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http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/03/16/gop-to-avoid-traveling-circus-for-2016-primary-debates-priebus-nixes-liberal-moderators-106741
GOP to avoid ‘traveling circus’ for 2016 primary debates; Priebus nixes liberal moderators
March 16, 2014 by Joe Saunders
The Republican Party’s finally playing to win.
The 2016 presidential nomination process will include fewer than half the televised debates of the “traveling circus” of 2012, GOP National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus announced Friday.
Tangles between candidate Newt Gingrich and moderator Wolf Blitzer became a subplot of the 2012 Republican primary contest.
More important, Republicans are going to stop letting the mainstream media determine their agenda by determining the topics during debates, Priebus said, according to the Associated Press.
“I think a traveling circus of debates is insanity in this party,” Priebus said at the California Republican Party’s Spring Convention in Burlingame, Calif. “We’re proposing to have fewer than 10, and this time around, we’re going to pick the moderators.”
What in the world took so long?
There’s no question that the 2012 GOP nominating process was influenced heavily by a mainstream media that has no love for the Republican Party.
In January 2012 alone, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer’s tangles with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich during debate questions turned into national stories in themselves, while Clinton family protégé George Stephanopoulos single-handedly diverted the GOP campaign – and presaged a major Democrat line of attack in the general election – with his questioning of Mitt Romney about contraception.
Some of it made for good television — Newt’s putdowns of some of the libs early on were priceless — but the Republican Party nominating process isn’t “American Idol.”
How about having Republican, conservative moderators who know what they’re talking about ask the questions for a change? If Marco Rubio can win over Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham on immigration, he’ll deserve the nomination. If Ted Cruz can out-logic George Will about the government shutdown, Republicans will have their man.
If any Republican candidate — anyone at all — can be smarter or tougher than the Wall Street Journal’s Kimberley Strassel, victory is assured.
The Republican Party letting the mainstream networks choose debate moderators is like a baseball team letting opponents name the umps. There’s no doubt the men in blue are going to say they’re just doing their job, they might even really believe it. It’s just a coincidence that every call goes the wrong way.
That’s not the way to win the ball game.
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About time.
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Sandy, Christie and Candy did Governor Romney in last cycle. The big Mo was was starting for him and the trifecta of those three intervened.
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IF the GOP were really serious about playing to win, the first thing that would happen is REINCE PRIEBUS (aka Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's Kid Brother) would be ejected as GOP Chair and replaced with someone else.
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IF the GOP were really serious about playing to win, the first thing that would happen is REINCE PRIEBUS (aka Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's Kid Brother) would be ejected as GOP Chair and replaced with someone else.
word.
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IF the GOP were really serious about playing to win, the first thing that would happen is REINCE PRIEBUS (aka Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's Kid Brother) would be ejected as GOP Chair and replaced with someone else.
And would only put up real candidates, not people looking to get rich off book sales and such. Mr. (999) Herman Cain as a candidate in debates dragged them into the circus. How can you look at serious candidates when you have distractions like that going on?
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They might want to have every candidate write a "Why I Should Be The Conservative Candidate for 2016" essay in 25 words or less. Spelling and punctuation count. Winner to be determined by a snappy game game of mumble-de-peg.
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Reince, Fail, Repeat...............................................
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They might want to have every candidate write a "Why I Should Be The Conservative Candidate for 2016" essay in 25 words or less. Spelling and punctuation count. Winner to be determined by a snappy game game of mumble-de-peg.
Maybe we need two primaries-- one for conservatives and one for the moderate/liberals then let those two duke it out to be the nominee against the Democrat candidate.
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IF the GOP were really serious about playing to win, the first thing that would happen is REINCE PRIEBUS (aka Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's Kid Brother) would be ejected as GOP Chair and replaced with someone else.
Bizarre. Priebus is cleaning up the RNC after that joke, Michael Steele, making the debates more reasonable, is drawing in more campaign cash than ever, and you want to replace him.
With who? Some Tea Party fool who doesn't play well with others?
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They might want to have every candidate write a "Why I Should Be The Conservative Candidate for 2016" essay in 25 words or less. Spelling and punctuation count. Winner to be determined by a snappy game game of mumble-de-peg.
I think that a competition be held to see which candidate can field strip and reassemble an AR-15 and a 1911-A1 in the quickest time and put a full mag down range through each. The winner would have my total support.
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IF the GOP were really serious about playing to win, the first thing that would happen is REINCE PRIEBUS (aka Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's Kid Brother) would be ejected as GOP Chair and replaced with someone else.
Preibus got his job thanks to Scott Walker's good word.
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Reince, Fail, Repeat...............................................
Damned right! *girl beer*
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Maybe we need two primaries-- one for conservatives and one for the moderate/liberals then let those two duke it out to be the nominee against the Democrat candidate.
Sounds like a plan!
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Preibus got his job thanks to Scott Walker's good word.
And the GOP "performance" of 2012 should earn him a one way trip back home. He, as head of the GOP blew it, big time. No rewards for failure.
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Serious question:
He'd be replaced by, who?
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And the GOP "performance" of 2012 should earn him a one way trip back home. He, as head of the GOP blew it, big time. No rewards for failure.
LOL!!! The candidate had nothing to do with the loss, with his ridiculous "47%" remark?
Priebus is doing a fine job. Using your logic, you'll be saying what a great job he did when the Republicans take the Senate in November.
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Seriously, we are 16 months removed from the last election and we are in primary season for the next which is only 7+ months away. And we want to replace him? With who?
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LOL!!! The candidate had nothing to do with the loss, with his ridiculous "47%" remark?
Priebus is doing a fine job. Using your logic, you'll be saying what a great job he did when the Republicans take the Senate in November.
FACT: RNC took responsibility away from Romney for the GOTV for the 2012 election.
FACT: They failed miserably at GOTV
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FACT: RNC took responsibility away from Romney for the GOTV for the 2012 election.
FACT: They failed miserably at GOTV
No. The brain-dead fundies stayed at home because they hated Romney's Mormonism. Can't GOTV with a bunch of religious bigots.
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I don't like Preibus even a little bit the fact is that we are stuck with him for the moment!
Can you imagine the field day the MSM would have with a movement to oust him? I can!
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No. The brain-dead fundies stayed at home because they hated Romney's Mormonism. Can't GOTV with a bunch of religious bigots.
They didn't GOTV. That is irrefutable.
As for the fundies we don't know people didn't vote for Romney because of his religion. There is a lot that took place the day everyone voted that never should have happened and one was that fancy schmancy new cell phone ap thingy that they hadn't tested and failed.
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Congratulations to the Chairman on a prudent course of action.
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They didn't GOTV. That is irrefutable.
As for the fundies we don't know people didn't vote for Romney because of his religion. There is a lot that took place the day everyone voted that never should have happened and one was that fancy schmancy new cell phone ap thingy that they hadn't tested and failed.
And that is Priebus' fault? Good grief! There were many factors and we know a good many of them but it seems to me the failure of GOTV was something that God himself wasn't going to overcome withe the party puritans in 2012.
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They didn't GOTV. That is irrefutable.
As for the fundies we don't know people didn't vote for Romney because of his religion. There is a lot that took place the day everyone voted that never should have happened and one was that fancy schmancy new cell phone ap thingy that they hadn't tested and failed.
Conservatives didn't vote in the numbers needed. Romney beat Obama in Moderates and Independents.
Blaming Priebus for Romney's loss is like saying the owner of the Denver Broncos was responsible for their loss in the Super Bowl.
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Congratulations to the Chairman on a prudent course of action.
Yes
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And that is Priebus' fault? Good grief! There were many factors and we know a good many of them but it seems to me the failure of GOTV was something that God himself wasn't going to overcome withe the party puritans in 2012.
Yes, he is in charge of the RNC. Up until 2012 GOTV was done by the candidates campaign. In 2012 Preibus decided the RNC would be the people in charge of the GOP GOTV including the GOTV for the Romney campaign instead of the Romney campaign.
This was not "party puritans" this was a lousy GOTV program and and a lousy job of stopping fraud - things like allowing Republican poll-watchers to be kicked out of polling areas - sometimes for hours at a time and when they returned they found the votes had been 100% for Democrats while they were out...... they didn't challenge being kicked out of the vote for Allen West (for example) where the Republicans were kicked out and overnight the vote changed from West to his challenger... they never challenged known fraud in Ohio or PA, either...... so don't tell me it is "purists" that is a cop out.
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Hmmm... I see. I'm copping out. There was no one who stayed home because of Governor Romney's Mormonism? Or his "moderate" positions? It wasn't any of that. Copping out.
Copping out.
Bull$hit.
But, have it your way.
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Yes, he is in charge of the RNC. Up until 2012 GOTV was done by the candidates campaign. In 2012 Preibus decided the RNC would be the people in charge of the GOP GOTV including the GOTV for the Romney campaign instead of the Romney campaign.
This was not "party puritans" this was a lousy GOTV program and and a lousy job of stopping fraud - things like allowing Republican poll-watchers to be kicked out of polling areas - sometimes for hours at a time and when they returned they found the votes had been 100% for Democrats while they were out...... they didn't challenge being kicked out of the vote for Allen West (for example) where the Republicans were kicked out and overnight the vote changed from West to his challenger... they never challenged known fraud in Ohio or PA, either...... so don't tell me it is "purists" that is a cop out.
goopo
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Hmmm... I see. I'm copping out. There was no one who stayed home because of Governor Romney's Mormonism? Or his "moderate" positions? It wasn't any of that. Copping out.
Copping out.
Bull$hit.
But, have it your way.
The unappeasables will NEVER admit that they cost Romney the election because they didn't turn out to vote.
It was all Reince Preibus' fault!!!!
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The unappeasables will NEVER admit that they cost Romney the election because they didn't turn out to vote.
It was all Reince Preibus' fault!!!!
I have been corrected. Let's replace Priebus. Let's do it with Ted Cruz. He can surely get out the vote.
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The unappeasables will NEVER admit that they cost Romney the election because they didn't turn out to vote.
It was all Reince Preibus' fault!!!!
I'm not so sure they "cost" Romney the election; that's a little to facile an explanation for what happened.
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I'm not so sure they "cost" Romney the election; that's a little to facile an explanation for what happened.
Perhaps Oceander, but no more so than saying we should be replacing Priebus. There is a wave election coming and we still have people who are weeding the garden in self defeating ways. Get the primaries out of the way and then lets get to work for God's sake.
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I'm not so sure they "cost" Romney the election; that's a little to facile an explanation for what happened.
It's no more facile than to assert that Reince Priebus was at fault for Romney's loss.
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It's no more facile than to assert that Reince Priebus was at fault for Romney's loss.
Fair enough; but "did too" is not really a great rejoinder to "did not" is it?
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Serious question:
He'd be replaced by, who?
How about the guy or gal that actually WON a campaign or two? There are a few out here in the country that could not do worse that what Priebus has done.
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GOP to avoid ‘traveling circus’ for 2016 primary debates; Priebus nixes liberal moderators
This is good news!
This is how I imagine it will go.
Moderator: The next question is for Governor Walker.
Governor Walker, how do you feel about the definition of marriage and a woman's RIGHT to chose?
REPLY: A woman's right to chose what? Her choice of mandate to work three jobs to make ends meet? The federal government should not mandate anyones birth control or abortion nor should tax payers have to pay for it. In this country human life should be first and foremost over the life of a turtle egg which renders punishment and fines. The definition of what marriage is means absolutely nothing when people have lost their health insurance and can't find a job. I have heard some married couples got a divorce to serve them better on their credit ratings when their foreclosure hit. Can we please discuss the economy now?
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[[ IF the GOP were really serious about playing to win, the first thing that would happen is REINCE PRIEBUS (aka Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's Kid Brother) would be ejected as GOP Chair and replaced with someone else. ]]
Agreed.
Perhaps it's impolite to ask, but who would name their kid "Reince" anyway, especially with the last name of "Priebus" ???
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Hmmm... I see. I'm copping out. There was no one who stayed home because of Governor Romney's Mormonism? Or his "moderate" positions? It wasn't any of that. Copping out.
Copping out.
Bull$hit.
But, have it your way.
I am afraid that there probably were a number of people who stayed home and sat on their hands because Romney is a mormon. thankfully, as near as I can tell, none of those folks are here.
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How about the guy or gal that actually WON a campaign or two? There are a few out here in the country that could not do worse that what Priebus has done.
Psst. Priebus is doing a good job. That's why those who asked him to head the RNC want him to continue.
You really have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to just want to fire everybody who's in any position of authority or by virtue of election. Burn the place down.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTA7FohSJgE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTA7FohSJgE)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XewgUpWQyH4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XewgUpWQyH4)
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Conservatives didn't vote in the numbers needed. Romney beat Obama in Moderates and Independents.
Blaming Priebus for Romney's loss is like saying the owner of the Denver Broncos was responsible for their loss in the Super Bowl.
So the essence of this is that the GOP does need the Tea party to win!
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So the essence of this is that the GOP does need the Tea party to win!
No, the essence of this is that if the Tea Party doesn't get the candidate they want for President, they'll vote for the Democrat by staying home.
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No, the essence of this is that if the Tea Party doesn't get the candidate they want for President, they'll vote for the Democrat by staying home.
To be fair, tit for tat,
Fixed it for ya...
No, the essence of this is that if the GOPe doesn't get the candidate they want for President, they'll result to calling them- wacko-birds, they'll do anything to keep the chairmanships, insider trading slush funds, votes for their pay raises and power, they'll demonize conservatives even better than the liberals do and they'll vote for the Democrat by staying home.
Either way, look who wins. I wonder if they are laughing their asses off over at DU, Daily KOS and media matters yet?