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Posted by: Jazzhead
« on: January 30, 2019, 12:21:58 PM »

Holman Jenkins, Jr., writing in the WSJ:

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Unfortunately, it will . . . occur to Mr. Trump now that his best move is to cling to the White House at all costs.  That's because under Justice Department guidelines he can expect not to be indicted as long as he remains in office.  I wonder if his Torquemadas have taken this into account. 

Of course they have.   Other than his base,  there is no one more vested in Trump running for re-election than the radicalized Democrats who expect to use 2020 to eliminate the private health insurance and oil industries,  kill economic growth and otherwise transform this nation into disaffected tribes of grievance mongers.   
Posted by: Applewood
« on: January 30, 2019, 08:48:38 AM »

Hey now, never say never. It could happen. If he were to clean out the FBI and DOJ along with Hillary landing in prison, I'd vote for who did that and I think you might too.

The chance of that happening at this point is pretty close to zero - but it could happen.

None of the above will ever happen.  If I remember right, Trump, following his election, said something to the effect that Hillary has suffered enough and he would not pursue an action against her.  As to the rest, Trump has his own problems with the Mueller investigation and the other proceedings against him and his 2016 campaign,  He's not about to stir the pot with any actions of his own.  They would be seen as attempts to obstruct justice in the current proceedings against him. 

The other thing is Trump says a lot of things he doesn't mean.  I keep hearing from Trump supporters that he is not a seasoned politician.  But he is -- in the sense that he lies.  He makes promises and claims that aren't true.  Look at all the promises he made during his 2016 campaign.  Bottom line is he has not kept most of them.  He and the Republican controlled congress screwed around for 2 years while they were in charge.  Now that Republicans lost the House, they are suddenly interested in fulfilling their promise on illegal immigration.  Too little and too late. 
Posted by: Jazzhead
« on: January 30, 2019, 08:42:25 AM »

I don't see a serious Republican challenge to Trump in 2020.  Anyone who could beat him will keep their powder dry for 2024.


I agree, which is why it is important that Trump decide for himself to not run again.   If he does, it will attract an independent candidacy that will doom his chances at re-election,  such as they are.

I'm not alone in believing Trump will decide not to run.   He's a non-politician,  with extensive interests in businesses that he needs to gets back to in order to make sure they can successfully transition to the next generation.   He will be one of the oldest Presidents in history.   And (at least as things now stand)  he can claim real victories and real credit in changing the priorities of the GOP.    I believe he will plausibly claim that his work is done.   

The biggest threat to this (IMO) rosy scenario is the Democrats,  who've run against Trump to the exclusion of little else for two years now.    The last thing they want is for Trump to voluntarily step down in favor of new blood.   They are counting on Trump as the nominee,  and they know that to push his buttons to goad him to fight yields the very best outcome for them. 
Posted by: DB
« on: January 30, 2019, 03:57:14 AM »

Must be  a slow news day if Trump supporters are dredging up an old thread solely for the purpose of haranguing those participants who don't agree with them

What I said on January 8 still holds and no amount of accusation and attempts at marginalization will compel me to board the Trump Train.  I will not support or vote for Trump, period.  It is my decision and I will not  back down.  Trump fans have said they don't need the nonbelievers.  So why is it so important to you to try to embarrass me into joining your cult?

By the way, your attempts aren't working.

Hey now, never say never. It could happen. If he were to clean out the FBI and DOJ along with Hillary landing in prison, I'd vote for who did that and I think you might too.

The chance of that happening at this point is pretty close to zero - but it could happen.
Posted by: Smokin Joe
« on: January 30, 2019, 03:37:50 AM »

I don't see HRC running, let alone walking, in 2020.

I don't see the MIC giving a carp about Trump serving four more years.  I've been pleasantly surprised by his talking about getting us out of some of our sinkholes, but even if he pulls through, they don't care.  He'll be gone in a few years, they're in for life.  (If you haven't read it, check out Rumsfeld's autobiography, serving as the youngest/oldest SECDEF with like 24 years in between, he's got a unique perspective on the MIC).

I don't see a serious Republican challenge to Trump in 2020.  Anyone who could beat him will keep their powder dry for 2024.

The economy is not strong.  The economy is, after a decade of artificial stimulus, finally recovering to a little under long term average growth.  It may feel like a boom, in context, but it's not.

The Fed is doing what it has "always" done (I quote "always" because we got into some uncharted territory, but they're still following their usual script).  They didn't start cutting because 0 was elected or start raising because trump was elected.  They are making the same mistakes they always have, based on their understanding of the underlying economy.

And really, when the smoke clears, the impact of the Fed that throws us into the next major recession will not be a few 1/4 point increases, it will be the drawdown of the balance sheet.  Finally.
Watch Romney....Not saying it will get any strong support, but there is a smell there.
Posted by: Applewood
« on: January 29, 2019, 10:06:28 PM »

What was your D. U. sign up date?

Must be  a slow news day if Trump supporters are dredging up an old thread solely for the purpose of haranguing those participants who don't agree with them

What I said on January 8 still holds and no amount of accusation and attempts at marginalization will compel me to board the Trump Train.  I will not support or vote for Trump, period.  It is my decision and I will not  back down.  Trump fans have said they don't need the nonbelievers.  So why is it so important to you to try to embarrass me into joining your cult?

By the way, your attempts aren't working.
Posted by: Blizzardnh
« on: January 29, 2019, 05:20:23 PM »

Did not vote for Trump, but I had hopes he would prove me wrong and do some amazing things.

Well, he proved me wrong all right.  His presidency is worse than I could ever have imagined.  Actually, there is no presidency -- just one long phony-baloney reality tv show. 

I'd give Trump an F, but that's not an option in this poll (bread, circuses and free weed doesn't cover my opinion).
What was your D. U. sign up date?
Posted by: Frank Cannon
« on: January 29, 2019, 05:17:25 PM »

You don't actually think.... that they, the Democrats, want to ""simplify"" filing your taxes, do you?   How would that help them to squeeze every last dime out of folks like you (legal citizens that pay taxes)?   Remember.... it's the party of "we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it"..... they make it complex for a reason.  It's deliberate.

The poster you are responding to has their taxes done at HR Block and their financial advisor is a second cousin right out of community college.
Posted by: XenaLee
« on: January 29, 2019, 04:58:34 PM »

I have a pro who does my taxes because I can't keep up with all this stuff, and I suspect he has major headaches over the changes too.  I also have a financial advisor, and we have tried to mitigate some of the damage, but it's not going to be enough.  If we had a simplified tax system, we wouldn't have this problem.  About the only "simplification" coming out of this tax tweak is the elimination of the 1040A and 1040EZ.  Everyone will have to fill out a 1040.  But instead of the two simple forms, there are going to be more schedules, so for many taxpayers there may be even more forms to fill out.  I don't see how this is going to make filing tax returns simple.

You don't actually think.... that they, the Democrats, want to ""simplify"" filing your taxes, do you?   How would that help them to squeeze every last dime out of folks like you (legal citizens that pay taxes)?   Remember.... it's the party of "we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it"..... they make it complex for a reason.  It's deliberate.
Posted by: dfwgator
« on: January 29, 2019, 04:54:19 PM »

Incomplete.
Posted by: libertybele
« on: January 29, 2019, 04:48:58 PM »

If I could vote again I'd give him an "F"
Posted by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer
« on: January 16, 2019, 01:31:05 AM »

I can't believe this thread!

First off, I have said it many times on this site, and I will repeat myself, it will be Trump vs Clinton in 2020.  The ONLY thing that will stop that is if the industrial/military complex decides to JFK Trump.  And yes, as is absolutely true, history repeats itself.

JFK signed an executive order to withdraw from Vietnam, and make an effort to end the FED, and he dies.  Trump decides to withdraw from Syria and draw down in Afghanistan, revenue many times that in the 60s for the industrial/military complex, and I say he follows in JFKs footsteps.  I suspect someone may have pointed that out to him, and  he has softened the terms for his actually drawing down and out.

It will be Trump for the GOP.  Really, anyone thinking America would vote for a LOSER like Romney over Trump is smoking to much ganga.  And who else is out there that stands a chance against him in the GOP?  Answer is simple....NO ONE!

On the Dem side of the fence, their circus will be quite entertaining.  They will have 12-20 candidates.  Bernie may or may not run, but he will be inconsequential.  In 2016, he got the never Clinton vote, and there was no other candidate.  The fool from Maryland, he was a joke day one until he withdrew.

This time, HR Clinton announces once there are a dozen or so candidates that have announced they are running.  Clinton has a solid base of 40%.  The rest, whether 10 or 20 others will split the vote and lose, again and again until HR Clinton takes the nomination.

She loses a second time to Trump, who takes 40 electoral states in 2020 if the economy remains strong, and it is a coin toss if the economy is so-so, and he loses if the economy is ailing.  Clinton lives in PA, OH, WI, MI, and FL.  She literally need not go to any other state but those five to attempt to gain an edge.

If the FED increases rates as many times in 2019 as they did in 2018, then they are in on the effort to unseat Trump.  Trump has made the huge mistake of appointing many people whose loyalties are with the Bushes, which I believe is the kiss of death.  His DOJ appointee will also prove to be a huge mistake.  All the stinking lying attorneys in America, and he keeps going back to former Bushies versus finding his own team.  Dumb!

I see Trump serving 4 more years.  I believe the economy will remain strong, and the American people will realize that it was his doing, and not the knucklehead that was number 44.

I don't see HRC running, let alone walking, in 2020.

I don't see the MIC giving a carp about Trump serving four more years.  I've been pleasantly surprised by his talking about getting us out of some of our sinkholes, but even if he pulls through, they don't care.  He'll be gone in a few years, they're in for life.  (If you haven't read it, check out Rumsfeld's autobiography, serving as the youngest/oldest SECDEF with like 24 years in between, he's got a unique perspective on the MIC).

I don't see a serious Republican challenge to Trump in 2020.  Anyone who could beat him will keep their powder dry for 2024.

The economy is not strong.  The economy is, after a decade of artificial stimulus, finally recovering to a little under long term average growth.  It may feel like a boom, in context, but it's not.

The Fed is doing what it has "always" done (I quote "always" because we got into some uncharted territory, but they're still following their usual script).  They didn't start cutting because 0 was elected or start raising because trump was elected.  They are making the same mistakes they always have, based on their understanding of the underlying economy.

And really, when the smoke clears, the impact of the Fed that throws us into the next major recession will not be a few 1/4 point increases, it will be the drawdown of the balance sheet.  Finally.
Posted by: jafo2010
« on: January 16, 2019, 01:05:12 AM »

I can't believe this thread!

First off, I have said it many times on this site, and I will repeat myself, it will be Trump vs Clinton in 2020.  The ONLY thing that will stop that is if the industrial/military complex decides to JFK Trump.  And yes, as is absolutely true, history repeats itself.

JFK signed an executive order to withdraw from Vietnam, and make an effort to end the FED, and he dies.  Trump decides to withdraw from Syria and draw down in Afghanistan, revenue many times that in the 60s for the industrial/military complex, and I say he follows in JFKs footsteps.  I suspect someone may have pointed that out to him, and  he has softened the terms for his actually drawing down and out.

It will be Trump for the GOP.  Really, anyone thinking America would vote for a LOSER like Romney over Trump is smoking to much ganga.  And who else is out there that stands a chance against him in the GOP?  Answer is simple....NO ONE!

On the Dem side of the fence, their circus will be quite entertaining.  They will have 12-20 candidates.  Bernie may or may not run, but he will be inconsequential.  In 2016, he got the never Clinton vote, and there was no other candidate.  The fool from Maryland, he was a joke day one until he withdrew.

This time, HR Clinton announces once there are a dozen or so candidates that have announced they are running.  Clinton has a solid base of 40%.  The rest, whether 10 or 20 others will split the vote and lose, again and again until HR Clinton takes the nomination.

She loses a second time to Trump, who takes 40 electoral states in 2020 if the economy remains strong, and it is a coin toss if the economy is so-so, and he loses if the economy is ailing.  Clinton lives in PA, OH, WI, MI, and FL.  She literally need not go to any other state but those five to attempt to gain an edge.

If the FED increases rates as many times in 2019 as they did in 2018, then they are in on the effort to unseat Trump.  Trump has made the huge mistake of appointing many people whose loyalties are with the Bushes, which I believe is the kiss of death.  His DOJ appointee will also prove to be a huge mistake.  All the stinking lying attorneys in America, and he keeps going back to former Bushies versus finding his own team.  Dumb!

I see Trump serving 4 more years.  I believe the economy will remain strong, and the American people will realize that it was his doing, and not the knucklehead that was number 44.
Posted by: Applewood
« on: January 10, 2019, 06:05:28 AM »

Yikes .... this will be our first year filing taxes on SS ... keeping my fingers crossed.  We prepared for a lot ... taxes always hard to guage because the tax laws keep changing.

I have a pro who does my taxes because I can't keep up with all this stuff, and I suspect he has major headaches over the changes too.  I also have a financial advisor, and we have tried to mitigate some of the damage, but it's not going to be enough.  If we had a simplified tax system, we wouldn't have this problem.  About the only "simplification" coming out of this tax tweak is the elimination of the 1040A and 1040EZ.  Everyone will have to fill out a 1040.  But instead of the two simple forms, there are going to be more schedules, so for many taxpayers there may be even more forms to fill out.  I don't see how this is going to make filing tax returns simple.
Posted by: libertybele
« on: January 09, 2019, 04:14:43 PM »

I live in the rust belt.  Not so good here, although I will concede, as @XenaLee alluded to, much of the problem has to with Democrat rule here.  I'm also not seeing a change in black unemployment.  Why should there be when in this part of the country there is so much free stuff?

As for seniors -- I'm a senior and I already know I will owe for the first time in years.  So-called tax reform did nothing for me.  What increase there was in SS has been eaten up by a rise in Medicare  and other things like food and medicine.   As always, we oldsters get the shaft.

Yikes .... this will be our first year filing taxes on SS ... keeping my fingers crossed.  We prepared for a lot ... taxes always hard to guage because the tax laws keep changing.