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Post by: Once-Ler on February 22, 2014, 07:10:18 AM
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Post by: aligncare on February 22, 2014, 07:35:44 AM
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Post by: Once-Ler on February 22, 2014, 07:42:33 AM
Americans, like many here, are tired of politics as usual. The good old boys gave us 100 trillion in unfunded liability and 17 trillion in debt last year. This year it will be higher. So, what part of "serious" and "economic collapse" do politicians not understand?

You sound like you need more rat representation to convince you.  I hope you don't get it.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 22, 2014, 07:57:10 AM
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The job of the Republican party until 2016 is to limit the damage that Obama can inflict on the nation and the world.

If this is their job, then Republicans have failed miserably.  And that, Mona, is why it is necessary to call out the members of the Republican party who are entrenched in the status quo or too frightened to stand in opposition to this Obama regime.

We live in a brave new political world and not the one you remember from your youth.  It's past time to snap out of it.
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Post by: massadvj on February 22, 2014, 08:33:21 AM
I think I would prefer being represented by Democrats who stab me in the front, as opposed to the GOPe which stabs me in the back.  At least with Democrats I know who and what I am dealing with, and can much more easily prepare myself for what they have in store.  Republicans talk the talk but in actuality support business as usual.  We would not have a $17 trillion deficit except that it was enabled by the GOP.  It may be inconvenient to point that out to folks during this GOP primary season, but I am afraid the very reason we hold primaries is to cleanse the party of impurities.
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Post by: Once-Ler on February 22, 2014, 09:27:59 AM
I think I would prefer being represented by Democrats who stab me in the front, as opposed to the GOPe which stabs me in the back. 

real conservatives prefer rat.
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Post by: sinkspur on February 22, 2014, 10:13:46 AM
I think I would prefer being represented by Democrats who stab me in the front, as opposed to the GOPe which stabs me in the back.  At least with Democrats I know who and what I am dealing with, and can much more easily prepare myself for what they have in store.  Republicans talk the talk but in actuality support business as usual.  We would not have a $17 trillion deficit except that it was enabled by the GOP.  It may be inconvenient to point that out to folks during this GOP primary season, but I am afraid the very reason we hold primaries is to cleanse the party of impurities.

Replacing sewage with nuclear waste is not cleansing.  Have you really looked at some of these primary challengers? 

Again, Ted Cruz reminds me of an old uncle of mine who thought everybody else in the world was nuts but him.

Cruz looks around and has almost NO SUPPORT for his stridency in the Senate and he says that it's the 44 OTHER SENATORS who are out to lunch.

I had completely forgotten about his near screw-up of the Senate gun legislation last year. 
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Post by: sinkspur on February 22, 2014, 10:16:34 AM
If this is their job, then Republicans have failed miserably.  And that, Mona, is why it is necessary to call out the members of the Republican party who are entrenched in the status quo or too frightened to stand in opposition to this Obama regime.

We live in a brave new political world and not the one you remember from your youth.  It's past time to snap out of it.

We do not live in a brave new world when it comes to the way politics works, and Cruz seems clueless to the fact that one-man crusades in Congress never succeed.

Persuasion is much more effective than confrontation.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 22, 2014, 10:38:24 AM
We do not live in a brave new world when it comes to the way politics works...

Seriously?  When was the last time we had a blatant Marxist in the White House fundamentally changing America, a complete enabler "leading" the Senate and a cooperative media?

We are not living through "the way politics works".  We are living through a silent, unchecked coup against the American rule of law and our freedoms.  Yesterday's political strategies have not and cannot work against this.  We need more like Cruz.

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Post by: katzenjammer on February 22, 2014, 10:39:36 AM
I think I would prefer being represented by Democrats who stab me in the front, as opposed to the GOPe which stabs me in the back.  At least with Democrats I know who and what I am dealing with, and can much more easily prepare myself for what they have in store.  Republicans talk the talk but in actuality support business as usual.  We would not have a $17 trillion deficit except that it was enabled by the GOP.  It may be inconvenient to point that out to folks during this GOP primary season, but I am afraid the very reason we hold primaries is to cleanse the party of impurities.

 :thumbsup2:
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Post by: katzenjammer on February 22, 2014, 10:40:16 AM
Seriously?  When was the last time we had a blatant Marxist in the White House fundamentally changing America, a complete enabler "leading" the Senate and a cooperative media?

We are not living through "the way politics works".  We are living through a silent, unchecked coup against the American rule of law and our freedoms.  Yesterday's political strategies have not and cannot work against this.  We need more like Cruz.

Spot ON!!
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Post by: mystery-ak on February 22, 2014, 10:41:47 AM
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Persuasion is much more effective than confrontation.

Yeah that has worked so well with the Repubs up until now....now we have a Marxist in the WH......it's time for confrontation!
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 22, 2014, 10:44:53 AM
Spot ON!!

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Post by: aligncare on February 22, 2014, 10:47:05 AM
Seriously?  When was the last time we had a blatant Marxist in the White House fundamentally changing America, a complete enabler "leading" the Senate and a cooperative media?

We are not living through "the way politics works".  We are living through a silent, unchecked coup against the American rule of law and our freedoms.  Yesterday's political strategies have not and cannot work against this.  We need more like Cruz.

Thank you for making that well considered point.

Just think about it. Obama tells Congress "I'm going to bypass you." And the sops fidget a little bit and then applaud!

No, these are different times. Rap's comparison of Cruz to Paul Revere should be becoming clearer to more of us.
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Post by: sinkspur on February 22, 2014, 10:52:10 AM
Seriously?  When was the last time we had a blatant Marxist in the White House fundamentally changing America, a complete enabler "leading" the Senate and a cooperative media?

We are not living through "the way politics works".  We are living through a silent, unchecked coup against the American rule of law and our freedoms.  Yesterday's political strategies have not and cannot work against this.  We need more like Cruz.

How are they working?  Cruz can't even persuade his own fellow Senators. Mike Lee and Rand Paul have stepped away from him.

Cruz doesn't think his strategies through.  He loves the huge flames his fires start, but never thinks about how burning something down accomplishes anything.
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Post by: sinkspur on February 22, 2014, 10:53:34 AM
Yeah that has worked so well with the Repubs up until now....now we have a Marxist in the WH......it's time for confrontation!

How's that workin'? 

What do you call a self-proclaimed leader whose followers barely fill a phone booth?
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Post by: mystery-ak on February 22, 2014, 10:57:21 AM
How's that workin'? 

What do you call a self-proclaimed leader whose followers barely fill a phone booth?

You know that's not true....your hate for this man in unfathomable..you go from thread to thread just to bash this man...people are tired of it and so am I!
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 22, 2014, 11:08:56 AM
How are they working?  Cruz can't even persuade his own fellow Senators. Mike Lee and Rand Paul have stepped away from him.

Cruz doesn't think his strategies through.  He loves the huge flames his fires start, but never thinks about how burning something down accomplishes anything.

**Yawn**  You're boring, sweetie.
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Post by: sinkspur on February 22, 2014, 11:19:23 AM
You know that's not true....your hate for this man in unfathomable..you go from thread to thread just to bash this man...people are tired of it and so am I!

You telling me to leave?   I thought this was a discussion forum.  I'm getting tired of posters on this website trashing other solid conservative politicians.  It works both ways.

I posted an article on Obamacare  last  night and not a single poster here commented on it.  But they're more than ready to defend Ted Cruz, as you are doing.

If people are tired of defending Cruz, then let them put me on ignore.

You mistake disagreement with tactics for hatred.  If that's hatred, then I'll stand with Krauthammer, Will, Sowell, Charen, Byron York and many others.


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Post by: katzenjammer on February 22, 2014, 11:22:49 AM
You know that's not true....your hate for this man in unfathomable..you go from thread to thread just to bash this man...people are tired of it and so am I!

I am more than "tired" of it, I find it nauseating quite frankly.
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Post by: mystery-ak on February 22, 2014, 11:37:13 AM
You telling me to leave?   I thought this was a discussion forum.  I'm getting tired of posters on this website trashing other solid conservative politicians.  It works both ways.

I posted an article on Obamacare  last  night and not a single poster here commented on it.  But they're more than ready to defend Ted Cruz, as you are doing.

If people are tired of defending Cruz, then let them put me on ignore.

You mistake disagreement with tactics for hatred.  If that's hatred, then I'll stand with Krauthammer, Will, Sowell, Charen, Byron York and many others.

I'm not telling you to leave..the need to defend Cruz comes from the constant bombarding of threads by you and several others here with the intention to belittle anyone here who likes Cruz...

I post dozens of articles everyday..there is no telling which one is going to attract interest...but I keep plugging away..
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Post by: DCPatriot on February 22, 2014, 11:41:23 AM
Seriously?  When was the last time we had a blatant Marxist in the White House fundamentally changing America, a complete enabler "leading" the Senate and a cooperative media?

We are not living through "the way politics works".  We are living through a silent, unchecked coup against the American rule of law and our freedoms.  Yesterday's political strategies have not and cannot work against this.  We need more like Cruz.

Love ya!   :beer:
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Post by: 240B on February 22, 2014, 12:49:13 PM
Sinkspur's response, as a spokeperson for the GOPe, to just about everything is, "Well what would YOU do!?"
 
and the only answer he will accept is: NOTHING! Not a thing. And anyone who tries to do something is a "criminal"! NOTHING, just let the politicians do whatever they want.
 
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
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Post by: sinkspur on February 22, 2014, 01:02:34 PM
Sinkspur's response, as a spokeperson for the GOPe, to just about everything is, "Well what would YOU do!?"
 
and the only answer he will accept is: NOTHING! Not a thing. And anyone who tries to do something is a "criminal"! NOTHING, just let the politicians do whatever they want.
 
NOTHING,
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Congratulations.  It's early, but I confidently predict that you will win the "Dumbest Post of the Day" award.

You will win because your post is completely detached from reality.
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Post by: 240B on February 22, 2014, 01:16:27 PM
Congratulations.  It's early, but I confidently predict that you will win the "Dumbest Post of the Day" award.

You will win because your post is completely detached from reality.

 
I would rather be DUMB. I would rather live in my world than the one you have concocted and live in. If dumb is what I am , then dumb I shall be!
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Post by: Mod1 on February 22, 2014, 01:21:12 PM
Congratulations.  It's early, but I confidently predict that you will win the "Dumbest Post of the Day" award.

You will win because your post is completely detached from reality.

Ah, more personal attacks

see ya in a few days
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Post by: sinkspur on February 22, 2014, 01:25:56 PM
Before you bump me, what do you call what 240B was engaged in?

And I did not attack the poster.  I attacked what he posted.  Whereas, he attacked me.
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Post by: Fishrrman on February 22, 2014, 09:22:29 PM
Sez Mona re Cruz:
[[ He may be doing more damage to the GOP than are the Democrats...]]

The Pubbie party has transmogrified into one of those Vietnamese villages back in the war days.

In order to save it, you had to destroy it first, or so they said.

If that's the case, Ted's right on target!
Fire away!
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 23, 2014, 10:05:59 AM
Love ya!   :beer:

Thanks.   :seeya:
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Post by: alicewonders on February 23, 2014, 10:39:01 AM
The enemy, as I see it, is progressivism.  The Democrat party is not alone in having progressives within their ranks.  A progressive wants bigger and more controlling government and there are many Republicans in our party that adhere to that philosophy.  Sooner or later, progressivism turns into totalitarianism, it's the natural flow. 

First, it starts with "good intentions" - we need a law to protect....we need to give money to help...etc.  Before you know it, we're all in straitjackets AND we're paying for it!

Progressivism is the enemy, and what many in the GOP refuse to face, is that the enemy is inside the gates. 

Ted Cruz and others are our last hope.  The man who enters the ring to fight the dragon - he has little chance to win, but he tries anyway.  That's courage - and that's statesmanlike behaviour.  That's leadership. 

Many of us are awake now and aware that the enemy is inside the gates, but many others still slumber with a "Do Not Disturb" sign on their door.  It's OK, go back to sleep - we'll wage the fight for you. 
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Post by: Oceander on February 23, 2014, 11:06:30 AM
And Cruz is being shot back at by his own side - continually.


Circle jerks and circular firing squads are not the way one runs an effective political party.
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Post by: katzenjammer on February 23, 2014, 12:39:19 PM
The enemy, as I see it, is progressivism.  The Democrat party is not alone in having progressives within their ranks.  A progressive wants bigger and more controlling government and there are many Republicans in our party that adhere to that philosophy.  Sooner or later, progressivism turns into totalitarianism, it's the natural flow. 

First, it starts with "good intentions" - we need a law to protect....we need to give money to help...etc.  Before you know it, we're all in straitjackets AND we're paying for it!

Progressivism is the enemy, and what many in the GOP refuse to face, is that the enemy is inside the gates. 

Ted Cruz and others are our last hope.  The man who enters the ring to fight the dragon - he has little chance to win, but he tries anyway.  That's courage - and that's statesmanlike behaviour.  That's leadership. 

Many of us are awake now and aware that the enemy is inside the gates, but many others still slumber with a "Do Not Disturb" sign on their door.  It's OK, go back to sleep - we'll wage the fight for you.

Brava!!  You've summed it up so well, and so succinctly!!

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Post by: MBB1984 on February 23, 2014, 02:56:03 PM
I think I would prefer being represented by Democrats who stab me in the front, as opposed to the GOPe which stabs me in the back.  At least with Democrats I know who and what I am dealing with, and can much more easily prepare myself for what they have in store.  Republicans talk the talk but in actuality support business as usual.  We would not have a $17 trillion deficit except that it was enabled by the GOP.  It may be inconvenient to point that out to folks during this GOP primary season, but I am afraid the very reason we hold primaries is to cleanse the party of impurities.

Exactly!
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Post by: Once-Ler on February 23, 2014, 03:23:22 PM
Sinkspur's response, as a spokeperson for the GOPe, to just about everything is, "Well what would YOU do!?"
 
and the only answer he will accept is: NOTHING! Not a thing. And anyone who tries to do something is a "criminal"! NOTHING, just let the politicians do whatever they want.
 
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING,
NOTHING.

That is not the kind of nonsense we need around here.  Sinkspur's comments are very uncomfortable.  We need action.  We need to fight back.  Like Ted Cruz.  Like the patriots who are attacking the real enemies of America McConnell, Cornyn, Alexander, Graham, Boehner, Collins, Cochran, Roberts, Boehner, Sessions, Capato and the lesser known traitors to the CONSTITUTION.  We must fight like Jim DeMint, Matt Kibbe, and Matt Hoskins.  Sinkspur must be purged like the RINOs infecting the GOP, and now is the time for action.  Just as real conservatives are poised for historic gains through a concerted effort to get rid of the cancerous GOPe, this forum must stay with the zeitgeist.  Never has there been a better time to attack the GOPe, and their socialist infiltrators at GOPbriefingroom, when their strength is at it's lowest ebb and the Tea Party is surging.  Strike for our CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOM and LIBERTY and shut him up.  If we get this forum down to a small core of united patriots, we'll be better armed to take on the 75% of America who are laughing at Ted Cruz, richly blessed among men.  Remember BENGAHZI!!!

I'll turn my snark off for a minute to say that from my perspective 240B's post looks like a personal attack to me but I don't have my conservative glasses on.  Does anyone else recognize it? 
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Post by: mountaineer on February 23, 2014, 08:17:29 PM
Enough, already. Sheesh.
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Post by: Bigun on February 23, 2014, 08:24:47 PM
The enemy, as I see it, is progressivism.  The Democrat party is not alone in having progressives within their ranks.  A progressive wants bigger and more controlling government and there are many Republicans in our party that adhere to that philosophy.  Sooner or later, progressivism turns into totalitarianism, it's the natural flow. 

First, it starts with "good intentions" - we need a law to protect....we need to give money to help...etc.  Before you know it, we're all in straitjackets AND we're paying for it!

Progressivism is the enemy, and what many in the GOP refuse to face, is that the enemy is inside the gates. 

Ted Cruz and others are our last hope.  The man who enters the ring to fight the dragon - he has little chance to win, but he tries anyway.  That's courage - and that's statesmanlike behaviour.  That's leadership. 



Many of us are awake now and aware that the enemy is inside the gates, but many others still slumber with a "Do Not Disturb" sign on their door.  It's OK, go back to sleep - we'll wage the fight for you.

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."


Daniel Webster

Right on Mr. Webster!  Right on!