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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: Elderberry on December 30, 2020, 12:41:49 am
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American Military News by Laura Widener December 29, 2020
Thousands of Aspen, Colo. residents and businesses are without heat or hot water amid freezing temperatures due to an attack on gas service lines over the weekend.
The FBI and local police are investigating what they say appears to be an “intentional attack†on the town’s gas service lines, Aspen Times reported. Officials discovered vandalism at three different gas line sites, in which environmental group messaging was found written on the pipes.
Aspen Assistant Police Chief Bill Linn said the perpetrators “have some familiarity†with the gas line system. “They tampered with flow lines. They turned off gas lines,†he explained.
The words “Earth First!†were found written on the vandalized gas pipes. The words are the name of an international environmental advocacy group.
The city of Aspen has been handing out thousands of space heaters to residents who are without heat while technicians from the local gas company, Black Hills Energy, attempt to restore the gas service.
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If/when caught and found guilty,they should be hanged for the attempted murder of thousands of men,women,and children.
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Betcha they're missin them wood stoves they've been banning like crazy. Get out of town a little ways and everybody is snug as a bug. Because if they have gas, they still have a wood stove too.
Places where winter comes hard should never rely on one or even two sources of heat.
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And by intentional, pretty sure we mean terrorist.
Intentional attack leaves thousands without heat in frigid Colorado
Vandals targeted several gas lines in Aspen.
By Joseph Guzman | Dec. 29, 2020
Authorities said the acts of vandalism took place Saturday night at three different Black Hills Energy gas line sites.
At least 3,500 homes and businesses were left without heat.
The FBI and state law enforcement officials are working with local authorities on the criminal investigation.
Thousands of residents and businesses are without heat in frigid Aspen, Colo., after gas service lines were intentionally damaged over the weekend.
Authorities said the acts of vandalism took place Saturday night at three different Black Hills Energy gas line sites. Two of the sites were located in Aspen and one in a different location in Pitkin County. Police said the three locations were damaged about the same time, according to The Aspen Times (https://www.aspentimes.com/news/investigation-continues-into-aspen-area-natural-gas-outage-which-could-last-into-tuesday/).
The FBI and state law enforcement officials are working with local authorities on the criminal investigation. Aspen Assistant Police Chief Bill Linn said those responsible would have had to be familiar with the gas system to pull off the sabotage.
“They tampered with flow lines. They turned off gas lines,†Linn said.
The words “Earth First!†were also found writing on a pipe at a natural gas pumping station near the town, which is the name of a self-described “radical environmental group,†although it’s not clear at this time if the group was involved. ...
The Hill (https://thehill.com/changing-america/sustainability/532011-intentional-attack-leaves-thousands-without-heat-in-frigid)
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If/when caught and found guilty,they should be hanged for the attempted murder of thousands of men,women,and children.
I would like to see that precedent established, but when the new Holdomor comes, I expect the communists in our government will proudly cut off service to the very regions which supply a tremendous amount of gas and oil in the northern parts of the country.
Keep in mind, though, that two can play that game, and one side knows where ALL the valves are.
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Betcha they're missin them wood stoves they've been banning like crazy. Get out of town a little ways and everybody is snug as a bug. Because if they have gas, they still have a wood stove too.
Places where winter comes hard should never rely on one or even two sources of heat.
True, that, three at a minimum.
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It's somebody's set-up "Command Center" {scoff's "it's a basement!!" John McClane...} Live Free or Die Hard
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True, that, three at a minimum.
Ok, would that be wood, natural gas/propane and...................women?
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Ok, would that be wood, natural gas/propane and...................women?
Women.... Yep. Because you invariably wind up in the doghouse, and the dogs will keep you warm... That's where the 3 dog - 5 dog temperature measurement came from ... Kinda like the bars on a Hudson Bay blanket.
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Ok, would that be wood, natural gas/propane and...................women?
Electric heaters, too.
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Always have a backup. Generators are the most logical option, IMO, but wood stoves are good too. Can't beat that atmosphere. I prefer pellet stoves operated from a generator.
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Our back up source of heat is living South of Houston.
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Our back up source of heat is living South of Houston.
Even more Southern than me. I live in South Houston. I was down in your neck of the woods just last week visiting an old friend off of 1462.
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The terrorist enivrowhacko's of the NW are highly aligned and allied with Antifa.
Watch for much more of this as time passes
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Even more Southern than me. I live in South Houston. I was down in your neck of the woods just last week visiting an old friend off of 1462.
We live on FM 1462, 4 miles west of Hwy 288, 5 miles east of the Brazos River.
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The terrorist enivrowhacko's of the NW are highly aligned and allied with Antifa.
Watch for much more of this as time passes
Yeah. Note they didn't cut off their supplies back home.
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We live on FM 1462, 4 miles west of Hwy 288, 5 miles east of the Brazos River.
I musta just gone past ya. I was on 528A/Mill Dr near where it becomes Lake Dr.
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Response to environmental terrorism:
S****, S*****, S*** U*.
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Response to environmental terrorism:
S****, S*****, S*** U*.
If they so dearly want to become one with the Planet, perhaps they should take immediate steps to return their nutrients to the soil--all of them.
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Our back up source of heat is living South of Houston.
Just remembering this thread and my response.
We were more fortunate than most.
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Always have a backup. Generators are the most logical option, IMO, but wood stoves are good too. Can't beat that atmosphere. I prefer pellet stoves operated from a generator.
It's tough getting BTUs out of a jenny... use it to run the fan on a GFA or propane furnace, sure... But you need a whoppin jenny to run an electric furnace or electric baseboard outfit. My jenny is something like 8500w (maybe 10,000w), and I can't use 220. no dryer, no stove, and heck even no microwave. It will run the rest of the house just fine.
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I doubt if much w.happen to them even if they're caught.Maybe a year or two at most in jail.
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If they so dearly want to become one with the Planet, perhaps they should take immediate steps to return their nutrients to the soil--all of them.
I would support that.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c&t=5s#)
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It's tough getting BTUs out of a jenny... use it to run the fan on a GFA or propane furnace, sure... But you need a whoppin jenny to run an electric furnace or electric baseboard outfit. My jenny is something like 8500w (maybe 10,000w), and I can't use 220. no dryer, no stove, and heck even no microwave. It will run the rest of the house just fine.
How about one of those infrared heaters?
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True, that, three at a minimum.
@Smokin Joe
I don't know about three,but the regular heat source and a backup cast iron stove or propane heater at a minimum,as well as very warm clothes.
I hesitate to suggest one room be super-insulated due to the fact some idiots will take it too far and not have a working exhaust system to rid the room of stale air. We all know what happens if there is no system in place to allow fresh air into the room. Granted,it's not much of a problem because most houses are not that air-tight,but it COULD be a problem if someone that doesn't know what they are doing basically seals one room off from the rest of the house,and doesn't allow for fresh air circulation.
If you live in a house with a fireplace and a garage or an outbuilding,it should be easy to just stockpile split wood where it is dry and readily available to feed your fireplace or mo betta,cast iron stove. You could concentrate on heating that one area of the house,and just crawl under plenty of covers when you go to bed,or bed down in a sleeping bag.
Apartment dwellers are screwed,though. About all they can do is get into their cars and drive someplace warm and look for a job.
Make no mistake about it,though. This WAS an act of terrorism,and innocent people will die because of it.
There should be appropriate consequences.
BTW,I haven't heard if they have any suspects or any arrests have been made yet. Are the authorities even looking?
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It's tough getting BTUs out of a jenny... use it to run the fan on a GFA or propane furnace, sure... But you need a whoppin jenny to run an electric furnace or electric baseboard outfit. My jenny is something like 8500w (maybe 10,000w), and I can't use 220. no dryer, no stove, and heck even no microwave. It will run the rest of the house just fine.
I figure it should be enough to run a pellet stove.
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Democrats control the governorship and both houses of the Colorado legislature.. You think they're looking that hard?
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How about one of those infrared heaters?
That's a something. I don't have any experience per se, because my riggin has been to survive off-grid in case of catastrophe. in fact, even the jenny is an interim, and not really allowed for till now... This spring I am putting in a failover circuit in the fuse box, and a 220 plug on an exterior wall. Then the jenny just gets plugged in and will run the whole house (sans 220 and nuke). I am gathering batteries too, and solar... All *for* up in the holler, but this place is my test bed. So before too long, I will have rudimentary passive generation and enough power storage to last a while before I need to charge again, even without the solar.
Which means infrared will become feasible.
I DID buy me one of them fancy ones the Amish make, in the cherry-wood cabinet. And I used it here, believe it or not during construction when I was remodeling after purchase... Actually that was rather radical - all the way out to the studs, with plate replacement and floor replacement in about half of it...
It was a mild winter that year... Once I got dried back in I plugged that little IR heater in near the center of the place. It ran balls out all the time, but sealed up good, like the house was, though without any insulation, that little heater kept the place above freezing. And I left it run in December, when we were largely absent - and the electric on the place was about 40 bucks.
I figure four of those would probably heat this place fairly. Say over 50... But they would not be running balls out, so I can't quantify the actual cost of running them, vs BTU. But yeah... that would seem to be an option with the jenny running.
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I figure it should be enough to run a pellet stove.
Yeah, that's probably right... The problem I have with that is necessary reliance on the jenny... as the pellet stove will not advance pellets if it's control system ain't running... So my preference would be toward a normal wood stove which will run independent of everything.
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Democrats control the governorship and both houses of the Colorado legislature.. You think they're looking that hard?
@mikezpen
Hasn't that been true since the 1800's?
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@Smokin Joe
I don't know about three,but the regular heat source and a backup cast iron stove or propane heater at a minimum,as well as very warm clothes.
I hesitate to suggest one room be super-insulated due to the fact some idiots will take it too far and not have a working exhaust system to rid the room of stale air. We all know what happens if there is no system in place to allow fresh air into the room. Granted,it's not much of a problem because most houses are not that air-tight,but it COULD be a problem if someone that doesn't know what they are doing basically seals one room off from the rest of the house,and doesn't allow for fresh air circulation.
If you live in a house with a fireplace and a garage or an outbuilding,it should be easy to just stockpile split wood where it is dry and readily available to feed your fireplace or mo betta,cast iron stove. You could concentrate on heating that one area of the house,and just crawl under plenty of covers when you go to bed,or bed down in a sleeping bag.
Apartment dwellers are screwed,though. About all they can do is get into their cars and drive someplace warm and look for a job.
Make no mistake about it,though. This WAS an act of terrorism,and innocent people will die because of it.
There should be appropriate consequences.
BTW,I haven't heard if they have any suspects or any arrests have been made yet. Are the authorities even looking?
I suggest, too, looking at where in Colorado this occurred. Aspen. Something like that could go in any of a number of different directions from screwing with the commonly wealthier snowbunnies to the generally more liberal population there, of just some nitwits 'saving the well, whatever'. It i summarily stupid, no matter who did it, and it is possible people could die from such tampering. I bet firewood was at a premium. (This happened right around the first of the year, not in the current cold snap).
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So this is old news? Besides ASPEN COLORADO...don't they use a lot of fire wood to keep warm? Some leftist, wanted to save GAS and made people use wood to keep warm? lol. IDIOT.
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So this is old news? Besides ASPEN COLORADO...don't they use a lot of fire wood to keep warm? Some leftist, wanted to save GAS and made people use wood to keep warm? lol. IDIOT.
They have likely converted a lot of those fireplaces to gas, because wood (although carbon neutral) makes smoke...