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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: libertybele on December 19, 2018, 01:13:14 pm

Title: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: libertybele on December 19, 2018, 01:13:14 pm
Here's your answer. There's not going to be a shutdown, nor is there going to be a wall.  The Turtle strikes once again.  And as the Senate folds...so does the President.  He's in a heap of trouble in 2019 and going forward if he can't get the support of the Senate.


Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding


resident Trump told Democrat leaders last week that he'd accept the blame for a government shutdown if that's what it takes to get the $5 billion he wants to build a border wall.

But it looks like neither thing will happen.

Democrats on Tuesday rejected a Republican proposal to give Trump an additional $1 billion for border security, on top of the $1.6 billion included in the bipartisan funding bill for the Department of Homeland Security.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) called it a billion dollar "slush fund" and said it would not pass in either chamber.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Va.) told reporters on Tuesday that discussions continue with the White House on "the way forward." The goal now is to avoid a government shutdown, he indicated:

"I think a government shutdown is -- is not a good option. That's my view. The American people don't like it. I don't know how many times -- you remember my favorite country saying, there's no education in the second kick of a mule.

"We've been down this path before, and I don't believe we'll go down this path again.".........

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/senate-republicans-more-worried-about-government-shutdown-wall-funding (https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/senate-republicans-more-worried-about-government-shutdown-wall-funding)
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: rustynail on December 19, 2018, 01:18:22 pm
¡Ocasio! is coming.
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: libertybele on December 19, 2018, 01:22:33 pm
¡Ocasio! is coming.

Not yet.  Castro or Beto will win in 2020.
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 19, 2018, 01:43:03 pm
Not yet.  Castro or Beto will win in 2020.

Only if you continue to help them.
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: libertybele on December 19, 2018, 01:52:41 pm
Only if you continue to help them.

Oh, please.  Quite the crap right now. How exactly am I helping them RIV???

I want Trump to succeed and I want him to build the wall.  He hasn't done so and he has just a few days left to do as he promised.  The House will be under the leadership of Pelosi and the Turtle is indicating he once again will hide in his shell.

Because it looks like he can't or won't do as he promised, you're going to blame everyone that refuses to give him a free pass???
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: Night Hides Not on December 19, 2018, 01:58:39 pm
Only if you continue to help them.

Puh-leze. Trump is doing more to help the Democrats than you want to admit. He's managed to galvanize Democrats and their voters more than anyone else in the US, even more than Obama ever did.

To blame it on @libertybele , me, or another NT is simply intellectual laziness of the highest order.
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: andy58-in-nh on December 19, 2018, 02:23:06 pm
It does not matter what Trump, or his supporters, or any conservatives want:  the Washington elite and the Permanent State are going to get exactly what they want: endless, increased funding for their empires, and open borders.

I believe that for the wall to be built in any meaningful way it is going to take an Executive order; a state of emergency declaration based on the very real dangers posed by criminal drug gangs and potential terrorists from sanctioned nations.     
 
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: Axeslinger on December 19, 2018, 02:26:45 pm
Y’all be nice to RiV!  Her pom-poms just got deflated...
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: Chosen Daughter on December 19, 2018, 02:37:45 pm
Only if you continue to help them.

MAGA turned into MMGA and MCAGA when Trump promised to give money to Mexico and Central America.  No help for American families.  Not even a tax break for the Middle class.  Trump just gave Americans his big middle finger.  Just more migrants to pay for and billions in aid to corrupt governments in Mexico and Central America. 

And giving billions to the incoming Mexican government.  Don't even know who they are or what they are going to do.  All we know is that they are pro migration.
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 19, 2018, 02:47:21 pm
Only if you continue to help them.

No help required, it seems likely President Trump won't run for reelection.  Let's see how he deals with Pelosi.  Never mind the TEA Party slayer Turtle.
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: libertybele on December 19, 2018, 02:58:16 pm
It does not matter what Trump, or his supporters, or any conservatives want:  the Washington elite and the Permanent State are going to get exactly what they want: endless, increased funding for their empires, and open borders.

I believe that for the wall to be built in any meaningful way it is going to take an Executive order; a state of emergency declaration based on the very real dangers posed by criminal drug gangs and potential terrorists from sanctioned nations.   

Well we had a mob of over 7,000 coming over in caravans of different sorts who knocked on our back door and if that wasn't a state of emergency, allowing for an e.o. to build the wall, I don't know what is.

To Trump's credit, it seems that for the most part, they were turned away...at least till the next caravan and the next.  We shall see.
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: andy58-in-nh on December 19, 2018, 03:48:00 pm
Well we had a mob of over 7,000 coming over in caravans of different sorts who knocked on our back door and if that wasn't a state of emergency, allowing for an e.o. to build the wall, I don't know what is.

To Trump's credit, it seems that for the most part, they were turned away...at least till the next caravan and the next.  We shall see.
I fear that it will take a far more grievous event to make it plain to the elites in DC that they are as much at risk as the rest of us. And even then, they may resist.
Title: Re: Senate Republicans More Worried About Government Shutdown Than Wall Funding
Post by: libertybele on December 19, 2018, 08:08:30 pm
I fear that it will take a far more grievous event to make it plain to the elites in DC that they are as much at risk as the rest of us. And even then, they may resist.

Bingo.  Especially our politicians in Washington feel that they won't be affected by the loss of our sovereignty and think that they will maintain their standard of privileged living. In actuality, it will knock them down a few pegs and only then will the smell the coffee; unfortunately it will be too late.