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Title: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mystery-ak on November 08, 2018, 05:35:13 pm
Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
By Max Greenwood - 11/08/18 12:29 PM EST

Florida Sen. Bill Nelson (D) and Gov. Rick Scott (R) sparred on Thursday amid continued uncertainty over the results of their closely watched Senate race, with Nelson insisting that a recount was all but inevitable.

As of Thursday morning, Nelson and Scott were separated by roughly 22,000 votes – about 0.26 percent. In Florida, a machine recount is automatically triggered if the candidates are within 0.5 points of one another, while a hand recount is required if the margin is 0.25 percent or less.

Nelson, who is trailing Scott by an ultra-thin margin, has not conceded the race. As a recount appeared increasingly likely on Wednesday, the three-term Democrat retained Marc Elias, a prominent lawyer who has represented Democrats in a number of election fights, to work for his campaign.

Elias said Thursday that he is confident Nelson will gain votes in a recount – enough to hand him another term in the Senate. He pointed to how drastically Scott’s lead has closed in the two days since Election Day, insisting ongoing canvassing by county election supervisors would play out in Nelsons favor.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/415731-nelson-scott-spar-as-florida-senate-race-nears-hand-recount
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: RoosGirl on November 08, 2018, 05:39:47 pm
This goes to a hand count and Nelson will win.  PBC has been working furiously to create more ballots that will be found to have been put in the trunk of someone's car by accident.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 08, 2018, 05:42:08 pm
This goes to a hand count and Nelson will win.  PBC has been working furiously to create more ballots that will be found to have been put in the trunk of someone's car by accident.

Love those clean elections you guys run down there.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: libertybele on November 08, 2018, 05:45:38 pm
This goes to a hand count and Nelson will win.  PBC has been working furiously to create more ballots that will be found to have been put in the trunk of someone's car by accident.

I've lived down here since 1991 -- another couple years of Nelson would be par for the course.  I would love to see him retired, but I think you are right; a hand count = Nelson. 

I'm a lot more concerned that there could  a recount between DeSantis and Gillum.

According to the news, ballots are still being tallied in Broward; which could mean that we may have governor Gillum rather than DeSantis.  It wouldn't surprise me in the least. Him conceding when he did was plain stupid; or a political stunt.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: libertybele on November 08, 2018, 05:49:59 pm
Love those clean elections you guys run down there.

Hey, it's the damn liberals that keeping screwing things up every time!
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: Free Vulcan on November 08, 2018, 05:53:56 pm
Fortunately, even in a 60/40 Dem county like Dade or Palm Beach, it would require a bit over 100K new votes to generate a 22K Dem spread. Nelson didn't win alot of counties either, so spreading it around won't do much to hide the obvious fraud.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mystery-ak on November 08, 2018, 08:49:51 pm
Difference now is 18k votes...give them time they will have enough..
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mystery-ak on November 08, 2018, 08:56:05 pm
Marco Rubio
@marcorubio

#Florida law requires counties report early voting & vote-by-mail within 30 minutes after polls close. 43 hours after polls closed 2 Democrat strongholds #BrowardCounty & #PalmBeachCounty are still counting & refusing to disclose how many ballots they have left to count.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mystery-ak on November 08, 2018, 08:57:01 pm
Brian Cates Retweeted
marcorubio's avatar
Marco Rubio @marcorubio
19m

Latest ballots dumped by #Broward &/or #PalmBeach flipped Ag Comm race to Dem & shaved another 4k+ from Scott’s lead in Senate race

Since 3am Wed slow drip from these 2 Dem controlled counties cut Scott lead from 54 to 17K. And they refuse to disclose # of ballots they have left
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mystery-ak on November 08, 2018, 08:58:18 pm
Does the RNC have any lawyers down there...Hannity is saying the Rats are trying to steal the Senate and Gov race in Fla
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 08, 2018, 09:02:23 pm
Marco Rubio
@marcorubio

#Florida law requires counties report early voting & vote-by-mail within 30 minutes after polls close. 43 hours after polls closed 2 Democrat strongholds #BrowardCounty & #PalmBeachCounty are still counting & refusing to disclose how many ballots they have left to count.

Legally those votes don't count. It's the law.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mystery-ak on November 08, 2018, 09:08:56 pm
Legally those votes don't count. It's the law.

But they're counting them..per Hannity and Rubio
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 08, 2018, 09:16:18 pm
But they're counting them..per Hannity and Rubio

I know what they are doing. What I don't understand is why the FL GOP isn't going to court to stop it. Scott is the GD Gov for Christs sakes. What are they waiting for? A full blown Antifa riot?
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mystery-ak on November 08, 2018, 09:23:45 pm
I know what they are doing. What I don't understand is why the FL GOP isn't going to court to stop it. Scott is the GD Gov for Christs sakes. What are they waiting for? A full blown Antifa riot?

It's pissing me off..like hannity said they are stealing it right in front of us.....doing the same in Ga..
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mystery-ak on November 08, 2018, 09:25:24 pm
Look at this posting on twitter

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TheGillumGamble
‏ @TheGillumGamble
6m6 minutes ago

Urgent! There has been a recount triggered for the Governor's race. If you voted with a provisional ballot, you have until 5pm local time to produce necessary documentation to your local SOE. Call your local SOE and verify what needs to be done.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mystery-ak on November 08, 2018, 09:29:41 pm

Marco Rubio
‏Verified account @marcorubio
3h3 hours ago

Long but IMPORTANT THREAT ON ELECTIONS IN #FLORIDA.

#BayCounty was hit by a Cat 4 Hurricane just 4 weeks ago,yet managed to count votes & submit timely results.

Yet over 41 hours after polls closed #Broward elections office is still counting votes? 




Marco Rubio
‏Verified account @marcorubio
3h3 hours ago

#Broward supervisor:
- says she doesn’t know how many ballots are left to be counted; &
- Isn’t reporting hourly or regularly,but rather releasing thousands of additional votes,often in the overnight hours,that are chipping away at GOP leads




Marco Rubio
‏Verified account @marcorubio
3h3 hours ago

#Broward elections department has a history of violating the law:

A court found they improperly handled votes by mail:
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/08/13/judge-sides-with-florida-gop-in-absentee-ballot-dispute-with-broward-county-555553 (https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/08/13/judge-sides-with-florida-gop-in-absentee-ballot-dispute-with-broward-county-555553) …

Court found they destroyed ballots in 2016 in violation of state & federal law:



Marco Rubio
‏Verified account @marcorubio
3h3 hours ago

Now democrat lawyers are descending on #Florida. They have been very clear they aren’t here to make sure every vote is counted.

- They are here to change the results of election; &
- #Broward is where they plan to do it.




Marco Rubio
‏Verified account @marcorubio
3h3 hours ago

A U.S. Senate seat & a statewide cabinet officer are now potentially in the hands of an elections supervisor with a history of incompetence & of blatant violations of state & federal laws.



Marco Rubio
‏Verified account @marcorubio
3h3 hours ago

#Broward election supervisors ongoing violation of #Florida law requiring timely reporting isn’t just annoying incompetence. It has opened the door for lawyers to come here & try to steal a seat in the U.S. Senate & Florida Cabinet
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 08, 2018, 09:32:20 pm
And what is Rubio and other GOP state officials doing about it other that Twits? This is absurd. We all now know there is a problem there. You telling me there are no GOP lawyers in that state?
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 08, 2018, 09:33:35 pm
It's pissing me off..like hannity said they are stealing it right in front of us.....doing the same in Ga..

Then Scott deserves to lose if he is just going to sit around and take it.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mystery-ak on November 08, 2018, 09:42:24 pm
Then Scott deserves to lose if he is just going to sit around and take it.

I don't know who is down there...The RNC better get some lawyers down there asap
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mrclose on November 08, 2018, 10:01:21 pm
Marco Rubio
@marcorubio

#Florida law requires counties report early voting & vote-by-mail within 30 minutes after polls close. 43 hours after polls closed 2 Democrat strongholds #BrowardCounty & #PalmBeachCounty are still counting & refusing to disclose how many ballots they have left to count.

Sorry to say that I was born and raised in Lauderdale,(Broward).
It wasn't 'infested' with crooks (dems) when I was growing up!

Judge Finds ‘unlawful’ Ballot Destruction in 2016 Wasserman Schultz Race

https://shark-tank.com/2018/05/14/judge-finds-unlawful-ballot-destruction-2016-wasserman-schultz-race/ (https://shark-tank.com/2018/05/14/judge-finds-unlawful-ballot-destruction-2016-wasserman-schultz-race/)

Election Fraud in Broward County: Officials Caught Ballot Stuffing, Destroying Ballots

https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/elections/2016/11/04/election-fraud-broward-county-officials-caught-ballot-stuffing-destroying-ballots/ (https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/elections/2016/11/04/election-fraud-broward-county-officials-caught-ballot-stuffing-destroying-ballots/)
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: libertybele on November 08, 2018, 10:03:27 pm
Legally those votes don't count. It's the law.

Yes, but there's a set of rules for the DEMS and another set for the GOP.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 08, 2018, 10:05:26 pm
I don't know who is down there...The RNC better get some lawyers down there asap

They should be there already. @mrclose is citing things from previous elections that are common knowledge and everyone knew this was going to be a close race. It is dereliction of the highest order.

Now all of this is based off of what I am reading and hearing. It could be the case that the GOP is already on this and in court trying to get and stop to this as we speak and are being smart and quite about it.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 08, 2018, 10:06:15 pm
Yes, but there's a set of rules for the DEMS and another set for the GOP.

Not in the US Supreme Court.....which is where this has to head if it is happening the way things are being reported.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: catfish1957 on November 08, 2018, 10:13:05 pm
The GOP beaten rag doll sez......


Drats .....Frankened again,
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: libertybele on November 08, 2018, 10:57:50 pm
 9999hair out0000  I thought the threat of FL being under socialist rule and becoming a sanctuary state was over.  God help us.
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: mrclose on November 08, 2018, 11:08:59 pm
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Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: endicom on November 08, 2018, 11:09:00 pm
And what is Rubio and other GOP state officials doing about it other that Twits? This is absurd. We all now know there is a problem there. You telling me there are no GOP lawyers in that state?


Rubio is not a state official. If anyone, Scott should have cleaned up the Florida election mess.

Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: libertybele on November 08, 2018, 11:12:09 pm

Rubio is not a state official. If anyone, Scott should have cleaned up the Florida election mess.

It is my understanding that each county has isn't own set of election rules.  They must follow state laws, but they still can have their own set of rules.

You would think that since Bush v Gore, FL would have cleaned up its act.  Gillum conceding when he did was nothing more than a ploy. 
Title: Re: Nelson, Scott spar as Florida Senate race nears hand recount
Post by: RetBobbyMI on November 09, 2018, 12:23:59 am
Florida will ensure their election process is a national disgrace.  Wait, it already is.