will see amnesty and it will become mathematically impossible for the GOP to win future seats. LBJ's Great Society was to ensure the DEM vote.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on December 29, 2018, 09:29:12 PM
corbe wrote:
"After all, It's worked Great for the DealMaker in his first 2 years."

What nonsense.

The Republican CONGRESS had two years to get something done.
What did they accomplish?

(Hmmmm.... I think they may have indeed "accomplished" their intended goal:
To get themselves back into the minority again!)


And the whole time trump tweeted nasty things about them. I’m sure name calling those whom you need to make a deal is an entire chapter in The Art of the Deal.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on December 29, 2018, 09:32:04 PM
Why would anyone want a DEMON-RAT  for president?  Low I.Q. thinking.  More accomplished by president in 18 months, than any prior president. in 8 years!  It will take a bit of time for business's to come BACK to America. Demon-rats have made sure, they ALL LEFT.  How can any SANE PERSON, want anyone else in 2020?  It boggles the mind. Yes, US-MCA. New trade deal. It was always the intent of tariffs paying for the wall, that some think a HAND WRITTEN CHECK would be presented by mexico for the wall is LUNACY at its height!  A check, that says FOR THE WALL.  lol 

www.magapill.com (http://www.magapill.com)

Nobody here wants a Dem pres, which is why most of us voted for conservative options. Trump and his Pecker loving cult got us this. Also, I love how your now deflecting Trump’s claim about Mexico paying for the wall.  :silly:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on December 29, 2018, 09:38:18 PM
This really has nothing to do with the accomplishments of this president and everything to do with DEM control and seeking power. At the rate the illegals are pouring over our borders, soon, by sheer numbers it will be impossible for the GOP to obtain enough votes to win a seat in Congress or the WH.  That's been the game plan for quite awhile.  Those that vote DEM are dependent on the 'system', they are used to 'free' and not having to work.  Those coming across the border receive 'perks' and will vote accordingly.  Yes, illegals vote.  Yes, when the DEMS get the majority in both Houses and take the WH, you will see amnesty and it will become mathematically impossible for the GOP to win future seats. LBJ's Great Society was to ensure the DEM vote.


Yes his accomplishments ARE relevant. Are you kidding?   We know, everything you posted, for years now.  My president is trying to stop that. You seem, set, to GIVE IN.  No fight, just be negative, give America away.  It is NOT about GOP.

IT IS ABOUT SAVING OUR COUNTRY!  OUR WAY OF LIFE. OUR CONSTITUTION.  MY president is a CENTRIST anyway. 

Always has been.  I would think the LEFT/DEMOCRATS would like that.  We are near civil war. 

Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on December 29, 2018, 09:42:34 PM

Yes his accomplishments ARE relevant. Are you kidding?   We know, everything you posted, for years now.  My president is trying to stop that. You seem, set, to GIVE IN.  No fight, just be negative, give America away.  It is NOT about GOP.

IT IS ABOUT SAVING OUR COUNTRY!  OUR WAY OF LIFE. OUR CONSTITUTION.  MY president is a CENTRIST anyway. 

Always has been.  I would think the LEFT/DEMOCRATS would like that.  We are near civil war.

Not even close, and I bet you’ve never fired a weapon. Go home LA, you’re drunk.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on December 29, 2018, 09:43:44 PM
 888mouth
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 29, 2018, 10:05:42 PM

Yes his accomplishments ARE relevant. Are you kidding?   We know, everything you posted, for years now.  My president is trying to stop that. You seem, set, to GIVE IN.  No fight, just be negative, give America away.  It is NOT about GOP.

IT IS ABOUT SAVING OUR COUNTRY!  OUR WAY OF LIFE. OUR CONSTITUTION.  MY president is a CENTRIST anyway. 

Always has been.  I would think the LEFT/DEMOCRATS would like that.  We are near civil war.

Hello... It's been about saving this country for quite some time...that's nothing new...some of us have been working towards that goal for quite some time.  Some of us tried  to enlighten others about the overwhelming cost of illegal immigration on our society, by actually going out and speaking among people at different groups and attending various rallies and clubs, prayer vigils, etc., and trying to get others on board. We were met with ridicule, violence, disbelief, apathy and considered racists among other things. The reality is this problem should have been nipped in the bud then instead of over a decade later when the problem is out of control and yes, nearing some type of civil uprising.

I'm not being negative, rather I'm giving a dose of reality.  The liberal leftist believe the way of the DEM party and the illegals pouring over our borders have been told that all they have to do is come here and they will be given a free ride and all will vote accordingly.  As we have witnessed in the recent midterms, the integrity of our electoral process is questionable.  The DEMS will stop at nothing to ensure control even if it means promoting violence among their voting base and paying mobs in caravans to make their way into our country.  It's all about ensuring that they have the majority votes eventually giving them a one party system and eventual global dominance.

The second dose of reality is that WE the people have allowed our politicians to play the blame game and have not held them responsible nor accountable and the result is what we are experiencing today.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Axeslinger on December 30, 2018, 05:48:35 PM
Why would anyone want a DEMON-RAT  for president?  Low I.Q. thinking.  More accomplished by president in 18 months, than any prior president. in 8 years!  It will take a bit of time for business's to come BACK to America. Demon-rats have made sure, they ALL LEFT.  How can any SANE PERSON, want anyone else in 2020?  It boggles the mind. Yes, US-MCA. New trade deal. It was always the intent of tariffs paying for the wall, that some think a HAND WRITTEN CHECK would be presented by mexico for the wall is LUNACY at its height!  A check, that says FOR THE WALL.  lol 

www.magapill.com (http://www.magapill.com)

(All apologies to @mystery-ak ...really, truly...my apologies but I just can’t help myself on this one.)


But @LegalAmerican , I really just can’t take any more of your nonsensical, kool aid drinking bullshit where in almost every post you tell us that we have “Low IQ thinking” or some other derogatory, condescending remark implying that you are far brighter than us just because you’d like to have trumps love child.   So please allow me the opportunity to be the first to say go take a flying f’ing leap and GFY.   When you get two brain cells that actually talk to one another, come back and see us.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 30, 2018, 05:52:30 PM
(All apologies to @mystery-ak ...really, truly...my apologies but I just can’t help myself on this one.)


But @LegalAmerican , I really just can’t take any more of your nonsensical, kool aid drinking bullshit where in almost every post you tell us that we have “Low IQ thinking” or some other derogatory, condescending remark implying that you are far brighter than us just because you’d like to have trumps love child.   So please allow me the opportunity to be the first to say go take a flying f’ing leap and GFY.   When you get two brain cells that actually talk to one another, come back and see us.

 888high58888 and  888high58888
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 30, 2018, 06:08:54 PM
   It's not lost on this NT'er that Ryan/McConnell failed Trump tremendously, go figure (it is his party, so he has to partially take the blame) but you would've thought the best damn DealMaker since the GodFather could have delivered something other than this nothing?

Thank you! Trump isn't perfect. Trump has made mistakes. But let's not get distracted by the shiny, spinning disco ball and ignore the fact that Congress has been worthless these last two years.

If we're actually constitutionalists and conservatives, then if blame is to be spread, we need to recognize that the leaders of the separate-but-equal legislative branch of govt are just as culpable.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Axeslinger on December 30, 2018, 06:10:15 PM
Thank you! Trump isn't perfect. Trump has made mistakes. But let's not get distracted by the shiny, spinning disco ball and ignore the fact that Congress has been worthless these last two years.

If we're actually constitutionalists and conservatives, then if blame is to be spread, we need to recognize that the leaders of the separate-but-equal legislative branch of govt are just as culpable.
@Free Vulcan
100% spot on.  Couldn’t agree more
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on December 30, 2018, 06:11:36 PM
(All apologies to @mystery-ak ...really, truly...my apologies but I just can’t help myself on this one.)


But @LegalAmerican , I really just can’t take any more of your nonsensical, kool aid drinking bullshit where in almost every post you tell us that we have “Low IQ thinking” or some other derogatory, condescending remark implying that you are far brighter than us just because you’d like to have trumps love child.   So please allow me the opportunity to be the first to say go take a flying f’ing leap and GFY.   When you get two brain cells that actually talk to one another, come back and see us.


   Apparently @Axeslinger your not just a hater, your a misogynist hater, please report to your nearest county health clinic.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Axeslinger on December 30, 2018, 06:12:36 PM

   Apparently @Axeslinger your not just a hater, your a misogynist hater, please report to your nearest county health clinic.

@corbe

But do I get a medal?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on December 30, 2018, 06:17:09 PM
   The FDA no longer allows us Mercury to treat syphilis.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on December 30, 2018, 07:16:23 PM
Thank you! Trump isn't perfect. Trump has made mistakes. But let's not get distracted by the shiny, spinning disco ball and ignore the fact that Congress has been worthless these last two years.

If we're actually constitutionalists and conservatives, then if blame is to be spread, we need to recognize that the leaders of the separate-but-equal legislative branch of govt are just as culpable.

Almost all the blame lies on Congress, IMO.  It's hard to assign much to trump since we don't know if he would have signed all the conservative legislation they didn't bother to pass.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 30, 2018, 07:23:39 PM
Almost all the blame lies on Congress, IMO.  It's hard to assign much to trump since we don't know if he would have signed all the conservative legislation they didn't bother to pass.

Exactly.  FAILED leadership is responsible in BOTH the House and the Senate for the past 4 years. My complaint with Trump is his inability to reign in members of his own party.  After all he proclaimed that he was such a magnificent deal maker.  My other complaint is he waited till the very last few days.  Holding his breath and shutting down the government will prove futile in the next couple of days and then, in reality, what options does he have other than to go along with what he can eek out of Chuckie and Nancy.

It make him look incompetent and inept.  His meeting with Chuckie and Nancy was all nothing more than a stage show.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on December 30, 2018, 07:27:28 PM
Exactly.  FAILED leadership is responsible in BOTH the House and the Senate for the past 4 years. My complaint with Trump is his inability to reign in members of his own party.  After all he proclaimed that he was such a magnificent deal maker.  My other complaint is he waited till the very last few days.  Holding his breath and shutting down the government will prove futile in the next couple of days and then, in reality, what options does he have other than to go along with what he can eek out of Chuckie and Nancy.

It make him look incompetent and inept.  His meeting with Chuckie and Nancy was all nothing more than a stage show.

Keep in mind he didn't shut down (a very small part of) the gov't.  They haven't put a bill on his desk.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 30, 2018, 07:41:15 PM
Keep in mind he didn't shut down (a very small part of) the gov't.  They haven't put a bill on his desk.

The House approved a bill and of course the Senate refused to approve.  That House bill goes away in a couple of days, making Trump look incompetent and inept.  He fully knew that Chuck and Nancy would never approve ... so calling the media in was fruitless and foolish.  What did it accomplish?  Putting the blame on the shoulders of the DEMS?  That only matters to Trump's base.  The DEM base could care less.  They're applauding their leadership for not caving and the reality of the matter is, a new bill will NOT be passed granting Trump $$ in the budget for a wall with the new DEM majority in the House. The DEMS won again, even with a GOP majority!  So again, what did Trump accomplish on this issue?  Not a darn thing.  In fact, by all indications he's going to surrender to DACA, asylum and still we have no WALL. 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on December 30, 2018, 08:19:47 PM
The House approved a bill and of course the Senate refused to approve.  That House bill goes away in a couple of days, making Trump look incompetent and inept.  He fully knew that Chuck and Nancy would never approve ... so calling the media in was fruitless and foolish.  What did it accomplish?  Putting the blame on the shoulders of the DEMS?  That only matters to Trump's base.  The DEM base could care less.  They're applauding their leadership for not caving and the reality of the matter is, a new bill will NOT be passed granting Trump $$ in the budget for a wall with the new DEM majority in the House. The DEMS won again, even with a GOP majority!  So again, what did Trump accomplish on this issue?  Not a darn thing.  In fact, by all indications he's going to surrender to DACA, asylum and still we have no WALL.

Maybe.  But Trump is still not the one that shut the govt down.

When Congress puts a bill (or a budget!) on his desk and he vetoes it, then he can have the blame/credit for a shutdown.  Until then, it's a failure of Congress to do their job.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: montanajoe on December 30, 2018, 09:21:55 PM
Maybe.  But Trump is still not the one that shut the govt down.

When Congress puts a bill (or a budget!) on his desk and he vetoes it, then he can have the blame/credit for a shutdown.  Until then, it's a failure of The GOP Congress to do their job.

I wonder how many suckers are going to believe the GOP in 2020 when they say elect us to the majority again.....we promise we will do what we were elected to do this time... :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 30, 2018, 09:26:38 PM
I wonder how many suckers are going to believe the GOP in 2020 when they say elect us to the majority again.....we promise we will do what we were elected to do this time... :shrug:

Therein lies yet another problem.  We sure as heck don't want to keep electing the same people who continue to break their promises election after election.  Unfortunately, they often run unopposed or the opposition is under funded and/or unheard of and so they continue to get elected. The only other alternatives are to elect a liberal or refrain from voting. 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 30, 2018, 10:52:45 PM
Exactly.  FAILED leadership is responsible in BOTH the House and the Senate for the past 4 years. My complaint with Trump is his inability to reign in members of his own party. 

Don't put this bullshit on the President @libertybele   The problem in the House was NT Ryan and his refusal to bring legislation to the floor for a vote.  It was Ryan for his making unnecessary compromises.  It was Ryan for telling the President and us that he's going full out obstructionist because he's keeping the Speakership even though he's retiring and doesn't have to answer to the voters--or anyone-- again.

Nearly forty members of the Republican caucus in the House chose retirement en masse ... greasing the wheels for a flip in the House.  We can log this as Ryan's most significant victory.

On the Senate side our majority was cut in half by McCain, the high priest of NTs, refusing to retire and allow an actively voting Senator to replace him.  We lost the seat in Alabama because conservatives insisted on nominating a candidate--against the wishes and endorsement of the President-- who had two statewide defeats already under his belt.  When the pedophile charges hit, he didn't have the depth of support needed to withstand them.  But we got to argue morality for a few months, so I guess losing the seat was worth it.

Murkowski and Collins were reliable "no" votes who delighted in being the outliers and morally superior; and Flake--another one who removed himself from voter outrage---stayed up nights too excited to sleep knowing he was going to stop the President.  It didn't matter that he was also stopping his pro-America agenda, he was stopping the man.

By and large Republicans don't suck.  Republican NTs do.  What we're now witnessing is the Republican NT chickens coming home to roost.   Aim your anger at them.  They've earned it.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Axeslinger on December 30, 2018, 10:59:02 PM
By and large Republicans don't suck.  Republican NTs do.  What we're now witnessing is the Republican NT chickens coming home to roost.   Aim your anger at them.  They've earned it.

Nope.  I aim my anger at everyone who purports themselves to be and runs as a conservative ,and then fails to govern as such...including your deity trump, when he does the same thing.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on December 30, 2018, 11:05:58 PM
Don't put this bullshit on the President @libertybele   The problem in the House was NT Ryan and his refusal to bring legislation to the floor for a vote.  It was Ryan for his making unnecessary compromises.  It was Ryan for telling the President and us that he's going full out obstructionist because he's keeping the Speakership even though he's retiring and doesn't have to answer to the voters--or anyone-- again.

Nearly forty members of the Republican caucus in the House chose retirement en masse ... greasing the wheels for a flip in the House.  We can log this as Ryan's most significant victory.

On the Senate side our majority was cut in half by McCain, the high priest of NTs, refusing to retire and allow an actively voting Senator to replace him.  We lost the seat in Alabama because conservatives insisted on nominating a candidate--against the wishes and endorsement of the President-- who had two statewide defeats already under his belt.  When the pedophile charges hit, he didn't have the depth of support needed to withstand them.  But we got to argue morality for a few months, so I guess losing the seat was worth it.

Murkowski and Collins were reliable "no" votes who delighted in being the outliers and morally superior; and Flake--another one who removed himself from voter outrage---stayed up nights too excited to sleep knowing he was going to stop the President.  It didn't matter that he was also stopping his pro-America agenda, he was stopping the man.

By and large Republicans don't suck.  Republican NTs do.  What we're now witnessing is the Republican NT chickens coming home to roost.   Aim your anger at them.  They've earned it.

Are you suggesting that Paul Ryan had the influence to get 40 Representatives to retires??  My God, that level of leadership hasn't been achieved by the Republicans in my lifetime.  Trump must be jealous.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 30, 2018, 11:19:55 PM
Are you suggesting that Paul Ryan had the influence to get 40 Representatives to retires??

Yes.  In the first quarter of 2016 Ryan began telling the media and the caucus that the Republicans were not going to keep the House.  If you're going to retire now is the time was his drumbeat.  A rather self-fulfilling prophecy and Ryan's finest work.





Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on December 30, 2018, 11:27:28 PM
By and large Republicans don't suck.  Republican NTs do.  What we're now witnessing is the Republican NT chickens coming home to roost.   Aim your anger at them.  They've earned it.

Basically, we have the Democrats now 100% responsible for shutting down the government.  Yet instead of bashing them, you choose to bash anyone who does not swear blind allegiance to Trump.  Seriously, you are no different from a Democrat.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on December 30, 2018, 11:35:31 PM
Don't put this bullshit on the President @libertybele   The problem in the House was NT Ryan and his refusal to bring legislation to the floor for a vote.  It was Ryan for his making unnecessary compromises.  It was Ryan for telling the President and us that he's going full out obstructionist because he's keeping the Speakership even though he's retiring and doesn't have to answer to the voters--or anyone-- again.

Nearly forty members of the Republican caucus in the House chose retirement en masse ... greasing the wheels for a flip in the House.  We can log this as Ryan's most significant victory.

On the Senate side our majority was cut in half by McCain, the high priest of NTs, refusing to retire and allow an actively voting Senator to replace him.  We lost the seat in Alabama because conservatives insisted on nominating a candidate--against the wishes and endorsement of the President-- who had two statewide defeats already under his belt.  When the pedophile charges hit, he didn't have the depth of support needed to withstand them.  But we got to argue morality for a few months, so I guess losing the seat was worth it.

Murkowski and Collins were reliable "no" votes who delighted in being the outliers and morally superior; and Flake--another one who removed himself from voter outrage---stayed up nights too excited to sleep knowing he was going to stop the President.  It didn't matter that he was also stopping his pro-America agenda, he was stopping the man.

By and large Republicans don't suck.  Republican NTs do.  What we're now witnessing is the Republican NT chickens coming home to roost.   Aim your anger at them.  They've earned it.




THANK YOU!  I love clear minded people on here.  RARE...from what I see.   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 30, 2018, 11:42:32 PM
Basically, we have the Democrats now 100% responsible for shutting down the government.  Yet instead of bashing them, you choose to bash anyone who does not swear blind allegiance to Trump.  Seriously, you are no different from a Democrat.

Bullshit @Hoodat  I responded to a post blaming the President for not keeping the Republican caucus together.  I explained why this was impossible.  And I don't give a furry rat's ass if you don't like the truth.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on December 30, 2018, 11:43:53 PM
I copied this, as I've had this person on ignore for MONTHS, and do not read any posts of theirs, unless some copied them. Like now. I am not even talking to or replying to this person, Axeslinger,  EVER.  HOW CRAZY IS THAT?  If YOU feel convicted somehow, that is NOT ON ME. However YOUR POST, addressing me is, PERSONAL NAME CALLING and uncalled for.  Why are volunteering to be one of the LOW I.Q. people?  Point made. Nasty, nasty.  Must be true or else you would not post about me. Everything I say is true. I have earned the wisdom of age.  Now you will start bashing me for THAT.  YOU TALK LIKE THIS TO YOUR GRANDMA?

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Quote from: Axeslinger on Today at 05:48:35 PM
(All apologies to @mystery-ak ...really, truly...my apologies but I just can’t help myself on this one.)


But @LegalAmerican , I really just can’t take any more of your nonsensical, kool aid drinking bullshit where in almost every post you tell us that we have “Low IQ thinking” or some other derogatory, condescending remark implying that you are far brighter than us just because you’d like to have trumps love child.   So please allow me the opportunity to be the first to say go take a flying f’ing leap and GFY.   When you get two brain cells that actually talk to one another, come back and see us.


Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on December 30, 2018, 11:48:42 PM



THANK YOU!  I love clear minded people on here.  RARE...from what I see.   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

That's because you have most of us on ignore. 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on December 30, 2018, 11:49:03 PM
Bullshit @Hoodat  I responded to a post blaming the President for not keeping the Republican caucus together.  I explained why this was impossible.  And I don't give a furry rat's ass if you don't like the truth.


Agree.  It will be, sad, sad, day when TRUMPS,  8 year term is up.  He still has accomplished more in 2 years, than other presidents in their 8 year terms.  ANY OF THEM.  What is not to love?  In spite of all the senseless opposition, he still is the greatest yet!  PAUL RYAN?  PAID BY SOROS, same with McCain, Jeb Bush, Kasich, more,  etc. 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 31, 2018, 08:15:50 AM
Don't put this bullshit on the President @libertybele   The problem in the House was NT Ryan and his refusal to bring legislation to the floor for a vote.  It was Ryan for his making unnecessary compromises.  It was Ryan for telling the President and us that he's going full out obstructionist because he's keeping the Speakership even though he's retiring and doesn't have to answer to the voters--or anyone-- again.

Nearly forty members of the Republican caucus in the House chose retirement en masse ... greasing the wheels for a flip in the House.  We can log this as Ryan's most significant victory.

On the Senate side our majority was cut in half by McCain, the high priest of NTs, refusing to retire and allow an actively voting Senator to replace him.  We lost the seat in Alabama because conservatives insisted on nominating a candidate--against the wishes and endorsement of the President-- who had two statewide defeats already under his belt.  When the pedophile charges hit, he didn't have the depth of support needed to withstand them.  But we got to argue morality for a few months, so I guess losing the seat was worth it.

Murkowski and Collins were reliable "no" votes who delighted in being the outliers and morally superior; and Flake--another one who removed himself from vooter outrage---stayed up nights too excited to sleep knowing he was going to stop the President.  It didn't matter that he was also stopping his pro-America agenda, he was stopping the man.

By and large Republicans don't suck.  Republican NTs do.  What we're now witnessing is the Republican NT chickens coming home to roost.   Aim your anger at them.  They've earned it.


...hmmm.... I wonder what part of 'failed leadership' in both Houses you're not comprehending??  Sorry @Right_in_Virginia but I find it laughable that you got your panties in a bunch because I dared to lay some blame on the President.

Last time I checked, Trump called in the media circus knowing full well that Chuckie and Nancy weren't going to budge.  Why would they?  ALL knew that the new Congress would be sworn in, in just a few short days.  So .... why would they budge knowing that the House bill was DOA in the current Senate and new DEM House? 

If you want to continue to allow the politicians and our president to play the blame game go for it.  He can blame the DEMS all he wants, but at the end of the day, what difference does it make? Why didn't Trump play this hand last year and stay strong? The only people it matters to is the GOP voting base.  The DEMS are happy that their leadership has stood strong ...NO wall. Their voting base is happy.  They won this one.  The American people and especially Trump supporters lost BIGLY on this one. Most realized that the Senate was never going to budge.  The narcissistic side of Trump took over and he failed. 

Meanwhile we have Kelly even disputing that Trump's intent is not to build a concrete "WALL" but rather steel slats that can be seen through!  Last time I heard, Trump proclaimed he was going to build a wall similar to the one in Israel ... so the contradictions and back pedaling from Trump continues ... one thing I don't like about the man.  What he says and what he does are often two different things.

Yes, I give him credit when credit is due, but I'll be darned if I give him a free pass, especially on the very issue he campaigned on; the WALL!!!
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 31, 2018, 08:22:36 AM

Agree.  It will be, sad, sad, day when TRUMPS,  8 year term is up.  He still has accomplished more in 2 years, than other presidents in their 8 year terms.  ANY OF THEM.  What is not to love?  In spite of all the senseless opposition, he still is the greatest yet!  PAUL RYAN?  PAID BY SOROS, same with McCain, Jeb Bush, Kasich, more,  etc.

No one is patting the RINO's on the back here; especially, McCain, Jeb or Kasich.  They are RINO's.  Trump has done some good for this country and he has tried to turn America around and put her on a positive path.  I am not denying that.

His willingness several months ago to hand the DEMS amnesty for DACA IS unacceptable and he has FAILED to deliver on the WALL, the very issue that handed him the presidency.  IF he was so intent on the wall, that should have been priority since day one and not waiting till the eleventh hour when he knew a bill would never pass the Senate and would be DOA in the next Congress and call in the media to make it a circus for all to view.

IF the wall gets built and we have no asylum, no DACA and no amnesty (all part of his campaign promise) then I will be the very first one to praise this President as the best ever.  Until then, I refuse to give him a free pass. The sovereignty of our country IS at stake.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 31, 2018, 08:28:54 AM

...hmmm.... I wonder what part of 'failed leadership' in both Houses you're not comprehending??  Sorry @Right_in_Virginia but I find it laughable that you got your panties in a bunch because I dared to lay some blame on the President.   

....hmmm @libertybele here's what got my panties in a bunch. This is what I was addressing, not the rest of the babble.

Exactly.  FAILED leadership is responsible in BOTH the House and the Senate for the past 4 years. My complaint with Trump is his inability to reign in members of his own party.   

I do hope my reply to you in post 38 explained the error of your ways.  Let me know if anything remains unclear and I'll do my best to help you.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 31, 2018, 08:48:47 AM
....hmmm @libertybele here's what got my panties in a bunch. This is what I was addressing, not the rest of the babble.

I do hope my reply to you in post 38 explained the error of your ways.  Let me know if anything remains unclear and I'll do my best to help you.

Cute, @Right_in_Virginia  but, I definitely don't need your help.  You are willing to give Trump a free pass on amnesty and DACA and NO wall.  I am not.  It's as simple as that.  Error in my ways? Too funny!  I refuse to compromise when it comes to the WALL and the sovereignty of this country.  There is NO compromise on those issues.  None.  No free pass for Trump on these issues.  None.

So ... I do hope my reply is crystal clear.  If not, I can't help you any further.

Secondly, it may do you some good to draw in your claws; they aren't becoming and starts to make a honest rebuttal look like a school yard bully fight.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 31, 2018, 08:51:29 AM
Cute, @Right_in_Virginia  but, I definitely don't need your help.  You are willing to give Trump a free pass on amnesty and DACA and NO wall.

You must know by now @libertybele that I do not react to every rumor and spin posted here.  This is one of them.

But you appear to love it ... so work yourself up.  I'll wait until I see the deal.

Enjoy your day.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 31, 2018, 09:01:08 AM
You must know by now @libertybele that I do not react to every rumor and spin posted here.  This is one of them.

But you appear to love it ... so work yourself up.  I'll wait until I see the deal.

Enjoy your day.

@Right_in_Virginia Trump's willingness to offer DEMS amnesty for the recent DACA dispute is something that you refuse to accept.  I have posted several links, and it was reported by many news sources.  If you refuse to open your eyes, that's on you.

The only one in here that has gotten worked up is you!!  Take a deep breath.  Pour yourself a cup of coffee and go out and smell the roses.  Your day might just look a little brighter.  Peace.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Restored on December 31, 2018, 10:15:54 AM
Let's look at facts:

1. The Continuation Bill is awaiting the Senate to return to Washington. Trump cannot open the government.
2. Trump cannot build a wall. It requires Congressional approval for the money.
3. The Democrats voted against keeping the government open.

Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on December 31, 2018, 11:59:12 AM
....hmmm @libertybele here's what got my panties in a bunch. This is what I was addressing, not the rest of the babble.

I do hope my reply to you in post 38 explained the error of your ways.  Let me know if anything remains unclear and I'll do my best to help you.


On behalf of those of us who still believe in our Constitutional right to criticize government, switch to cotton.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 31, 2018, 12:02:54 PM
Let's look at facts:

1. The Continuation Bill is awaiting the Senate to return to Washington. Trump cannot open the government.
2. Trump cannot build a wall. It requires Congressional approval for the money.
3. The Democrats voted against keeping the government open.

The other fact is the new Congress will be sworn in on January 3rd, which will make the House bill null and void.  Perhaps there will be a vote either on the 1st (if they reconvene) or the 2nd, but I'm not holding my breath nor am I holding my breath that there will be enough votes in the Senate.

Horse and pony show as usual in Washington.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 31, 2018, 02:12:08 PM
@Right_in_Virginia Trump's willingness to offer DEMS amnesty for the recent DACA dispute is something that you refuse to accept. 

I'm still waiting to hear the deal from the President himself --- after he's met with the demonrats.  DACA may be part of it …. but I want to know specifics and what else may be in the deal.  @libertybele

I hope now you better understand why I think Republican/Conservative NTs are a plague on our national security.  They brought America to this point.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Chosen Daughter on December 31, 2018, 02:23:58 PM
I'm still waiting to hear the deal from the President himself --- after he's met with the demonrats.  DACA may be part of it …. but I want to know specifics and what else may be in the deal.  @libertybele

I hope now you better understand why I think Republican/Conservative NTs are a plague on our national security.  They brought America to this point.

No, Trump himself is the plague.  You know what is funny?  That Lindsey Graham obviously and openly opposes Trump but people like you hang on Grahams every word.  Lindsey Graham goes around with his little press conferences telling everyone how he is correcting Trumps ill informed ways.  Its OK with you right?  Its Lindsey Graham at the head of the opposition to immigration and always has been.  But Trump keeps him at his side like a loyal dog.  Graham is in there every day pushing the president to except his amnesty and nothing from you about it.

Graham just majorly opposed Trump in the Syria pull out.  I actually think he is probably right, but he made the President sound like a nut.  And he made himself sound like the savior that went in with his General to talk some sense into the nut President.

That really is funny because if any other Senator was to question Trump policy they would be targets for Trump.  He would be working diligently to make sure their names were shouted at rallies as evil NTers.  He would be working to destroy their career and assure that they never get elected again.  But free pass for Lindsey Graham.

Trump isn't running this country.  He makes messes and others clean up.  Kushner, Ivanka, Mulvaney and Graham are running the country.  Trump makes statements and takes them back after others correct him.

Sessions was the best thing going in the Trump administration.  He was working on crime and illegal immigration.  What has happened at the DOJ since he left?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 31, 2018, 02:46:01 PM
No, Trump himself is the plague.  …/ 

You are wrong @Chosen Daughter  Without this man we would not even be talking about a wall … never mind fighting for one.

I've eliminated the rest of your post because it's just more of your hatred spam and it, quite frankly, sickens me.  I wish I could end this year on a good note with you, but that's just not in the cards.   

No need to respond.  I won't read it. 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Chosen Daughter on December 31, 2018, 02:59:15 PM
You are wrong @Chosen Daughter  Without this man we would not even be talking about a wall … never mind fighting for one.

I've eliminated the rest of your post because it's just more of your hatred spam and it, quite frankly, sickens me.  I wish I could end this year on a good note with you, but that's just not in the cards.   

No need to respond.  I won't read it.

Its OK, you don't need to read it.

Talk is cheap.  Talk is how Trump got elected.  It worked for him and I will give him praise when it starts working for us.  For America and her security.  For the American people that did vote for him according to all that talking he did.

And again...Sessions was working on the campaign promises that Trump had given America.  But it had to be about recusing himself.  All about Trump.  Mind you that Lindsey Graham advised Jeff Sessions to recuse himself.

I am not hateful.  Just mad that this country is being taken over by Mexico, their cartels and Central American gangs.  I am sorry but patching fences isn't going to keep them out.  A new bigger caravan upwards of 15,000 on their way and Trump is reducing border wall funding to 2.1 billion.  Not going to finish anything.  At best a few miles here and there.  Or fence patching which is literally what we have been doing.  December shows that they are still getting in at record numbers.

Its very simple.  5.6 to 2.1 says not serious.  Border security not important to the President.

 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 31, 2018, 03:48:15 PM
Its OK, you don't need to read it.

Talk is cheap.  Talk is how Trump got elected.  It worked for him and I will give him praise when it starts working for us.  For America and her security.  For the American people that did vote for him according to all that talking he did.

And again...Sessions was working on the campaign promises that Trump had given America.  But it had to be about recusing himself.  All about Trump.  Mind you that Lindsey Graham advised Jeff Sessions to recuse himself.

I am not hateful.  Just mad that this country is being taken over by Mexico, their cartels and Central American gangs.  I am sorry but patching fences isn't going to keep them out.  A new bigger caravan upwards of 15,000 on their way and Trump is reducing border wall funding to 2.1 billion.  Not going to finish anything.  At best a few miles here and there.  Or fence patching which is literally what we have been doing.  December shows that they are still getting in at record numbers.

Its very simple.  5.6 to 2.1 says not serious.  Border security not important to the President.

Thank you @Chosen Daughter for pointing out the reality of our situation.  Some of the people in the last caravan mob who came to our borders are still waiting for asylum.  No fence would change that situation.  In all fairness Trump did try to strengthen our asylum laws but that change was short lived because of a liberal judge.

You are correct though, Trump accepting a reduction in money for the wall is indicative of what's to come with a new DEM majority in the House. 

Border security/wall is what got him elected and for him to soften or backpedal in any way is not acceptable and I fully question the integrity of that promise and I also question the judgment of those people who are willing to give him a free pass on this issue. His willingness to bend on the wall is alarming.  He willingness to once again consider granting amnesty is equally alarming.

Those issues in my books are NOT negotiable.  Stats have shown that we have more illegals crossing over into this country than under Bammy.  Why is that? Here is the president that has promised NO amnesty and a WALL and to stop illegal immigration and here we sit.  When the sheer number of illegals and those granted asylum and refugee status outnumber the voting GOP populace, then those who gave him a free pass will be shaking their heads wondering what happened?  When gang violence gets so out of control that attacks on citizens become more commonplace, they will be the first ones to demand something be done. Also, the drug cartel has increased their presence in this country and the opioid crisis is now an epidemic  to such a point that the average life expectancy in this country is now lower.  Yet, his followers are still willing to give him a free pass.

Those who continue to glorify this man ARE responsible for what happens to this country as a result of his actions in the past, present and future.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Chosen Daughter on December 31, 2018, 04:10:55 PM
Thank you @Chosen Daughter for pointing out the reality of our situation.  Some of the people in the last caravan mob who came to our borders are still waiting for asylum.  No fence would change that situation.  In all fairness Trump did try to strengthen our asylum laws but that change was short lived because of a liberal judge.

You are correct though, Trump accepting a reduction in money for the wall is indicative of what's to come with a new DEM majority in the House. 

Border security/wall is what got him elected and for him to soften or backpedal in any way is not acceptable and I fully question the integrity of that promise and I also question the judgment of those people who are willing to give him a free pass on this issue. His willingness to bend on the wall is alarming.  He willingness to once again consider granting amnesty is equally alarming.

Those issues in my books are NOT negotiable.  Stats have shown that we have more illegals crossing over into this country than under Bammy.  Why is that? Here is the president that has promised NO amnesty and a WALL and to stop illegal immigration and here we sit.  When the sheer number of illegals and those granted asylum and refugee status outnumber the voting GOP populace, then those who gave him a free pass will be shaking their heads wondering what happened?  When gang violence gets so out of control that attacks on citizens become more commonplace, they will be the first ones to demand something be done. Also, the drug cartel has increased their presence in this country and the opioid crisis is now an epidemic  to such a point that the average life expectancy in this country is now lower.  Yet, his followers are still willing to give him a free pass.

Those who continue to glorify this man ARE responsible for what happens to this country as a result of his actions in the past, present and future.

Agree, and thank you.

Drug Cartel and their criminal business had been increasing since the early 2000's.  I posted an article in the immigration section where a child in LA was describing how most of his friends are dead or in gangs.  Our prison data from our very own DOJ tells the story about Federal crime and illegal immigration.  It is only one part of a whole of ills caused by illegal immigration.  The cost to taxpayers who have to flip the bill for incarceration, food, housing, medical, dental and education for children of illegal immigrants.  We are suffocating from the affects of open borders.  We can look forward in the very near future to the same way of life that these immigrants claim they are leaving.

I sincerely do feel for the workers and their families of this Federal shutdown.  But the scope is much bigger, much wider.  It is about the country and its future.  I have said that Trump should take this shutdown and ask for all of it.  Every bit needed to complete the wall.  Whether it is 26 billion or 40.  It will all come back because we have rock solid data showing the cost of illegal immigration.  If Trump cares about our children and their future he will up the request, not lower it.  He will see to it that our border is secured. 

Democrats have already announced the first order of business for the new Congress.  Bill including border security.  1.3 billion I think was the figure I read for fixing fencing.

A ship tossed to and fro is not a steady ship.

I found the article.  Sad that this is California, but selfish liberal politicians could care less what is happening in their state.  In fact the entire Pacific Northwest.  I wonder too, how can we take people into LA on an asylum request when we throw them right into the MS-13 trap?  Escape from what?

https://www.city-journal.org/html/immigrant-gang-plague-12801.html (https://www.city-journal.org/html/immigrant-gang-plague-12801.html)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: truth_seeker on December 31, 2018, 04:21:01 PM
Let's look at facts:

1. The Continuation Bill is awaiting the Senate to return to Washington. Trump cannot open the government.
2. Trump cannot build a wall. It requires Congressional approval for the money.
3. The Democrats voted against keeping the government open.

Trump is not a dictator, and cannot even do things he campaigned for and wants to do.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on December 31, 2018, 04:26:02 PM
Trump is not a dictator, and cannot even do things he campaigned for and wants to do.

Very true. I’ve noticed how the most rabid trump voters wanted a Republican Obama that used a phone and a pen for their own agenda.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Emjay on December 31, 2018, 04:31:30 PM
    Last week his Administration announced they were sending $B's to Mexico and Central America.  Yesterday he says he's "thinking" of withholding already approved funds to said Countries.  It's becoming hard to keep up with the day to day rhetoric.
   Kinda like the Chinese telecom companies spying on everything, one week he advocates for them, the next he's cursing them. 
   I am becoming more disillusioned by the day with this Administration (if that is even possible), realizing he is my ONLY Hope right now is becoming increasingly depressing with each passing week.

Cheer up, @corbe   Do what I do.  I concentrate on what Trump actually does.  He doesn't think before he speaks sometimes but he does think before he acts.

I like that he brings a new perspective ... like thinking out of the popcorn box.  How long have we tried to police the Middle East? And to what end?  But he's the first to actually pull out.

His policies have been good for the economy.

And we do need to get control of illegal immigration.  Not just people but drugs flowing through.

I'm glad he's standing firm on this. 

And, you might just as well learn to love him because the democrats have no one who can beat him.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: berdie on December 31, 2018, 07:23:36 PM
The newscast with Pelosi and Schumer was entertaining and good for popcorn sales.  Nice way to put them on the record.  But it also insured no deal would be made. 

I'll be surprised if Trump doesn't back down in some way.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Emjay on December 31, 2018, 08:06:57 PM
The newscast with Pelosi and Schumer was entertaining and good for popcorn sales.  Nice way to put them on the record.  But it also insured no deal would be made. 

I'll be surprised if Trump doesn't back down in some way.

Politics in a country as divided as we are now on basic issues will always consist of give and take.

Trump will only back down if he sees an advantage in doing so.

I am constantly disheartened by otherwise normal people who do not see that Trump is trying as hard as it is possible for a guy to do to keep his promises.  He is not a dictator and he's done so much.

Passionate anti-illegal immigration people like @libertybele and @Chosen Daughter are continually sniping at him because he can't seem to wave a magic wand, without the slightest appreciation for how hard he is working on this issue.

Sometimes I wonder if we even deserve a good President.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: berdie on December 31, 2018, 08:47:20 PM
Politics in a country as divided as we are now on basic issues will always consist of give and take.

Trump will only back down if he sees an advantage in doing so.

I am constantly disheartened by otherwise normal people who do not see that Trump is trying as hard as it is possible for a guy to do to keep his promises.  He is not a dictator and he's done so much.

Passionate anti-illegal immigration people like @libertybele and @Chosen Daughter are continually sniping at him because he can't seem to wave a magic wand, without the slightest appreciation for how hard he is working on this issue.




I am a normal person and see that Trump is working hard on this issue.  But I'm not sure about the way he goes about the "Art Of The Deal" in the situation he is in.  I have been a business that I had to negotiate for a good outcome.  I would not have taken this route.  But that's just me.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on December 31, 2018, 09:33:36 PM
Politics in a country as divided as we are now on basic issues will always consist of give and take.

Trump will only back down if he sees an advantage in doing so.

I am constantly disheartened by otherwise normal people who do not see that Trump is trying as hard as it is possible for a guy to do to keep his promises.  He is not a dictator and he's done so much.

Passionate anti-illegal immigration people like @libertybele and @Chosen Daughter are continually sniping at him because he can't seem to wave a magic wand, without the slightest appreciation for how hard he is working on this issue.




I am a normal person and see that Trump is working hard on this issue.  But I'm not sure about the way he goes about the "Art Of The Deal" in the situation he is in.  I have been a business that I had to negotiate for a good outcome.  I would not have taken this route.  But that's just me.

@berdie not continually sniping at him, but rather pointing out the fact that his attempt to get a border wall was made at the very last hours before a new Congress would be sworn in. Certainly he must have known that Schumer wouldn't budge, why would he?  Schumer knew that Trump didn't have the votes in the Senate.  Trump also must have known that within days the new Congress would be sworn in; voiding the House bill.  So ... my question is ... why create the media circus? 

Trump promised a wall, yet he waits until the odds are unfavorable in getting funding to make a hard push.  WHY?  Why toy with the American people?  Schumer laughed in his face and Nancy flat out told him, he wasn't going to win this.

Does anyone think that the Senate will reconvene tomorrow or Wednesday and the vote will pass in the Senate before Thursday when the new Congress is sworn in? 

Even the Turtle didn't want to shut down the government ... what does that tell you?  So what the DEMS get the blame for the shutdown.? Who cares? ... all that matters is there still is no $$ for the wall!

Meanwhile...there are reports of a new caravan of appx. 15,000 heading our way.  Perhaps the new DEM majority in the House led by Pelosi will give Trump $$.  Anyone really think that's going to happen? 

Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Emjay on December 31, 2018, 10:44:38 PM
@berdie not continually sniping at him, but rather pointing out the fact that his attempt to get a border wall was made at the very last hours before a new Congress would be sworn in. Certainly he must have known that Schumer wouldn't budge, why would he?  Schumer knew that Trump didn't have the votes in the Senate.  Trump also must have known that within days the new Congress would be sworn in; voiding the House bill.  So ... my question is ... why create the media circus? 

Trump promised a wall, yet he waits until the odds are unfavorable in getting funding to make a hard push.  WHY?  Why toy with the American people?  Schumer laughed in his face and Nancy flat out told him, he wasn't going to win this.

Does anyone think that the Senate will reconvene tomorrow or Wednesday and the vote will pass in the Senate before Thursday when the new Congress is sworn in? 

Even the Turtle didn't want to shut down the government ... what does that tell you?  So what the DEMS get the blame for the shutdown.? Who cares? ... all that matters is there still is no $$ for the wall!

Meanwhile...there are reports of a new caravan of appx. 15,000 heading our way.  Perhaps the new DEM majority in the House led by Pelosi will give Trump $$.  Anyone really think that's going to happen?

That is a total misrepresentation of the situation.  Trump did not wait until it was impossible to get a deal.  He's been working for one for two years.  I wish you could get a glimpse of what it would be like to have a President who didn't give a shoot about this issue.

You are fighting the one big ally we have in this fight.  That is not smart.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Axeslinger on January 01, 2019, 09:44:54 PM
I copied this, as I've had this person on ignore for MONTHS, and do not read any posts of theirs, unless some copied them. Like now. I am not even talking to or replying to this person, Axeslinger,  EVER.  HOW CRAZY IS THAT?  If YOU feel convicted somehow, that is NOT ON ME. However YOUR POST, addressing me is, PERSONAL NAME CALLING and uncalled for.  Why are volunteering to be one of the LOW I.Q. people?  Point made. Nasty, nasty.  Must be true or else you would not post about me. Everything I say is true. I have earned the wisdom of age.  Now you will start bashing me for THAT.  YOU TALK LIKE THIS TO YOUR GRANDMA?

@LegalAmerican
Good I’m glad you have me on ignore because I’m going to continue to call you out for your ridiculous bullshit.
I will not accept a damn foreigner telling me ad nauseum that she thinks she knows what “real Americans” should do just because she wants to be the next on line to be one of trumps side pieces.
You have earned the wisdom of nothing.  You demonstrate over and over that you are incapable of independent thought and are solely capable of regurgitating the latest conspiracy theory du jour.  You are a drooling sycophant who doesn’t know her ass from a hole in the ground. Go post your ridiculous conspiracy theory nonsense elsewhere. And finally, my Grandma taught me to not suffer fools, and you my dear, are truly one of the biggest  brain dead fools I have ever encountered.  Here’s a little tip for you, dear:   Just because you read it on the Internet doesn’t mean it’s true.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 01, 2019, 09:53:54 PM
@LegalAmerican
Good I’m glad you have me on ignore because I’m going to continue to call you out for your ridiculous bullshit.
I will not accept a damn foreigner telling me ad nauseum that she thinks she knows what “real Americans” should do just because she wants to be the next on line to be one of trumps side pieces.
You have earned the wisdom of nothing.  You demonstrate over and over that you are incapable of independent thought and are solely capable of regurgitating the latest conspiracy theory du jour.  You are a drooling sycophant who doesn’t know her ass from a hole in the ground. Go post your ridiculous conspiracy theory nonsense elsewhere. And finally, my Grandma taught me to not suffer fools, and you my dear, are truly one of the biggest  brain dead fools I have ever encountered.  Here’s a little tip for you, dear:   Just because you read it on the Internet doesn’t mean it’s true.

Sweet mother of mercy. THIS! A million times, THIS!
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on January 01, 2019, 11:10:27 PM
That is a total misrepresentation of the situation.  Trump did not wait until it was impossible to get a deal.  He's been working for one for two years.  I wish you could get a glimpse of what it would be like to have a President who didn't give a shoot about this issue.

You are fighting the one big ally we have in this fight.  That is not smart.

Good grief!  I'm not fighting Trump in any way nor I am not misrepresenting the situation.  Trump had a majority for 2 years and in the time he should have worked within that majority to get a wall.  Now, when the GOP has lost the House majority, he decides to play hardball.  Come on. 

The Secure Fence Act was passed by BOTH houses in 2006 during 'W's term ... not fully funded ... Bammy became president ... we all know the history so I really don't think the relevancy of past presidents bares any credence to the situation at hand. That's in the past and what's done is done.  We can't go backwards. What matters is NOW under Trump.  He's the president  and could of, would have, should have under another president to me is meaningless.

Trump grandstanded, created a media circus in the 11th hour and if you want to give him a free pass on this go for it.  I don't.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 07, 2019, 12:22:56 AM
Politics in a country as divided as we are now on basic issues will always consist of give and take.

Trump will only back down if he sees an advantage in doing so.

I am constantly disheartened by otherwise normal people who do not see that Trump is trying as hard as it is possible for a guy to do to keep his promises.  He is not a dictator and he's done so much.

Passionate anti-illegal immigration people like @libertybele and @Chosen Daughter are continually sniping at him because he can't seem to wave a magic wand, without the slightest appreciation for how hard he is working on this issue.

Sometimes I wonder if we even deserve a good President.


I totally agree as it is the truth!  He does this all for NO PAY!  Verbal abuse, lies, constantly...for NO PAY. 

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Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 07, 2019, 12:26:41 AM
That is a total misrepresentation of the situation.  Trump did not wait until it was impossible to get a deal.  He's been working for one for two years.  I wish you could get a glimpse of what it would be like to have a President who didn't give a shoot about this issue.

You are fighting the one big ally we have in this fight.  That is not smart.


Of course, "they" are not smart, then offended when,  it is pointed out to them. Mostly, I don't address any of them, and just post in my general spot. The quick reply.  They still get upset!   
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Night Hides Not on January 07, 2019, 01:35:40 AM
That is a total misrepresentation of the situation.  Trump did not wait until it was impossible to get a deal.  He's been working for one for two years.  I wish you could get a glimpse of what it would be like to have a President who didn't give a shoot about this issue.

You are fighting the one big ally we have in this fight.  That is not smart.

President "Art of the Deal" has been working on a deal for the fence for two years? He had a majority in the House and Senate during his first two years, and couldn't get them to pony up a measly $5 billion for his wall.

The wall was his signature issue when he ran for President, and now he's painted himself into a corner. He has also been poorly served by his staff, who should have put together a game plan to achieve his signature issue. Instead of cultivating allies, and expanding his base of support, he's turned off many potential supporters by his irascible and mercurial style. The chaos by which he governs has stolen a significant amount of energy by creating constant turnover among his key advisors.

And while his core supporters egg him on, chortling and cheering over the financial distress of countless lower to middle grade federal employees, there are millions that will say "a pox on both houses", and tune out the soap opera in the nation's capital.

There's a lesson I learned while in the Army: you can mess with me all you want, but don't mess with my pay. There's roughly 800,000 out there whose pay is being messed with, and the collateral damage will soon be apparent. Restaurants and other providers of goods and services to these 800,000 are starting to feel the pinch.

O/T, but I recommend that you read the novel Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. The author does an exceptional job of laying out the consequences of inaction and poor decisions. It can be a difficult novel to read, as most people are scared away from its 1100 plus pages.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: aligncare on January 07, 2019, 06:36:23 AM
I'm still waiting to hear the deal from the President himself --- after he's met with the demonrats.  DACA may be part of it …. but I want to know specifics and what else may be in the deal.  @libertybele

I hope now you better understand why I think Republican/Conservative NTs are a plague on our national security.  They brought America to this point.

We always know what to expect from democrats – after all, they are democrats...and too many of them are NWO proto-communists.

But, to see Republican and conservative NeverTrumpers falling in line with fake news and democrat attacks on our republican president, is sickening.

The congress had two-years of total control and if the president doesn’t get the wall, it’s on them, the turncoat Republican and conservative NeverTrumpers.

Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 07, 2019, 06:49:47 AM
It can be a difficult novel to read, as most people are scared away from its 1100 plus pages.

Once you get through the first 450 pages, it's smooth sailing.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Night Hides Not on January 07, 2019, 09:03:15 AM
Once you get through the first 450 pages, it's smooth sailing.

Frederick Forsythe is like that, too. He takes the first couple hundred pages to set the stage. After reading a couple of his novels I knew exactly where to stop, because if I didn't, I was going to be up all night until I finished the novel.

Set aside Rand's philosophy of objectivism, she does a remarkable job of developing characters. Francisco d'Anconia's money speech in the chapter "The Aristocracy of Pull" is must reading. If that's not the DC/Beltway way of life today, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: sneakypete on January 07, 2019, 09:20:06 AM
As I stated in another post, this is nothing but a Trump/GOP horse and pony show!  Trump will be a one term president. We will see a DEM seated in the oval office in 2020...bye-bye GOP.

Was this the game from the very beginning?  Trump and all the liberals and RINO's ensuring that a conservative didn't win the oval office? 

@libertybele

WHAT conservative? The alleged Republican Party hates conservatives and has no room for one.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: sneakypete on January 07, 2019, 09:24:20 AM
And the whole time trump tweeted nasty things about them. I’m sure name calling those whom you need to make a deal is an entire chapter in The Art of the Deal.

@goodwithagun

Sooooo,now it's TRUMPS fault the RINO's are working with their Dim brothers to destroy America?

Want to see someone working to destroy America? Look in a mirror.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: sneakypete on January 07, 2019, 09:27:59 AM
(All apologies to @mystery-ak ...really, truly...my apologies but I just can’t help myself on this one.)


 
Quote
When you get two brain cells that actually talk to one another, come back and see us.

@Axeslinger

Says a rabid anti-Trumper.

Miss the good old days of Boy Jorge?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 07, 2019, 09:43:22 AM
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Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwMZEHrV4AEvW9d.jpg)

6:15 PM - 5 Jan 2019

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1081735898679701505
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: verga on January 07, 2019, 11:28:02 AM
Why would anyone want a DEMON-RAT  for president?  Low I.Q. thinking.  More accomplished by president in 18 months, than any prior president. in 8 years!  It will take a bit of time for business's to come BACK to America. Demon-rats have made sure, they ALL LEFT.  How can any SANE PERSON, want anyone else in 2020?  It boggles the mind. Yes, US-MCA. New trade deal. It was always the intent of tariffs paying for the wall, that some think a HAND WRITTEN CHECK would be presented by mexico for the wall is LUNACY at its height!  A check, that says FOR THE WALL.  lol 

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Because they are so hate filled. My nephew was in the Navy for 10 years. On the day after the election the little shit got on FB and wanted a Spec Ops guy to take Trump out. I told him he was lucky not to get an Article 32. He kept claiming that Trump was a racist and had insulted his wife. I asked him in which speech he had specifically mentioned my niece's name. he had no response.
As soon as his enlistment ended he got out.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: verga on January 07, 2019, 11:44:45 AM
Thank you! Trump isn't perfect. Trump has made mistakes. But let's not get distracted by the shiny, spinning disco ball and ignore the fact that Congress has been worthless these last two years.

If we're actually constitutionalists and conservatives, then if blame is to be spread, we need to recognize that the leaders of the separate-but-equal legislative branch of govt are just as culpable.
I actually blame the congress critters more. When Obozo was President they kept having those sham votes to repeal Obozo care. They should have had a bill written and waiting on Trump's desk January 20th. Instead they forced him to use Executive orders.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Emjay on January 07, 2019, 12:42:19 PM
President "Art of the Deal" has been working on a deal for the fence for two years? He had a majority in the House and Senate during his first two years, and couldn't get them to pony up a measly $5 billion for his wall.

The wall was his signature issue when he ran for President, and now he's painted himself into a corner. He has also been poorly served by his staff, who should have put together a game plan to achieve his signature issue. Instead of cultivating allies, and expanding his base of support, he's turned off many potential supporters by his irascible and mercurial style. The chaos by which he governs has stolen a significant amount of energy by creating constant turnover among his key advisors.

And while his core supporters egg him on, chortling and cheering over the financial distress of countless lower to middle grade federal employees, there are millions that will say "a pox on both houses", and tune out the soap opera in the nation's capital.

There's a lesson I learned while in the Army: you can mess with me all you want, but don't mess with my pay. There's roughly 800,000 out there whose pay is being messed with, and the collateral damage will soon be apparent. Restaurants and other providers of goods and services to these 800,000 are starting to feel the pinch.

O/T, but I recommend that you read the novel Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. The author does an exceptional job of laying out the consequences of inaction and poor decisions. It can be a difficult novel to read, as most people are scared away from its 1100 plus pages.

Key words in your post "The President has been working on a deal for the wall for two years."

Yes, he has and he is our only President to make an issue of this vital problem for our country.

But all the NTers do is focus on the fact that he hasn't been able to accomplish it yet and ignore all the roadblocks he has faced.

He's faced two years in which his Republican majority in the House and Senate could not get their act together and work with him on the issue.  Just when the Senate is slowly beginning to come around, he lost the House though by a far smaller percentage than most presidents mid-term.

The American people overwhelmingly want border safety.

I am not cheering over the loss of pay for government workers but those people are assured of receiving their back pay eventually and can probably get loans to tide them based on that.  On the other hand, unemployment is at a record low level and many people ARE getting paychecks who were not before Trump's economy.

I read Atlas Shrugged and I am not slogging through that opus again.  I know she is worshipped by some but not by me.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: sneakypete on January 07, 2019, 12:57:46 PM
Key words in your post "The President has been working on a deal for the wall for two years."

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Yes, he has and he is our only President to make an issue of this vital problem for our country.

But all the NTers do is focus on the fact that he hasn't been able to accomplish it yet and ignore all the roadblocks he has faced.

@Emjay

Not true! The males and alleged males are getting wood at the thought of Trump failing. They would rather see Jesse Jackson as President than a "outsider" that doesn't owe loyalty to the RINO Party and who can't be blackmailed into following orders. These Party Pod People are professional victims,and the whole idea of a President that won office as a Republican can get things done is the most terrifying thing they have ever heard of because it means they might lose their professional victim status.


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The American people overwhelmingly want border safety.

Yeah,but nobody important cares about stuff like that because there would be a net loss of government contracts and civil service jobs.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 07, 2019, 01:06:23 PM
   Jesse Jackson, really @sneakypete that's a stretch. 
   There are only two people that I would ever consider for POTUS (at this time), Sen. Lee or Cruz.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: sneakypete on January 07, 2019, 01:10:26 PM
   Jesse Jackson, really @sneakypete that's a stretch. 
   

@corbe

Not really. If a Presidential election were to boil down to a choice between JJ and Trump,they would vote for JJ. They know they can do bidnez with him.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 07, 2019, 06:24:42 PM
@corbe

Not really. If a Presidential election were to boil down to a choice between JJ and Trump,they would vote for JJ. They know they can do bidnez with him.

Or they might vote for a third person - someone more Conservative than either.

Likewise, just because a person is not AT does not make that person NT.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 07, 2019, 09:01:55 PM
@goodwithagun

Sooooo,now it's TRUMPS fault the RINO's are working with their Dim brothers to destroy America?

Want to see someone working to destroy America? Look in a mirror.

I can’t, I’m a vampire.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Axeslinger on January 07, 2019, 09:19:01 PM


@Axeslinger

Says a rabid anti-Trumper.

Miss the good old days of Boy Jorge?

@sneakypete

In the most friendly way possible, I’d kindly suggest you go read my posting history before you embarrass yourself in that vein...especially in defense of that particular nut job.  For every criticism of trump, you’ll find comments where i give him props. What you’ll find is me lambasting the kool-aid drinkers for their lack of intellectual honesty...over and over and over.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 07, 2019, 09:23:50 PM
   Sure, @Axeslinger we'll accept that your not a Boy Jorge Lover but it's obvious to all of us that you support the Rainbow Push and Jesse Jackson, come clean and admit it.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Night Hides Not on January 07, 2019, 09:30:20 PM
   Sure, @Axeslinger we'll accept that your not a Boy Jorge Lover but it's obvious to all of us that you support the Rainbow Push and Jesse Jackson, come clean and admit it.

Since I didn’t vote for Trump either, it can obviously be inferred that I would prefer Jesse or Hillary in the White House...that’s Trumper logic, of course.   :thud:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Axeslinger on January 07, 2019, 09:36:29 PM
   Sure, @Axeslinger we'll accept that your not a Boy Jorge Lover but it's obvious to all of us that you support the Rainbow Push and Jesse Jackson, come clean and admit it.

@corbe

Wait...what the hell just happened?

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 07, 2019, 09:47:03 PM
    There's been rumours that you don't like Trump as much as some here so it's obvious that you must be a JJ'er.  That's the going narrative, anyway.  Had you been an AS supporter (Al Sharpton), we'd forgive your transgressions.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 07, 2019, 10:24:26 PM
Since I didn’t vote for Trump either, it can obviously be inferred that I would prefer Jesse or Hillary in the White House...that’s Trumper logic, of course.   :thud:

No, you’re perfectly safe. If not voting for trump is voting for Hilary, then not voting for Hillary is a vote for trump. Just use their “logic” against them, but make sure you have proper protection. It’s super messy when their heads explode.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: sneakypete on January 08, 2019, 02:36:40 AM
    There's been rumours that you don't like Trump as much as some here so it's obvious that you must be a JJ'er.  That's the going narrative, anyway.  Had you been an AS supporter (Al Sharpton), we'd forgive your transgressions.

@corbe

If there are here,you started them with your editorializing.

What I wrote IMPLIED that the rabid NT's would rather heave Jesse Jackson in the WH than Trump.

Deal with it.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: jpsb on January 08, 2019, 04:55:20 AM
@libertybele

WHAT conservative? The alleged Republican Party hates conservatives and has no room for one.

The GOP House got what they deserved in the mid terms. That POS Ryan did everything he could to depress GOP turnout.
At least the Senate got two SC seats filled and moved a lot of judges on to the bench.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DB on January 08, 2019, 07:16:28 AM
Agree, and thank you.

Drug Cartel and their criminal business had been increasing since the early 2000's.  I posted an article in the immigration section where a child in LA was describing how most of his friends are dead or in gangs.  Our prison data from our very own DOJ tells the story about Federal crime and illegal immigration.  It is only one part of a whole of ills caused by illegal immigration.  The cost to taxpayers who have to flip the bill for incarceration, food, housing, medical, dental and education for children of illegal immigrants.  We are suffocating from the affects of open borders.  We can look forward in the very near future to the same way of life that these immigrants claim they are leaving.

I sincerely do feel for the workers and their families of this Federal shutdown.  But the scope is much bigger, much wider.  It is about the country and its future.  I have said that Trump should take this shutdown and ask for all of it.  Every bit needed to complete the wall.  Whether it is 26 billion or 40.  It will all come back because we have rock solid data showing the cost of illegal immigration.  If Trump cares about our children and their future he will up the request, not lower it.  He will see to it that our border is secured. 

Democrats have already announced the first order of business for the new Congress.  Bill including border security.  1.3 billion I think was the figure I read for fixing fencing.

A ship tossed to and fro is not a steady ship.

I found the article.  Sad that this is California, but selfish liberal politicians could care less what is happening in their state.  In fact the entire Pacific Northwest.  I wonder too, how can we take people into LA on an asylum request when we throw them right into the MS-13 trap?  Escape from what?

https://www.city-journal.org/html/immigrant-gang-plague-12801.html (https://www.city-journal.org/html/immigrant-gang-plague-12801.html)

Well there is some good news... The new governor of California is asking for additional healthcare benefits for illegals. That should go a long way towards sucking the illegals out of other states into California... San Francisco was just the beginning of what California is sowing.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: sneakypete on January 08, 2019, 01:33:15 PM

@jpsb
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The GOP House got what they deserved in the mid terms. That POS Ryan did everything he could to depress GOP turnout.

I agree. I expect to read any day that Ryan has signed a long-term contract with MSNBC.

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At least the Senate got two SC seats filled and moved a lot of judges on to the bench.

I have to admit to being both surprised and pleased about that one. I didn't think they had it in them.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: verga on January 08, 2019, 05:04:39 PM
   Sure, @Axeslinger we'll accept that your not a Boy Jorge Lover but it's obvious to all of us that you support the Rainbow Push and Jesse Jackson, come clean and admit it.
@corbe you may find this hard to believe but in addition to the NT's and AT's there is such an animal as an ST. That would be a sometimes Trumper. When he does something I like I say so, when he does something I don't like I say so. I did not vote for him, I was not convinced that he would hold Conservative convictions. For the most part he has proven me wrong on that. Of course living in VA it doesn't matter, NoVA and Richmond have been consistently forcing our state blue.
All that being said if he is able to deliver on the wall I will vote for him, if not I will be voting libertarian again.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: verga on January 08, 2019, 05:06:42 PM
Well there is some good news... The new governor of California is asking for additional healthcare benefits for illegals. That should go a long way towards sucking the illegals out of other states into California... San Francisco was just the beginning of what California is sowing.
Hey Blasio is doing the same for New York.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 08, 2019, 05:15:14 PM
   @verga I'm well aware of you ST'ers,  yall are usually the ones that post provocative articles just to get us NT'ers and AT'ers at each other's throat strictly for your entertainment purposes.   
   We're hep to your $hit.   wink777
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: verga on January 09, 2019, 04:52:16 AM
   @verga I'm well aware of you ST'ers,  yall are usually the ones that post provocative articles just to get us NT'ers and AT'ers at each other's throat strictly for your entertainment purposes.   
   We're hep to your $hit.   wink777
@corbe Hey @$$hat list the article that I have posted, Provocative or otherwise, or STFU. I was very polite to you in my response much more than you have ever deserved.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 09, 2019, 07:35:59 AM
@verga

Corbe is joking.  And your logical assessment is spot on.  It is something that us NLers (#NeverLiberal), Corbe included, have been pointing out to the rabid Trump sycophants for 3 years now.  They have an inane inability to comprehend that the exclusion to AT is (NOT)AT.  They continue to cling to the logical fallacy that any display of non-allegiance automatically makes one NT.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: XenaLee on January 09, 2019, 08:22:03 AM
@corbe you may find this hard to believe but in addition to the NT's and AT's there is such an animal as an ST. That would be a sometimes Trumper. When he does something I like I say so, when he does something I don't like I say so. I did not vote for him, I was not convinced that he would hold Conservative convictions. For the most part he has proven me wrong on that. Of course living in VA it doesn't matter, NoVA and Richmond have been consistently forcing our state blue.
All that being said if he is able to deliver on the wall I will vote for him, if not I will be voting libertarian again.

I choose to think of myself as an OT (Occasional Trumper)...lol.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: verga on January 09, 2019, 08:29:41 AM
@verga

Corbe is joking.  And your logical assessment is spot on.  It is something that us NLers (#NeverLiberal), Corbe included, have been pointing out to the rabid Trump sycophants for 3 years now.  They have an inane inability to comprehend that the exclusion to AT is (NOT)AT.  They continue to cling to the logical fallacy that any display of non-allegiance automatically makes one NT.
@Hoodat @corbe
Corbe may think he is joking, but that was the exact opposite of funny. I gave a reasoned response to a ridiculous assertion. I have noticed over the last several months that Corbe's comments have digressed and if he thinks that is humorous it is one of the most pathetic attempts at humor I have seen in a long time. Frankly I am about one comment away from putting him on my very short ignore list.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: XenaLee on January 09, 2019, 09:12:17 AM
Gee.... everybody seems to touchy and 'on edge' in this new year.

Wonder why.   ???  (and no, that's not sarcasm)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Night Hides Not on January 09, 2019, 10:27:50 AM
Gee.... everybody seems to touchy and 'on edge' in this new year.

Wonder why.   ???  (and no, that's not sarcasm)

Probably because it's too easy for me to overcaffeinate...I must have gotten ten pounds of various coffees and k-cups for Christmas, along with a combo coffee brewer & k-cup brewer. It was a great Christmas, as I also received a couple of great books and a couple bottles of wine.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: XenaLee on January 09, 2019, 10:40:44 AM
Probably because it's too easy for me to overcaffeinate...I must have gotten ten pounds of various coffees and k-cups for Christmas, along with a combo coffee brewer & k-cup brewer. It was a great Christmas, as I also received a couple of great books and a couple bottles of wine.

Oh, I'm definitely into the caffeine.   And yes, it was a great Christmas.   I'm hoping this year will be better than the last.   happy77
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 09, 2019, 11:34:14 AM
   @verga I don't use emoticons very often but when I do and use this one  wink777 it strictly means I am JOKING.   As a matter of fact it is the NT/AT'ers that post the great majority of the 'provacative' Threads.  It is the ST/OT's that keep this place from totally disintegrating at times.  Thank You for your cooperation.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: XenaLee on January 09, 2019, 11:50:21 AM
   @verga I don't use emoticons very often but when I do and use this one  wink777 it strictly means I am JOKING.   As a matter of fact it is the NT/AT'ers that post the great majority of the 'provacative' Threads.  It is the ST/OT's that keep this place from totally disintegrating at times.  Thank You for your cooperation.

Hey... I take issue with that crack.

I can disintegrate with the best of em!!!

(http://pleatedjeans.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/acme-disintegrating-pistol-looney-tunes.gif)

Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: mrpotatohead on January 09, 2019, 11:54:31 AM
@Hoodat @corbe
Corbe may think he is joking, but that was the exact opposite of funny. I gave a reasoned response to a ridiculous assertion. I have noticed over the last several months that Corbe's comments have digressed and if he thinks that is humorous it is one of the most pathetic attempts at humor I have seen in a long time. Frankly I am about one comment away from putting him on my very short ignore list.
Already done  :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 10, 2019, 02:53:13 PM
Or they might vote for a third person - someone more Conservative than either.

Likewise, just because a person is not AT does not make that person NT.


What person, pray tell, would be MORE conservative than President TRUMP?  He follows the constitution, uses CONGRESS to get his goals accomplished.  What do want MORE CONSERVATIVE?   Are any of you in reality?  What pipe dream, are you dreaming of?  WE are about to become a communist/socialist country, and you 'worry' about conservatism ? 

Being nicer, more PURE, holy, saint like?  WHO?  LDS, Mitt Romney, who is for NWO, and a RINO?  WHO IS FOR ILLEGALS, as his dad was born in mexico in LDS compound, and which a lot of LDS still go to for summer.  He does not want any borders.  Mitt, who VIOLATES his own ARTICLE OF FAITH, NUMBER 12?  THAT SAINT?  He needs to be excommunicated from the church, by violating TWO of their doctrines, and as bishop, he knows better.   PLEASE, PLEASE tell me who is MORE CONSERVATIVE,  who fights for the American people, better than PRESIDENT TRUMP?

(Not really that pissed at you, but having LIVED, STARVED, in socialism country, I get upset what some people write on here. OUR country is DYING, DYING, and people want some "perfection" of another human being, that will never be good enough anyway.  DOES NOT EXIST!  The virtue signaling people, make me sick. They put themselves on some pedestal. I bet, they are no better than president TRUMP. Frustrating for me. If we put everything they did on TV, and add more lies to it, they would be stoned too. )

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Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 10, 2019, 03:07:34 PM
We always know what to expect from democrats – after all, they are democrats...and too many of them are NWO proto-communists.

But, to see Republican and conservative NeverTrumpers falling in line with fake news and democrat attacks on our republican president, is sickening.

The congress had two-years of total control and if the president doesn’t get the wall, it’s on them, the turncoat Republican and conservative NeverTrumpers.


Agree.  If people don't support the best president, we've had in a long time, they have some mental disorder. Not able to be logical, and not for their own preservation.  How is THAT not having a mental disorder?  Fighting for your own demise.
These virtue signaling people on here, have no clue, what it means to live in socialism. Try reading about Venezuela.  They don't care. People there are eating dogs, flamingo's, zoo animals to survive. They don't believe it can happen here. Ocacio, is pushing for that. Many in office now, want Communism. NT's just don't get it. THEY ARE democrats. Not conservatives.
Fooling themselves. Fortunately, I will be dead, before we go full Venezuela.  I've already, lived, starved in socialism once, don't care to do it again.  People need a good thump on the head!    22222frying pan   9999hair out0000


But, to see Republican and conservative NeverTrumpers falling in line with fake news and democrat attacks on our republican president, is sickening.=Aligncare
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DCPatriot on January 10, 2019, 03:07:52 PM

What person, pray tell, would be MORE conservative than President TRUMP?  He follows the constitution, uses CONGRESS to get his goals accomplished.  What do want MORE CONSERVATIVE?   Are any of you in reality?  What pipe dream, are you dreaming of?  WE are about to become a communist/socialist country, and you 'worry' about conservatism ? 

Being nicer, more PURE, holy, saint like?  WHO?  LDS, Mitt Romney, who is for NWO, and a RINO?  WHO IS FOR ILLEGALS, as his dad was born in mexico in LDS compound, and which a lot of LDS still go to for summer.  He does not want any borders.  Mitt, who VIOLATES his own ARTICLE OF FAITH, NUMBER 12?  THAT SAINT?  He needs to be excommunicated from the church, by violating TWO of their doctrines, and as bishop, he knows better.   PLEASE, PLEASE tell me who is MORE CONSERVATIVE,  who fights for the American people, better than PRESIDENT TRUMP?

(Not really that pissed at you, but having LIVED, STARVED, in socialism country, I get upset what some people write on here. OUR country is DYING, DYING, and people want some "perfection" of another human being, that will never be good enough anyway.  DOES NOT EXIST!  The virtue signaling people, make me sick. They put themselves on some pedestal. I bet, they are no better than president TRUMP. Frustrating for me. If we put everything they did on TV, and add more lies to it, they would be stoned too. )

www.magapill.com (http://www.magapill.com)

Not all heroes ride white horses.

Here's a thought.  Kids raised on Ninja Turtles and Cabbage Patch dolls are running the country.    wink777
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 10, 2019, 03:22:32 PM


Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown

« Reply #81 on: January 07, 2019, 09:24:20 AM »
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Quote from: goodwithagun on December 29, 2018, 09:29:12 PM

And the whole time trump tweeted nasty things about them. I’m sure name calling those whom you need to make a deal is an entire chapter in The Art of the Deal.
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@goodwithagun

Sooooo,now it's TRUMPS fault the RINO's are working with their Dim brothers to destroy America?

Want to see someone working to destroy America? Look in a mirror.

-------------------------------

Agree.

 So, Trump called some names?  FIRST..they did it to HIM. TRUMP REPLIED.  Some still call him ORANGE, talk about his penis, his HAIR, hands, etc.  BUT...that is "not' name calling my president.  That is ALL IT HAS BEEN!  DAY ONE.  They called him clown, buffoon, and many more names. There is a collage of what all these so called "good people', called him NAMES FIRST!

What I just wrote, should not have been necessary, if anyone has paid any attention to FAKE, LEFT NEWS. 

Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 10, 2019, 03:32:03 PM



YES.  WE WILL HAVE A SEE THRU, STEEL WALL.   Quicker than brick and mortar.  Why people would NOT want a wall to make Americans safe?  Shows the insanity of those, not wanting a wall.   

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 10, 2019, 03:45:26 PM
Those who do not support my excellent, duly elected President TRUMP...are just a bunch of DEMOCRATS.  Call yourselves what you want.  You are all ANTI-AMERICAN...and it makes you all communists.  That's it.

Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DCPatriot on January 10, 2019, 03:47:44 PM
Those who do not support my excellent, duly elected President TRUMP...are just a bunch of DEMOCRATS.  Call yourselves what you want.  You are all ANTI-AMERICAN...and it makes you all communists.  That's it.

 9999hair out0000      :laugh:      9999hair out0000      :laugh:      9999hair out0000
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 10, 2019, 03:59:06 PM
Not all heroes ride white horses.

Here's a thought.  Kids raised on Ninja Turtles and Cabbage Patch dolls are running the country.    wink777


I just don't get it.  So, everyone else, is so much BETTER, than a successful builder, businessman and now president as TRUMP!  He is the most perfect president ever.  Since, it is a "job" one cannot get training on BEFORE, it is a, by the seat of your pants operation.  I think he has done better, than WELL.  EXTRAORDINARY. I've been around since Eisenhower. I speak with knowledge. I don't think TRUMP has made any mistake!  How does anyone Know the FUTURE?  AFTER THE FACT, we have all these people talking about, 20/20 hindsight, coulda, woulda, shoulda. (Tell us before what to do, not AFTER)  He is ONE human being fighting for our country, if people don't see that, they are all democrats and anti-American.  Don't care what label they try to put on themselves.  Not for duly elected, best president ever?  DEMOCRAT=PROGRESSIVE=COMMUNIST.

They want a SAINT to run this country?  Sure, guess how 'TOUGH" a SAINT WOULD BE. BEND OVER.

       www.magapill.com (http://www.magapill.com)



Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 10, 2019, 04:02:09 PM
9999hair out0000      :laugh:      9999hair out0000      :laugh:      9999hair out0000
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Yup!   lol lol lol lol.  :amen:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on January 10, 2019, 04:04:39 PM
I support President Trump and his endeavors to build a wall. He has done some wonderful things and has for the most part been good for this country, admittedly beyond my expectations.

To give any President a free pass for every reason and to paint their picture rosier than warranted and to put them on a pedestal is absurd, ridiculous, and dangerous. 

While I feel he has been a good President, I wouldn't say he is perfect.  The 'perfect' one was savagely tortured and nailed to a cross!
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: sneakypete on January 10, 2019, 04:08:04 PM

 

They want a SAINT to run this country?

@LegalAmerican

Yes,and I ain't even running!
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DCPatriot on January 10, 2019, 04:22:26 PM
I support President Trump and his endeavors to build a wall. He has done some wonderful things and has for the most part been good for this country, admittedly beyond my expectations.

To give any President a free pass for every reason and to paint their picture rosier than warranted and to put them on a pedestal is absurd, ridiculous, and dangerous. 

While I feel he has been a good President, I wouldn't say he is perfect.  The 'perfect' one was savagely tortured and nailed to a cross!

Given the 'Forbes' list of Top 100 emerging political figures/leaders...

Allowing for a 50/50 split on Party Platform (individual vs. village), Donald J. Trump beats the hell out of anybody you can list 2nd.   wink777
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on January 10, 2019, 04:32:24 PM
Given the 'Forbes' list of Top 100 emerging political figures/leaders...

Allowing for a 50/50 split on Party Platform (individual vs. village), Donald J. Trump beats the hell out of anybody you can list 2nd.   wink777

At this point @DCPatriot I don't think anyone in here is voicing their objection to President DJT standing his ground and fighting Chuckie and Nancy.  He still 'ain't' perfect ... but far be it from me right now to find fault with what he's doing.

Do I wish he would have started this fight last year?  Definitely. Do  I wish he'd ditch Kushner as his advisor!  No surprise on that one.  Why in God's name did he appoint Rosenstein, I'll never know ... but one thing is for sure, he's kicking booty right now, where booty needs to be kicked!!

Anyone going to object?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 10, 2019, 06:48:27 PM
President TRUMP is perfect as far as president goes.  Jesus Christ would not b good enough for some of you.  Jesus did TALK, touch , a prostitute, and supported her.  Jesus showed his temper at the temple.  Jesus turned people into pillars of SALT for being evil.

Most of you, would not LIKE that behavior.  I didn't vote for Jesus, a priest, rabbi, or pope. I voted for a MAN. NOTHING dangerous supporting TRUMP whole hardily.  Do any of you notice how MEDIA EXCORIATES HIM even for doing good?  How DEMON-RATS lie and fight him?  How 9th and 10th circuit anti-American judges, STOP HIS TEMP BAN ON BRINGING in people from terrorist countries.  You have more to fear from DEMOCRATS...COMMUNISTS,,then my president TRUMP.  What is dangerous to support ones president, who has kept his word on everything.  He is NOT TO BE FEARED...it is the rest of you.  ANTI-AMERICANS.

I wish, he would go dictator style, but I fear NT'S , DEMOCRATS, RINO's, Media, MUCH, MUCH MORE! 
That is such an old fashioned notion, about it being "dangerous' to support him 100%.  The danger was with OBAMA!  You all lived through that POS.  Now we have a man, that loves this country. Shows it every day.  Proves it out, and you pull out that old baloney about dangerous ?  WE ARE ALREADY IN THE DANGER, BY NOT SUPPORTING THIS PRESIDENT.   His works for the last 2 years prove it out. Besides, if he wanted to go rogue, you think, posting badly about him will STOP THAT?   I LAUGH!  HA!

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Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on January 10, 2019, 06:54:41 PM
President TRUMP is perfect as far as president goes.  Jesus Christ would not b good enough for some of you.  Jesus did TALK, touch , a prostitute, and supported her.  Jesus showed his temper at the temple.  Jesus turned people into pillars of SALT for being evil.

Most of you, would not LIKE that behavior.  I didn't vote for Jesus, a priest, rabbi, or pope. I voted for a MAN. NOTHING dangerous supporting TRUMP whole hardily.  Do any of you notice how MEDIA EXCORIATES HIM even for doing good?  How DEMON-RATS lie and fight him?  How 9th and 10th circuit anti-American judges, STOP HIS TEMP BAN ON BRINGING in people from terrorist countries.  You have more to fear from DEMOCRATS...COMMUNISTS,,then my president TRUMP.  What is dangerous to support ones president, who has kept his word on everything.  He is NOT TO BE FEARED...it is the rest of you.  ANTI-AMERICANS.

I wish, he would go dictator style, but I fear NT'S , DEMOCRATS, RINO's, Media, MUCH, MUCH MORE! 
That is such an old fashioned notion, about it being "dangerous' to support him 100%.  The danger was with OBAMA!  You all lived through that POS.  Now we have a man, that loves this country. Shows it every day.  Proves it out, and you pull out that old baloney about dangerous ?  WE ARE ALREADY IN THE DANGER, BY NOT SUPPORTING THIS PRESIDENT.   His works for the last 2 years prove it out. Besides, if he wanted to go rogue, you think, posting badly about him will STOP THAT?   I LAUGH!  HA!

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With all the hoopla going on lately I find myself less tolerable than usual ... some people you just have to put on ignore.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 10, 2019, 07:13:02 PM
@LegalAmerican

Yes,and I ain't even running!



....^ 5 !    I get so sick of all the virtue signaling people on here!  That is all so PHONY to me.  What is being done to president TRUMP is just s savage as what they have done to Jesus!  All that is left is to nail him to a cross...they are wanting that.  His name, reputation, family history, wife,  kids have been called horrible names, by the left!  LIED ABOUT SINCE 2015,,,AND EVERY DAY SINCE THEN.  I could not hold up under all of that while helping this country! 
FOR NO PAY!....It is like SPORT for all those against TRUMP. " What can we say to undermine, bash the president, so I look 'smart", "virtuous" on here."    Jesus would be the FIRST..to say, not to do that!   Oh, and ARTICLE 12 in the articles of faith in Quad says;  We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in OBEYING, HONORING,
and SUSTAINING THE LAW.    Now, where does Holier then thou, Mitt come in?  ARTICLE  13. "doing good to all men"
I don't see any real Christians.  We are to forgive 7 X 70...yet people hold on to their grudges about My president.

He is better than most of you on here.  HE IS A CENTRIST.  I would think all the lefty's would like that. 

My president is going through trial by FIRE...daily. 

 So, let the mocking ...begin, by all those Christians who are So GOOD.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2019, 07:58:22 PM

What is being done to president TRUMP is just s savage as what they have done to Jesus!

Wow.  Just wow.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 10, 2019, 08:48:57 PM

Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown

« Reply #81 on: January 07, 2019, 09:24:20 AM »
Quote


Quote from: goodwithagun on December 29, 2018, 09:29:12 PM

And the whole time trump tweeted nasty things about them. I’m sure name calling those whom you need to make a deal is an entire chapter in The Art of the Deal.
-------------

@goodwithagun

Sooooo,now it's TRUMPS fault the RINO's are working with their Dim brothers to destroy America?

Want to see someone working to destroy America? Look in a mirror.

-------------------------------

Agree.

 So, Trump called some names?  FIRST..they did it to HIM. TRUMP REPLIED.  Some still call him ORANGE, talk about his penis, his HAIR, hands, etc.  BUT...that is "not' name calling my president.  That is ALL IT HAS BEEN!  DAY ONE.  They called him clown, buffoon, and many more names. There is a collage of what all these so called "good people', called him NAMES FIRST!

What I just wrote, should not have been necessary, if anyone has paid any attention to FAKE, LEFT NEWS.

Actually, he brought up a few of those topics first, specifically the topic that probably gave you an orgasm just typing. Hint: It’s not his unnatural complexion.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 10, 2019, 08:50:48 PM
Wow.  Just wow.

Yup. She needs pink slipped.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DCPatriot on January 10, 2019, 10:34:10 PM
Yup. She needs pink slipped.

holdonow!

If you step back...try to be totally objective.

1) The mainstream media, social media, entertainment, academia and the Washington establishment, his OWN party included...hate his guts and the idea he's breathing.

2) Oh..and the Democrat Party, taken over by the radical Left, thinks he's Hitler and Judge Roy Bean.  On a good day.

So yeah...I'd compared President Trump's persecution to that of Jesus.    wink777
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 10, 2019, 10:46:18 PM
Man this thread got stoopid.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DCPatriot on January 10, 2019, 10:48:11 PM
Man this thread got stoopid.

Yeah?  Well, just keep your WaWa shit out of here.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 10, 2019, 10:49:17 PM
Yeah?  Well, just keep your WaWa shit out of here.   :laugh:

bleep off.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DCPatriot on January 10, 2019, 10:53:26 PM
bleep off.

You're still my b*tch, you know.   :seeya:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 10, 2019, 10:58:19 PM
You're still my b*tch, you know.   :seeya:

Bitches are female canines, not cockroaches.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 11:03:08 PM
Looks like a good place for a TRUMP IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(https://livinggospeldaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Trump-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 10, 2019, 11:06:26 PM
Looks like a good place for a TRUMP IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(https://livinggospeldaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Trump-1.jpg)

Speaking of cockroaches...
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 11:10:43 PM
Speaking of cockroaches...

Listen here DCP's Bitch. I don't have time for your shit. I'm busy worshiping Trump.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/008/165/0b0.png)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on January 10, 2019, 11:12:05 PM
Man, carrying all that heavy stuff around must play heck with the bone spurs.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 11:17:41 PM
Thank you mr cannon for showing president Trump some respect.

It's a well known fact that I am THEE biggest Always Trumper here. As a matter of fact I may be the only one. If you look around closely there is a whole hell of a lot of Romney and Kasich fans lurking about. Be careful!
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DCPatriot on January 10, 2019, 11:18:23 PM
Thank you mr cannon for showing president Trump some respect.

While Mr. Cannon is a Trump supporter, his posts are always dripping with extreme sarcasm.  Every chance he gets.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 10, 2019, 11:22:56 PM
While Mr. Cannon is a Trump supporter, his posts are always dripping with extreme sarcasm.  Every chance he gets.   :laugh:

I think you're right.  I don't think he's nearly the Trump supporter he pretends he is.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 11:25:10 PM
I think you're right.  I don't think he's nearly the Trump supporter he pretends he is.

You're right! I'm the Dem Plant!!!
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 10, 2019, 11:26:03 PM
You're right! I'm the Dem Plant!!!

I thought I was the Dem Plant.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: roamer_1 on January 10, 2019, 11:28:21 PM
yet people hold on to their grudges about My president.

He is better than most of you on here.  HE IS A CENTRIST.

There it is right there (except that it is wrong... he is a liberal)...

But you suggest that Conservatives hold a grudge.
Not true.

Conservatives hold to principles... Which your entire movement disregards.
Hence it is no grudge, but rather, opposition directly.

I am not interested in the exploits of centrists or liberals.
I am interested in the principles of Conservatism, of which your movement defends not a single one.
Indeed, most of y'all could not even name them.

In that, the best I could do is feign indifference to your 'cause' (as if that is defined), which I mostly do, in the interest of politeness.

Until you come up against those principles, and calling yourself conservative without them.
Then I will rise, as surely as the sun, and there I will defend, and be against you.

Otherwise, this is definitely not my circus, and most certainly not my clown.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 11:31:04 PM
I'm a little to old for Frank (32) and I live in Utah, but I like him.

No don't panic. You're right in the sweet spot. As for living in UT I don't believe that's a real place so I will give you a pass.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 10, 2019, 11:31:17 PM
I'm a little to old for Frank (32) and I live in Utah, but I like him.

Anyone else hearing the Twilight Zone theme music playing?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: roamer_1 on January 10, 2019, 11:31:29 PM
Wow.  Just wow.

IKR?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 11:32:43 PM
I thought I was the Dem Plant.

With your bluntness? Get the hell out of here.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on January 10, 2019, 11:34:47 PM
Anyone else hearing the Twilight Zone theme music playing?

I thought I heard banjos. 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 10, 2019, 11:35:43 PM
With your bluntness? Get the hell out of here.

Am I blunt?  I hadn't noticed.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 11:36:21 PM
Roos smokes blunts?

Speaking of someone who is too old for me it would be that old burnout.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 11:38:54 PM
Anyone else hearing the Twilight Zone theme music playing?

Madam. I am who all the women here dream about to save them from their boring pointless existences. You can take that to the bank.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DCPatriot on January 10, 2019, 11:39:09 PM
Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGaqp-_BOHw#)

Swingin' with Charlotte- John Anderson
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 11:39:52 PM
She looks very young, Frank.

That photo was taken 80 years ago.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 10, 2019, 11:40:09 PM
Speaking of someone who is too old for me it would be that old burnout.

You're just disappointed I wouldn't let you call me Daddy.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 11:41:07 PM
You're just disappointed I wouldn't let you call me Daddy.

LOL. Top Notch!
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 10, 2019, 11:46:31 PM
The fever that mr cannon displays here for our great President is needed everywhere. He is being attacked on all sides and needs our help.

Lady I couldn't agree more. I don't get any respect around here.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 11, 2019, 12:00:35 AM
I love you mr cannon.  your still gonna rent me that closet/with a hot plate for $750/month, right?

Nah. I can't make coin giving places away.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 11, 2019, 12:25:22 AM
@corbe you may find this hard to believe but in addition to the NT's and AT's there is such an animal as an ST. That would be a sometimes Trumper. When he does something I like I say so, when he does something I don't like I say so. I did not vote for him, I was not convinced that he would hold Conservative convictions. For the most part he has proven me wrong on that. Of course living in VA it doesn't matter, NoVA and Richmond have been consistently forcing our state blue.
All that being said if he is able to deliver on the wall I will vote for him, if not I will be voting libertarian again.



As much as I like  your posts, if you are NOT going to vote for president TRUMP in 2020...don't vote at all.  Same diff, voting for Libertarian or third party. A WASTED VOTE.  I am in my very small, tiny, tiny way trying to save America.   Wake people up. They refuse TRUTH. FACTS.   President TRUMP is delivering on the wall.  He is using constitution and CONGRESS 
TO GET THAT DONE. EVEN SHUT DOWN. If it is not done...NOT ON HIM.  Why would you penalize him for what, democrats, RINO'S, MEDIA have done to him?   ALL ARE ANTI-AMERICANS.  HE IS OUR LAST HOPE TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY.

IF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, WE ARE LOST..GONE.  NO MORE AMERICA. NO MORE AMERICA.  Cannot make it more clearer than that.  NO IST, 2ND, 5TH, 4TH.....and more, lost. NO CONSTITUTION.   WE ARE OVER.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Night Hides Not on January 11, 2019, 12:29:06 AM


As much as I like  your posts, if you are NOT going to vote for president TRUMP in 2020...don't vote at all.  Same diff, voting for Libertarian or third party. A WASTED VOTE.  I am in my very small, tiny, tiny way trying to save America.   Wake people up. They refuse TRUTH. FACTS.   President TRUMP is delivering on the wall.  He is using constitution and CONGRESS 
TO GET THAT DONE. EVEN SHUT DOWN. If it is not done...NOT ON HIM.  Why would you penalize him for what, democrats, RINO'S, MEDIA have done to him?   ALL ARE ANTI-AMERICANS.  HE IS OUR LAST HOPE TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY.

IF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, WE ARE LOST..GONE.  NO MORE AMERICA. NO MORE AMERICA.  Cannot make it more clearer than that.  NO IST, 2ND, 5TH, 4TH.....and more, lost. NO CONSTITUTION.   WE ARE OVER.

If a populist such as Trump is the last hope for this country, it's already over.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: roamer_1 on January 11, 2019, 12:33:52 AM
If a populist such as Trump is the last hope for this country, it's already over.

That's right.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 11, 2019, 12:42:50 AM
    Thank you @LegalAmerican for the voting advice, It was a real nasty pinch that clothes pin left on me to vote for McCain back in 2008 and sexy Sarah had a lot to do with that, haven't voted GOP since, Your party suxs.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 11, 2019, 12:45:11 AM
Wow.  Just wow.

Correct.  Was Jesus mocked?  Was Jesus laughed at? Was Jesus lied about?  Did they have protests about him in the streets?   YES.  Only Jesus didn't have 11 assassination attempts on his life,  like president TRUMP.  I didn't bring up the Jesus thing.  Some one else did. I just went with it.

Now every one is going to say, I said Trump is like Jesus. NO.

Then you are all missing the point.  EVEN JESUS WOULD NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR SOME OF YOU. I gave examples.

  I do know, Jesus would not support all the phony Christians. Heavenly Father and I have a nice relationship.

Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 11, 2019, 12:49:00 AM
   Apples and Oranges, as usual, @LegalAmerican Jesus didn't have Lawyers like President Trump does.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 11, 2019, 01:02:56 AM
I scanned two pages of nothingness.   lol

President TRUMP is NOT GOD, not JESUS.   Just a human being like everyone else.  He is perfect as president.  I explained that too.

...   WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)           More has been accomplished in 18 months..than most presidents in 8 year terms.  Now, THAT IS A HARD FACT.  I appreciate what he has done and all for, NO PAY.  JUST ATTACKS, insults, lies, about him personally, daily.
I do think, too many people use drugs or smoke pot on here. I hear no banjos, or twilight music.  See?  How is that any kind of productive post?   MORE MOCKING, INSULTS to people who support an American president.  THE HORROR!   
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 11, 2019, 01:29:02 AM


President TRUMP is NOT GOD, not JESUS.   

Like hell. Speak for yourself.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: roamer_1 on January 11, 2019, 01:33:49 AM
More has been accomplished in 18 months..than most presidents in 8 year terms.  Now, THAT IS A HARD FACT.

No, it is not.

He has governed by imperial order.

Every single executive order will vanish with the next Democrat (and maybe Republican) president. POOF! GONE!

Howabout you tell us all what he has done that we get to keep?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: montanajoe on January 11, 2019, 02:11:11 AM

President TRUMP is NOT GOD, not JESUS.   


Got that right...he is the Anti-Christ.

Who knew the Anti-Christ would have orange hair... :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2019, 02:12:46 AM
Got that right...he is the Anti-Christ.

Who knew the Anti-Christ would have orange hair... :shrug:

Wait!  What??  I thought it was orange face and blond hair.    :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: sneakypete on January 11, 2019, 03:40:00 AM
   Apples and Oranges, as usual, @LegalAmerican Jesus didn't have Lawyers like President Trump does.

@corbe

Of course he had lawyers. He was surrounded by a higher percentage of Jews than there is in Bel Air. It stands to reason that some of them had to be lawyers.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 11, 2019, 03:22:23 PM
Got that right...he is the Anti-Christ.

Who knew the Anti-Christ would have orange hair... :shrug:


More ignorant post on here.  WE HAD THE ANTI-CHRIST with Obama. Now, we have the antidote.  Read this site.

www.magapill.com (http://www.magapill.com)      Then come back and tell me if what you wrote is correct. 

Now, what is it with the name calling.  What orange hair?   Are you RACIST about a person of "color"?  22222frying pan

I hope YOU are not a Christian on here, as THAT is not Christian post. Did it occur to you, that media does that to him?  He has grey hair that goes, yellow.  Ask lady's who have grey hair and do nothing to tone it.  So, far that is NOT me.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 11, 2019, 03:28:07 PM
What in the world does the below, mean?  We are talking about lawyers and Jews now?  I support a very good president!  That is it. 
He is the best I have seen in my lifetime. 

You are a fruit bowl.   


Quote from: corbe on Today at 12:49:00 AM
   Apples and Oranges, as usual, @LegalAmerican Jesus didn't have Lawyers like President Trump does.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 11, 2019, 03:31:48 PM
Got that right...he is the Anti-Christ.

Who knew the Anti-Christ would have orange hair... :shrug:


Ok, list why you say that.  I need some real facts, not left lying media talking points from you.  LIST THEM.  Waiting.
---

President TRUMP is NOT GOD, not JESUS.   Just a human being like everyone else.  He is perfect as president.  I explained that too.

...   WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)           More has been accomplished in 18 months..than most presidents in 8 year terms.  Now, THAT IS A HARD FACT.  I appreciate what he has done and all for, NO PAY.  JUST ATTACKS, insults, lies, about him personally, daily.
I do think, too many people use drugs or smoke pot on here. I hear no banjos, or twilight music.  See?  How is that any kind of productive post?   MORE MOCKING, INSULTS to people who support an American president.  THE HORROR!  =L.A.


Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Restored on January 11, 2019, 03:36:45 PM
Why are you guys trolling Legal?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2019, 03:38:30 PM
Why are you guys trolling Legal?

You took the words right out of my mouth.

@LegalAmerican   They're just trolling you to get a reaction from you.

Save your breath, darling.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: The Ghost on January 11, 2019, 03:41:54 PM
Why are you guys trolling Legal?

Screw Legal.  This thread is comic gold. 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: aligncare on January 11, 2019, 03:59:44 PM
Screw Legal.  This thread is comic gold.

You know the last thing I would want to do is introduce a dark note, but if you’re looking for a few yuks shouldn’t you simply check into a comedy thread? Political discussions are treated as seriously as a heart attack on political fora...unless you’re named @Amb. Frank Cannon or @RoosGirl.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: The Ghost on January 11, 2019, 04:03:38 PM
You know the last thing I would want to do is introduce a dark note, but if you’re looking for a few yuks shouldn’t you simply check into a comedy thread? Political discussions are treated as seriously as a heart attack on political fora...unless you’re named @Amb. Frank Cannon or @RoosGirl.

Sal,  You know  after 187 post I don't think this thread is going anywhere anymore.   These things have a shelf life.  And this one has past it's expiration date.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: aligncare on January 11, 2019, 04:29:06 PM
Sal,  You know  after 187 post I don't think this thread is going anywhere anymore.   These things have a shelf life.  And this one has past it's expiration date.

Well...

you’re not wrong about that...

But, still...

it’s the principle involved.

And thus it all comes back...to politics.

 happy77
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 11, 2019, 04:57:29 PM
You know the last thing I would want to do is introduce a dark note, but if you’re looking for a few yuks shouldn’t you simply check into a comedy thread? Political discussions are treated as seriously as a heart attack on political fora...unless you’re named @Amb. Frank Cannon or @RoosGirl.

Oh, absolutely, we should all keep saying the same damn thing over and over again to each other for page after page with absolutely no fun or joy allowed.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 11, 2019, 05:02:49 PM
Why are you guys trolling Legal?

Because she posts stupid shit.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 11, 2019, 05:04:51 PM
Why are you guys trolling Legal?

Bashing Conservativism on a Conservative website, perhaps?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: aligncare on January 11, 2019, 05:18:49 PM
Oh, absolutely, we should all keep saying the same damn thing over and over again to each other for page after page with absolutely no fun or joy allowed.

The fun and joy you indulge in, most rest of us see as a a public nuisance. But, this is just me having some fun and joy with you, you understand.

It’s good we could laugh together like this.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 11, 2019, 05:22:30 PM
Oh, absolutely, we should all keep saying the same damn thing over and over again to each other for page after page with absolutely no fun or joy allowed.

Exactly!!! We need to repeat and repeat comments again and again to other posters on thread after thread without enjoyment or excitement provided.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 11, 2019, 05:26:01 PM
You know the last thing I would want to do is introduce a dark note, but if you’re looking for a few yuks shouldn’t you simply check into a comedy thread? Political discussions are treated as seriously as a heart attack on political fora...unless you’re named @Amb. Frank Cannon or @RoosGirl.

Do I detect a bit of jealousy in the congregation?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 11, 2019, 05:26:23 PM
The fun and joy you indulge in, most rest of us see as a a public nuisance. But, this is just me having some fun and joy with you, you understand.

It’s good we could laugh together like this.

You're just bitter that people actually like us here.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 11, 2019, 05:26:42 PM
The fun and joy you indulge in, most rest of us see as a a public nuisance. But, this is just me having some fun and joy with you, you understand.

It’s good we could laugh together like this.

Thankfully not all of us are grumpy old bastards.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: The Ghost on January 11, 2019, 05:42:31 PM
Thankfully not all of us are grumpy old bastards.

Hey Lady....I represent that comment.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 11, 2019, 05:49:42 PM
Hey Lady....I represent that comment.

Take solace that you are not alone.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: aligncare on January 11, 2019, 06:42:13 PM
Do I detect a bit of jealousy in the congregation?

Okay, you pegged me. I’m guilty. I’m jealous of an anonymous internet sugar daddy and his main squeeze.

Who's gonna sleep tonight?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 11, 2019, 06:51:16 PM
Okay, you pegged me. I’m guilty. I’m jealous of an anonymous internet sugar daddy and his main squeeze.

Who's gonna sleep tonight?

Yeah, doesn't come across as jealous at all.   :silly:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 11, 2019, 11:50:48 PM
You took the words right out of my mouth.

@LegalAmerican   They're just trolling you to get a reaction from you.

Save your breath, darling.



 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 13, 2019, 12:21:20 PM
Exactly!!! We need to repeat and repeat comments again and again to other posters on thread after thread without enjoyment or excitement provided.


Excrement provided ?  That is what I read.   :silly:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: DCPatriot on January 13, 2019, 12:50:10 PM
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Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 13, 2019, 12:58:19 PM
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.................. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Once-Ler on January 13, 2019, 01:47:51 PM
Quote
Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown

Keep waiting dumbass.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: aligncare on January 13, 2019, 02:28:55 PM
Keep waiting dumbass.

He may be a dumb ass to you, some faceless critic from the back of the room. But, President Trump came into office with a conservative agenda and has steadfastly worked to achieve his campaign promises. And no amount of phony breaking news stories or whining from outraged democrats can erase his accomplishments thus far.

Six more years, baby. The fun’s just started. Brace yourself. I hope you can recover from all the winning.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 13, 2019, 03:46:00 PM
He may be a dumb ass to you, some faceless critic from the back of the room. But, President Trump came into office with a conservative agenda and has steadfastly worked to achieve his campaign promises. And no amount of phony breaking news stories or whining from outraged democrats can erase his accomplishments thus far.

Six more years, baby. The fun’s just started. Brace yourself. I hope you can recover from all the winning.

I've been wondering if you had to return that first yacht you were buying with your 401k proceeds? 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Emjay on January 13, 2019, 04:13:50 PM
You're just bitter that people actually like us here.

Well, ummm,  sometimes, Frank, but not the Frank and Roos routine.  It is beyond not funny.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 13, 2019, 04:48:46 PM
Well, ummm,  sometimes, Frank, but not the Frank and Roos routine.  It is beyond not funny.

Bullshit. @RoosGirl and @Amb. Frank Cannon are the best act around.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 13, 2019, 04:54:22 PM
Bullshit. @RoosGirl and @Amb. Frank Cannon are the best act around.

   They are both quite Talented, especially when they sync, but nothing beats me and the @The Ghost @goodwithagun even on our OFF days.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 13, 2019, 04:55:54 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a8/ea/28/a8ea28d1ef30715aab371dfbd8b17565.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: The Ghost on January 13, 2019, 05:00:01 PM
   They are both quite Talented, especially when they sync, but nothing beats me and the @The Ghost @goodwithagun even on our OFF days.

By comparison they are regular amateurs vs us @corbe.  We are rank amateurs.  888high58888

Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 13, 2019, 05:02:24 PM
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Top notch @DCPatriot    :beer:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 13, 2019, 05:14:01 PM
Bullshit. @RoosGirl and @Amb. Frank Cannon are the best act around.

We are the best act around gosh darn it.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 13, 2019, 05:17:05 PM
               Please, Trumpers it's way too early for my Wade Boots.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/9b/96/189b968e82ef633c51b9024ffa502816.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Emjay on January 13, 2019, 06:49:54 PM
(http://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49719558_1041472262859446_2612080353581465600_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=1a698b58cf0f0cbb9f2373af6c8bd64b&oe=5CD533FA)

That could not be more true.  Trump is actually gaining followers from his original base.  I even see it here.

Heck, I see it in myself. 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Emjay on January 13, 2019, 06:53:04 PM
Bullshit. @RoosGirl and @Amb. Frank Cannon are the best act around.

Only if you've had way too many drinks.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 13, 2019, 07:47:45 PM
Only if you've had way too many drinks.

Thanks for the tip! I’ll make a martini and see how funny they get!
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Emjay on January 13, 2019, 09:24:03 PM
Thanks for the tip! I’ll make a martini and see how funny they get!

Better make 3 or 4.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 13, 2019, 09:39:07 PM
Better make 3 or 4.

@goodwithagun Pretty sure she knows what she's talking about.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on January 13, 2019, 09:48:15 PM
Only if you've had way too many drinks.

Actually it really depends on how many drinks they've had .... the smoker they drink, the player they get.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 13, 2019, 09:53:32 PM
(http://pre05.deviantart.net/5a3f/th/pre/i/2013/111/0/7/martini_girl_by_nicolemxx-d62iisl.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: LegalAmerican on January 14, 2019, 07:27:53 PM
Only if you've had way too many drinks.


......... :thumbsup:

Correct. Not funny at all. They "think" they are funny.  Putting others down and mocking is 'sport", don't you know.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: roamer_1 on January 14, 2019, 07:38:01 PM

Correct. Not funny at all. They "think" they are funny.  Putting others down and mocking is 'sport", don't you know.

 :silly:

Physician, heal thyself.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 14, 2019, 07:40:59 PM
    Since you put me on Ignore @LegalAmerican you are no longer fun to play with. 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 14, 2019, 07:56:22 PM
I've been wondering if you had to return that first yacht you were buying with your 401k proceeds?

I'll take that as a 'Yes'.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 14, 2019, 07:56:23 PM
:silly:

Physician, heal thyself.

Spot on.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 14, 2019, 08:21:33 PM
@goodwithagun Pretty sure she knows what she's talking about.

She must because mom slapped my a hand and made me edit this post. Nothing hurts more than the truth.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 14, 2019, 08:27:31 PM

......... :thumbsup:

Correct. Not funny at all. They "think" they are funny.  Putting others down and mocking is 'sport", don't you know.

Double facepalm here.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Emjay on January 14, 2019, 09:22:56 PM
She must because mom slapped my a hand and made me edit this post. Nothing hurts more than the truth.

The truth is that you and Roos think it is hysterical to make fun of another poster, one who, by the way, does not drink.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: The Ghost on January 14, 2019, 09:31:59 PM
Keep waiting dumbass.

Nice.    888high58888
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 14, 2019, 09:35:40 PM
   Oftentimes @Emjay I've found it much easier to defend my drunkness than my affliction of TDS, here in TBR
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 14, 2019, 09:38:45 PM
The truth is that you and Roos think it is hysterical to make fun of another poster, one who, by the way, does not drink.

What is this awful thing they did?  Perhaps some indirect condescending implication of being a NeverTrumper?

Oh wait .  .  .
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: edpc on January 14, 2019, 09:40:38 PM
He may be a dumb ass to you, some faceless critic from the back of the room. But, President Trump came into office with a conservative agenda and has steadfastly worked to achieve his campaign promises. And no amount of phony breaking news stories or whining from outraged democrats can erase his accomplishments thus far.

Six more years, baby. The fun’s just started. Brace yourself. I hope you can recover from all the winning.


Except most of what he's promised is turning to merde. See the wall, trade imbalance, coal, and steel as examples.


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-promises-coal-steel-china-trade-falling-flat-235120673.html;_ylt=Awr9DtO9Rj1cFWkAiddx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTE0NWkzdWo4BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVUkyRkJUMl8xBHNlYwNzYw--
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Emjay on January 14, 2019, 09:51:12 PM
   Oftentimes @Emjay I've found it much easier to defend my drunkness than my affliction of TDS, here in TBR

Nobody faults you for a little bit of drinking @corbe   But a couple of 'ladies' here cannot stand criticism and resort to doing the mean girl act together.

Some people here make me wish I COULD drink but my daughter won't let me.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Emjay on January 14, 2019, 09:54:11 PM
What is this awful thing they did?  Perhaps some indirect condescending implication of being a NeverTrumper?

Oh wait .  .  .

It wasn't awful @Hoodat ... it was just childish and petty.  I started it by saying that @RoosGirl is not as funny as she thinks she is and she got her little buddy to chime in calling me a drunk.

I shouldn't have taken offense but sometimes ....
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: txradioguy on January 14, 2019, 10:04:06 PM

Except most of what he's promised is turning to merde. See the wall, trade imbalance, coal, and steel as examples.


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-promises-coal-steel-china-trade-falling-flat-235120673.html;_ylt=Awr9DtO9Rj1cFWkAiddx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTE0NWkzdWo4BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVUkyRkJUMl8xBHNlYwNzYw--

Funny how that works...
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 14, 2019, 10:07:13 PM
It wasn't awful @Hoodat ... it was just childish and petty.  I started it by saying that @RoosGirl is not as funny as she thinks she is and she got her little buddy to chime in calling me a drunk.

I shouldn't have taken offense but sometimes ....


This would be your post, right?

Bullshit. @RoosGirl and @Amb. Frank Cannon are the best act around.
Only if you've had way too many drinks.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 14, 2019, 10:17:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bemu1bI.gif)


Who is this directed to?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: edpc on January 14, 2019, 10:19:41 PM
Who is this directed to?


People who end sentences with prepositions.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 14, 2019, 10:20:31 PM

People who end sentences with prepositions.

LOL
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 14, 2019, 10:20:59 PM
Who is this directed to?

It wasn't directed *to* anyone.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 14, 2019, 10:24:25 PM

People who end sentences with prepositions.

Good point.  How about this:  To whom is @RoosGirl addressing her spew of personal insults?

Better?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 14, 2019, 10:24:44 PM
(http://d2ws0xxnnorfdo.cloudfront.net/meme/362396)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 14, 2019, 10:25:01 PM
My masochistic side was hoping it was directed at me.  For some strange reason, the disappointment of discovering it wasn't denies me that pleasure.  Thanks a lot, RIV.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 14, 2019, 10:26:32 PM
It wasn't directed *to* anyone.

 :bsflag:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 14, 2019, 10:27:33 PM
My masochistic side was hoping it was directed at me.  For some strange reason, the disappointment of discovering it wasn't denies me that pleasure.  Thanks a lot, RIV.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 14, 2019, 10:28:06 PM
:bsflag:

You caught me.  It was directed to you.   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: edpc on January 14, 2019, 10:28:30 PM
Good point.  How about this:  To whom is @RoosGirl addressing her spew of personal insults?

Better?


Perfect. Bonus points for use of the colon.   👍
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 14, 2019, 10:30:12 PM

Perfect. Bonus points for use of the colon.   👍

Just go ahead and tell her she's talking out of her ass.  Wait, maybe we're talking about two different things.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: corbe on January 14, 2019, 10:31:30 PM
   Colon, that's deep Man.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 14, 2019, 10:42:45 PM

Perfect. Bonus points for use of the colon.   👍

Heavens, it takes so little to please you.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 14, 2019, 10:43:24 PM
Just go ahead and tell her she's talking out of her ass.  Wait, maybe we're talking about two different things.

Trying to hard to be clever, dear.   **nononono*
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 14, 2019, 10:45:56 PM
Trying to hard to be clever, dear.   **nononono*

You goose, you delight me every time you respond to my not-so-clever comments.  Dear.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 14, 2019, 10:53:08 PM
Hey gang! I see a lot of postin' going on here. I miss anything good? Did the govt' open back up and the wall is being built?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: edpc on January 14, 2019, 10:55:40 PM
(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/aqkA0OMvpsumvjiTJrFWWA--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD0yNDM7dz0zNjU-/https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xGRWMlHdGB1vMs/giphy.gif.cf.gif)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 14, 2019, 11:01:24 PM
(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/VQV0eJFZrw_ELuxUUsnMmw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD0yMzY7dz00MjA-/https://media.giphy.com/media/p9hA5qh8prUFW/giphy.gif.cf.gif)

Oh cute!  They're dancing.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 14, 2019, 11:04:39 PM
Hey gang! I see a lot of postin' going on here. I miss anything good? Did the govt' open back up and the wall is being built?



Wall is already built, where the bleep you been?

(http://www.oldpaintdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/IMG_6449-1024x682.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 14, 2019, 11:11:28 PM


Wall is already built, where the bleep you been?

(http://www.oldpaintdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/IMG_6449-1024x682.jpg)

Awesome. Time to shut this effer down and start posting threads about how GD cool Trump is!!!!
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 14, 2019, 11:20:09 PM
Awesome. Time to shut this effer down and start posting threads about how GD cool Trump is!!!!

I was going to give you a big thumbs up, but I can't find it.  Would you settle for a middle finger?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on January 14, 2019, 11:23:16 PM
Awesome. Time to shut this effer down and start posting threads about how GD cool Trump is!!!!

Yep - "Leader of the Pack".

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/51/3c/c4/513cc460a7f57ca863e81507faebb8f3.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 14, 2019, 11:23:45 PM
I was going to give you a big thumbs up, but I can't find it.  Would you settle for a middle finger?

Screw that noise. I detest average and the middle of anything is average. 
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 14, 2019, 11:25:17 PM
Yep - "Leader of the Pack".

Damn straight! Those pansy fruits Obama and Bush couldn't pull that look off.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: edpc on January 14, 2019, 11:27:50 PM


Wall is already built, where the bleep you been?

(http://www.oldpaintdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/IMG_6449-1024x682.jpg)


Wall and a wheel. Positively medieval. Who built it, Marcellus Wallace?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on January 14, 2019, 11:28:44 PM
Damn straight! Those pansy fruits Obama and Bush couldn't pull that look off.

 :rolling: :rolling:    888high58888
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on January 15, 2019, 12:02:32 AM
Damn straight! Those pansy fruits Obama and Bush couldn't pull that look off.

True enough, but Biden's got the combover pretty much nailed down.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 15, 2019, 12:05:06 AM
True enough, but Biden's got the combover pretty much nailed down.

Yeah, but Creepy Joe's bad comb over isn't his own hair. It is from some dead muskrat he bought at a rummage sale and had transplanted.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: roamer_1 on January 15, 2019, 12:33:54 AM
Yeah, but Creepy Joe's bad comb over isn't his own hair. It is from some dead muskrat he bought at a rummage sale and had transplanted.

I think he won it off of Jim Trafficant ... strip poker or something...
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 15, 2019, 12:38:42 AM
I think he won it off of Jim Trafficant ... strip poker or something...

You don't say. Beam me up Scotty!
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: verga on January 15, 2019, 05:54:52 AM
Just go ahead and tell her she's talking out of her ass.  Wait, maybe we're talking about two different things.
If he uses a semicolon is the comment only half assed?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 15, 2019, 08:16:48 AM
If he uses a semicolon is the comment only half assed?

Yes. Yes it is.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 15, 2019, 08:11:46 PM
Good point.  How about this:  To whom is @RoosGirl addressing her spew of personal insults?

Better?

Nope, “of personal insults” is a prepositional phrase.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 15, 2019, 08:14:30 PM
Trying to hard to be clever, dear.   **nononono*

Too her credit, @RoosGirl does not try to hard at all. It comes to naturally too her.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 15, 2019, 08:15:55 PM
Too her credit, @RoosGirl does not try to hard at all. It comes to naturally too her.

Two funny
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: goodwithagun on January 15, 2019, 08:17:00 PM
Two funny

This could be a drinking game! Oh wait, are we allowed to talk about alcohol yet?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: XenaLee on January 15, 2019, 08:20:05 PM
Just go ahead and tell her she's talking out of her ass.  Wait, maybe we're talking about two different things.

Nope.  Sounds like the same thing to me.    :silly:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 15, 2019, 08:21:48 PM
This could be a drinking game! Oh wait, are we allowed to talk about alcohol yet?

I don't think so.  Seems to be a sensitive subject for some people.  Maybe they're friends of Bill.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on January 15, 2019, 08:24:25 PM
I don't think so.  Seems to be a sensitive subject for some people.  Maybe they're friends of Bill.

Bill who?  I didn't know we weren't supposed to be talking about alcohol.  Same goes for pot then??
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 15, 2019, 08:28:37 PM
I don't think so.  Seems to be a sensitive subject for some people.  Maybe they're friends of Bill.

Hush yo' mouth, Miss Roos.  Bill is a righteous dude.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 15, 2019, 08:33:56 PM
Bill who?  I didn't know we weren't supposed to be talking about alcohol.  Same goes for pot then??

"Friends of Bill" is a euphemism for a member of Alcoholics Anonymous.  The first name of the guy that founded AA was William.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 15, 2019, 08:36:41 PM
Hush yo' mouth, Miss Roos.  Bill is a righteous dude.

Well I didn't say there was anything wrong with Bill, or his friends, did I?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: libertybele on January 15, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
"Friends of Bill" is a euphemism for a member of Alcoholics Anonymous.  The first name of the guy that founded AA was William.

Thanks for the info.   :beer:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 15, 2019, 08:46:51 PM
Well I didn't say there was anything wrong with Bill, or his friends, did I?

Just didn't want to see him be slandered by associating him with other posters.  I happen to be a fan.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 15, 2019, 08:52:04 PM
Just didn't want to see him be slandered by associating him with other posters.  I happen to be a fan.

Ahhh, so you're thinking they're just drunks and not alcoholics?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Hoodat on January 15, 2019, 08:54:49 PM
Ahhh, so you're thinking they're just drunks and not alcoholics?

You would have to ask Emjay since she is the one who brought up drinking to begin with.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 15, 2019, 08:59:41 PM
You would have to ask Emjay since she is the one who brought up drinking to begin with.

She did, didn't she?  Meh, I don't care enough to ask.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: roamer_1 on January 15, 2019, 11:22:56 PM
This could be a drinking game! Oh wait, are we allowed to talk about alcohol yet?

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPCjC543llU#)
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: roamer_1 on January 15, 2019, 11:24:52 PM
Nope.  Sounds like the same thing to me.    :silly:

Voice is different but the breath smells the same...  :shrug:

 :silly:
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 15, 2019, 11:42:06 PM
Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPCjC543llU#)

The first half of that video was shot in Jupiter (where I grew up) at the Square Grouper.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 15, 2019, 11:45:57 PM
The first half of that video was shot in Jupiter (where I grew up) at the Square Grouper.

So you are from a place that produces music for the mullet crowd?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 15, 2019, 11:47:15 PM
So you are from a place that produces music for the mullet crowd?

You understand the difference between a music video and a music studio, yes?
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 15, 2019, 11:48:45 PM
Besides, it's Grouper, square if you please, which should be right up your alley.  Not mullet.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 15, 2019, 11:53:40 PM
You understand the difference between a music video and a music studio, yes?

I understand just enough about the South to know not to live there.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: roamer_1 on January 15, 2019, 11:53:44 PM
The first half of that video was shot in Jupiter (where I grew up) at the Square Grouper.

That's awesome!

Though you should have said you are in the video... That'd keep Frank busy for hours.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 15, 2019, 11:55:10 PM
Though you should have said you are in the video... That'd keep Frank busy for hours.

I banged her last week in a hit and run. I don't need to see any more of her.
Title: Re: Trump: I'm still waiting for Democrats to make a deal to end shutdown
Post by: RoosGirl on January 15, 2019, 11:55:46 PM
I understand just enough about the South to know not to live there.

Another thing for me to be thankful for today.