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Title: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kiosks
Post by: rangerrebew on June 14, 2019, 01:27:11 pm
Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kiosks - but 'Islam' and 'Koran' get the all-clear

    Words such as Jesus, church and Bible were replaced with asterisks in captions

    This is because new software wrongly thinks the words are profanities

    It was not just religious words affected, with the word Canadian also banned

    Kmart said it was an error and it would be fixed with a software update

By Charlie Moore For Daily Mail Australia

Published: 16:47 EDT, 12 June 2019 | Updated: 20:39 EDT, 12 June 2019

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7134853/Kmart-bans-religious-words-Jesus-church.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7134853/Kmart-bans-religious-words-Jesus-church.html)
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: Sanguine on June 14, 2019, 01:59:02 pm
K-Mart?  Are they still in business?
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 14, 2019, 02:07:00 pm
This is the Australian K-mart. Same brand, but separate company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kmart_Australia
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 14, 2019, 02:20:59 pm
K-mart had better watch out, or they may have to start closing stores!

Oh, wait....
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: roamer_1 on June 14, 2019, 07:51:48 pm
K-Mart?  Are they still in business?

We've still got em... And I would rather go there than Wallyworld.
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 15, 2019, 07:54:29 am
We've still got em... And I would rather go there than Wallyworld.
Actually, I miss ours.  K mart had a better toy section.... (With 13 grandkids and 10 great grands, that matters).
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: roamer_1 on June 15, 2019, 03:45:21 pm
Actually, I miss ours.  K mart had a better toy section.... (With 13 grandkids and 10 great grands, that matters).

I still get my shoes there, by and large... Not sh*tkickers, of course, or mocs, or muks, but lightweight hikers, construction boots and such all come from the KMarche. I have tried otherwise, but always come back.

Clothes were generally JCPenny or KMart most my life... Anymore my tshirts come from Duluth Trading Co now, jeans, overalls, and such come from the ranch store... but I still get a lot otherwise from the KMart.

Craftsman tools - Not handy for me, since the actual Sears store is right down the way for me.
Outdoors, camping, hunting, etc...

Yeah... most the stuff you can get from the Wallyworld is better got at the KMart.
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: Sanguine on June 15, 2019, 03:51:26 pm
The last K-marts I remember were lightly stocked, none too clean and sort of ghetto.  Not a place I wanted to shop.  I guess that's why they aren't here any more.
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 15, 2019, 09:26:46 pm

wonder how @Jazzhead approaches this as Kmart advertised for photos, so how can it not provide photos?

did the Colorado Civil Rights Commission step in and levy fines against Kmart?

if not, then why not?
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: Jazzhead on June 16, 2019, 12:14:40 am
wonder how @Jazzhead approaches this as Kmart advertised for photos, so how can it not provide photos?

did the Colorado Civil Rights Commission step in and levy fines against Kmart?

if not, then why not?

Well, it appears to be nothing more than a software glitch,  but if a business seeks to suppress profanities or blasphemies on its printed photo-captions,  it see no reason why it should not be able to do so.    Canadians are, after all, the devil's spawn.   
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: libertybele on June 16, 2019, 12:42:20 am
Actually, I miss ours.  K mart had a better toy section.... (With 13 grandkids and 10 great grands, that matters).

13 grandkids and 10 greats?  God has certainly blessed you!!!  happy77 happy77
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: sneakypete on June 16, 2019, 02:18:44 am
Does this mean Mexicans named Hay-Zues (Jesus) can't get photos at K-Mart?

I smell a discrimination suit in the making.
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 16, 2019, 02:40:52 am
Well, it appears to be nothing more than a software glitch,  but if a business seeks to suppress profanities or blasphemies on its printed photo-captions,  it see no reason why it should not be able to do so.    Canadians are, after all, the devil's spawn.
So a business gets to decide what is blasphemy or not?
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on June 16, 2019, 02:55:10 am
So a business gets to decide what is blasphemy or not?

Sure, as long as I get to define blasphemy for everyone.
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 16, 2019, 12:04:11 pm
13 grandkids and 10 greats?  God has certainly blessed you!!!  happy77 happy77
Yes, He has!
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: Jazzhead on June 16, 2019, 12:47:55 pm
So a business gets to decide what is blasphemy or not?

I think that's the exact argument that Phillips needs to put before the Court.   What is prohibited as unlawful discrimination is discrimination that is arbitrary, not discrimination based on a demand to replicate an offensive message,  or as here, a deliberate provocation.

There is a difference between an unsuspecting customer being blindsided by a shop owner's bigotry,  and a shop owner being provoked to commit a blasphemy.    The law exists to remedy real harms, not manufactured harms proffered by cynical ambulance chasers.     
Title: Re: Kmart bans customers using religious words such as 'Jesus' or 'church' at its photo printing kio
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 16, 2019, 07:44:53 pm
There is a difference between an unsuspecting customer being blindsided by a shop owner's bigotry,  and a shop owner being provoked to commit a blasphemy.    The law exists to remedy real harms, not manufactured harms proffered by cynical ambulance chasers.   
am not perceiving any difference between the two.

In both cases, seems the shopowner is assessing whether blasphemy occurred, and his judgement only is the basis for the assessment.