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Title: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: mystery-ak on January 11, 2017, 12:08:23 PM
It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat

    Arizona Senator who disowned Trump before election admits he handed document outlining claims of Kremlin blackmail to FBI
    Brief statement claims that he received it and gave it directly to FBI Director James Comey because he was 'unable to make judgment about accuracy'
    But Washington reporter Carl Bernstein says former British ambassador to Moscow handed it to McCain
    Ambassador has not been named - and author of report also gave to FBI agent he knew at its station in Rome months ago
    Report was apparently paid for first BY Republican enemies of Trump then by Democrats

By Darren Boyle for MailOnline

Published: 06:48 EST, 11 January 2017 | Updated: 11:06 EST, 11 January 2017

   
Sworn Donald Trump enemy John McCain admitted Wednesday that he passed the dossier of claims of a Russian blackmail plot against the president-elect.

The Arizona senator issued a public statement amid mounting questions of his exact role in the affair - and how a document riddled with errors and unverifiable claims came to be published.

'Late last year, I received sensitive information that has since been made public,' he said.

'Upon examination of the contents, and unable to make a judgment about their accuracy, I delivered the information to the Director of the FBI.

'That has been the extent of my contact with the FBI or any other government agency regarding this issue.'

But the 2008 Republican loser, who disowned his party's candidate weeks before the election, may have been far more intimately involved than that.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4108960/How-Trump-s-nemesis-John-McCain-kicked-Kremlin-memo-scandal-handing-dossier-FBI-sending-emissary-abroad-collect-it.html
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 11, 2017, 12:13:10 PM
Only someone as genuinely stupid as John McLame would read this 35 page report and think it is real.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: HonestJohn on January 11, 2017, 12:14:13 PM
Wasn't someone here saying this was a 4-chan hoax?

Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: libertybele on January 11, 2017, 12:21:00 PM
I hope in some way this puts an end to McCain and sheds some light to his dishonesty. I would love nothing more than he be asked to resign.  Dishonest John McCain needs to go! 
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Cripplecreek on January 11, 2017, 12:40:55 PM
Wasn't someone here saying this was a 4-chan hoax?

That was the old excuse. The hive mind has moved on.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2017, 12:47:48 PM
That was the old excuse. The hive mind has moved on.

Irony:   you wouldn't recognize the irony here even after it has jumped up and bit you on the a##.   
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 11, 2017, 12:48:00 PM
That was the old excuse. The hive mind has moved on.

So you believe the 35 page report?
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 11, 2017, 12:53:28 PM
 :eatdrink:
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: libertybele on January 11, 2017, 01:06:25 PM
The point is McCain has bowed before the liberal kingmakers so many times, that he will use anything to try to "disown" his own party.  He wanted business as usual with his pal Hillary in charge.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Sanguine on January 11, 2017, 04:32:54 PM
So you believe the 35 page report?

Well, do you @DCPatriot?
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Wingnut on January 11, 2017, 04:35:43 PM
:eatdrink:

Move over and stop hogging the pop corn.  Give me a pull on that Coke i'm thirsty.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 11, 2017, 04:58:19 PM
Move over and stop hogging the pop corn.  Give me a pull on that Coke i'm thirsty.

"I'll be happy to sell you some!"  First Rule of Acquisition.

J/K...have all you want, Wingding.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: mrclose on January 11, 2017, 07:06:58 PM
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WASHINGTON

A Russian venture capitalist and tech expert whose name and company are mentioned in the now-notorious document alleging connections between the Donald Trump campaign and Russian hackers says no intelligence officers have ever contacted him about the accusations, which he says are false.


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article125910774.html


Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Wingnut on January 11, 2017, 07:09:20 PM
"I'll be happy to sell you some!"  First Rule of Acquisition.

J/K...have all you want, Wingding.

 ^-^
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 11, 2017, 07:16:22 PM
Move over and stop hogging the pop corn.  Give me a pull snort on that Coke i'm thirsty.

There. Fixed it.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2017, 07:17:38 PM
Well, do you @DCPatriot?

1)  Of course not.

2)  Last Summer you directed me to never ping you.   Show some respect and reciprocate, okay?
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Vulcan on January 11, 2017, 07:20:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jYA0YWq.jpg)
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: libertybele on January 11, 2017, 07:21:58 PM
([url]http://i.imgur.com/jYA0YWq.jpg[/url])


I'm in ... how much in donations do you still need?
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Sanguine on January 11, 2017, 07:25:14 PM
1)  Of course not.

2)  Last Summer you directed me to never ping you.   Show some respect and reciprocate, okay?

My apologies, @DCPatriot. I had gone into a forgive and move on stage after the elections and assumed that most of us here, particularly those who have been here a long time, would also do the same.  I won't make that mistake again.  Consider yourself de-pinged.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2017, 07:47:43 PM
My apologies, @DCPatriot. I had gone into a forgive and move on stage after the elections and assumed that most of us here, particularly those who have been here a long time, would also do the same.  I won't make that mistake again.  Consider yourself de-pinged.

Not getting off that easy.

All you had to do was apologize, ..."particularly [to] those who have been here a long time", for that post last Summer.  Instead you just thought I could read your mind.



Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Sanguine on January 11, 2017, 07:54:31 PM
Not getting off that easy.

All you had to do was apologize, ..."particularly [to] those who have been here a long time", for that post last Summer.  Instead you just thought I could read your mind.

Nope, because if you expected anyone to apologize to you, that would have required a lot of apologies on your part, and I just don't think you're that kind of guy. 

Now that we have established that, let's get back on topic, shall we?
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Wingnut on January 11, 2017, 07:57:13 PM
There. Fixed it.

 8888crybaby
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: corbe on January 11, 2017, 08:03:59 PM
Nope, because if you expected anyone to apologize to you, that would have required a lot of apologies on your part, and I just don't think you're that kind of guy. 

Now that we have established that, let's get back on topic, shall we?

   must have been a dousy @Sanguine if his butt still hurts 6 months later.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Cripplecreek on January 11, 2017, 08:05:54 PM
As much as I dislike John McCain its still not as much as I enjoy the impotent rage of Trumpers in their inability to stop him.  :silly:
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Sanguine on January 11, 2017, 08:06:40 PM
   must have been a dousy @Sanguine if his butt still hurts 6 months later.

Musta been.  I don't remember.   :shrug:
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 11, 2017, 08:08:27 PM
Not getting off that easy.
What, are you going to falsely accuse her of public lewdness like you did me?
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Bigun on January 11, 2017, 08:09:49 PM
McCain!   :3:
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2017, 08:25:36 PM
   must have been a dousy @Sanguine if his butt still hurts 6 months later.

So you want to continue this, huh?

I've never had any direct confrontations with @Sanguine that I can recall.   Ever.

Out of respect, I pinged her once, since her remarks were part of the ongoing discussion.

Imagine my surprise, when out of the blue, she publicly told me never to ping her again.

If anybody had "butt hurt"....which was declared verboten in here, btw.....it was her.   Just because she happened to dislike Donald Trump.

I don't forget anything. 
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2017, 08:27:04 PM
What, are you going to falsely accuse her of public lewdness like you did me?

That was a joke, little buddy.   Run along.   
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: corbe on January 11, 2017, 08:39:22 PM
So you want to continue this, huh?

I've never had any direct confrontations with @Sanguine that I can recall.   Ever.

Out of respect, I pinged her once, since her remarks were part of the ongoing discussion.

Imagine my surprise, when out of the blue, she publicly told me never to ping her again.

If anybody had "butt hurt"....which was declared verboten in here, btw.....it was her.   Just because she happened to dislike Donald Trump.

I don't forget anything. 

 @DCPatriot  I don't want to start no crap up, and unlike you I forget most everything, including that my derogatory term was verboten. 
 @Sanguine has a very good point, some of us here are hopelessly #nevertrump or #nevercruz but most are tolerable souls that have MOVED ON.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Bigun on January 11, 2017, 08:41:31 PM
So you want to continue this, huh?

I don't forget anything.

Perhaps it's time you learned how.  Just sayin.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2017, 08:46:51 PM
Perhaps it's time you learned how.  Just sayin.

You and I have made peace, @Bigun

Others think they are above it, and just think their sh*t doesn't stink.

What she did was tantamount to the 'knock-out game'.....cold cocked me out of the blue, having never exchanged cross words between us in this ....or even previous forums in which we belonged.

Screw that.   
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2017, 08:48:42 PM
@DCPatriot  I don't want to start no crap up, and unlike you I forget most everything, including that my derogatory term was verboten. 
 @Sanguine has a very good point, some of us here are hopelessly #nevertrump or #nevercruz but most are tolerable souls that have MOVED ON.

You're full of crap.

I was the FIRST one in here after the election to make peace with many nevertrumpers here.

I've moved on.    Suggest the NeverTrumpers smell themselves.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 11, 2017, 08:50:16 PM
So you want to continue this, huh?

I've never had any direct confrontations with @Sanguine that I can recall.   Ever.

Out of respect, I pinged her once, since her remarks were part of the ongoing discussion.

Imagine my surprise, when out of the blue, she publicly told me never to ping her again.

If anybody had "butt hurt"....which was declared verboten in here, btw.....it was her.   Just because she happened to dislike Donald Trump.

I don't forget anything.

I don't claim to know everything that goes around around here, but that sounds a lot like holding a grudge.  I hope that's not it, I consider you all friends....
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2017, 08:53:33 PM

I don't claim to know everything that goes around around here, but that sounds a lot like holding a grudge.  I hope that's not it, I consider you all friends....


And so....it shouldn't make any difference to you.    :laugh:

All she had to do was apologize for her rudeness.   
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 11, 2017, 08:57:10 PM
And so....it shouldn't make any difference to you.    :laugh:

All she had to do was apologize for her rudeness.

I will sleep soundly.  It's just that I hate to see two friends fighting, is all.  I'll get over it.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: corbe on January 11, 2017, 09:01:15 PM
@DCPatriot

You're full of crap.

   You Sir are correct.
Quote

I was the FIRST one in here after the election to make peace with many nevertrumpers here.

I've moved on.    Suggest the NeverTrumpers smell themselves.

   After my hangover (2 days), I also vowed to moveon, and each day brings me closer to that goal.
   If you're expecting me to love your guy, that will never, ever happen and I will criticize him as I see fit because I do that to people that have been a NY Liberal their whole lives, just as I will also criticize Sen. Cruz, or any politician if they screw up.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: libertybele on January 11, 2017, 09:09:33 PM
Come on now friends and gather round ... for Pete's sake, let's ALL move on!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1k6vioRQB8

Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: corbe on January 11, 2017, 09:14:01 PM
   At the height of the Trump/Cruz war I probably had 6 or 7 posters on my Ignore list, even @sinkspur lived there for awhile, I'm down to 1 that doesn't post here much. 
   This is the best dysfunctional family I've ever had.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: DCPatriot on January 11, 2017, 09:17:00 PM
@DCPatriot

   You Sir are correct.
   After my hangover (2 days), I also vowed to moveon, and each day brings me closer to that goal.
   If you're expecting me to love your guy, that will never, ever happen and I will criticize him as I see fit because I do that to people that have been a NY Liberal their whole lives, just as I will also criticize Sen. Cruz, or any politician if they screw up.

I'm not asking for you or anybody to "love my guy".

You and I have been able to disagree without declaring 'war'.   
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Chosen Daughter on January 12, 2017, 12:46:27 AM
Arizona Senator who disowned Trump before election admits he handed document outlining claims of Kremlin blackmail to FBI
    Brief statement claims that he received it and gave it directly to FBI Director James Comey


What is wrong with that?  He didn't go to the Enquirer and publish it as truth the way Trump did when he published the fake news of Ted Cruz father.
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: HonestJohn on January 12, 2017, 12:57:36 AM
[url]http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article125910774.html[/url]


Why would anyone assume spycraft means going up to a target and simply asking for the information?!?
Title: Re: It was me: Sworn Trump enemy John McCain admits HE handed smear dossier to FBI - as details surface of document's bizarre journey from British former spy and diplomat
Post by: Once-Ler on January 12, 2017, 02:00:58 AM
Arizona Senator who disowned Trump before election admits he handed document outlining claims of Kremlin blackmail to FBI
    Brief statement claims that he received it and gave it directly to FBI Director James Comey

What is wrong with that?  He didn't go to the Enquirer and publish it as truth the way Trump did when he published the fake news of Ted Cruz father.

That is a pretty good question.