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Title: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 06, 2015, 12:52:08 am
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/262234-obama-to-address-threat-of-terrorism-on-sunday-from-oval-office

 By Mario Trujillo - 12/05/15 07:00 PM EST

President Obama will discuss the San Bernardino, Calif., shootings and the broader threat of terrorism on Sunday night in a rare prime time address from the Oval Office.

The address at 8 p.m. will hit on the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS or ISIL) and how the terror threat has "evolved, and how we will defeat it," according to the White House.

"He will reiterate his firm conviction that ISIL will be destroyed and that the United States must draw upon our values – our unwavering commitment to justice, equality and freedom – to prevail over terrorist groups that use violence to advance a destructive ideology," the White House said in a statement Saturday night.

It is rare for the president to give a prime-time speech from the Oval Office, with Obama preferring instead to address the nation from the East Room.

He has made only two formal addresses from the Oval Office during his presidency, with the last one coming in 2010 to mark the end of combat troops in Iraq.

The speech will come less than a week after 14 people were killed and dozens injured during a shooting in San Bernardino, which is being investigated as an act of terrorism. It is also less than a month after the terrorist attacks in Paris, for which ISIS claimed responsibility.

Obama called the California shootings an act of terrorism earlier Saturday and said it is possible the two shooters were radicalized.

"It is entirely possible that these two attackers were radicalized to commit this act of terror,” Obama said during his weekly address. “And if so, it would underscore a threat we’ve been focused on for years — the danger of people succumbing to violent extremist ideologies."

During a briefing with national security aides, Obama was told there were no links yet uncovered to a broader terrorist cell. The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has increasingly encouraged lone wolf attacks.

The two suspects behind Wednesday’s attack in California, Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, were not on any government watch list. Shortly ahead of the attack on Wednesday, Malik is believed to have posted a Facebook message pledging allegiance to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

The Oval Office address also comes as the president is facing increasing pressure over the threat from ISIS.

Critics say Obama has underestimated the group, noting earlier remarks mocking the group as a "JV team" and claiming they had been "contained."

The White House later said Obama meant that the group's geographic advance in Iraq and Syria had been stopped.

In an interview on Thursday, Obama expressed confidence, telling the public that law enforcement was vigilant against any threats from ISIS.

"What I try to do is to make sure that people understand the threat is real, we have to be vigilant, but we also can't panic and we can't respond out of fear," Obama told CBS News.

Obama spoke with France President Francois Hollande on Friday to update him on the California shooting, and to pledge continued cooperation in fighting terrorism.

Lawmakers on Capitol Hill have debated a number of policies in the wake of the Paris attacks last month, including increased screening for refugees and strengthening screening in the U.S. visa waiver program.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 06, 2015, 12:53:03 am
blah blah blah...Religion of peace...this is not who we are..blah blah blah
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: libertybele on December 06, 2015, 01:36:33 am
The only reason that I may tune in is to see what he has to say about gun control in response to San Bernadino and if he actually publicly calls it an Islamic Terror attack...somehow I already know what to expect out of Hussein ... not much.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Carling on December 06, 2015, 02:17:47 am
blah blah blah...Religion of peace...this is not who we are..blah blah blah

I assume we'll hear something about the Crusades and how "moderate" Muslims shouldn't ever have their religion insulted, because apparently Democrats believe they are all barely-civilized blood-thirsty savages who are just waiting to have Islam insulted until they want to go all Jihad on us infidels.

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Carling on December 06, 2015, 02:20:20 am
The only reason that I may tune in is to see what he has to say about gun control in response to San Bernadino and if he actually publicly calls it an Islamic Terror attack...somehow I already know what to expect out of Hussein ... not much.

I'll wait for myst or someone else to live post it here and read the Tweets about it.  I can't stand to hear the sound of his anti-Christian/Judaism and anti-American voice.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: sinkspur on December 06, 2015, 02:26:11 am
Just make sure you're done by 7:20 in time for NFL Sunday night football. 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Bigun on December 06, 2015, 02:28:48 am
I'll wait for myst or someone else to live post it here and read the Tweets about it.  I can't stand to hear the sound of his anti-Christian/Judaism and anti-American voice.

I'll do the exact same. I know what he's going to say right now.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 06, 2015, 02:31:55 am
They are in full panic mode. Their usual narrative is unraveling and they are trying to do damage control. Can't put this one back in the box.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 06, 2015, 02:33:23 am
I'll wait for myst or someone else to live post it here and read the Tweets about it.  I can't stand to hear the sound of his anti-Christian/Judaism and anti-American voice.

Yeah make me do the dirty work..... 8888crybaby
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Carling on December 06, 2015, 02:45:51 am
Yeah make me do the dirty work..... 8888crybaby

It's your site!   :patriot:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: ABX on December 06, 2015, 03:08:36 am
blah blah blah...Religion of peace...this is not who we are..blah blah blah

blah blah blah... keep guns out of their hands.... blah blah blah... common sense... blah blah blah.. let me be clear...
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: 240B on December 06, 2015, 03:58:40 am
It is rare for me to take on the forum here and call you all a bunch of weenies, but I cannot allow these insults to Obama to go unanswered. Shame.  Shame on you all. Obama is right.

If it was possible for you to pull your collective heads out of your butts for one second, you would see as I do that terrorism is caused by by Climate Change, not by Islam. If Osama ben Laden had air conditioning, or a good job, he would have never become a terrorist. Terrorism is the fault of America, not Islam.

Islam is a wonderful beautiful religion full of nothing but beautiful lovely beautiful wonderful people who never think any bad thoughts and have never ever done anything wrong in the history of the world. (ashadu)

If we take guns from everyday Americans the terrorist will stop, and turn themselves in to authorities, just like they did in France. This is the truth that you don't want to hear only because it is coming from a half-Black/half-White guy. You bunch of racists. InshaAllah, one day we be rid of the Infidel plague on America.

You are letting your racism, cloud your common sense. Shut up and do what you are told. Obama knows better. Obama and his life-mate, are smarter, better, and more refined, than any of the people on this site could ever hope, could ever dream, of being able to achieve.

So that's my say and I stand by it. If I get banned then it is but the will of Allah.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 06, 2015, 04:11:44 am
It is rare for me to take on the forum here and call you all a bunch of weenies, but I cannot allow these insults to Obama to go unanswered. Shame.  Shame on you all. Obama is right.

If it was possible for you to pull your collective heads out of your butts for one second, you would see as I do that terrorism is caused by by Climate Change, not by Islam. If Osama ben Laden had air conditioning, or a good job, he would have never become a terrorist. Terrorism is the fault of America, not Islam.

Islam is a wonderful beautiful religion full of nothing but beautiful lovely beautiful wonderful people who never think any bad thoughts and have never ever done anything wrong in the history of the world. (ashadu)

If we take guns from everyday Americans the terrorist will stop, and turn themselves in to authorities, just like they did in France. This is the truth that you don't want to hear only because it is coming from a half-Black/half-White guy. You bunch of racists. InshaAllah, one day we be rid of the Infidel plague on America.

You are letting your racism, cloud your common sense. Shut up and do what you are told. Obama knows better. Obama and his life-mate, are smarter, better, and more refined, than any of the people on this site could ever hope, could ever dream, of being able to achieve.

So that's my say and I stand by it. If I get banned then it is but the will of Allah.

You are so right. How could we be so blind?  :chairbang:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Oceander on December 06, 2015, 04:13:40 am
It is rare for me to take on the forum here and call you all a bunch of weenies, but I cannot allow these insults to Obama to go unanswered. Shame.  Shame on you all. Obama is right.

If it was possible for you to pull your collective heads out of your butts for one second, you would see as I do that terrorism is caused by by Climate Change, not by Islam. If Osama ben Laden had air conditioning, or a good job, he would have never become a terrorist. Terrorism is the fault of America, not Islam.

Islam is a wonderful beautiful religion full of nothing but beautiful lovely beautiful wonderful people who never think any bad thoughts and have never ever done anything wrong in the history of the world. (ashadu)

If we take guns from everyday Americans the terrorist will stop, and turn themselves in to authorities, just like they did in France. This is the truth that you don't want to hear only because it is coming from a half-Black/half-White guy. You bunch of racists. InshaAllah, one day we be rid of the Infidel plague on America.

You are letting your racism, cloud your common sense. Shut up and do what you are told. Obama knows better. Obama and his life-mate, are smarter, better, and more refined, than any of the people on this site could ever hope, could ever dream, of being able to achieve.

So that's my say and I stand by it. If I get banned then it is but the will of Allah.

I am so ashamed that I didn't see it before!  You are so correct!  :silly:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 06, 2015, 05:50:17 am
Can't think of one reason to sit and watch a fake American read a series of lies from the teleprompter of the United States.  Done that already.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 06, 2015, 04:05:01 pm
He will use the term 'homeland' many times. he will say he will from a blue ribbon panel on how to pass a law like they did in Australia on guns. Or he will just present a EO saying without guns terrorist won't attack us. He will also say he will not tolerate hate crimes towards muslims and say they will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

He will say these people were not the face of islam and lone wolf cell. He will say nice things about muzzies. and how this is a country rich with all types of religions. He will say that this year their have been 355 mass shootings , only have had 4....he will use that for his gun taking agenda. Or he will tell congress to pass gun loophole laws and a gun registry. He will tell them he has a pen and a phone. He will whistle when he speaks and or looked stoned.

edit to add he many blame climate change for the attack too.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Scottftlc on December 06, 2015, 04:12:38 pm
Can't listen to a word uttered by this treasonous POS any longer. Do want to know if he has a Carter-like epiphany...Ha! the narcissistic Islamic psychopath does not even have the decency of what was previously the worst president in modern history. 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 06, 2015, 04:14:21 pm
blah blah blah...Religion of peace...this is not who we are..blah blah blah

 :beer:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 06, 2015, 04:19:02 pm
It will truly be riveting to see what direction he takes tonite. San Bernadino has completely derailed the delusional narrative the Admin has been trying to force on the American people as they try to guide us all down their little yellow brick road. Now that narrative is completely at odds with reality and they are anywhere from floundering to outright confrontational trying to get ahead of this and back in control.

So are they going to be reactionary and try to stuff it back in the box, or spin and roll it to their advantage somehow? Knowing Obama's inflexibility on these things, I expect the former. That could make the next year or so very politically interesting.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 06, 2015, 04:43:50 pm
It will truly be riveting to see what direction he takes tonite. San Bernadino has completely derailed the delusional narrative the Admin has been trying to force on the American people as they try to guide us all down their little yellow brick road. Now that narrative is completely at odds with reality and they are anywhere from floundering to outright confrontational trying to get ahead of this and back in control.

So are they going to be reactionary and try to stuff it back in the box, or spin and roll it to their advantage somehow? Knowing Obama's inflexibility on these things, I expect the former. That could make the next year or so very politically interesting.
What have they done in the past........double or triple down on a issue. You know they have to get our guns. I am expecting some type of EO. His press secretary said this week that gun control would stop terrorist attacks here.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 06, 2015, 04:45:21 pm
CBS twitter feed (@CBSNlive) states talk with be 'gun control'.

What a surprise.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Oceander on December 06, 2015, 04:45:28 pm
What have they done in the past........double or triple down on a issue. You know they have to get our guns. I am expecting some type of EO. His press secretary said this week that gun control would stop terrorist attacks here.

That would not surprise me.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 06, 2015, 04:52:25 pm
He will mention the no fly list people can buy guys. 2000 of them according to cnn. Yet he knew of that law in 2011 why didn't he act then? Senate tried to change it last week, it failed? Why? So he could use it in his gun law language. Once he EO' one gun law that gives him the way to do more gun EO' or actions.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 06, 2015, 04:56:15 pm
CBS twitter feed (@CBSNlive) states talk with be 'gun control'.

What a surprise.
CBS News Verified account ‏@CBSNews

Tonight, @CBSNlive streams @POTUS' urgent address to the nation on gun control at 8 P.M. ET http://cbsn.ws/1Rxwz3J 

the comments are interesting

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/673511864987459584/photo/1
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 06, 2015, 05:00:11 pm
On *gun control*...what about terrorism?....go ahead and talk about gun control and climate change..then I pray someone draws up Articles of Impeachment cause I think the American people are just about ready to support it.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Scottftlc on December 06, 2015, 05:00:15 pm
CBS twitter feed (@CBSNlive) states talk with be 'gun control'.

What a surprise.

Oh that would be delicious - if he comes out for gun control (or tries an EO) while at the same time saying he is going to bring in tens of thousands Syrian refugees (jihadi free for all), he could be signing his party's own suicide letter (Hillary might not last the night). And he could be brewing an open revolt, no way Americans will abide by that in this environment and the police won't go along either.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 06, 2015, 05:03:32 pm
On *gun control*...what about terrorism?....go ahead and talk about gun control and climate change..then I pray someone draws up Articles of Impeachment cause I think the American people are just about ready to support it.

Hear hear
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 06, 2015, 05:12:01 pm
What have they done in the past........double or triple down on a issue. You know they have to get our guns. I am expecting some type of EO. His press secretary said this week that gun control would stop terrorist attacks here.

And that's going to be a jab in the eye of Americans. The liberal chickens are coming home, because they've used Hollywood to turn people into a bunch of emotionally driven and feral creatures. Now they will tell us to ignore our fear and not arm and defend ourselves against terrorists, there is no terrorist problem, and oh yeah don't be politically incorrect against Muslims either or we'll prosecute. Climate change is the real issue for goodness sake.

Going to predict that it is all going to backfire on them, and I don't think they're going to get a handle on this one. In fact I think the reaction is going to herd the current politics of the country in a completely different direction.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 06, 2015, 05:14:51 pm
Oh that would be delicious - if he comes out for gun control (or tries an EO) while at the same time saying he is going to bring in tens of thousands Syrian refugees (jihadi free for all), he could be signing his party's own suicide letter (Hillary might not last the night). And he could be brewing an open revolt, no way Americans will abide by that in this environment and the police won't go along either.

It's a feeling only, but this may be the desired outcome of a perverse administration.  Confident ValJar is crafting his 'talk'.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 06, 2015, 05:16:52 pm
It's a feeling only, but this may be the desired outcome of a perverse administration.  Confident ValJar is crafting his 'talk'.

Of course she is..nothing gets said or done without her stamp of approval
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 06, 2015, 05:22:08 pm
Oh that would be delicious - if he comes out for gun control (or tries an EO) while at the same time saying he is going to bring in tens of thousands Syrian refugees (jihadi free for all), he could be signing his party's own suicide letter (Hillary might not last the night). And he could be brewing an open revolt, no way Americans will abide by that in this environment and the police won't go along either.
Open revolt.....Martial law.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 06, 2015, 05:42:55 pm
The President will tell America 'do not give in to fear' tonight: Third Oval Office address of Obama's presidency will focus on terror threat amid a 'rethink' of strategy - but could also call for more gun control

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3348114/As-Obama-prepares-address-nation-Homeland-Security-officials-rethinking-airline-security-visa-processes-enters-new-phase-global-terrorist-threat.html

Quote
Obama will address the nation from the Oval Office Sunday at 8pm ET
He will speak about the investigation into the San Bernardino killings as well as the threat to America from terrorism and his plan to defeat ISIS
Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said that US should increase number of agents in airports abroad and tighten standards for visa waivers

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Sanguine on December 06, 2015, 06:43:43 pm
Can't think of one reason to sit and watch a fake American read a series of lies from the teleprompter of the United States.  Done that already.

He's either a fake American or a traitorous one. 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 06, 2015, 07:16:22 pm
It's a feeling only, but this may be the desired outcome of a perverse administration.  Confident ValJar is crafting his 'talk'.

And that is the trillion dollar question. Is he going to continue in denial, or use this crisis to his advantage? I'm betting on denial. Let's hope it's not the other.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: ArneFufkin on December 06, 2015, 08:55:46 pm
I can't take being lectured by a feckless buffoon.   I'll pass.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 06, 2015, 09:09:01 pm
I can't take being lectured by a feckless buffoon.   I'll pass.

Me too.   Have to sort my socks.    :whistle:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: EdinVA on December 06, 2015, 10:05:05 pm
I will listen to the SOB and hope I can keep my TV in tack.... BUT, will switch when the dallas redskins game starts... :)
Priorities....
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: sinkspur on December 06, 2015, 10:09:01 pm
I will listen to the SOB and hope I can keep my TV in tack.... BUT, will switch when the dallas redskins game starts... :)
Priorities....

THat's tomorrow.

Tonight it's the Steelers vs. the Colts.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: EdinVA on December 06, 2015, 10:25:07 pm
THat's tomorrow.

Tonight it's the Steelers vs. the Colts.

Oh man.... that means I gotta watch whats his name....
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 06, 2015, 10:27:51 pm
Oh man.... that means I gotta watch whats his name....

"Morgan"....in The Walking Dead?   :laugh:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 06, 2015, 10:28:06 pm
I'll have the shower hot and ready to go with two bars of soap and a scrub brush, ready to run to as soon as he's done speaking.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: 240B on December 06, 2015, 10:59:45 pm
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it Obama. Look, Hussein, I get it already.

Yes, I know Christianity sucks, Islam is wonderful and beautiful and great. How many times are you going to tell us the same Schick. We got it. OK?

You love Islam. Fine, leave us alone with that crap. We get it. Go away.

Yeah, I know, global warming is going to kill everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the same old recording just won't stop.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Oceander on December 07, 2015, 12:13:49 am
The President will tell America 'do not give in to fear' tonight: Third Oval Office address of Obama's presidency will focus on terror threat amid a 'rethink' of strategy - but could also call for more gun control

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3348114/As-Obama-prepares-address-nation-Homeland-Security-officials-rethinking-airline-security-visa-processes-enters-new-phase-global-terrorist-threat.html



In other words he's going to pretend to channel FDR and "we have nothing to fear but fear itself".
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mountaineer on December 07, 2015, 12:19:34 am
I'm going to skip this BSfest of a speech, the GBR thread and Twitter, as well. The Picksburgh Stillers are playing and I shall be on the couch watching the football game. If anyone changes the channel to that idiot's speech, there's no telling what harm may befall the TV.

I just can't take it any more.  8888crybaby

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Bigun on December 07, 2015, 12:37:46 am
Here's my prebuttal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK7MYvliSnk
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: ABX on December 07, 2015, 12:55:08 am
Any bets how late he'll be?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 12:57:51 am
Any bets how late he'll be?

He maybe on time..he's changing into black tie and going to some event afterwards...I missed what the event was..
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 12:58:59 am
West Wing Reports ‏@WestWingReport 36s37 seconds ago

President to speak for approx 15 mins; he asked GOP Congress nearly a year ago to authorize force against ISIS; so far it has not
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:00:00 am

Jordan Fabian Verified account
‏@Jordanfabian

POTUS will attend Kennedy Center Honors after tonight's Oval Office address, WH says. Trip was initially scrapped after speech was announced
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:00:55 am
David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 1m1 minute ago

The people are mortified. Islamists are waging war on us and Obama aids and abets them by denying they are and also by trying to disarm us.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 01:02:03 am
Drinking game words:  "....not who we are."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:02:04 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVlaEVXWEAA4l5B.png)
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:02:54 am
Glenn Thrush ‏@GlennThrush now South Kensington, MD

Standing in the Oval
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:03:20 am
Charlie Spiering ‏@charliespiering 20s21 seconds ago

Obama still referring to the San Bernardino incident as a “tragedy” not terrorism
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:03:40 am
John McCormack ‏@McCormackJohn 7s8 seconds ago

Obama: "this was an act of terrorism," the killers embraced "perverted interpretation of Islam"
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:04:08 am
David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 36s36 seconds ago

It doesn’t matter if they were part of a broader conspiracy. You tireless apologist
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:04:27 am
NPR Politics ‏@nprpolitics 39s39 seconds ago

Obama: So far we have no evidence were directed by elements overseas but they had "gone down the dark path of radicalization"
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: ABX on December 07, 2015, 01:04:51 am
He just admitted Fort Hood was a terrorist attack?

Did he screen the teleprompter comments before making them?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:04:56 am
Christina Bellantoni ‏@cbellantoni 15s15 seconds ago

Comparing San Bernardino to Ft. Hood, Chattanooga.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:05:31 am
Michael Steele ‏@MichaelSteele 55s56 seconds ago

President Obama: "This was an act of terrorism".
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Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:05:51 am
Barack Obama News ‏@ObamaNews now

The threat from terrorism is real, but we will overcome it. -BO
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Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:06:21 am
Roger Simon ‏@politicoroger 40s40 seconds ago

Pres. Obama: "I know we see our kids in the faces of the young people who died in Paris."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:06:40 am
Mike Memoli ‏@mikememoli 15s16 seconds ago

.@POTUS: We will defeat ISIL and other groups not by giving into fear, but "by being strong and smart."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:07:03 am
White House Live ‏@WHLive 16s16 seconds ago

"We will continue to provide training and equipment to tens of thousands of Iraqi and Syrian forces fighting ISIL on the ground"
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:07:24 am
Andrea Mitchell ‏@mitchellreports 20s20 seconds ago

Obama says threat from terrorism is real but we will prevail by not giving in to tough talk or fear that's what ISIL wants
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 07, 2015, 01:07:56 am
drink when he says "ISIL"
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:08:20 am
Josh Rogin ‏@joshrogin now

No new initiatives in Obama speech, just a rehash of stuff we are already doing. Not likely to reassure the public
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:08:37 am
Charlie Kirk ‏@charliekirk11 49s49 seconds ago

Obama is not serious about killing radical Islamists. He has had years to do something. This is all theater.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:08:54 am
David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 52s52 seconds ago

American leadership? LOLOL. OMG.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 07, 2015, 01:09:09 am
here it comes...gun control
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: ABX on December 07, 2015, 01:09:29 am
Now, here at home.... and here we go....

No fly list = no gun
No more assault weapons
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:10:05 am
David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 28s28 seconds ago

Could he seem any less engaged? Passionate?



Matt Walsh ‏@MattWalshBlog 6m6 minutes ago

He actually just said the word "Islam." You know he must be panicked.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:10:20 am
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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:10:41 am
BuzzFeed News ‏@BuzzFeedNews 2m2 minutes ago

Obama: “With American leadership, the international community has begun to establish a process and timeline" to resolve the Syrian civil war
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Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:11:06 am
NPR Politics ‏@nprpolitics 4s4 seconds ago

Obama: We should not be drawn into long ground conflict in Syria.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:11:40 am
Jon Feere ‏@JonFeere 2m2 minutes ago

Obama pledges to help seal Turkey's border during Oval Office address... Nothing about America's borders yet
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Oceander on December 07, 2015, 01:11:58 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVlaSQnUAAAvEmD.png)

"Talk to the hand, girl, talk to the hand."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:11:59 am
Crystal Wright ‏@GOPBlackChick 40s41 seconds ago

Obama blames Congress for his incompetence. Says Congress needs to give authority to fight Syria+ISIS.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 07, 2015, 01:12:15 am
wind up:  defend islam at all costs!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:12:30 am
Noah Pollak ‏@NoahPollak 13s14 seconds ago

Obama at his most passionate arguing that ISIL does not represent Islam.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:12:51 am
Huffington Post ‏@HuffingtonPost 48s49 seconds ago

.@POTUS: "We cannot turn against one another by letting this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:13:11 am
Gillian Roberts ‏@gkroberts 1m1 minute ago Washington, DC

Obama urges Congress to look at visa waivers and to limit sales of assault rifles like those used in Calif shooting
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: ArneFufkin on December 07, 2015, 01:13:32 am
Obama has a pathological need to refer to the Islamic State as ISIL when every other American knows them as ISIS or the Islamic State.

It's a strange dissonance and indicates how removed he is from the events of his tenure and the existential threat.

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Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 01:13:59 am
Crystal Wright ‏@GOPBlackChick 40s41 seconds ago

Obama blames Congress for his incompetence. Says Congress needs to give authority to fight Syria+ISIS.

Effin, crazy Kenyan.....do you mean like you needed it when you went into Libya on your own?    **nononono*
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:14:12 am
Emily Miller ‏@EmilyMiller 8s9 seconds ago

Pres. Obama wants Muslim leaders to stop whatever causes radicalization.
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Glenn Thrush ‏@GlennThrush 1m1 minute ago South Kensington, MD

Important speech cos Obama is saying he's sticking with his 2008 no-war core:  'We should not be drawn into a long and costly war...'
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Post by: Lando Lincoln on December 07, 2015, 01:14:27 am
Yeah make me do the dirty work..... 8888crybaby

Could be worse, myst. A lot worse. It could be me doing it.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Oceander on December 07, 2015, 01:14:38 am
Huffington Post ‏@HuffingtonPost 48s49 seconds ago

.@POTUS: "We cannot turn against one another by letting this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam."

Dear dodo-head:  that definition has already been made, and the only ones who can unmake it are those muslims who claim to want peace; let them excise the cancer in their midst; the rest of us are fully justified in self-defense against muslims qua muslim until they have removed that cancer.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 01:14:43 am
Huffington Post ‏@HuffingtonPost 48s49 seconds ago

.@POTUS: "We cannot turn against one another by letting this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam."

....the hell we can't.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:15:19 am
Stephen Hayes ‏@stephenfhayes 43s43 seconds ago

Not surprising, but stunning in a way: POTUS seems to be giving a speech announcing no real change of strategy against ISIS.



Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller 40s40 seconds ago

Obama’s pick-me-up: “Let’s make sure we never forget what makes us exceptional. Let’s not forget that freedom is more powerful than fear”
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 07, 2015, 01:16:02 am
Lying SOB

Faking his oh so concern
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:16:27 am
Charlie Spiering ‏@charliespiering 31s31 seconds ago

Obama finally delivers his presidential moment - two weeks late
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Oceander on December 07, 2015, 01:16:27 am
Stephen Hayes ‏@stephenfhayes 43s43 seconds ago

Not surprising, but stunning in a way: POTUS seems to be giving a speech announcing no real change of strategy against ISIS.



Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller 40s40 seconds ago

Obama’s pick-me-up: “Let’s make sure we never forget what makes us exceptional. Let’s not forget that freedom is more powerful than fear”


Obama is desperately trying to channel FDR and his "we have nothing to fear, but fear itself."

It ain't working.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:17:13 am
Katrina vandenHeuvel ‏@KatrinaNation 2m2 minutes ago

President Obama/ "Freedom is more powerful than fear"/
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 01:17:33 am
Stephen Hayes ‏@stephenfhayes 43s43 seconds ago

Not surprising, but stunning in a way: POTUS seems to be giving a speech announcing no real change of strategy against ISIS.



Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller 40s40 seconds ago

Obama’s pick-me-up: “Let’s make sure we never forget what makes us exceptional. Let’s not forget that freedom is more powerful than fear”

Uh-huh.  And so is a filled gun cabinet.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:18:49 am
Tammy Bruce ‏@HeyTammyBruce 23s23 seconds ago

Krauthammer: Obama's speech an effort to change the subject.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:19:13 am
Speaker Cruz ‏@HavanaTed 1m1 minute ago

Shame on Obama for politicizing this tragedy by arguing that we shouldn't allow terrorists to have guns.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:19:28 am
David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 13m13 minutes ago

This couldn’t be less heartfelt. I’m sick of it.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:19:46 am
Garrett Jackson ‏@dgjackson 2m2 minutes ago

So, I'm confused. @BarackObama just outlined no changes in his failed strategy to defeat ISIS.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:20:37 am
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James Woods ‏@RealJamesWoods 8h8 hours ago

Happy little group...
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:21:16 am

Donald J. Trump Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump

Is that all there is? We need a new President - FAST!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: truth_seeker on December 07, 2015, 01:22:19 am
I believe he recognizes muslims in America may wind up in crosshairs soon, if this sh!te doesn't stop.

So his speech is above all, aimed to protect them from angry Americans.

That was surprisingly short and sweet. Get in, Get tough, Get out.

(Listening to CNN and Fox on TuneIn Radio, streaming via wifi on my smartphone.)
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:22:32 am
Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin 7m7 minutes ago

Obama wants us to remember Muslims in the US military. He forgets the lessons Nidal Hasan taught at Fort Hood.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:23:21 am
Kevin Jackson ‏@Theblacksphere 2m2 minutes ago

Juan Williams is deranged! He thinks Obama gave a great speech!?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:24:12 am

Bill Kristol Verified account
‏@BillKristol

I guess he had to keep the speech short in order to make it over to the Kennedy Center honors.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Lando Lincoln on December 07, 2015, 01:24:31 am
He's done?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:25:07 am
Patrick Dollard ‏@PatDollard 55s55 seconds ago

You'll notice that @POTUS lectured Christians about being "bad" but in no way lectured Muslims about anything.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Oceander on December 07, 2015, 01:25:12 am
Maybe he'll get a second Nobel Peace Prize for "peace in our time"!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:25:28 am
Monica Crowley ‏@MonicaCrowley 9m9 minutes ago

This speech was a Valerie Jarrett special: all optics, designed to show Obama "engaged," but totally empty, meaningless and dangerous.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Paladin on December 07, 2015, 01:25:34 am
Fiddle. Due to family circumstances I was in a car listening to the speech, missed some of it, and now have to read through the thread and get caught up on comments. Btw, I am watching Fox talking heads just now and Juan Williams I note is being his usual ridiculous self.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 07, 2015, 01:26:02 am
Was that what everybody raves about:  The Walking Dead?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:27:00 am
He's done?

Yeah..he needs to change and head over to the Kennedy Center to hobnob with all his celebrity friends..the limo is waiting
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 07, 2015, 01:28:20 am
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3cib3fK139M/TVJ_5fTMMYI/AAAAAAAAGaQ/h4ABh1n3mEg/s400/Cartoon+1495.jpg)
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: 240B on December 07, 2015, 01:28:23 am
Islam, and Islamic people are responsible for all that is good on Earth today, in spite of the hideous evil forces of European and American Christian evil.

History shall not belong to those who slander the mighty and Holy name of the one and only prophet of Allah. Every dead infidel is praise to his holy name.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Oceander on December 07, 2015, 01:28:41 am
Please forgive my childish little "joke":


Why is Michelle always on top?

Because Barack can only fcuk up.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:29:51 am
David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 3m3 minutes ago

Americans are being attacked and abused, including by this president, and he is lecturing us? He makes me ill.





GregGutfeld ‏@greggutfeld 9m9 minutes ago

"Being President sucks," says some skinny guy walking to the room where his tuxedo is laid out in all its finery (smokes in left pocket)
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:31:15 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2015/12/06/president-obama-to-skip-kennedy-center-honors-performance/

President Obama will be late to Kennedy Center Honors performance

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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 01:32:03 am
Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin 7m7 minutes ago

Obama wants us to remember Muslims in the US military. He forgets the lessons Nidal Hasan taught at Fort Hood.

Yeah....those "Muslim" brothers influenced my oldest son.     Today, I swear he has grown to hate capitalism, the United States, and the 'White Man".

A real piece of work.....
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:32:03 am
Stephen Hayes ‏@stephenfhayes 27m27 minutes ago

Obama says terrorists have turned to "less complicated acts of violence."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:32:52 am
Sean M. ‏@morelikeregular 13m13 minutes ago

So...
1. We'll fight them, but not really with like the Army and junk.

2. GUN CONTROL!!!!!11!!!

3. Be nice to Muslims.

That's it.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: aligncare on December 07, 2015, 01:34:33 am

I listened to Christmas music, instead. Old blue eyes... "I'll be home for Christmas."

From what I read here Obama didn't say anything that he hasn't been saying all along, which is to say, squat.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Paladin on December 07, 2015, 01:38:11 am
Yeah..he needs to change and head over to the Kennedy Center to hobnob with all his celebrity friends..the limo is waiting

He's really going to this? Couldn't he show even a modicum of class by stating that out of deference to the dead San Bernardino he feels such an event would be inappropriate? The bodies aren't even cold yet.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: alicewonders on December 07, 2015, 01:38:35 am
Yeah....those "Muslim" brothers influenced my oldest son.     Today, I swear he has grown to hate capitalism, the United States, and the 'White Man".

A real piece of work.....

Sad to hear.   8888crybaby

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Bigun on December 07, 2015, 01:38:53 am
John McCormack ‏@McCormackJohn 7s8 seconds ago

Obama: "this was an act of terrorism," the killers embraced "perverted interpretation of Islam"

Total BS!

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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 07, 2015, 01:39:01 am
Transcript for those who couldn't bear to listen:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/06/heres-what-obama-said-in-his-sunday-night-address-an-annotated-transcript/
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Lando Lincoln on December 07, 2015, 01:39:49 am
Yeah....those "Muslim" brothers influenced my oldest son.     Today, I swear he has grown to hate capitalism, the United States, and the 'White Man".

A real piece of work.....

That saddens me, DCP.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Paladin on December 07, 2015, 01:41:20 am
Someone should tell Bambi that with the exception of himself and his equally cowardly WH sycophants Americans are not afraid, they are righteously po'd.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 07, 2015, 01:43:37 am
I have personal experience with a coworker trying to convert me to islam years ago.  Pakistani (wealthy parents) who came in through Canada.  Our Friday tech meetings were adjusted for his 'prayer' time including change of garb.  Spreading the caliphate is as old as Medina.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 07, 2015, 01:44:59 am
Someone should tell Bambi that with the exception of himself and his equally cowardly WH sycophants Americans are not afraid, they are righteously po'd.

 :howlin: :howlin: :howlin:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: alicewonders on December 07, 2015, 01:45:24 am
I listened to Christmas music, instead. Old blue eyes... "I'll be home for Christmas."

From what I read here Obama didn't say anything that he hasn't been saying all along, which is to say, squat.

You made the right choice ac.  I'm "fluffing" the tree back out from where the kitten climbs in it.  She's having a great Christmas!

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12274184_1212504212098202_5581511280331530826_n.jpg?oh=9b52261334fed6ec4d75d7b7f1fec45c&oe=5720B37B)

Enjoy the rest of your evening.   :beer:

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 01:46:49 am
That saddens me, DCP.

Thanks, Lando.  And thanks, Alice.

It's like being in the company of a relative that has been in the nuthouse and is enjoying a weekend pass.  Seriously.

And don't even get me started on his FaceBook timeline.....
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Bigun on December 07, 2015, 01:47:30 am
I have personal experience with a coworker trying to convert me to islam years ago.  Pakistani (wealthy parents) who came in through Canada.  Our Friday tech meetings were adjusted for his 'prayer' time including change of garb.  Spreading the caliphate is as old as Medina.

ABSOLUTELY!!! and it is not some "perverted form of Islam!  It is ISLAM!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Sanguine on December 07, 2015, 01:50:23 am
Just got in - have I missed it yet?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 07, 2015, 01:52:19 am
Thanks, Lando.  And thanks, Alice.

It's like being in the company of a relative that has been in the nuthouse and is enjoying a weekend pass.  Seriously.

And don't even get me started on his FaceBook timeline.....

Sorry to hear that man. I can't imagine the frustration to see someone close sucked in by all that.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mystery-ak on December 07, 2015, 01:54:18 am
James Woods ‏@RealJamesWoods 33m33 minutes ago

No surprises. He may have a difficult time amending the Bill of Rights, because it will take a constitutional amendment to do what he wants
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 01:56:26 am
James Woods ‏@RealJamesWoods 33m33 minutes ago

No surprises. He may have a difficult time amending the Bill of Rights, because it will take a constitutional amendment to do what he wants

Thank God!     :0001:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Sanguine on December 07, 2015, 01:57:25 am
Thank God!     :0001:

And, the founding fathers!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 01:58:21 am
Sorry to hear that man. I can't imagine the frustration to see someone close sucked in by all that.

Yeah, FV....he's become more militant in his views.   He's a very angry man.

But I love when we're hugging each other.   I hold him close to me.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 07, 2015, 02:01:34 am
Yeah, FV....he's become more militant in his views.   He's a very angry man.

But I love when we're hugging each other.   I hold him close to me.


Hold him tight, DC.  He's young.  Time (and prayer) can change us.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: aligncare on December 07, 2015, 02:02:20 am
I have personal experience with a coworker trying to convert me to islam years ago.  Pakistani (wealthy parents) who came in through Canada.  Our Friday tech meetings were adjusted for his 'prayer' time including change of garb.  Spreading the caliphate is as old as Medina.

The whole Islam thingy perfectly fit the seventh century. But here in Realsville, in addition to 15% of the practitioners being totally whacked out homicidal religious bigots, the religious practices themselves are too cumbersome to fit into the modern world. You can pry my bacon from my cold dead hands!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: aligncare on December 07, 2015, 02:05:04 am
You made the right choice ac.  I'm "fluffing" the tree back out from where the kitten climbs in it.  She's having a great Christmas!

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Enjoy the rest of your evening.   :beer:

Nothing beats a Torti in a Christmas tree... :beer:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Scottftlc on December 07, 2015, 02:42:28 am
God, I ended up hearing it even though I wanted to avoid it. He didn't really double-down overtly...perhaps the evidence is too clear and too widely known...but it was a vacuous, empty message. He really wasted our time on a Sunday during Christmas to say that?  No gravitas.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: evadR on December 07, 2015, 02:44:34 am
ISIS--Obama--AlQaeda
The Axis of Evil
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: evadR on December 07, 2015, 02:45:40 am
I said I would watch until I heard the 10th lie.
Ten sentences into the speech, the quota was met.
::CLICK::
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 03:02:57 am
Hold him tight, DC.  He's young.  Time (and prayer) can change us.

He's going to be 46 the end of January.  He's not 'young'.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 07, 2015, 03:06:05 am
He's going to be 46 the end of January.  He's not 'young'.

I did not mean to be insulting, DC.  Forty-six is 'young' to me.  My son was 42 when I lost him.  He was still my child.  So forgive my presumption.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: sinkspur on December 07, 2015, 03:09:32 am
He's going to be 46 the end of January.  He's not 'young'.

46 is young. 75 is old.  Everything in between is seasoned.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: libertybele on December 07, 2015, 03:12:27 am
On *gun control*...what about terrorism?....go ahead and talk about gun control and climate change..then I pray someone draws up Articles of Impeachment cause I think the American people are just about ready to support it.

Just about ready? Good grief, I've been proposing impeachment for at least the past 3 years...he's inflicted more destruction on this country than all presidents combined (IMHO).  He's only got about a year left ... impeachment would keep him busy ... now if we can just get Hillary into one of those orange jumpsuits we'd be all set.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Sanguine on December 07, 2015, 03:13:41 am
Just about ready? Good grief, I've been proposing impeachment for at least the past 3 years...he's inflicted more destruction on this country than all presidents combined (IMHO).  He's only got about a year left ... impeachment would keep him busy ... now if we can just get Hillary into one of those orange jumpsuits we'd be all set.

I like your attitude.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 03:20:53 am
I did not mean to be insulting, DC.  Forty-six is 'young' to me.  My son was 42 when I lost him.  He was still my child.  So forgive my presumption.

So sorry to hear about your loss, famous.   Such horror to bury a child.

Never take anything you say as 'insulting'.   Forty-six is young to me too.   But, not in this context.

He converted back around 1991-1992.

He was a great dancer.  Won cash prizes in the discos in Spain, while he was stationed in Germany.  So the brothas embraced him.

Adopted him.   Safety in numbers, I suppose.  To this day, he refers to them as his "peeps".

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 07, 2015, 03:41:03 am
So sorry to hear about your loss, famous.   Such horror to bury a child.

Never take anything you say as 'insulting'.   Forty-six is young to me too.   But, not in this context.

He converted back around 1991-1992.

He was a great dancer.  Won cash prizes in the discos in Spain, while he was stationed in Germany.  So the brothas embraced him.

Adopted him.   Safety in numbers, I suppose.  To this day, he refers to them as his "peeps".

Time can work wonders.  I was 40++ when I woke up.  Sad, but true.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on December 07, 2015, 06:03:48 am
Yeah make me do the dirty work..... 8888crybaby
That is why you make the big 0 bucks.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on December 07, 2015, 06:09:52 am
the comments are interesting

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/673511864987459584/photo/1

They are interesting.  Thanx for the link.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on December 07, 2015, 07:13:52 am
Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin 7m7 minutes ago

Obama wants us to remember Muslims in the US military. He forgets the lessons Nidal Hasan taught at Fort Hood.
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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on December 07, 2015, 07:21:07 am
He's done?
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Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
Is that all there is? We need a new President - FAST!

I have been tone deaf to discontent in the GOP...but really?  This is a Presidential address?  He didn't address nothing!  "We will continue..."  The man is tone deaf to reality.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on December 07, 2015, 07:25:27 am
Sean M. ‏@morelikeregular 13m13 minutes ago

So...
1. We'll fight them, but not really with like the Army and junk.

2. GUN CONTROL!!!!!11!!!

3. Be nice to Muslims.

That's it.

Almost completely summed up the speech in 3 points...only thing that was missed was this is the GOP's fault.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on December 07, 2015, 07:41:13 am
I did not mean to be insulting, DC.  Forty-six is 'young' to me.  My son was 42 when I lost him.  He was still my child.  So forgive my presumption.
Very sad.  No parent should have to bury their child.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on December 07, 2015, 08:07:21 am
He converted back around 1991-1992.

He was a great dancer.  Won cash prizes in the discos in Spain, while he was stationed in Germany.  So the brothas embraced him.

Adopted him.   Safety in numbers, I suppose.  To this day, he refers to them as his "peeps".

In 2005, my oldest boy was an antisocial teenager with no interest in girls.  My biggest fear was he was gay.  My next fear was he would climb a bell tower with a rifle.  My next fear was he would join the military because of my admiration of our US soldiers.  I resigned myself to love him regardless.  Seems like an easy decision, compared to your situation, but it kept me from sleeping many nights.

My son married a gorgeous catholic girl a couple years ago, and is soon to get a degree in music from a CA college.  I could not be happier for him.

I wouldn't presume to offer advice as a parent.  I will offer my sympathy and understanding of how you may be beating yourself up for your child's life choices.  They don't give us a manual to follow when we become parents, and parents are not mind readers.  Only your son can decide what is the right path for him.

You provided shelter, food, education, and love.  That is all you can do.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: rangerrebew on December 07, 2015, 11:24:26 am
'Muslims are our friends, neighbors and sports heroes': Obama interrupts Sunday night TV to preach tolerance and gun control but pledges no ground war against the 'thugs' of ISIS 'death cult'

    Obama addressed the nation from the Oval Office for only the third time
    He spoke about the investigation into the San Bernardino killings as well as the threat to America from terrorism and his plan to defeat ISIS
    Obama declared the killings an 'act of terrorism' and said the perpetrators went down the 'dark path of radicalization'
    He called on Congress to pass legislation barring individuals on the no-fly list from purchasing guns, saying it was a matter of national security
    He also called for laws that make it harder for people to buy 'powerful assault weapons'
    Full news coverage of US President Obama at www.dailymail.co.uk/obama 

By Francesca Chambers, White House Correspondent For Dailymail.com

Published: 20:09 EST, 6 December 2015 | Updated: 01:22 EST, 7 December 2015
 

President Barack Obama used his Sunday night address on terrorism to reassure the American people that the San Bernardino shootings last week appear to be an isolated incident, despite one of the killers pledging allegiance to ISIS.

The president firmly dismissed a change in strategy in the war against the extremists that would require combat troops on the ground in Iraq and Syria.

And while the terrorist group is made up of 'thugs and killers' and is part of a 'cult of death', he again refused to call them 'radical Islamic terrorists'.

Americans must not take out their grievances with the fanatics on followers of Islam, he said.

'Muslim Americans are our friends and our neighbors are coworkers, our sports heroes. And yes, they are our men and women in uniform who are willing to die in defense of our country,' the president said, speaking from the Oval Office. 'We have to remember that.'

He also called on Congress to pass legislation barring individuals on the no-fly list from purchasing guns.

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President Barack Obama used his Sunday night address on terrorism to assure the American people that the California shootings last week appear to be an isolated incident and urged them to treat followers of Islam with tolerance
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President Barack Obama used his Sunday night address on terrorism to assure the American people that the California shootings last week appear to be an isolated incident and urged them to treat followers of Islam with tolerance
Tashfeen Malik
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Syed Farook
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Tashfeen Malik (left) met husband and fellow San Bernardino attacker Syed Farook (right), 28, through a dating website. He flew to Saudi Arabia to meet her and brought her back to the US on a fiancée visa
Obama also pressed for gun control measures after the shooters' stockpile of weapons and ammunition were found. Above, the remains of an SUV involved in Farook and Malik's shootout with police
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Obama also pressed for gun control measures after the shooters' stockpile of weapons and ammunition were found. Above, the remains of an SUV involved in Farook and Malik's shootout with police

The symbolic use of the Oval Office was an attempt by Obama to set a tone of political gravitas equal to the moment after repeated accusations that he underestimated the threat from ISIS and was too slow to identify the San Bernardino mass murder as domestic terrorism.

In only the third Oval address, Obama declared the killings an 'act of terrorism' and said the perpetrators went down the 'dark path of radicalization'.

But there is 'no evidence' they were directed to commit the murders by a specific terrorist group nor is the United States under threat of an imminent attack, he said.

The FBI is still 'gathering the facts', Obama declared, but that much is known.

Syed Farook, a 28-year-old American, and Tashfeen Malik, his 29-year-old wife born in Pakistan - both Muslims - carried out the massacre which left 14 dead and 21 injured. The duo were killed in a police stand-off.

Malik is said to have pledged allegiance to ISIS on Facebook at the time of the rampage.

The FBI is investigating the shooting spree as a terrorist attack, it said Friday.

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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: rangerrebew on December 07, 2015, 11:41:09 am

CAIR Welcomes Obama’s ‘Rejection of Islamophobia’ in Oval Office Address

(Update: CAIR welcomed what it called President Obama's "rejection of Islamophobia" following the speech on Sunday night. It pointed in particular to Obama's statement that "Muslim Americans are our friends and neighbors, our coworkers, our sports heroes, and yes, they are our men and women in uniform who are willing to die in defense of our country. We have to remember that."  Earlier story is below.)

(CNSNews.com) – Ahead of President Obama’s primetime Oval Office address on the terrorist threat Sunday – following what appears to be the deadliest terror attack on U.S. soil since 9/11 – the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) urged the president to use the opportunity to condemn what it called “rising Islamophobia”

“Hate-filled rhetoric and anti-Muslim attacks are putting the lives of American Muslims and their families in real danger,” said the group’s national executive director, Nihad Awad.

“We are particularly concerned by an emerging pattern of government officials and employees, as well as other public figures, seeming to endorse or encourage violence against Muslims.”

Awad said that since the Paris terror attacks last month CAIR has received more reports about attacks, threats, intimidation and discrimination against Muslims – or people thought to be Muslim – and against Islamic institutions “than during any other limited period of time since the 9/11 terror attacks.”

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS/ISIL) claimed credit for the orchestrated Nov. 13 attacks in the French capital, which cost 130 lives, and is also associating itself with last week’s mass shooting in San Bernardino, California.

Law enforcement authorities are treating the killing of 14 people at a party attended by county employees as a terrorist attack, although Attorney General Loretta Lynch said Sunday it was too soon to say whether ISIS was indeed responsible.

The perpetrators in San Bernardino, subsequently killed in a shootout with police, were a Muslim married couple – the U.S.-born son of Pakistani immigrants, Syed Rizwan Farook, and his Pakistani-born wife Tafsheen Malik, who lived for years in Saudi Arabia and moved to the U.S. in mid-2014 on a “fiancé visa.”

Awad called on Obama to include in his address “a clear condemnation of the rising anti-Muslim attacks and hysteria we have witnessed in recent weeks, and to state that violence against American Muslims and their institutions will not be tolerated.”

“ISIS knows it cannot defeat our nation militarily, so the terror group’s only hope is to divide Americans along religious and ethnic lines,” he said. “This address provides the opportunity to clearly demonstrate national unity, not division.”

CAIR, which calls itself “the nation’s largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization,” did not elaborate Sunday on its allegation about government officials and public figures “seeming to endorse or encourage violence against Muslims.”

But in previous recent statements it has accused some GOP presidential candidates of espousing “extreme anti-Muslim rhetoric and falsehoods.”

It has also said the climate was being worsened by the debate over Syrian refugees, charging that some state governors and lawmakers were “playing on public fears and spreading misinformation about the federal government's ability to screen Syrian refugees being resettled into the United States.”

Source URL: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/condemn-rising-islamophobia-cair-urges-obama-ahead-oval-office
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: rangerrebew on December 07, 2015, 11:43:51 am
Obama, however, does not reject cop-phobia, anglo-phobia, conservative-phobia, or veteran-phobia to name a few phobias Obama wants people to accept.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 12:32:11 pm
In 2005, my oldest boy was an antisocial teenager with no interest in girls.  My biggest fear was he was gay.  My next fear was he would climb a bell tower with a rifle.  My next fear was he would join the military because of my admiration of our US soldiers.  I resigned myself to love him regardless.  Seems like an easy decision, compared to your situation, but it kept me from sleeping many nights.

My son married a gorgeous catholic girl a couple years ago, and is soon to get a degree in music from a CA college.  I could not be happier for him.

I wouldn't presume to offer advice as a parent.  I will offer my sympathy and understanding of how you may be beating yourself up for your child's life choices.  They don't give us a manual to follow when we become parents, and parents are not mind readers.  Only your son can decide what is the right path for him.

You provided shelter, food, education, and love.  That is all you can do.

Thanks, Once-Ler.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mountaineer on December 07, 2015, 03:58:53 pm
Why did Obammy stand during the speech? Maybe too much time with Reggie left his behind a little tender, I don't know.
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Why was President Obama standing during his Oval Office address?

President Obama spoke on live TV from the Oval Office on Sunday night to tell the world that the United States will not take the threat of terrorism sitting down. So he didn't sit down.

Maybe it's as simple as that. Or maybe he strained his back playing basketball on Saturday and needed to stand for medical reasons. Whatever the impetus, let's get one thing straight: Obama's choice to stand at a podium in his office rather than sit behind the Resolute Desk, as is customary in an Oval Office address, was very deliberate — as all decisions about presidential imagery are.

It's not as though he keeps a dais parked in front of the desk all the time. The mere fact that he and his staff said, "Hey, let's bring one in," means they believed there was something to gain by getting the president on his feet.

What were they going for? And did it work?

Dismissing the hoops hypothesis as pretty far-fetched, I'm betting Obama's upright posture was the result of two considerations: the way he would be perceived and the way he would feel.

We've long been told — and know intuitively — that standing up makes you look more powerful and confident. This is why phrases such as "stand up for yourself" and the aforementioned "not going to take this sitting down" exist in our culture. Obama's critics consistently call him weak on terrorism, which was part of the reason he spoke Sunday night. Standing up is a simple, unstated way for him to project strength.

More important to the president, however, might be what standing up does for his own comfort level. As we at The Fix noted before the speech (and before we knew Obama would be at the lectern), he seemed stiff and uncomfortable in his two previous Oval Office addresses, when he took the more traditional seated posture. ...

Read the rest at WashPoo (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/07/why-was-president-obama-standing-up-in-his-oval-office-address/)
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: alicewonders on December 07, 2015, 04:12:27 pm
Why did Obammy stand during the speech? Maybe too much time with Reggie left his behind a little tender, I don't know.
Read the rest at WashPoo (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/07/why-was-president-obama-standing-up-in-his-oval-office-address/)

He knows that he looks small behind the desk.  It definitely is an attempt at projecting strength to counter the world's perception that he is weak.  It is painful to watch.

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 07, 2015, 04:51:14 pm
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'Muslims are our friends, neighbors and sports heroes':
Name one muslim sports hero?

and here is the money quote for me..............................

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For seven years, I've confronted this evolving threat each and every morning in my intelligence briefing, and since the day I took this office, I have authorized U.S. forces to take out terrorists abroad precisely because I know how real the danger is.

we know that is a lie. He has said it himself many times he only meets with them once or every two weeks. We also know our millitary is begging him to let them take out isis targets. So pretty much anything he had way after this last paragraph went in one hear  and out the other. Also why was he standing...they did the polls and found out that made him look better?  Cnn right after his speech wasn't happy about it for a bit.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 07, 2015, 04:54:01 pm
God, I ended up hearing it even though I wanted to avoid it. He didn't really double-down overtly...perhaps the evidence is too clear and too widely known...but it was a vacuous, empty message. He really wasted our time on a Sunday during Christmas to say that?  No gravitas.
Yes I was surprised a bit he didn't double down. He did do that whistle a couple of times. But he didn't say what I thought he would
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 07, 2015, 04:56:09 pm

Sorry to hear this DC.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 05:08:39 pm
Sorry to hear this DC.

Thanks.  Hopefully it will all work out. 
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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 07, 2015, 05:19:31 pm
Thanks.  Hopefully it will all work out.
Hope so.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 07, 2015, 05:30:16 pm
Name one muslim sports hero?

and here is the money quote for me..............................

we know that is a lie. He has said it himself many times he only meets with them once or every two weeks. We also know our millitary is begging him to let them take out isis targets. So pretty much anything he had to say after this last paragraph went in one hear  and out the other. Also why was he standing...they did the polls and found out that made him look better?  Cnn right after his speech wasn't happy about it for a bit.

Obama Lies About Intelligence Briefings in Speech to Nation

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/07/obama-lies-about-intelligence-briefings-in-speech-to-nation/

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President Barack Obama tried to reassure the American people from the Oval Office on Sunday evening that he takes the threat of terrorism seriously: “For seven years, I’ve confronted this evolving threat each morning in my intelligence briefing.” However, as the Government Accountability Institute (GAI) has shown, Obama skips more than half of his daily intelligence briefings.

The data comes from the White House itself, which has admitted Obama’s absence but has said he reads the material on his iPad.

In 2012, just before the Benghazi attacks, the GAI released a study covering Obama’s Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) attendance from January 2009 through mid-June 2012. It found that “During his first 1,225 days in office, Obama attended his PDB just 536 times–or 43.8 percent of the time. During 2011 and the first half of 2012, his attendance became even less frequent–falling to just over 38 percent. By contrast, Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush almost never missed his daily intelligence meeting.”

In 2014, the GAI released another study, showing Obama’s pattern of absenteeism had continued. As Breitbart News’ Wynton Hall reported:

    A new Government Accountability Institute (GAI) report reveals that President Barack Obama has attended only 42.1% of his daily intelligence briefings (known officially as the Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB) in the 2,079 days of his presidency through September 29, 2014.

    The GAI report also included a breakdown of Obama’s PDB attendance record between terms; he attended 42.4% of his PDBs in his first term and 41.3% in his second.

Some PDB’s contained information about Islamic State.

When asked about the data, then-National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said it did not matter that Obama skipped briefings. The Washington Post’s Marc Thiessen reported: “Vietor did not dispute the numbers, but said the fact that the president, during a time of war, does not attend his daily intelligence meeting on a daily basis is ‘not particularly interesting or useful.’”

 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: EdinVA on December 07, 2015, 06:04:15 pm
I was hoping to hear something along the lines of securing the borders, "inventory" of known alien visitors/residents (both legal or otherwise), temporary hold on any more refugees until security protocols reviewed and solidified.

Heard nothing of the sort....
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Sanguine on December 07, 2015, 06:14:12 pm
I was hoping to hear something along the lines of securing the borders, "inventory" of known alien visitors/residents (both legal or otherwise), temporary hold on any more refugees until security protocols reviewed and solidified.

Heard nothing of the sort....

As in, something that would effectively work to counter the actual threat?  Not out of this administration.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: DCPatriot on December 07, 2015, 06:34:59 pm
LOL!  Local radio talk show host Chris Plante said today that the Syed's wife came to the U.S. on a K-9 visa.

 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: andy58-in-nh on December 07, 2015, 06:53:47 pm
LOL!  Local radio talk show host Chris Plante said today that the Syed's wife came to the U.S. on a K-9 visa.

Now that's funny right there. :laugh:

Although come to think of it, I didn't think they liked dogs.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 07, 2015, 06:59:53 pm
Last night was a stop gap attempt at damage control. The admin has doubled and tripled down on their narrative, and tried to shove it down our throats, and then reality came along to blow it all up in their faces. They are now desperately scrambling to regain traction and last nights bland C- speech illustrates it. It was a last ditch effort to get ahead of it and avoid looking completely irrelevant.

Obama and crew have smugly and smirkily bullied and played this nation like a harp for the last 7 years and one single event has completely leveled them. I'm not sure they know how to recover, and Obama is too inflexible to try something different.

It will be interesting to see what Hillary does. She's going to have to cut ties with this Admin at some point, and Obama isn't going to like that. Might result in an interesting little cat fight.

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: musiclady on December 07, 2015, 07:02:05 pm
As in, something that would effectively work to counter the actual threat?  Not out of this administration.

We just have to pray that we survive the next year..........
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: Sanguine on December 07, 2015, 07:49:23 pm
.....I'm not sure they know how to recover, and Obama is too inflexible to try something different...

I think that's exactly right.  He and his handler VJ, grew up with the communist/community activist/revolutionary handbook, and have never learned or understood any other viewpoint.  Even their view of islam is seen through that lens.  I don't think they have the ability to see anything else or to be flexible.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: mountaineer on December 07, 2015, 09:01:55 pm
The best thing about Odumbo's speech is that everyone is criticizing it, even his media pals. That must be a sad thing for el Presidente Thin Skin.  ^-^
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 08, 2015, 05:31:11 pm
The best thing about Odumbo's speech is that everyone is criticizing it, even his media pals. That must be a sad thing for el Presidente Thin Skin.  ^-^
Right after the speech I went to msnbc.....................they were not pleased at all by the speech. Then.....went to football.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: musiclady on December 08, 2015, 08:39:08 pm
Right after the speech I went to msnbc.....................they were not pleased at all by the speech. Then.....went to football.

Do you remember what they said at msnbc, flowers?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 08, 2015, 09:07:17 pm
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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 08, 2015, 09:08:55 pm
Do you remember what they said at msnbc, flowers?
No but it was a regular on that channel and he was almost livid at the speech. Cnn was upset too. I just posted that article.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: musiclady on December 08, 2015, 09:37:44 pm
No but it was a regular on that channel and he was almost livid at the speech. Cnn was upset too. I just posted that article.

Thanks.  I'll take a look.

It's good news if his worshippers are turning on him.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD: Obama to deliver rare Oval Office address Sunday..8pmest on terror threat
Post by: flowers on December 08, 2015, 09:53:29 pm
Thanks.  I'll take a look.

It's good news if his worshippers are turning on him.
Yet if he had a third term they would still vote for him again. It is nice to watch though.