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Title: Young Central Texas barrel racer dies in freak accident
Post by: thackney on March 20, 2017, 03:22:07 PM
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Post by: Frank Cannon on March 20, 2017, 03:32:07 PM
Horses are big, stupid and dangerous.
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Post by: thackney on March 20, 2017, 03:45:34 PM
Horses are big, stupid and dangerous.

As a rider, and the parent of a barrel racer, I would have to say you are correct.
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Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 20, 2017, 03:50:18 PM
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Post by: Sanguine on March 20, 2017, 03:55:32 PM
Sad story. 
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Post by: thackney on March 20, 2017, 03:57:11 PM
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Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 20, 2017, 04:07:20 PM

My daughter races in this arena.  We had good friends at this rodeo.  It was the girl's last run of the day.  After rearing up, the horse rolled over her.  They life-flighted her out.

As @Sanguine noted, very sad.  Sad stories happen while living life, don't they?  Prayers for the family.
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Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on March 21, 2017, 09:52:47 AM
A ten year old in a fast race like this does not compute.

Need more maturity and strength to turn the horse.
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Post by: thackney on March 21, 2017, 09:59:40 AM
A ten year old in a fast race like this does not compute.

Need more maturity and strength to turn the horse.

We compete in youth rodeo's nearly every weekend.  8 year olds and up are always in the groups.  For many families, it is an everyday fact of horse riding.  Our youngest, turning 8 soon, has been riding for years.  I had horses growing up far younger than her.  At 12 I broke our colt to the saddle.

It depends a LOT on the horse.

All that said, it also depends a lot on the kid.  I know a 11 year old, small frame girl, that runs the heck out of horses I am afraid to even set upon.
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Post by: Cripplecreek on March 21, 2017, 10:06:07 AM
As @Sanguine noted, very sad.  Sad stories happen while living life, don't they?  Prayers for the family.

My great grandmother had what looked like deformed fingers on both hands but one hand was mangled when she got it caught in the rigging while harnessing horses to a wagon when she was a teenager. Something spooked the horses and they reared up. The pinky on her other hand was bitten and broken by a horse when she was a little kid.

Not too many hospitals in Mancelona MI in the early 1900s so they did the best they could to set the bones at home.
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Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on March 22, 2017, 06:33:07 PM
We compete in youth rodeo's nearly every weekend.  8 year olds and up are always in the groups.  For many families, it is an everyday fact of horse riding.  Our youngest, turning 8 soon, has been riding for years.  I had horses growing up far younger than her.  At 12 I broke our colt to the saddle.

It depends a LOT on the horse.

All that said, it also depends a lot on the kid.  I know a 11 year old, small frame girl, that runs the heck out of horses I am afraid to even set upon.
That is a large animal, high strung to run better, trying to be handled by a weak person.

I know it is done all the time, but the odds are there that calamity is more prone when a youngster is the handler rather than a mature person.

My wife is on the Houston Livestock Show every year as a volunteer, so we see it frequently.
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Post by: mrpotatohead on March 22, 2017, 11:01:19 PM
A good friend of mine breeds barrel racing horses.  It is amazing how much those things cost. 

I am so sorry to hear of this young girl losing her life.  Prayers for her family.
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Post by: Smokin Joe on March 23, 2017, 12:18:01 AM
It can be tough for a parent as well as the participant.  My daughter has scars from it, including from the pins used to hold her arm together while it healed.

It is not a sport for the timid.

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My daughter races in this arena.  We had good friends at this rodeo.  It was the girl's last run of the day.  After rearing up, the horse rolled over her.  They life-flighted her out.
A cousin of mine used to barrel race (and purt'near anything else that could be done on horseback). She had a wall full of ribbons, mostly blue and red, and a stable full of horses by the time she turned 18. She rolled her car and messed up her neck, and that was the end of that, but before that, watching her ride was a joy.

It's sad about this young lady, and my prayers are up for the family.
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Post by: roamer_1 on March 23, 2017, 12:23:38 AM
A ten year old in a fast race like this does not compute.

Need more maturity and strength to turn the horse.

I was busting broncs at that age... Granted, they were probably the kinder, gentler green stock, but that's how you learn
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Post by: geronl on March 23, 2017, 01:43:20 AM
You can die walking on a sidewalk or doing just about anything else.
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Post by: thackney on March 23, 2017, 08:17:30 AM
That is a large animal, high strung to run better, trying to be handled by a weak person.

I don't know this one in particular.  Most of the time, at this young age, we mostly see horses so gentle and well trained there is little effort at all required.  There are exceptions certainly, but we have even seen kids fall off and the horse complete the pattern without the rider.

The majority at this lower competitive level (as this event was) are not that high strung horse (like my daughter's freakout horse).

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I know it is done all the time, but the odds are there that calamity is more prone when a youngster is the handler rather than a mature person.

My wife is on the Houston Livestock Show every year as a volunteer, so we see it frequently.

Houston is not a typical youth rodeo.  And that is a hard event most won't consider going to.  There is too much noise and commotion, the horses tend to get all jacked up.  Even Fort Bend County Fair has gotten bad with all the high noise level and no real room to warm up away from a crowd.  Far different atmosphere than at the  Buddy and Edile Lightsey Arena at the Burleson County Fair Grounds in Caldwell.
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Post by: ConstitutionRose on March 23, 2017, 09:02:02 AM
I don't know this one in particular.  Most of the time, at this young age, we mostly see horses so gentle and well trained there is little effort at all required.  There are exceptions certainly, but we have even seen kids fall off and the horse complete the pattern without the rider.

The majority at this lower competitive level (as this event was) are not that high strung horse (like my daughter's freakout horse).

5 decades ago the mare I rode did all the work herself, all I had to do was stay in the saddle.  Until the day someone cut my saddle cinch nearly through.  I leaned hard, the cinch parted and I essentially rolled right under her feet.  Couldn't blame her for the freakout. 

I hadn't paid any attention to barrel racing in years.  I'm astounded at the prices on horses and gear these days.

It's just me, but that girls are probably safer with horses than they will ever be with cars as teenagers.
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Post by: thackney on March 23, 2017, 09:05:23 AM
I hadn't paid any attention to barrel racing in years.  I'm astounded at the prices on horses and gear these days.

There is no top end, someone willing to pay even more will always find something more expensive.

I'm amazed at the $150,000 dollar trailers with a custom $100,000 big rig truck carrying the $50,000 horse for the $100 jackpot Daddy's little girl is running in.
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Post by: Cripplecreek on March 23, 2017, 09:21:06 AM
5 decades ago the mare I rode did all the work herself, all I had to do was stay in the saddle.  Until the day someone cut my saddle cinch nearly through.  I leaned hard, the cinch parted and I essentially rolled right under her feet.  Couldn't blame her for the freakout. 

I hadn't paid any attention to barrel racing in years.  I'm astounded at the prices on horses and gear these days.

It's just me, but that girls are probably safer with horses than they will ever be with cars as teenagers.

I had a girlfriend who had a horse that liked to charge me. It would make a bee line for me at a full gallop, slide to a stop and snort in my face. It was friendly with me but that was just its thing when it came to me.
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Post by: roamer_1 on March 23, 2017, 09:32:46 AM
I had a girlfriend who had a horse that liked to charge me. It would make a bee line for me at a full gallop, slide to a stop and snort in my face. It was friendly with me but that was just its thing when it came to me.

Brings me to mind of an Arab stud I once trained. He liked me fine, and listened pretty good too, but when I stepped up to greet him, you'd swear he was going to tear me down. Full roaring gallop, snaking his head around, rearing up and pawing the air right in front of my face...

But he was just getting his giggles out. As soon as he was done carrying on, he'd drop down, put his ears forward and nuzzle around for a sugar cube.
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Post by: endicom on March 23, 2017, 09:38:14 AM
I had a girlfriend who had a horse that liked to charge me. It would make a bee line for me at a full gallop, slide to a stop and snort in my face. It was friendly with me but that was just its thing when it came to me.


Was the horse named NeverTrump?
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Post by: Cripplecreek on March 23, 2017, 09:42:28 AM

Was the horse named NeverTrump?

Well it was a smart horse so it might have been.
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Post by: thackney on March 23, 2017, 10:31:10 AM
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Post by: ConstitutionRose on March 23, 2017, 10:59:26 AM
I had a girlfriend who had a horse that liked to charge me. It would make a bee line for me at a full gallop, slide to a stop and snort in my face. It was friendly with me but that was just its thing when it came to me.

That's better than one I had who specialized in running me under every low horizontal he could find.  If he succeeded in scrapping me off, he' just stop dead in his tracks and wait for me to get back in the saddle.  Apparently it was all good fun to him.
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Post by: thackney on March 23, 2017, 11:05:38 AM
That's better than one I had who specialized in running me under every low horizontal he could find.  If he succeeded in scrapping me off, he' just stop dead in his tracks and wait for me to get back in the saddle.  Apparently it was all good fun to him.

Related to:
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Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on March 23, 2017, 01:22:33 PM
Sad story. Prayers for the family.
Went out with her boots on, has to count for something.
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Post by: GrouchoTex on March 23, 2017, 02:15:49 PM
As a rider, and the parent of a barrel racer, I would have to say you are correct.

You are right.

Like dogs, I think they have an intelligence level of about a 3 year old.

Very sad story,
I love the Caldwell area.

As a 12 year old, I was thrown from my horse in the middle of a parade, right to the asphalt.
Spooky, but the worse for me was being stiff for 2 weeks, nothing broken.
I got lucky.

I few years later, I was riding with some inexperienced riders, who decided to run have the horses run through a plowed field.
Bad idea.
I barely got the "N" out of the word "Noooooo!!" when, sure enough, one horse stumbled and threw my Uncle's girl friend head first.
She seemed fine, but later in life had neck issues and had to have surgery, due to the incident.
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Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on March 23, 2017, 04:32:10 PM
I don't know this one in particular.  Most of the time, at this young age, we mostly see horses so gentle and well trained there is little effort at all required.  There are exceptions certainly, but we have even seen kids fall off and the horse complete the pattern without the rider.

The majority at this lower competitive level (as this event was) are not that high strung horse (like my daughter's freakout horse).
I have seen parents so competitive they would take a riskier bet on a quicker horse for their child.

That is what I am most concerned about.
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Post by: Sanguine on March 23, 2017, 04:36:21 PM
I have seen parents so competitive they would take a riskier bet on a quicker horse for their child.

That is what I am most concerned about.

Yes, but it's a "freak accident" meaning that occurrences are rare.
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Post by: thackney on March 23, 2017, 04:38:00 PM
I have seen parents so competitive they would take a riskier bet on a quicker horse for their child.

That is what I am most concerned about.

No doubt those parents exist in every sport.  I haven't found them common in the youth rodeos of this area.  I have seen people thrown out of competitions for unsafe or inhumane treatment of their horse.
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Post by: thackney on March 23, 2017, 04:41:25 PM
I have seen parents so competitive they would take a riskier bet on a quicker horse for their child.

That is what I am most concerned about.

One other thing we have learned with experience.  The fastest times are NOT the fastest horse.  It is the best controlled horse in the turns.

I don't care how fast a horse is in the straight.  An about average horse making perfect turns is faster than a speed demon wide and sloppy in the turns.

A kid that has trouble controlling a fast horse isn't going to win at most competition for this reason.
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Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on March 23, 2017, 04:43:23 PM
One other thing we have learned with experience.  The fastest times are NOT the fastest horse.  It is the best controlled horse in the turns.

I don't care how fast a horse is in the straight.  An about average horse making perfect turns is faster than a speed demon wide and sloppy in the turns.

A kid that has trouble controlling a fast horse isn't going to win at most competition for this reason.
That's why I said 'quick' and not 'fast'.

A child, and a ten year old is indeed one, is just less capable of steering a horse bred for competition.
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Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 23, 2017, 04:45:44 PM
Everything has risk and it is horrific and sad when something like this happens.  Farm kids operate power equipment.  I introduced my boys to firearms at a very early age.  Little league has its risks.  Football.  Simply walking to school.  It is so sad to lose a child but we can't put them in bubble wrap.  Prayers for the family.
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Post by: thackney on March 23, 2017, 05:07:16 PM
That's why I said 'quick' and not 'fast'.

A child, and a ten year old is indeed one, is just less capable of steering a horse bred for competition.

You have a great day.  God Bless
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Post by: Smokin Joe on March 23, 2017, 06:17:54 PM


It's just me, but that girls are probably safer with horses than they will ever be with cars as teenagers.
It was that way with my cousin. She'd been on horses (by herself) since she could reach the stirrups. She got a pony. :laugh: and was a consummate rider. It was her old Buick that ended her riding career.