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Title: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: libertybele on January 11, 2021, 06:53:39 pm
Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA

Joe Biden’s agenda for increased gun control has hit peak intensity after he made his intentions clear to turn Americans’ right to purchase firearms into an over-regulated nightmare, all while opulent politicians are free to keep their armed security.

In a blanket statement Friday, the former vice president vowed to “defeat the NRA” and fulfill the radical left’s gun control wish list. As a so-called solution to gun violence, he has vowed to pass even more background check requirements as well as a ban on so-called assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.

This comes in spite of strongly increasing gun violence in American cities that already have these measures in place...........

...........“Bingo, you’re right…if you have an assault weapon, the fact of the matter is, they should be illegal. Period,” he stated.
“I would institute a national buyback program and I would make sure that is what we do, to get them off the street.”

Furthermore, at a campaign rally in South Carolina last February, he criticized the protection of lawful commerce in Arms Act, which protects gun manufacturers from being held liable for crimes committed with guns they produced.

“We passed a bill in 2007 that exempted, exempted gun manufacturers from being sued…the only industry that in America, that is exempt,’ said Biden. “Well, I got news for ya gun manufacturers: I’m coming for you and I’m gonna take you down.”

He added, the first thing he will do as president is work to get rid of that measure and strongly increase gun control across the board..............

https://www.oann.com/joe-biden-pledges-to-defeat-the-nra/ (https://www.oann.com/joe-biden-pledges-to-defeat-the-nra/)
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: libertybele on January 11, 2021, 09:36:48 pm
Concerning to say the least. I say it will take less then a month for gun confiscation to begin.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: jafo2010 on January 12, 2021, 08:46:23 am
I could be wrong, but this is an issue where some Dems will abandon the team, fearful the NRA will work diligently to remove them in the next election.  No small issue.  I doubt they will get any guns, but they may well get certain paraphernalia banned, large clips, anything that converts semi auto to auto, etc

If he comes out of the chute with this right off, I consider that a mistake.  These idiot politicians should start with little victories and build to the big stuff.   They always want to tackle the hard stuff, or the most difficult, as in Trump taking on healthcare, a huge mistake.  Perhaps Biden will make some of the same mistakes, which only causes descension in the ranks with failure after failure.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: verga on January 12, 2021, 12:31:00 pm
Lifetime member here: The NRA has been doing more than enough internally in the past two years to give themselves a couple of black eyes.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: cato potatoe on January 12, 2021, 03:32:48 pm
I sure do appreciate it when Biden inserts a "period" at end of a sentence.  It's a tell ... either he knows very little about the subject, or has no intention of following through.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: goatprairie on January 12, 2021, 11:04:54 pm
I think Biden should pledge to try something workable like a bowel movement. Biden is paying lip service to assuage the gun grabbers in their party.
Nothing will happen.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: verga on January 13, 2021, 12:28:47 pm
I think Biden should pledge to try something workable like a bowel movement. Biden is paying lip service to assuage the gun grabbers in their party.
Nothing will happen.
The obama care legislation was written before he set foot in office. If you don't think the libs have done the exact same thing with gun control you are incredibly naive. It will be at least 200 pages and will not be called gun control, it will be called something innocuous like "gun safety", or "crime prevention". It will begin incrementally and the next thing you know the ATF is knocking on your door.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 13, 2021, 01:01:25 pm
Patience, we're almost there...

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Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: GtHawk on January 13, 2021, 04:51:18 pm
The obama care legislation was written before he set foot in office. If you don't think the libs have done the exact same thing with gun control you are incredibly naive. It will be at least 200 pages and will not be called gun control, it will be called something innocuous like "gun safety", or "crime prevention". It will begin incrementally and the next thing you know the ATF is knocking on your door.
Agree, and I doubt Biden could remeber even the the little talking points they give him, he will probably start saying 'you know, the thing the thing' more often until they just flat out stuff him in the White House basement or wherever their onsite morgue is and just bullshit us with he's working dilligently for the Americn people.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 13, 2021, 08:43:42 pm
Agree, and I doubt Biden could remeber even the the little talking points they give him, he will probably start saying 'you know, the thing the thing' more often until they just flat out stuff him in the White House basement or wherever their onsite morgue is and just bullshit us with he's working dilligently for the Americn people.
Notice that any time there is some nutcase blamed for a mass shooting event (hey, the MSM has been real busy hating on Trump, so they haven't had time for their regular agenda so much) the bills come out of the woodwork to ban firearms, register them, require insurance, etc. etc. etc. All they are waiting for is a date and bill number, and maybe some paragraph updated in the 'whereas' section of the resolution or legislation. They have this stuff idling at the starting line.

That's to be expected of the Communists who will let no crisis go to waste, even if they have to create it. With media controlled, who is to say any different than their narrative: witness what is being done with the Capitol protests, and what was done with the election itself.

The bills are lined up at the hopper, they will move fast and hard with everything they can, and the 'added security' in the Capital (and around the Capitol) will only protect them from protests or repercussions. Typically, the Democrats (commies) overreach, so I don't expect any incremental action, but more of a 'shock and awe' approach where they go for the full wish list. Be ready, get over your normalcy bias, because these are not and will not be 'normal' times.

Daily, their press (and squadrons of internet trolls) try to make criminals out of ordinary and decent people while covering for the real criminals out there. Don't fall for that dreck.

Do not let your spirit be bludgeoned with the carefully parsed hatred of the Communists for Patriotic Americans, our Liberty, and ultimately our power which they want to seize for themselves. Recall 1984. It's the first step to tear you down to get you to love Big Brother.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: Idiot on January 13, 2021, 09:06:33 pm
Notice that any time there is some nutcase blamed for a mass shooting event (hey, the MSM has been real busy hating on Trump, so they haven't had time for their regular agenda so much) the bills come out of the woodwork to ban firearms, register them, require insurance, etc. etc. etc. All they are waiting for is a date and bill number, and maybe some paragraph updated in the 'whereas' section of the resolution or legislation. They have this stuff idling at the starting line.

That's to be expected of the Communists who will let no crisis go to waste, even if they have to create it. With media controlled, who is to say any different than their narrative: witness what is being done with the Capitol protests, and what was done with the election itself.

The bills are lined up at the hopper, they will move fast and hard with everything they can, and the 'added security' in the Capital (and around the Capitol) will only protect them from protests or repercussions. Typically, the Democrats (commies) overreach, so I don't expect any incremental action, but more of a 'shock and awe' approach where they go for the full wish list. Be ready, get over your normalcy bias, because these are not and will not be 'normal' times.

Daily, their press (and squadrons of internet trolls) try to make criminals out of ordinary and decent people while covering for the real criminals out there. Don't fall for that dreck.

Do not let your spirit be bludgeoned with the carefully parsed hatred of the Communists for Patriotic Americans, our Liberty, and ultimately our power which they want to seize for themselves. Recall 1984. It's the first step to tear you down to get you to love Big Brother.
Yup....it's coming.  AR's will be the first to go.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: Fishrrman on January 13, 2021, 10:21:13 pm
Smokin' Joe wrote:
"The bills are lined up at the hopper, they will move fast and hard with everything they can, and the 'added security' in the Capital (and around the Capitol) will only protect them from protests or repercussions."

I'm wonderin' if at least some of the "troops at the Capitol" are going to remain permanently stationed there...

Joe also wrote:
"Typically, the Democrats (commies) overreach, so I don't expect any incremental action, but more of a 'shock and awe' approach where they go for the full wish list."

The late John Prine (in "I Sang The Song"):
"It ain't braggin' if you done it".

Told ya that to tell ya this:
You don't "overreach" when you've got the votes to pass anything you want.
Better get used to it.
It's coming.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: goatprairie on January 14, 2021, 12:15:48 am
The obama care legislation was written before he set foot in office. If you don't think the libs have done the exact same thing with gun control you are incredibly naive. It will be at least 200 pages and will not be called gun control, it will be called something innocuous like "gun safety", or "crime prevention". It will begin incrementally and the next thing you know the ATF is knocking on your door.
Many sheriffs and leos across the country have stated they will do nothing about grabbing guns if ordered to do so by their state officials. I doubt ATF people are going around trying to confiscate weapons. They would be met with a polite no, and then told to shove off. There WOULD!! be a shooting war.
Gun confiscation has been the liberal wet dream for many decades. It hasn't happened so far. I don't see it happening in the near future.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: catfish1957 on January 14, 2021, 12:18:51 am
Concerning to say the least. I say it will take less then a month for gun confiscation to begin.

(https://insidetheeyelive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/494-Beto-ORourke-Hell-Yes-We-Wil-Take-Your-Guns.jpg)
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: libertybele on January 14, 2021, 12:19:53 am
Many sheriffs and leos across the country have stated they will do nothing about grabbing guns if ordered to do so by their state officials. I doubt ATF people are going around trying to confiscate weapons. They would be met with a polite no, and then told to shove off. There WOULD!! be a shooting war.
Gun confiscation has been the liberal wet dream for many decades. It hasn't happened so far. I don't see it happening in the near future.

Antifa and other subversives will stage a riot, martial law will be declared granting permission for gun confiscation. UN troops will be happy to assist.  They confiscated guns in New Orleans during Katrina.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: catfish1957 on January 14, 2021, 12:23:04 am
UN troops will be happy to assist.  They confiscated guns in New Orleans during Katrina.

Wear a Teal Helmet in this country?  Who'd want that Death Wish?
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: andy58-in-nh on January 14, 2021, 12:33:04 am
Concerning to say the least. I say it will take less then a month for gun confiscation to begin.

The Federal government of the United States is not going to confiscate anything. Ever.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: LMAO on January 14, 2021, 12:49:23 am
The Federal government of the United States is not going to confiscate anything. Ever.

Every democrat has promised to defeat the NRA as far back as I remember
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: goatprairie on January 14, 2021, 02:14:56 am
Antifa and other subversives will stage a riot, martial law will be declared granting permission for gun confiscation. UN troops will be happy to assist.  They confiscated guns in New Orleans during Katrina.
They confiscated guns that were stolen or abandoned. They didn't go door to door.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: goatprairie on January 14, 2021, 02:16:45 am
Every democrat has promised to defeat the NRA as far back as I remember
Many millions of average Democrat voters have guns. I have a liberal son-in-law who hunts and takes his son hunting. I doubt he'd support gun confiscation.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: catfish1957 on January 14, 2021, 03:54:43 am
The Federal government of the United States is not going to confiscate anything. Ever.

LMAO, tell that to the poor folks back in 1933, and the gold they held.  And before then (1919-1933) try to make your home brew or whiskey.

And if you want to think these things aren't possible in the future, then knock yourself out and think that.  At your own peril.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: sneakypete on January 14, 2021, 04:06:38 am
They confiscated guns that were stolen or abandoned. They didn't go door to door.

@goatprairie

Really? They knew where the stolen and ABANDONED (?) guns were hiding,so they confiscated them?

Did Santa tell you this? It has to be one of the most absurd things I have ever read.

Who the HELL has ever even heard of "abandoned" guns,and if the po-po knew where the stolen guns were hiding,why didn't they already get them and return them to their owners?
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 14, 2021, 07:56:56 am
LMAO, tell that to the poor folks back in 1933, and the gold they held.  And before then (1919-1933) try to make your home brew or whiskey.

And if you want to think these things aren't possible in the future, then knock yourself out and think that.  At your own peril.
That gold didn't go as well as they thought it would. Many resisted by starting coin collections and kept it (along with the Gold Certificates as well). I recall, in my youth seeing a collection that survived that and in private hands. Use the same loopholes they keep for themselves, and always remember, what the government doesn't know won't hurt you.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 14, 2021, 07:57:48 am
They confiscated guns that were stolen or abandoned. They didn't go door to door.
As a matter of fact, they did go door to door, and it caused a hell of an outcry.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: catfish1957 on January 14, 2021, 01:20:35 pm
That gold didn't go as well as they thought it would. Many resisted by starting coin collections and kept it (along with the Gold Certificates as well). I recall, in my youth seeing a collection that survived that and in private hands. Use the same loopholes they keep for themselves, and always remember, what the government doesn't know won't hurt you.

Though not door to door, don't think for a moment that left side of our government doesn't have an eye on our 401K's and IRA's.  In prep to start an updated better equitably dispersable governemt social security plan.  That will be the confiscation of confiscations.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: sneakypete on January 14, 2021, 03:50:58 pm
Though not door to door, don't think for a moment that left side of our government doesn't have an eye on our 401K's and IRA's.  In prep to start an updated better equitably dispersable governemt social security plan.  That will be the confiscation of confiscations.

@catfish1957

Not to mention the old-fashioned seizing of all bank accounts and safety deposit boxes. That,along with the pressure the fed can apply to banks to make them immediately start repossession seizures after missing just ONE payment can make damn near anybody immediately surrender to the Borg.

Don't think so? Imagine yourself suddenly homeless with no income coming in and no credit cards,and ALL of your assets have been seized so you no longer have anything left to sell.

Not only that,but ANY cash you do receive,such as gifts from friends or relatives are also seized because the government considers themselves to be number 1 when it comes to collections,so ANY cash or other asset you are given belongs to them,not you.

Yeah,there ARE people who own their homes free and clear. I'm one of them.

Doesn't mean a single damn thing because the government can seize your home to pay off back taxes,fines,or for any other reason,real OR imaginary that they can come up with.

Who is to tell them they can't,THEIR judges in THEIR courts?
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on January 14, 2021, 09:20:06 pm
Start a war, Joe, but you will not like the result.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: GtHawk on January 15, 2021, 02:39:01 am
Start a war, Joe, but you will not like the result.
Not like he'll be in any position of authority for it.................or even the end maybe, I'll bet Hillary is still pissed.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 15, 2021, 02:23:52 pm
@catfish1957

Not to mention the old-fashioned seizing of all bank accounts and safety deposit boxes. That,along with the pressure the fed can apply to banks to make them immediately start repossession seizures after missing just ONE payment can make damn near anybody immediately surrender to the Borg.

Don't think so? Imagine yourself suddenly homeless with no income coming in and no credit cards,and ALL of your assets have been seized so you no longer have anything left to sell.

Not only that,but ANY cash you do receive,such as gifts from friends or relatives are also seized because the government considers themselves to be number 1 when it comes to collections,so ANY cash or other asset you are given belongs to them,not you.

Yeah,there ARE people who own their homes free and clear. I'm one of them.

Doesn't mean a single damn thing because the government can seize your home to pay off back taxes,fines,or for any other reason,real OR imaginary that they can come up with.

Who is to tell them they can't,THEIR judges in THEIR courts?
Sounds like getting divorced at the end of an oil boom.

Pete, this is why I live humbly, own what I have, carry little or no debt, and have few assets in banks, not that I would not like to beef that up a bit, just that it is unlikely to happen. What I do have is extensive family, and friends all over. Hopefully, that will be enough.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: sneakypete on January 15, 2021, 07:40:04 pm
Sounds like getting divorced at the end of an oil boom.

Pete, this is why I live humbly, own what I have, carry little or no debt, and have few assets in banks, not that I would not like to beef that up a bit, just that it is unlikely to happen. What I do have is extensive family, and friends all over. Hopefully, that will be enough.

@Smokin Joe

Basically all *I* have is an attitude. Nobody can take that away from me without killing me first.

As a wise man once proclaimed,"Live free or die!"

I can only add,"take a pile of those bastards with you as you exit."

Easy for me to say,though. It will probably be 3 to 4 years at a minimum before the Bork comes completely out of the closet and goes "full Storm Trooper",and by then it is likely I will be dead,anyhow.

It is OTHER people who will have to make those hard decisions,not me. Although to be fair to myself,I made that decision over 60 years ago and have lived by it ever since. "You push me too far,regardless of who you are or who you represent,and there WILL be negative consequences for YOU personally",are,in MY humble opinion words for free men and women to live by.
Title: Re: Joe Biden pledges to defeat the NRA
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 16, 2021, 06:14:20 am
@Smokin Joe

Basically all *I* have is an attitude. Nobody can take that away from me without killing me first.

As a wise man once proclaimed,"Live free or die!"

I can only add,"take a pile of those bastards with you as you exit."

Easy for me to say,though. It will probably be 3 to 4 years at a minimum before the Bork comes completely out of the closet and goes "full Storm Trooper",and by then it is likely I will be dead,anyhow.

It is OTHER people who will have to make those hard decisions,not me. Although to be fair to myself,I made that decision over 60 years ago and have lived by it ever since. "You push me too far,regardless of who you are or who you represent,and there WILL be negative consequences for YOU personally",are,in MY humble opinion words for free men and women to live by.
More than once as a youngster, I made up my mind that I may get my as kicked, but I was going to fight. I had a few dings and my self respect when it was over, and learned that sometimes you get respect from others, even if you don't prevail. My sentiments and yours align more than not.