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Title: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 21, 2021, 10:52:38 pm
Struggle sessions are here, my friends.

I am looking at an email from a hospital system to all doctors and staff. It tells the staff that their social media posts will be subject to evaluation and that the hospital system "will not tolerate racism". Now given the fact that any opposition to the Democrat agenda is being mischaracterized as racism, the implications are clear. They can and will terminate you if you run afoul of the woke crowds ever-changing rules. If you are still actively employed, I highly recommend you take steps to sanitize, anonymize, or delete your social media accounts or all posts.

Don't assume your accounts are anonymous because you didn't use your real name. For example, unless you disable this feature in Settings, on Twitter people can search for you by email address. And even if you disable that feature, I wouldn't trust it.

If your plan is to keep your posts non-political, be aware that what's innocent and non-political today may be a target of the "woke" gestapo tomorrow.

The safest thing to do is to just delete your social media accounts, or keep them but don't post anything.

If you want to keep a FaceBook account, FaceBook does now provide a feature to delete posts "in bulk". It is, however, cumbersome and buggy, so if you have a lot of posts, budget significant time for this task. More info here:

https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-mass-delete-facebook-posts-4767192 (https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-mass-delete-facebook-posts-4767192)

For Twitter, there is a really nice service that will do it for you:

https://tweetdelete.net/ (https://tweetdelete.net/)

Remember that you need to delete both posts and "likes" (these are two separate actions in TweetDelete). Even after you do that, people can still infer your political alignment by looking at what accounts you follow. I will be deleting my Twitter account altogether once Parler is back up. You can also register for Twitter using an email that no ones knows about.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: dfwgator on January 21, 2021, 11:19:26 pm
Had a Twitter account, never posted anything, but I just closed it.

Disabled my FB,  I may go ahead and delete it.


But know that not having a Facebook or Twitter account, may also be considered a "Red Flag", as they may think you are hiding something. 

Pretty soon they will want to see evidence that you actively posted things in favor of the current orthodoxy and actively denounced anyone who said anything against it.

That's what the did in the Soviet Union, under Stalin, they went after people who hadn't denounced anyone.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: dfwgator on January 21, 2021, 11:21:41 pm
Furthermore I suspect you will see in job interviews them ask you to give specific examples of how you worked to address racial inequality.    And you'd better have a good answer.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 21, 2021, 11:33:16 pm
Furthermore I suspect you will see in job interviews them ask you to give specific examples of how you worked to address racial inequality.    And you'd better have a good answer.

Where I work, every interviewer has to ask one question from one of 8 or so designated areas that come from HR. Lately they have been pushing this concept of "allyship", which is basically taking steps to "increase diversity" (their concept of diversity, which is mostly based on surface attributes like skin color). I can see them adding a category around that to the interview. But it won't be "what have you done..." but rather "How would you handle this situation".
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: roamer_1 on January 21, 2021, 11:36:08 pm
Man, am I ever happy I stayed away from chasing a corporate job and  stayed self-employed...
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 21, 2021, 11:41:04 pm
Man, am I ever happy I stayed away from chasing a corporate job and  stayed self-employed...

I envy you. I know there is a downside, but it's really quite something to watch all this unfold. Corporations are a big way the government is getting around the constitution. As they kill off small business, more and more people will end up working for one too.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: roamer_1 on January 21, 2021, 11:47:48 pm
I envy you. I know there is a downside, but it's really quite something to watch all this unfold. Corporations are a big way the government is getting around the constitution. As they kill off small business, more and more people will end up working for one too.

Well,  not me... I am uniquely designed to eschew following leaders. I have had offers. Heck, I been around it so much that folks upstairs thought I was a regulation basement troll. Nope. Ever a contractor, as my daddy and his daddy before him. I'll go gypsy before I go corporate.

But this thing that is happening.... Look up a little thing called 3rd-way socialism. You will see what they're doing. It is the feds that are behind all this, I would nearly guarantee.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 22, 2021, 12:00:59 am
Well,  not me... I am uniquely designed to eschew following leaders. I have had offers. Heck, I been around it so much that folks upstairs thought I was a regulation basement troll. Nope. Ever a contractor, as my daddy and his daddy before him. I'll go gypsy before I go corporate.

But this thing that is happening.... Look up a little thing called 3rd-way socialism. You will see what they're doing. It is the feds that are behind all this, I would nearly guarantee.

This?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: roamer_1 on January 22, 2021, 12:24:48 am
This?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way

Sort of. That's a rather rosy picture. The conclusion to how you paint that rosy picture is not government owned industry, which the moderates reject. It is government controlled capitalism, where government incentivizes and protects corporations that play ball, in a sort of corporate cronyism between industry leaders and the government.

That is the field that's been plowed, and is now being fought over at a global level - The difference being between the global communists on the left that love their top-down hierarchy style tyranny, and their vision through the UN, and the more distributed corporate oligarchy as envisioned on the so-called right, with government remaining in the back seat providing direction with stick-and-carrot and corporations doing the deed and holding the bag... with the eventual tyrant(s) at the top.

It is funny how clean and harmless Wikipedia has made it seem.

And it sure smells like it in this woohan thing. Who is enforcing masks? Why, federal and some state governments, banks, and national and international corporations that mysteriously get to stay open while small businesses languish. That's sign on the ground to me...

Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: verga on January 22, 2021, 12:55:34 pm
15 years ago my BIL worked in HR. One of the first things he asked was if they had a Bookface account. He had already googled them before they walked in the door, so he knew if they were lying.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 22, 2021, 04:31:11 pm
15 years ago my BIL worked in HR. One of the first things he asked was if they had a Bookface account. He had already googled them before they walked in the door, so he knew if they were lying.

Scary.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: GtHawk on January 22, 2021, 06:41:55 pm
Meh, the only social media accounts I ever opened were with the new options to twitter and the like but I never posted anything anywhere. Now my late dog had a facebook account but he never posted anywhere but dog sites.

My mother who escaped communism keeps telling me to be careful what I say because it's just like it was under communism people are listening and there will be punishment for saying the wrong thing like the democrats stole the ellection. Sadly it seeks there is half this nation that don't understand or see what those that escaped a communist regime warned them of.

 (ahem, to the watchers, I'm not saying that is what happened just that the wrong thinkers, the disloyal to the state ones are saying that. Joe Biden is great and he didn't steal the election, Trump is evil.)

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKx3JlTnHbc#)
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 22, 2021, 07:28:01 pm
Meh, the only social media accounts I ever opened were with the new options to twitter and the like but I never posted anything anywhere. Now my late dog had a facebook account but he never posted anywhere but dog sites.

My mother who escaped communism keeps telling me to be careful what I say because it's just like it was under communism people are listening and there will be punishment for saying the wrong thing like the democrats stole the ellection. Sadly it seeks there is half this nation that don't understand or see what those that escaped a communist regime warned them of.

 (ahem, to the watchers, I'm not saying that is what happened just that the wrong thinkers, the disloyal to the state ones are saying that. Joe Biden is great and he didn't steal the election, Trump is evil.)

Your mom is 100% correct. It's hard to accept that's where we are here in the U.S.A., but we are. Registration and then taking the guns will be their next move.

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKx3JlTnHbc#)
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on January 23, 2021, 01:04:21 am
Meh, the only social media accounts I ever opened were with the new options to twitter and the like but I never posted anything anywhere. Now my late dog had a facebook account but he never posted anywhere but dog sites.

My mother who escaped communism keeps telling me to be careful what I say because it's just like it was under communism people are listening and there will be punishment for saying the wrong thing like the democrats stole the ellection. Sadly it seeks there is half this nation that don't understand or see what those that escaped a communist regime warned them of.

 (ahem, to the watchers, I'm not saying that is what happened just that the wrong thinkers, the disloyal to the state ones are saying that. Joe Biden is great and he didn't steal the election, Trump is evil.)

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKx3JlTnHbc#)
You opened an account on this conservative website, as well as posting on it, didn't you?

Do you think their scrutiny is confined to Twitter and Facebook?
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 23, 2021, 02:12:19 am
You opened an account on this conservative website, as well as posting on it, didn't you?

Do you think their scrutiny is confined to Twitter and Facebook?

1) They can't get my real name or email address from here.
2) This place is like a diner in some small town. They don't even know it exists.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: Wingnut on January 23, 2021, 02:37:53 am
I had a final interview once with a particular nasty HR bitch for a sales job with a fortune 500 company.  I drove 3 or 4 hours to get there only to find out the final hiring decision was to be made the Bitch. It was hot as hell that day and she made me wait 30 minutes to meet with her.  She was a particularly unpleasant anbd unfriendly bulldyke.  After about 30 minute with her she asked me why I wanted to work for XYZ company?  Now I already knew she wasn't going to okay my employment so I looked her in the eyes, loosened my tie and said; "I would never want to work for a company that would have me as an employee." 
That was when security escorted me out of the building.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: GtHawk on January 23, 2021, 04:17:45 am
You opened an account on this conservative website, as well as posting on it, didn't you?

Do you think their scrutiny is confined to Twitter and Facebook?
Comrade, I post the simply misdirection so as able to be making list of enemies to Big Guy giving.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: GtHawk on January 23, 2021, 04:19:50 am
I had a final interview once with a particular nasty HR bitch for a sales job with a fortune 500 company.  I drove 3 or 4 hours to get there only to find out the final hiring decision was to be made the Bitch. It was hot as hell that day and she made me wait 30 minutes to meet with her.  She was a particularly unpleasant anbd unfriendly bulldyke.  After about 30 minute with her she asked me why I wanted to work for XYZ company?  Now I already knew she wasn't going to okay my employment so I looked her in the eyes, loosened my tie and said; "I would never want to work for a company that would have me as an employee." 
That was when security escorted me out of the building.
And that's the problem with honesty, it is never really appreciated.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: dfwgator on January 23, 2021, 04:23:31 am
1) They can't get my real name or email address from here.
2) This place is like a diner in some small town. They don't even know it exists.

The key is there is no way they can trace your employer from it.  Now if you post anything about where you work or include any pictures that indicate where you work, then yes, that's a problem.  Never provide any clues about where you work.  And NEVER friend any co-worker.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: dfwgator on January 23, 2021, 04:25:00 am
I had a final interview once with a particular nasty HR bitch for a sales job with a fortune 500 company.  I drove 3 or 4 hours to get there only to find out the final hiring decision was to be made the Bitch. It was hot as hell that day and she made me wait 30 minutes to meet with her.  She was a particularly unpleasant anbd unfriendly bulldyke.  After about 30 minute with her she asked me why I wanted to work for XYZ company?  Now I already knew she wasn't going to okay my employment so I looked her in the eyes, loosened my tie and said; "I would never want to work for a company that would have me as an employee." 
That was when security escorted me out of the building.

LOL, I would have told her, "I would never want to work for a company that would have YOU as an employee." 
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: bigheadfred on January 23, 2021, 04:37:15 am
You are tracked in so many ways deleting accounts just flags you.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 23, 2021, 05:33:04 am
The key is there is no way they can trace your employer from it.  Now if you post anything about where you work or include any pictures that indicate where you work, then yes, that's a problem.  Never provide any clues about where you work.  And NEVER friend any co-worker.

Good point.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on January 23, 2021, 08:39:59 pm
1) They can't get my real name or email address from here.
2) This place is like a diner in some small town. They don't even know it exists.
Eh, why do you think Biden is hiring over 100,000 'contact tracers' for anyway?

Hint:  they are not to help mitigate spread of a virus.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: Wingnut on January 23, 2021, 09:39:02 pm
LOL, I would have told her, "I would never want to work for a company that would have YOU as an employee."

You know, that would have been a better retort!. 
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: mikezpen on January 23, 2021, 10:13:41 pm
Thankfully I'm retired. And I don't know a thing about social media like twitter/facebook, so I don 't use it. However, I have posted thousands of notes on message boards like this one.They won't have trouble finding out where I stand.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: sneakypete on January 24, 2021, 01:58:58 am
Anybody who couldn't see that coming for any job more important that a waitress or busboy job is too stupid to have a good job.

I will cut the teens a little slack,though. NOBODY is thinking clearly with all those hormones exploding.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: sneakypete on January 24, 2021, 02:06:00 am
1) They can't get my real name or email address from here.
 

@BassWrangler

Of course they can. You don't think the goobermint has hackers on-call?

Or people who can just trace back your IP address,or whatever the hell they have to trace back to find your provider?

NOBODY in today's world is anonymous from the goobermint if the goobermint decides to take an interest in him or her,

NOBODY. And they ain't about to let a little thing like the Bill of Rights get in their way.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: sneakypete on January 24, 2021, 02:07:29 am
I had a final interview once with a particular nasty HR bitch for a sales job with a fortune 500 company.  I drove 3 or 4 hours to get there only to find out the final hiring decision was to be made the Bitch. It was hot as hell that day and she made me wait 30 minutes to meet with her.  She was a particularly unpleasant anbd unfriendly bulldyke.  After about 30 minute with her she asked me why I wanted to work for XYZ company?  Now I already knew she wasn't going to okay my employment so I looked her in the eyes, loosened my tie and said; "I would never want to work for a company that would have me as an employee." 
That was when security escorted me out of the building.

@Wingnut

You screwed up. You should have told her you would never work for a company that would have HER for an employee.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: sneakypete on January 24, 2021, 02:08:49 am
And that's the problem with honesty, it is never really appreciated.

@GtHawk

I really wish you would change your photo attachment. I get a little more depressed every time I see it.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: thackney on January 24, 2021, 02:24:56 am
You are tracked in so many ways deleting accounts just flags you.

Better to hide in plain sight.  Have the facebook account that with minimal use, nothing political.  Keep a profile without any flags so they don't keep looking deeper for a place like this.

Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: GtHawk on January 24, 2021, 02:27:12 am
@GtHawk

I really wish you would change your photo attachment. I get a little more depressed every time I see it.
@sneakypete
I'll change it to one that is sure to bring a smile to your face but I doubt I can keep it for long. :whistle:
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 24, 2021, 03:55:14 am
@BassWrangler

Of course they can. You don't think the goobermint has hackers on-call?

Or people who can just trace back your IP address,or whatever the hell they have to trace back to find your provider?

NOBODY in today's world is anonymous from the goobermint if the goobermint decides to take an interest in him or her,

NOBODY. And they ain't about to let a little thing like the Bill of Rights get in their way.

I'm not talking about government or hackers. HR departments won't find me here.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: sneakypete on January 24, 2021, 04:23:28 am
I'm not talking about government or hackers. HR departments won't find me here.

@BassWrangler

I'll have to take your word about that being a good thing. I have no real idea who or what HR departments are,or why we should be afraid of them.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 24, 2021, 09:46:53 pm
@BassWrangler

I'll have to take your word about that being a good thing. I have no real idea who or what HR departments are,or why we should be afraid of them.

HR = Human Resources. They are a department in most medium and all large sized companies. They are almost exclusively staffed with woke females. They are the source of things like "diversity" targets (aka quotas). They consume money and produce nothing outside of a small sub-group that helps with recruiting - in fact they are a net negative in many ways. A good friend, also an engineer, used to say "when I go senile, I'll transfer over to a job in HR."
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: DB on January 24, 2021, 10:08:09 pm
HR = Human Resources. They are a department in most medium and all large sized companies. They are almost exclusively staffed with woke females. They are the source of things like "diversity" targets (aka quotas). They consume money and produce nothing outside of a small sub-group that helps with recruiting - in fact they are a net negative in many ways. A good friend, also an engineer, used to say "when I go senile, I'll transfer over to a job in HR."

Any company with an HR department is too big...

My first corporate job tangled with the HR department to get through the door... It took a year even with the engineering department VP and other engineers wanting me there to get an entry level engineering technician job... I was promoted to senior design engineer in about 2-1/2 years with no degree or further education after I was finally hired... I quit just short of 5 years and became a consultant to them an others and about year after that started my own engineering company. We've been manufacturing our own products for about 25 years now...
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 24, 2021, 10:13:57 pm
Any company with an HR department is too big...

My first corporate job tangled with the HR department to get through the door... It took a year even with the engineering department VP and other engineers wanting me there to get an entry level engineering technician job... I was promoted to senior design engineer in about 2-1/2 years with no degree or further education after I was finally hired... I quit just short of 5 years and became a consultant to them an others and about year after that started my own engineering company. We've been manufacturing our own products for about 25 years now...

For my current job, I transfered over from another department. Because I wasn't a "diversity hire", and because they were behind on their "diversity targets", my manager had to go have lunch with the VP that runs the department to make the case why they should make an exception.

I've worked with people of all sorts of races, colors,creeds, religions - I don't care about those things and can't imagine discriminating against someone because of those characteristics. But to turn away qualified candidates so you can chase a vanishingly small pool of "diversity candidates" is insane.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on January 25, 2021, 01:43:52 am
For my current job, I transfered over from another department. Because I wasn't a "diversity hire", and because they were behind on their "diversity targets", my manager had to go have lunch with the VP that runs the department to make the case why they should make an exception.

I've worked with people of all sorts of races, colors,creeds, religions - I don't care about those things and can't imagine discriminating against someone because of those characteristics. But to turn away qualified candidates so you can chase a vanishingly small pool of "diversity candidates" is insane.
It is insane.

Watch the insanity increase as Biden's amnesty will create millions of new Americans, and he will create a class of 'new naturalized citizens' as a protected class that will be included within diversity hires.

Bank on it.  It will attempt to cement their loyalties to the Dems.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: BassWrangler on January 25, 2021, 01:52:09 am
It is insane.

Watch the insanity increase as Biden's amnesty will create millions of new Americans, and he will create a class of 'new naturalized citizens' as a protected class that will be included within diversity hires.

Bank on it.  It will attempt to cement their loyalties to the Dems.

I think you are right. But this might also end up helping us politically. None of these border crossers will have been vaccinated, and many of them will turn into COVID spreaders. We're going to have a third, bigger wave of COVID from this. And that's going to put the kibosh on the "Biden solved COVID" narrative they have planned.  Of course, if they make them all citizens, that's all moot, because they'll mostly vote for Xiden.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: dancer on January 26, 2021, 09:50:19 am
LOL, I would have told her, "I would never want to work for a company that would have YOU as an employee."
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Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on February 02, 2021, 06:33:44 pm
1) They can't get my real name or email address from here.
2) This place is like a diner in some small town. They don't even know it exists.
Am confidant some Jewish basement dwellers in Krakow thought the same thing when the Nazis were looking for purifying the country.
Title: Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 02, 2021, 07:24:24 pm
I had a policy:  I looked up all my coworkers on Bookface, and then I blocked them.