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Title: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:28:33 pm
I think all cable nets are covering this live...starts at 10 am central
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Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:29:14 pm
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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:30:08 pm
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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mountaineer on March 03, 2015, 03:34:02 pm
At the suggestion of a rabbi friend, Mr. M and I are supporting Israel today by sending a contribution to AFMDA (https://www.afmda.org/). Take that, Obummer!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:34:14 pm
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Benjamin Netanyahu enters the Capitol (via CNN)
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Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:36:00 pm
Sean Hannity ‏@seanhannity 2h2 hours ago

A historic day today! The Israeli Prime Minister will educate Neville Chamberlain Obama about the nature of evil in our time. Must see TV!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:38:33 pm
Roll Call ‏@rollcall 14s14 seconds ago

Overflow Crowd Expected for Netanyahu Address, Despite Boycotts
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Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 03:39:42 pm
Checking in.

Democrats are burying their head in the sand. Let's hope the oxygen is a little scarce down there.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:39:58 pm
Greta Van Susteren ‏@greta 3m3 minutes ago

Leader Pelosi in chamber pre Netanyahu



Greta Van Susteren ‏@greta 2m2 minutes ago

House Chamber is filling up....but still 20 minutes to go before PM Netanyahu
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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:42:52 pm
Rob Portman ‏@senrobportman 1h1 hour ago

Looking forward to welcoming Prime Minister Netanyahu. There should be no mixed messages about our strong strategic partnership w/ Israel.



Dana Perino ‏@DanaPerino 14h14 hours ago

History may show that the WH's political and policy miscalculations about the Bibi speech will be one of their worst
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:43:25 pm
Ted Cruz ‏@tedcruz 4h4 hours ago

Proud to stand with Prime Minister @Netanyahu, with the nation of Israel, and against a nuclear Iran!

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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:44:51 pm
Right Scoop ‏@trscoop 1m1 minute ago

REAL REASON Democrats are skipping speech: Because they don't to be on camera NOT clapping for Netanyahu
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:45:12 pm
Dinesh D'Souza ‏@DineshDSouza 40m40 minutes ago

WISHFUL THINKING: I wish we had a leader who fought for our country's interests in the way Netanyahu fights for his country's interests
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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:46:20 pm
Ben Shapiro ‏@benshapiro 3m3 minutes ago

Democratic Senators ripped Churchill for the "Iron Curtain" speech. Reporters said it would precipitate war. Some things don't change.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:47:18 pm
John Nolte ‏@NolteNC 13m13 minutes ago

As Netanyahu entered Chamber, @DanaBashCNN screamed, "Are you concerned about revealing private information." White House talking point.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:50:36 pm
RightSideNews ‏@rightsidenews 28s28 seconds ago

Valerie Jarrett: Obama Too Busy to Watch Netanyahu Speech; Cites ‘Let Girls Learn’ Initiative
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 03:51:02 pm
Dana Bash should turn in her journalism degree.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:51:15 pm
Boehner gaveling House to order ahead of Netanyahu.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 03:51:57 pm
We have seen the enemy – and he is Obama.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:55:06 pm
Rick Wilson ‏@TheRickWilson 2m2 minutes ago

Member tells me a Dem member told them Valerie Jarrett was whipping Democrats to stay away from Bibi speech. Stay classy, Val.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:56:34 pm
Chris Cillizza ‏@TheFix 3m3 minutes ago

Feels like this joint meeting of Congress is missing something. Something I like to call Joe Biden.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:56:49 pm
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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 03:58:46 pm
Philip Schuyler ‏@FiveRights 5m5 minutes ago

While the leader of the free world speaks about a nuclear Iran, Obama will be home with his hands over his ears, humming so he can't hear.
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Emmarie Huetteman ‏@ehuetteman 3m3 minutes ago

The line to enter the House chamber for Prime Minister Netanyahu's speech stretches halfway across the Capitol.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:03:47 pm
Greta Van Susteren ‏@greta 17s17 seconds ago

Sheldon Adelson in the Speaker's Box as is Former Sen Lieberman



Mike Memoli ‏@mikememoli 2m2 minutes ago

Among House Dems appointed to escort @netanyahu into chamber: Hoyer, Crowley, Engel, Lowey, Nadler, Hastings, Polis, Hahn, Sherman, Deutch
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:05:32 pm
Philip Klein ‏@philipaklein 26s26 seconds ago

Just spotted Newt+Calista sitting in same row as Adelson.
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Ken Gardner ‏@kesgardner 2m2 minutes ago

Krauthammer: Americans admire Netanyahu because they "admire leaders who stand up for their country." Do I detect a swipe at Obama here?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:06:42 pm
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Holocaust survivor & author Elie Weisel sits in the House Chamber ahead of Netanyahu's address http://cnn.it/go 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:07:42 pm
David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 4m4 minutes ago

Apart from whether Bibi will criticize Obama, Obama is directly insulting Bibi by announcing he won’t listen to his speech. Outrageous.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:08:17 pm
BiBi entering the chamber to loud applause...
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:09:26 pm
Jonathan S. Tobin ‏@TobinCommentary 12s13 seconds ago

Bibi walks into House Chamber working crowd looking like he's going to give a SOTU, 60 absent Dems notwithstanding



ericbolling ‏@ericbolling 39s40 seconds ago

Huge loud applause with standing "O" for PM Netanyahu. Members lining the walkway to shake his hand.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:09:54 pm
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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 04:10:25 pm
This, I am watching.

Last State of the Union address, I was cleaning grout.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:11:05 pm
Matt Mackowiak ‏@MattMackowiak 32s32 seconds ago

Title of Bibi speech might as well be: Why America Slept.




Charlie Spiering ‏@charliespiering 35s35 seconds ago

Sen. Reid shakes @netanyahu hand pulls him in closer for a few words. He is now applauding with most of the rest of Congress
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:12:20 pm
David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 20s21 seconds ago

I am loving this applause


Greta Van Susteren ‏@greta 1m1 minute ago

overall - warm greeting to the PM from both sides of the aisle



Jim Acosta ‏@Acosta 20s20 seconds ago

Netanyahu to Reid: "Harry it's good to see you back on your feet."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:13:12 pm
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Jim Acosta ‏@Acosta 18s19 seconds ago

Netanyahu in speech to Congress: "I deeply regret some perceive my being here as political."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:14:43 pm
"I know that my speech has been the subject of much controversy"

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Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller 1m1 minute ago

Netanyahu: “I know that no matter on which side of the aisle you sit, you stand with Israel” [ standing o]
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:15:24 pm
Notice, no telepromter
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:16:22 pm
Glenn Thrush ‏@GlennThrush 22s23 seconds ago

Now Bibi is forcing Rs to clap for Obama, which is pretty clever



Jonathan S. Tobin ‏@TobinCommentary 50s51 seconds ago

Bibi throws bouquet to #Obama for supporting #Israel. 2nd standing O.




Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream 51s52 seconds ago

Netanyahu says: We thank Pres Obama for all he's done - some of it is known, some is less well-known
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 04:16:55 pm
Bibi praised Obama. Oh, puke.....
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:17:48 pm
Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream 15s15 seconds ago

Netanyahu says: Israel is grateful to US Congress for support in so many ways - Iran Dome



Joseph Farah ‏@JosephFarah 35s36 seconds ago

Bibi is always the statesman -- almost to a fault



toddstarnes ‏@toddstarnes 4m4 minutes ago

Less than two minutes into his speech and Bibi has received more standing ovations than Obama.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:19:44 pm
John Hayward ‏@Doc_0 23s23 seconds ago

Netanyahu says Israelis protected from Hamas rockets because "this Capitol dome helped build our Iron Dome."




jimgeraghty ‏@jimgeraghty 3m3 minutes ago

Boy, this speech that's so disrespectful of the president sure has a lot of praise for the president.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 04:21:36 pm
Bibi choked on the Iranian leaders name!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:22:30 pm
"Iran's regime is not merely a Jewish problem…



Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream 15s16 seconds ago

Netanyahu says: People of Iran are talented, but they've been hijacked by religious zealots who impose on a them a dark, brutal dictatorship
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David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 23s24 seconds ago

"To fully understand the threat of the Iran regime we must understand the nature of that regime.” There you have it. Can Obama grasp this?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:23:44 pm
WND News ‏@worldnetdaily 1m1 minute ago

"America founding document promises life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Iran's promises the pursuit of jihad."



Hugh Hewitt ‏@hughhewitt 31s31 seconds ago

Recounting now Iran's long and bloody war against America both directly and through "it's global terror network"
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:24:06 pm
Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream 11s12 seconds ago

Netanyahu says: We must all stand together to stop Iran's march of terror
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Post by: ABX on March 03, 2015, 04:26:01 pm
Diane Feinstein make a comment Sunday nastily declaring that Netanyahu doesn’t speak for her. Now she is standing clapping. He is a smart man how he set this up.
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Post by: ABX on March 03, 2015, 04:26:50 pm
When it comes to Iran and ISIS, the enemy of your enemy, is your enemy.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:27:52 pm
Wall Street Journal ‏@WSJ 4s4 seconds ago

Netanyahu: “Iran’s goons in Gaza, its lackeys in Lebanon…are clutching Israel with three tentacles of terror.”



Jim Acosta ‏@Acosta 1m1 minute ago

Netanyahu in speech to Congress compares ISIS to Iran: "They just disagree over who will be the ruler of that empire."



Hugh Hewitt ‏@hughhewitt 16s17 seconds ago

"The greatest danger facing our world is the marriage of militant Islam and nuclear weapons"
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: ABX on March 03, 2015, 04:28:36 pm
Bibi praised Obama. Oh, puke.....

He played Obama and those who were going to walk out, perfectly. He made them look petty and childish. Making himself the bigger statesman.

It also sent a message, especially his comments on 'secret help' to Iran that they can't trust O to be on their side.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 04:28:48 pm
I'm sure even Khamenei is listening to this congressional address.

Democrats boycotting? Not so much.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:29:08 pm
Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 48s49 seconds ago

"When it comes to Iran and ISIS," Netanyahu warns America, "the enemy of your enemy is your enemy."
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Eye on Politics ‏@EyeOnPolitics 23s24 seconds ago

"The deal being negotiated would all but guarantee Iran gets those nuclear weapons, and lots of them."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:30:54 pm
Janie Johnson ‏@jjauthor 13s14 seconds ago

Cheney:“The speed of the terrorists' takeover in Iraq has been matched only by the speed of American decline on O’s watch.”



Patrick Dollard ‏@PatDollard 46s47 seconds ago

EXPOSED: Iran Refusing To Let U.N. Verify It Is Honoring Deal To Not Make Nukes



Eye on Politics ‏@EyeOnPolitics 23s23 seconds ago

This speech is brilliant. Americans everywhere are now wondering why their President hasn't been honest about the risk of a nuclear Iran.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:32:58 pm
TheBlazeNOW ‏@TheBlazeNOW 2m2 minutes ago

Netanyahu: Obama’s proposed deal with Iran would "all but guarantee Iran gets nuclear weapons, lots of them."



Bibi now setting up the details of the plan, careful to communicate he's not revealing secret details




Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 1m1 minute ago

"Iran not only defies inspectors, but plays a pretty good game of hide and cheat with them." - Netanyahu. "It cannot be trusted."
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Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 04:34:39 pm
Re: nuclear weapons. Obama/Kerry v Netanyahu

Who looks foolish now?
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Post by: ABX on March 03, 2015, 04:35:23 pm
Full list of the 51 Democrats boycotting the speech.
http://rightwingnews.com/democrats/the-full-list-of-51-anti-semitic-democrats-skipping-netanyahus-speech/#sthash.8bnTYyLZ.gbpl

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:36:07 pm
Dana Bash ‏@DanaBashCNN 40s40 seconds ago

@zbyronwolf it's pretty extraordinary. But actually a lot of dems told me they'd be there clap and stand to be polite. Not happy w speech



Joel Gehrke ‏@Joelmentum 7m7 minutes ago

Iran get get nukes "if the deal now being negotiated is accepted by Iran" -- Netanyahu




KenTimmerman ‏@KenTimmerman 19s19 seconds ago

Obama's "deal" with Iran "doesn't block Iran's path to the bomb; it paves Iran's path to the bomb."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 04:37:47 pm
Deep silence in chamber. Bibi has them.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:38:04 pm
Newsweek ‏@Newsweek 59s60 seconds ago

Netanyahu says the Iran deal is a bad deal. Iran "gobbling up 4 countries right now"




This deal won't be a farewell to arms, it will be a farewell to arms control.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:39:43 pm
Netanyahu - Iran must "stop its aggression against its neighbors"; "stop supporting terrorism around the world; "stop threatening" Israel



standing O for that
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:40:45 pm

David M. Drucker ‏@DavidMDrucker 22s23 seconds ago

"If Iran wants to be treated like a normal country, let it act like a normal country."




Bibi: 3 things: Stop aggression against neighbors in MiddleEast;Stop supporting terr across the world;Stop threatening to annihilate Israel
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:41:40 pm
Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream 59s60 seconds ago

Netanyahu says: If Iran wants to be treated like a normal country, let it act like a normal country.




Charles V Payne ‏@cvpayne 2m2 minutes ago Queens, NY

President Obama and 56 democrats missing an amazing speech dripping with patriotism and love of country and world- not mutually exclusive
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Post by: EC on March 03, 2015, 04:42:58 pm
BBC News US ‏@BBCNewsUS 1m1 minute ago

#NetanyahuSpeech: "If anyone thinks this deal kicks the can down the road - think again." http://bbc.in/1AVCs2P 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:42:59 pm
John Schindler ‏@20committee 5m5 minutes ago

WH will have a tough time convincing Americans who aren't Obots or Israel-haters that Bibi hasn't made some solid points re Iranian nukes.




David M. Drucker ‏@DavidMDrucker 36s36 seconds ago

"If Iran threatens to walk away from the table…Call their bluff."




Patrick Dollard ‏@PatDollard 1m1 minute ago

EXPOSED: Iran Refusing To Let U.N. Verify It Is Honoring Deal To Not Make Nukes http://
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: ArneFufkin on March 03, 2015, 04:43:21 pm
This has the feel of a historic moment.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:44:12 pm
Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 15s16 seconds ago

If Iran walks about from the negotiations, Netanyahu urges US and allies to "call their bluff." Says Iran will return.





The alternative to this bad deal is not war. The alternative to this bad deal is a much better deal.
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Post by: ABX on March 03, 2015, 04:45:30 pm
lol

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Just now ·

I never thought of myself as a homosexual, but I'm seriously beginning to "have feelings" for ‪#‎Netanyahu‬ ...such a ‪#‎BADASS‬ ‪#‎NetanyahuSpeech‬
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:47:26 pm
Jeffrey Goldberg ‏@JeffreyGoldberg 2m2 minutes ago

The real target of this speech is Obama (and Kerry and Wendy Sherman), not Iran.



Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: ArneFufkin on March 03, 2015, 04:48:25 pm
The ManChild in Chief has to be seething in his "situation room".
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Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 04:49:59 pm
The ManChild in Chief has to be seething in his "situation room".

It's a good day for the adults in congress...
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: ArneFufkin on March 03, 2015, 04:50:06 pm
Jeffrey Goldberg ‏@JeffreyGoldberg 2m2 minutes ago

The real target of this speech is Obama (and Kerry and Wendy Sherman), not Iran.

I would say that there is a constituency in Israel that is glued to this as well.  This was televised at 6 p.m. TelAviv time.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:50:59 pm
Chris Cillizza ‏@TheFix 24s25 seconds ago

RT @BresPolitico: Netanyahu: "The days when the Jewish people remain passive in the face of genocidal enemies, those days are over!"
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Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 2m2 minutes ago

Acknowledging Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel in the House gallery, Netanyahu urges world leaders not to repeat the mistakes of the past.




Newsweek ‏@Newsweek 24s24 seconds ago

"Even if Israel has to stand alone, Israel will stand!"

I know that Israel does not stand alone. The American people stand with Israel.
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Post by: musiclady on March 03, 2015, 04:51:41 pm
It's a good day for the adults in congress...

Amen and AMEN!!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:52:42 pm
John Sexton ‏@verumserum 14s14 seconds ago

Churchill responds to Chamberlain.



Netanyahu- May God bless Israel and may God bless the United State of America
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 04:53:12 pm
Wonderful speech. Wonderful wonderful wonderful!!!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:54:23 pm
Netanyahu ends quoting Moses: "Be strong and resolute. Neither fear nor dread them."



Ben Howe ‏@BenHowe 48s48 seconds ago

That was the best speech given in that chamber in, oh, about 6 years



Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller 1m1 minute ago

Bibi soaking it in: "You’re wonderful. Thank you America"



Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: flowers on March 03, 2015, 04:55:29 pm
Did you hear the cheers for him????
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:56:14 pm
Ken Gardner ‏@kesgardner 36s37 seconds ago

Krauthammer: two takeaways: (1) Israel can't live with the sunset clause of the deal; (2) if Israel must act alone, it will act alone.




ConstitutionENFORCER ‏@JOEBANNAS 3m3 minutes ago

BIBI GET MORE STANDING OVATIONS IN ONE SPEECH THAN O DID HIS WHOLE PRESIDENCY .BIBI BIBI BIBI NO NUKES FOR IRAN , WAKE UP PEOPLE
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 04:57:59 pm
John Hayward ‏@Doc_0 1m1 minute ago

Obama's State of the Union was a stupid spending wish list plus political cheap shots. Netanyahu just delivered the State of the World.



Pat Roberts ‏@SenPatRoberts 16s17 seconds ago

Extraordinary speech by Prime Minister Netanyahu.




jeremiah jacques ‏@js_jacques 13h13 hours ago Oklahoma, USA

7 People Mr. Obama Agreed to Meet With (Not Named Netanyahu) GloZell Green Katy Perry Zach Galifianakis Clooney Beyoncé Jay Z Kid President
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Post by: Luis Gonzalez on March 03, 2015, 04:58:36 pm
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Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: flowers on March 03, 2015, 05:00:07 pm
You wanna bet when he said that Moses comment, valjar/bammy had no idea it was even on the wall?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 05:01:02 pm
Netanyahu is a pretty forceful speaker.

But I still can't get over how Netanyahu just happened to choke at the moment he said the name "Khamenei."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: musiclady on March 03, 2015, 05:01:29 pm
I loved the reference to Esther, and the Persians who wanted to annihilate the Jews then.

Didn't work.  God's chosen people had a leader born for 'such an hour as this.'

I believe that is true today, as well.

Great, GREAT speech!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: GourmetDan on March 03, 2015, 05:03:24 pm
Ken Gardner ‏@kesgardner 36s37 seconds ago

Krauthammer: two takeaways: (1) Israel can't live with the sunset clause of the deal; (2) if Israel must act alone, it will act alone.

ConstitutionENFORCER ‏@JOEBANNAS 3m3 minutes ago

BIBI GET MORE STANDING OVATIONS IN ONE SPEECH THAN O DID HIS WHOLE PRESIDENCY .BIBI BIBI BIBI NO NUKES FOR IRAN , WAKE UP PEOPLE

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World.  The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other."

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: flowers on March 03, 2015, 05:04:11 pm
White House heads exploding asking...how the hell did Moses get in that chamber.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 05:06:03 pm
Now let's see how the state controlled media butchers this speech in tonight's news reports to the ignorant masses.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 05:06:40 pm
I only caught snippets of the speech (in the office).  Did Netanyahu lay out an alternative to the deal he opposes?  If so, what is it?  Thanks.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: alicewonders on March 03, 2015, 05:07:31 pm
You wanna bet when he said that Moses comment, valjar/bammy had no idea it was even on the wall?

I had that exact same thought!

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: EC on March 03, 2015, 05:09:46 pm
Full text, worth preserving:

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NETANYAHU: Thank you.

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you...

(APPLAUSE)

... Speaker of the House John Boehner, President Pro Tem Senator Orrin Hatch, Senator Minority -- Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, and House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy.

I also want to acknowledge Senator, Democratic Leader Harry Reid. Harry, it's good to see you back on your feet.

(APPLAUSE)

I guess it's true what they say, you can't keep a good man down.

(LAUGHTER)

My friends, I'm deeply humbled by the opportunity to speak for a third time before the most important legislative body in the world, the U.S. Congress.

(APPLAUSE)

I want to thank you all for being here today. I know that my speech has been the subject of much controversy. I deeply regret that some perceive my being here as political. That was never my intention.

I want to thank you, Democrats and Republicans, for your common support for Israel, year after year, decade after decade.

(APPLAUSE)

I know that no matter on which side of the aisle you sit, you stand with Israel.

(APPLAUSE)

The remarkable alliance between Israel and the United States has always been above politics. It must always remain above politics.

(APPLAUSE)

Because America and Israel, we share a common destiny, the destiny of promised lands that cherish freedom and offer hope. Israel is grateful for the support of American -- of America's people and of America's presidents, from Harry Truman to Barack Obama.

(APPLAUSE)

We appreciate all that President Obama has done for Israel.

Now, some of that is widely known.

(APPLAUSE)

Some of that is widely known, like strengthening security cooperation and intelligence sharing, opposing anti-Israel resolutions at the U.N.

Some of what the president has done for Israel is less well- known.

I called him in 2010 when we had the Carmel forest fire, and he immediately agreed to respond to my request for urgent aid.

In 2011, we had our embassy in Cairo under siege, and again, he provided vital assistance at the crucial moment.

Or his support for more missile interceptors during our operation last summer when we took on Hamas terrorists.

(APPLAUSE)

In each of those moments, I called the president, and he was there.

And some of what the president has done for Israel might never be known, because it touches on some of the most sensitive and strategic issues that arise between an American president and an Israeli prime minister.

But I know it, and I will always be grateful to President Obama for that support.

(APPLAUSE)

And Israel is grateful to you, the American Congress, for your support, for supporting us in so many ways, especially in generous military assistance and missile defense, including Iron Dome.

(APPLAUSE)

Last summer, millions of Israelis were protected from thousands of Hamas rockets because this capital dome helped build our Iron Dome.

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you, America. Thank you for everything you've done for Israel.

My friends, I've come here today because, as prime minister of Israel, I feel a profound obligation to speak to you about an issue that could well threaten the survival of my country and the future of my people: Iran's quest for nuclear weapons.

We're an ancient people. In our nearly 4,000 years of history, many have tried repeatedly to destroy the Jewish people. Tomorrow night, on the Jewish holiday of Purim, we'll read the Book of Esther. We'll read of a powerful Persian viceroy named Haman, who plotted to destroy the Jewish people some 2,500 years ago. But a courageous Jewish woman, Queen Esther, exposed the plot and gave for the Jewish people the right to defend themselves against their enemies.

The plot was foiled. Our people were saved.

(APPLAUSE)

Today the Jewish people face another attempt by yet another Persian potentate to destroy us. Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei spews the oldest hatred, the oldest hatred of anti-Semitism with the newest technology. He tweets that Israel must be annihilated -- he tweets. You know, in Iran, there isn't exactly free Internet. But he tweets in English that Israel must be destroyed.

For those who believe that Iran threatens the Jewish state, but not the Jewish people, listen to Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, Iran's chief terrorist proxy. He said: If all the Jews gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of chasing them down around the world.

But Iran's regime is not merely a Jewish problem, any more than the Nazi regime was merely a Jewish problem. The 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis were but a fraction of the 60 million people killed in World War II. So, too, Iran's regime poses a grave threat, not only to Israel, but also the peace of the entire world. To understand just how dangerous Iran would be with nuclear weapons, we must fully understand the nature of the regime.

The people of Iran are very talented people. They're heirs to one of the world's great civilizations. But in 1979, they were hijacked by religious zealots -- religious zealots who imposed on them immediately a dark and brutal dictatorship.

That year, the zealots drafted a constitution, a new one for Iran. It directed the revolutionary guards not only to protect Iran's borders, but also to fulfill the ideological mission of jihad. The regime's founder, Ayatollah Khomeini, exhorted his followers to "export the revolution throughout the world."

I'm standing here in Washington, D.C. and the difference is so stark. America's founding document promises life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Iran's founding document pledges death, tyranny, and the pursuit of jihad. And as states are collapsing across the Middle East, Iran is charging into the void to do just that.

Iran's goons in Gaza, its lackeys in Lebanon, its revolutionary guards on the Golan Heights are clutching Israel with three tentacles of terror. Backed by Iran, Assad is slaughtering Syrians. Back by Iran, Shiite militias are rampaging through Iraq. Back by Iran, Houthis are seizing control of Yemen, threatening the strategic straits at the mouth of the Red Sea. Along with the Straits of Hormuz, that would give Iran a second choke-point on the world's oil supply.

Just last week, near Hormuz, Iran carried out a military exercise blowing up a mock U.S. aircraft carrier. That's just last week, while they're having nuclear talks with the United States. But unfortunately, for the last 36 years, Iran's attacks against the United States have been anything but mock. And the targets have been all too real.

Iran took dozens of Americans hostage in Tehran, murdered hundreds of American soldiers, Marines, in Beirut, and was responsible for killing and maiming thousands of American service men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Beyond the Middle East, Iran attacks America and its allies through its global terror network. It blew up the Jewish community center and the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires. It helped Al Qaida bomb U.S. embassies in Africa. It even attempted to assassinate the Saudi ambassador, right here in Washington, D.C.

In the Middle East, Iran now dominates four Arab capitals, Baghdad, Damascus, Beirut and Sanaa. And if Iran's aggression is left unchecked, more will surely follow.

So, at a time when many hope that Iran will join the community of nations, Iran is busy gobbling up the nations.

(APPLAUSE)

We must all stand together to stop Iran's march of conquest, subjugation and terror.

(APPLAUSE)

Now, two years ago, we were told to give President Rouhani and Foreign Minister Zarif a chance to bring change and moderation to Iran. Some change! Some moderation!

Rouhani's government hangs gays, persecutes Christians, jails journalists and executes even more prisoners than before.

Last year, the same Zarif who charms Western diplomats laid a wreath at the grave of Imad Mughniyeh. Imad Mughniyeh is the terrorist mastermind who spilled more American blood than any other terrorist besides Osama bin Laden. I'd like to see someone ask him a question about that.

Iran's regime is as radical as ever, its cries of "Death to America," that same America that it calls the "Great Satan," as loud as ever.

Now, this shouldn't be surprising, because the ideology of Iran's revolutionary regime is deeply rooted in militant Islam, and that's why this regime will always be an enemy of America.

Don't be fooled. The battle between Iran and ISIS doesn't turn Iran into a friend of America.

Iran and ISIS are competing for the crown of militant Islam. One calls itself the Islamic Republic. The other calls itself the Islamic State. Both want to impose a militant Islamic empire first on the region and then on the entire world. They just disagree among themselves who will be the ruler of that empire.

In this deadly game of thrones, there's no place for America or for Israel, no peace for Christians, Jews or Muslims who don't share the Islamist medieval creed, no rights for women, no freedom for anyone.

So when it comes to Iran and ISIS, the enemy of your enemy is your enemy.

(APPLAUSE)

The difference is that ISIS is armed with butcher knives, captured weapons and YouTube, whereas Iran could soon be armed with intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear bombs. We must always remember -- I'll say it one more time -- the greatest dangers facing our world is the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons. To defeat ISIS and let Iran get nuclear weapons would be to win the battle, but lose the war. We can't let that happen.

(APPLAUSE)

But that, my friends, is exactly what could happen, if the deal now being negotiated is accepted by Iran. That deal will not prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons. It would all but guarantee that Iran gets those weapons, lots of them.

Let me explain why. While the final deal has not yet been signed, certain elements of any potential deal are now a matter of public record. You don't need intelligence agencies and secret information to know this. You can Google it.

Absent a dramatic change, we know for sure that any deal with Iran will include two major concessions to Iran.

The first major concession would leave Iran with a vast nuclear infrastructure, providing it with a short break-out time to the bomb. Break-out time is the time it takes to amass enough weapons-grade uranium or plutonium for a nuclear bomb.

According to the deal, not a single nuclear facility would be demolished. Thousands of centrifuges used to enrich uranium would be left spinning. Thousands more would be temporarily disconnected, but not destroyed.

Because Iran's nuclear program would be left largely intact, Iran's break-out time would be very short -- about a year by U.S. assessment, even shorter by Israel's.

And if -- if Iran's work on advanced centrifuges, faster and faster centrifuges, is not stopped, that break-out time could still be shorter, a lot shorter.

True, certain restrictions would be imposed on Iran's nuclear program and Iran's adherence to those restrictions would be supervised by international inspectors. But here's the problem. You see, inspectors document violations; they don't stop them.

Inspectors knew when North Korea broke to the bomb, but that didn't stop anything. North Korea turned off the cameras, kicked out the inspectors. Within a few years, it got the bomb.

Now, we're warned that within five years North Korea could have an arsenal of 100 nuclear bombs.

Like North Korea, Iran, too, has defied international inspectors. It's done that on at least three separate occasions -- 2005, 2006, 2010. Like North Korea, Iran broke the locks, shut off the cameras.

Now, I know this is not gonna come a shock -- as a shock to any of you, but Iran not only defies inspectors, it also plays a pretty good game of hide-and-cheat with them.

The U.N.'s nuclear watchdog agency, the IAEA, said again yesterday that Iran still refuses to come clean about its military nuclear program. Iran was also caught -- caught twice, not once, twice -- operating secret nuclear facilities in Natanz and Qom, facilities that inspectors didn't even know existed.

Right now, Iran could be hiding nuclear facilities that we don't know about, the U.S. and Israel. As the former head of inspections for the IAEA said in 2013, he said, "If there's no undeclared installation today in Iran, it will be the first time in 20 years that it doesn't have one." Iran has proven time and again that it cannot be trusted. And that's why the first major concession is a source of great concern. It leaves Iran with a vast nuclear infrastructure and relies on inspectors to prevent a breakout. That concession creates a real danger that Iran could get to the bomb by violating the deal.

But the second major concession creates an even greater danger that Iran could get to the bomb by keeping the deal. Because virtually all the restrictions on Iran's nuclear program will automatically expire in about a decade.

Now, a decade may seem like a long time in political life, but it's the blink of an eye in the life of a nation. It's a blink of an eye in the life of our children. We all have a responsibility to consider what will happen when Iran's nuclear capabilities are virtually unrestricted and all the sanctions will have been lifted. Iran would then be free to build a huge nuclear capacity that could product many, many nuclear bombs.

Iran's Supreme Leader says that openly. He says, Iran plans to have 190,000 centrifuges, not 6,000 or even the 19,000 that Iran has today, but 10 times that amount -- 190,000 centrifuges enriching uranium. With this massive capacity, Iran could make the fuel for an entire nuclear arsenal and this in a matter of weeks, once it makes that decision.

My long-time friend, John Kerry, Secretary of State, confirmed last week that Iran could legitimately possess that massive centrifuge capacity when the deal expires.

Now I want you to think about that. The foremost sponsor of global terrorism could be weeks away from having enough enriched uranium for an entire arsenal of nuclear weapons and this with full international legitimacy.

And by the way, if Iran's Intercontinental Ballistic Missile program is not part of the deal, and so far, Iran refuses to even put it on the negotiating table. Well, Iran could have the means to deliver that nuclear arsenal to the far-reach corners of the earth, including to every part of the United States.

So you see, my friends, this deal has two major concessions: one, leaving Iran with a vast nuclear program and two, lifting the restrictions on that program in about a decade. That's why this deal is so bad. It doesn't block Iran's path to the bomb; it paves Iran's path to the bomb.

So why would anyone make this deal? Because they hope that Iran will change for the better in the coming years, or they believe that the alternative to this deal is worse?

Well, I disagree. I don't believe that Iran's radical regime will change for the better after this deal. This regime has been in power for 36 years, and its voracious appetite for aggression grows with each passing year. This deal would wet appetite -- would only wet Iran's appetite for more.

Would Iran be less aggressive when sanctions are removed and its economy is stronger? If Iran is gobbling up four countries right now while it's under sanctions, how many more countries will Iran devour when sanctions are lifted? Would Iran fund less terrorism when it has mountains of cash with which to fund more terrorism?

Why should Iran's radical regime change for the better when it can enjoy the best of both world's: aggression abroad, prosperity at home?

This is a question that everyone asks in our region. Israel's neighbors -- Iran's neighbors know that Iran will become even more aggressive and sponsor even more terrorism when its economy is unshackled and it's been given a clear path to the bomb.

And many of these neighbors say they'll respond by racing to get nuclear weapons of their own. So this deal won't change Iran for the better; it will only change the Middle East for the worse. A deal that's supposed to prevent nuclear proliferation would instead spark a nuclear arms race in the most dangerous part of the planet.

This deal won't be a farewell to arms. It would be a farewell to arms control. And the Middle East would soon be crisscrossed by nuclear tripwires. A region where small skirmishes can trigger big wars would turn into a nuclear tinderbox.

If anyone thinks -- if anyone thinks this deal kicks the can down the road, think again. When we get down that road, we'll face a much more dangerous Iran, a Middle East littered with nuclear bombs and a countdown to a potential nuclear nightmare.

Ladies and gentlemen, I've come here today to tell you we don't have to bet the security of the world on the hope that Iran will change for the better. We don't have to gamble with our future and with our children's future.

We can insist that restrictions on Iran's nuclear program not be lifted for as long as Iran continues its aggression in the region and in the world.

(APPLAUSE)

Before lifting those restrictions, the world should demand that Iran do three things. First, stop its aggression against its neighbors in the Middle East. Second...

(APPLAUSE)

Second, stop supporting terrorism around the world.

(APPLAUSE)

And third, stop threatening to annihilate my country, Israel, the one and only Jewish state.

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you.

If the world powers are not prepared to insist that Iran change its behavior before a deal is signed, at the very least they should insist that Iran change its behavior before a deal expires.

(APPLAUSE)

If Iran changes its behavior, the restrictions would be lifted. If Iran doesn't change its behavior, the restrictions should not be lifted.

(APPLAUSE)

If Iran wants to be treated like a normal country, let it act like a normal country.

(APPLAUSE)

My friends, what about the argument that there's no alternative to this deal, that Iran's nuclear know-how cannot be erased, that its nuclear program is so advanced that the best we can do is delay the inevitable, which is essentially what the proposed deal seeks to do?

Well, nuclear know-how without nuclear infrastructure doesn't get you very much. A racecar driver without a car can't drive. A pilot without a plan can't fly. Without thousands of centrifuges, tons of enriched uranium or heavy water facilities, Iran can't make nuclear weapons.

(APPLAUSE)

Iran's nuclear program can be rolled back well-beyond the current proposal by insisting on a better deal and keeping up the pressure on a very vulnerable regime, especially given the recent collapse in the price of oil.

(APPLAUSE)

Now, if Iran threatens to walk away from the table -- and this often happens in a Persian bazaar -- call their bluff. They'll be back, because they need the deal a lot more than you do.

(APPLAUSE)

And by maintaining the pressure on Iran and on those who do business with Iran, you have the power to make them need it even more.

My friends, for over a year, we've been told that no deal is better than a bad deal. Well, this is a bad deal. It's a very bad deal. We're better off without it.

(APPLAUSE)

Now we're being told that the only alternative to this bad deal is war. That's just not true.

The alternative to this bad deal is a much better deal.

(APPLAUSE)

A better deal that doesn't leave Iran with a vast nuclear infrastructure and such a short break-out time. A better deal that keeps the restrictions on Iran's nuclear program in place until Iran's aggression ends.

(APPLAUSE)

A better deal that won't give Iran an easy path to the bomb. A better deal that Israel and its neighbors may not like, but with which we could live, literally. And no country...

(APPLAUSE)

... no country has a greater stake -- no country has a greater stake than Israel in a good deal that peacefully removes this threat.

Ladies and gentlemen, history has placed us at a fateful crossroads. We must now choose between two paths. One path leads to a bad deal that will at best curtail Iran's nuclear ambitions for a while, but it will inexorably lead to a nuclear-armed Iran whose unbridled aggression will inevitably lead to war.

The second path, however difficult, could lead to a much better deal, that would prevent a nuclear-armed Iran, a nuclearized Middle East and the horrific consequences of both to all of humanity.

You don't have to read Robert Frost to know. You have to live life to know that the difficult path is usually the one less traveled, but it will make all the difference for the future of my country, the security of the Middle East and the peace of the world, the peace, we all desire.

(APPLAUSE)

My friend, standing up to Iran is not easy. Standing up to dark and murderous regimes never is. With us today is Holocaust survivor and Nobel Prize winner Elie Wiesel.

(APPLAUSE)

Elie, your life and work inspires to give meaning to the words, "never again."

(APPLAUSE)

And I wish I could promise you, Elie, that the lessons of history have been learned. I can only urge the leaders of the world not to repeat the mistakes of the past.

(APPLAUSE)

Not to sacrifice the future for the present; not to ignore aggression in the hopes of gaining an illusory peace.

But I can guarantee you this, the days when the Jewish people remained passive in the face of genocidal enemies, those days are over.

(APPLAUSE)

We are no longer scattered among the nations, powerless to defend ourselves. We restored our sovereignty in our ancient home. And the soldiers who defend our home have boundless courage. For the first time in 100 generations, we, the Jewish people, can defend ourselves.

(APPLAUSE)

This is why -- this is why, as a prime minister of Israel, I can promise you one more thing: Even if Israel has to stand alone, Israel will stand.

(APPLAUSE)

But I know that Israel does not stand alone. I know that America stands with Israel.

(APPLAUSE)

I know that you stand with Israel.

(APPLAUSE)

You stand with Israel, because you know that the story of Israel is not only the story of the Jewish people but of the human spirit that refuses again and again to succumb to history's horrors.

(APPLAUSE)

Facing me right up there in the gallery, overlooking all of us in this (inaudible) chamber is the image of Moses. Moses led our people from slavery to the gates of the Promised Land.

And before the people of Israel entered the land of Israel, Moses gave us a message that has steeled our resolve for thousands of years. I leave you with his message today, (SPEAKING IN HEBREW), "Be strong and resolute, neither fear nor dread them."

My friends, may Israel and America always stand together, strong and resolute. May we neither fear nor dread the challenges ahead. May we face the future with confidence, strength and hope.

May God bless the state of Israel and may God bless the United States of America.

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you all.

You're wonderful.

Thank you, America. Thank you.

Thank you.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/03/03/full-text-netanyahus-address-to-congress/
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: alicewonders on March 03, 2015, 05:11:31 pm
Full text, worth preserving:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/03/03/full-text-netanyahus-address-to-congress/

Thanks for that EC.

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 03, 2015, 05:14:12 pm
I just posted this on FB.  No words.  Just this.

(http://media.renewmag.se/2013/01/israel-flag.jpg)
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 05:14:26 pm
Joe Walsh ‏@WalshFreedom 4m4 minutes ago

Closing my eyes, listening, imagining Bibi as our President. Hell, at this point I'd just like our country to have a President.



John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz 44s45 seconds ago Manhattan, NY

It was "a Strangelovian speech," says Christiane Amanpour, turning herself into a buffoon
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: EC on March 03, 2015, 05:14:32 pm
My pleasure!  :beer:

The Jerusalem Post retweeted
Michael Wilner ‏@mawilner 22s23 seconds ago Washington, DC

Former speaker @newtgingrich tells me he believes Netanyahu just consolidated Congress against the current deal.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 03, 2015, 05:17:13 pm
THAT is inspirational leadership.  THAT is what we yearn for. 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 05:18:19 pm
Olivier Knox ‏@OKnox 3m3 minutes ago

Fun watching Netanyahu praise Reid, the guy who blocked Senate votes in the last few years on new Iran sanctions
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 05:19:42 pm
Rush's monologue on the speech is equally brilliant to Netanyahu's.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: musiclady on March 03, 2015, 05:22:03 pm
Rush's monologue on the speech is equally brilliant to Netanyahu's.

Ahhhh.....I forgot about Rush! Watching "Outnumbered" with Steven Hayes has been interesting, though.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: alicewonders on March 03, 2015, 05:22:49 pm
Rush's monologue on the speech is equally brilliant to Netanyahu's.

True!

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 05:23:43 pm
David Axelrod ‏@davidaxelrod 13m13 minutes ago Chicago, IL

Speech broke no new ground nor offered realistic path short of war. But apocalyptic language & GOP cheerleading tailor-made for his base.



Glenn Thrush ‏@GlennThrush 8m8 minutes ago

Seemed like the Rs didn't want Bibi to leave the podium... Like if he just stayed up there long enough he'd somehow become THEIR president..
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 05:25:34 pm
No surprise here...still keeping the American people in the dark

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/broadcast-networks-dont-carry-israeli-778858 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/broadcast-networks-dont-carry-israeli-778858)

Broadcast Networks Don't Carry Israeli Prime Minister's Address to Congress
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: musiclady on March 03, 2015, 05:26:15 pm

Glenn Thrush ‏@GlennThrush 8m8 minutes ago

Seemed like the Rs didn't want Bibi to leave the podium... Like if he just stayed up there long enough he'd somehow become THEIR president..

Oh, I hear you, Glenn!  I hear you!!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mountaineer on March 03, 2015, 05:26:46 pm
David Axelrod ‏@davidaxelrod 13m13 minutes ago Chicago, IL

Speech broke no new ground nor offered realistic path short of war. But apocalyptic language & GOP cheerleading tailor-made for his base.
May God forgive me for what I'd like to say to Mr. Axelrod at this moment.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 03, 2015, 05:27:13 pm
David Axelrod ‏@davidaxelrod 13m13 minutes ago Chicago, IL

Speech broke no new ground nor offered realistic path short of war. But apocalyptic language & GOP cheerleading tailor-made for his base.


Filthy prostitute; Axelrod.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: musiclady on March 03, 2015, 05:30:13 pm
Filthy prostitute; Axelrod.

Perfect description.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Bigun on March 03, 2015, 05:33:31 pm
Wonderful speech. Wonderful wonderful wonderful!!!

Yes indeed! I'm very glad to hear Bibi repeating what has been said many times previously right here on this forum! His words carry much more weight!

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Millee on March 03, 2015, 05:34:21 pm
Was refreshing to hear a leader and real man speak.   ^-^
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: musiclady on March 03, 2015, 05:36:15 pm
Yes indeed! I'm very glad to hear Bibi repeating what has been said many times previously right here on this forum! His words carry much more weight!

I noticed that I had heard the same words from someone........ ahem......... before.  :beer:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Bigun on March 03, 2015, 05:36:55 pm
Now let's see how the state controlled media butchers this speech in tonight's news reports to the ignorant masses.

The state controlled media didn't even carry the speech.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/broadcast-networks-dont-carry-israeli-778858 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/broadcast-networks-dont-carry-israeli-778858)
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 05:43:58 pm
Eye on Politics ‏@EyeOnPolitics 2m2 minutes ago

Panicked Democrats bashing Netanyahu on TV now. Is this the White House's way of responding?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 05:44:02 pm
Bibi on praising Obama: "at those moments when I called Pres. Obama, he was there...taking my call on the 18th green"
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 05:45:15 pm
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234445-pelosi-near-tears-at-bibi-insult (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234445-pelosi-near-tears-at-bibi-insult)

Pelosi 'near tears' at Bibi 'insult'

By Mike Lillis - 03/03/15 12:38 PM EST
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) hammered Benjamin Netanyahu Tuesday, saying the Israeli prime minister's speech to Congress was an "insult" to the country.

“The unbreakable bonds between the United States and Israel are rooted in our shared values, our common ideals and mutual interests," Pelosi said in a statement just after the speech.

“That is why, as one who values the U.S. — Israel relationship, and loves Israel, I was near tears throughout the Prime Minister’s speech — saddened by the insult to the intelligence of the United States as part of the P5 +1 nations, and saddened by the condescension toward our knowledge of the threat posed by Iran and our broader commitment to preventing nuclear proliferation."




WTF is she talking about!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Bigun on March 03, 2015, 05:47:25 pm
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234445-pelosi-near-tears-at-bibi-insult (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234445-pelosi-near-tears-at-bibi-insult)

Pelosi 'near tears' at Bibi 'insult'

By Mike Lillis - 03/03/15 12:38 PM EST
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) hammered Benjamin Netanyahu Tuesday, saying the Israeli prime minister's speech to Congress was an "insult" to the country.

“The unbreakable bonds between the United States and Israel are rooted in our shared values, our common ideals and mutual interests," Pelosi said in a statement just after the speech.

“That is why, as one who values the U.S. — Israel relationship, and loves Israel, I was near tears throughout the Prime Minister’s speech — saddened by the insult to the intelligence of the United States as part of the P5 +1 nations, and saddened by the condescension toward our knowledge of the threat posed by Iran and our broader commitment to preventing nuclear proliferation."




WTF is she talking about!

She knows that they have just had their asses kicked by a professional and doesn't like it one bit!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: flowers on March 03, 2015, 05:51:10 pm
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234445-pelosi-near-tears-at-bibi-insult (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234445-pelosi-near-tears-at-bibi-insult)

Pelosi 'near tears' at Bibi 'insult'

By Mike Lillis - 03/03/15 12:38 PM EST
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) hammered Benjamin Netanyahu Tuesday, saying the Israeli prime minister's speech to Congress was an "insult" to the country.

“The unbreakable bonds between the United States and Israel are rooted in our shared values, our common ideals and mutual interests," Pelosi said in a statement just after the speech.

“That is why, as one who values the U.S. — Israel relationship, and loves Israel, I was near tears throughout the Prime Minister’s speech — saddened by the insult to the intelligence of the United States as part of the P5 +1 nations, and saddened by the condescension toward our knowledge of the threat posed by Iran and our broader commitment to preventing nuclear proliferation."




WTF is she talking about!
Geez, I am almost in tears and some days in tears with you and your ilk.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 05:52:14 pm
Pel0si: 0bama acknowledges "the threat posed by Iran and our broader commitment to preventing nuclear proliferation"

Who knew?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 03, 2015, 05:52:41 pm
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234445-pelosi-near-tears-at-bibi-insult (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234445-pelosi-near-tears-at-bibi-insult)

Pelosi 'near tears' at Bibi 'insult'

By Mike Lillis - 03/03/15 12:38 PM EST
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) hammered Benjamin Netanyahu Tuesday, saying the Israeli prime minister's speech to Congress was an "insult" to the country.

“The unbreakable bonds between the United States and Israel are rooted in our shared values, our common ideals and mutual interests," Pelosi said in a statement just after the speech.

“That is why, as one who values the U.S. — Israel relationship, and loves Israel, I was near tears throughout the Prime Minister’s speech — saddened by the insult to the intelligence of the United States as part of the P5 +1 nations, and saddened by the condescension toward our knowledge of the threat posed by Iran and our broader commitment to preventing nuclear proliferation."




WTF is she talking about!

Stammering with no cogent thought. 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 05:53:06 pm
Breitbart

12:45 p.m. EST: The boycotting Democrats are staging their own press conference. The news networks are ignoring them, which is really striking–except for Fox News, which is ripping the boycotters. The purpose of the conference appears to be to defend President Obama and to undermine Prime Minister Netanyahu. Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) rips Netanyahu for his testimony in 2002 in favor of the Iraq war. She makes the mistake of slamming his prediction that Iranians would rise up against their government (which actually happened). She then loses herself in her prepared text.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 05:54:15 pm
White House sends out virulent attack dogs to smear Netanyahu.

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 05:59:05 pm
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/wow-democrats-lash-out-at-netanyahu-tell-him-to-go-home-call-him-a-child/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/wow-democrats-lash-out-at-netanyahu-tell-him-to-go-home-call-him-a-child/)

Wow! Democrats LASH OUT at Netanyahu, Tell Him to Go Home, Call Him “a Child”
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: flowers on March 03, 2015, 06:00:00 pm
White House sends out virulent attack dogs to smear Netanyahu.
What was the whitehouse unofficial statement? What is the gist of the statements?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: ABX on March 03, 2015, 06:01:34 pm
ABC stating 'it was a speech that wasn't supposed to be political, but was from the start....' and focusing on Boehner not asking O's permission.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: flowers on March 03, 2015, 06:03:51 pm
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/wow-democrats-lash-out-at-netanyahu-tell-him-to-go-home-call-him-a-child/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/wow-democrats-lash-out-at-netanyahu-tell-him-to-go-home-call-him-a-child/)

Wow! Democrats LASH OUT at Netanyahu, Tell Him to Go Home, Call Him “a Child”
It NEVER fails. For YEARS they have always blame the something with the description that they are doing. They ALWAYS use the words that is the thing they are doing.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 06:06:07 pm
ABC stating 'it was a speech that wasn't supposed to be political, but was from the start....' and focusing on Boehner not asking O's permission.

This was all pre-planned..they all had their talking points down pat....and the MSM did their part in not televising it so they could jusde for themselves on what was said..instead the nightly news will feed the low-info voters the WH talking points....
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 06:06:57 pm
I only caught snippets of the speech (in the office).  Did Netanyahu lay out an alternative to the deal he opposes?  If so, what is it?  Thanks.

Just watched the speech in full.  Nothing new.  Same rhetoric.  No plan other than the status quo. 

But the speech was certainly well delivered.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 06:07:17 pm
1:00 p.m. EST: The boycotting Democrats who are slamming Netanyahu and Boehner appear to have been very poorly briefed. Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) said that he disagreed with Netanyahu: “I do not trust war is the best way to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons.” Netanyahu spent his speech arguing for a better deal, not for war. Later, Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-OR) claims that the U.S. and Iran have been cooperating for a century. Most of the other comments are petty and tangential. The networks are likely avoiding this event to spare Democrats some severe embarrassment.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Bigun on March 03, 2015, 06:11:00 pm
Quote
Did Netanyahu lay out an alternative to the deal he opposes?  If so, what is it?  Thanks.

Of course he did! NO deal at all is better than THIS deal but even better would be a MUCH better deal!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 03, 2015, 06:11:55 pm
The Left is soiling themselves but they had to know it was coming.  It HAD to be what they feared would be delivered. 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 03, 2015, 06:19:12 pm
Just watched the speech in full.  Nothing new.  Same rhetoric.  No plan other than the status quo. 

But the speech was certainly well delivered.

I am mystified by that sentiment.  I have heard it from several sources, mostly the Left.  But, what has changed exactly?  The centrifuges continue to spin while our President works on his golf handicap.  He is the one playing parlor game semantics with his acolytes and useful widgets on the Left. 

Point: Israel has an existential threat.
Point: Israel will go it alone if necessary.
Point: Current path is unacceptable, and the time is short to change course.

That's it.  What were you expecting?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 06:20:33 pm
Still looking for the official WH response...if you find it post it.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: xfreeper on March 03, 2015, 06:23:10 pm
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234445-pelosi-near-tears-at-bibi-insult (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234445-pelosi-near-tears-at-bibi-insult)

Pelosi 'near tears' at Bibi 'insult'

By Mike Lillis - 03/03/15 12:38 PM EST
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) hammered Benjamin Netanyahu Tuesday, saying the Israeli prime minister's speech to Congress was an "insult" to the country.

“The unbreakable bonds between the United States and Israel are rooted in our shared values, our common ideals and mutual interests," Pelosi said in a statement just after the speech.

“That is why, as one who values the U.S. — Israel relationship, and loves Israel, I was near tears throughout the Prime Minister’s speech — saddened by the insult to the intelligence of the United States as part of the P5 +1 nations, and saddened by the condescension toward our knowledge of the threat posed by Iran and our broader commitment to preventing nuclear proliferation."




WTF is she talking about!

Due to hallucinations brought about by her Botox saturated brain and rapidly advancing dementia, she probably heard a completely different speech than the one delivered by Bibi. That would explain her reaction.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: flowers on March 03, 2015, 06:27:04 pm
Still looking for the official WH response...if you find it post it.
You know they so p1ssed off right now and cannot see straight.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: xfreeper on March 03, 2015, 06:32:00 pm
Just watched the speech in full.  Nothing new.  Same rhetoric.  No plan other than the status quo. 

But the speech was certainly well delivered.

That's a rather strange interpretation of what was said but I suppose we hear what we want to hear....for example polousy
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 06:32:00 pm
Of course he did! NO deal at all is better than THIS deal but even better would be a MUCH better deal!

I got the NO deal is better than THIS deal from his speech.

But I missed what a MUCH better deal would look like.  Would love to hear what Netanyahu said about this.

Thanks.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Bigun on March 03, 2015, 06:32:26 pm
Quote
So when it comes to Iran and ISIS, the enemy of your enemy is your enemy.

Folks with these words Bibi is trying to let you in on something else he knows but cannot say in public!

ISIS is a creature of Iran created with the help of the Obama administration for their use in their much bigger overall plan. They will be disposed of by Iran when the time comes!
 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 06:33:02 pm

Greta Van Susteren
22 mins · Edited ·
LIKE and SHARE this post if you agree this is bad behavior.
I was stunned by Leader Pelosi's conduct today at Prime Minister Netanyahu's speech. This Facebook post in not about whether you should agree or not agree with the Prime Minister or whether he should give a speech or not -- this is about how one should behave when one is a leader and makes the decision to attend the speech.
I went to the speech and, from my seat in the press balcony, I had a direct line of vision to Leader Pelosi for the entire speech.
Her behavior was so obvious that it was hard to take your eyes off her. She was rude...very rude.
For example, when others (BOTH Republicans and Democrats) stood and clapped, she was about the last to stand and then when she did stand, she turned her back on the Prime Minister and spoke to the person behind her. It was obvious what she was doing and what message she was sending. This happened multiple times. I am not saying she had to stand and clap even when her fellow Democrats were -- but if she was going to stand, she should not have demonstrated her disdain by turning her back.
I realize this is politics and politics are different than the law, but if you acted like this in the courtroom, a judge would hold you in contempt.
By the way, she was the only one I saw doing anything remotely like this -- the other Democrats were polite and clapping, maybe not enthusiastically clapping, but dignified and polite to the Prime Minister.
I know Leader Pelosi is furious that the Prime MInister spoke today (she has made that plain) but she should have stayed in her office instead of attending the speech and showing such disdain for a Head of State of an ally in such a public way. As a Leader in the House of Representatives, she does represent all of us.
And yes, people can have very different and very strong views -- these are tough issues and serious times - but , when you are a leader representing others at a public forum with a Head of State from an ally, either be polite or just don't go. Her behavior was juvenile. She should have skipped it.
Note that she issued a statement after the speech and here it is is:
--------------
Pelosi Statement on Prime Minister Netanyahu’s Address to Congress
Washington, D.C. – Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement regarding Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s address to the Joint Meeting of Congress:
“The unbreakable bonds between the United States and Israel are rooted in our shared values, our common ideals and mutual interests. Ours is a deep and abiding friendship that will always reach beyond party. Americans stand shoulder to shoulder with the Israeli people. The state of Israel stands as the greatest political achievement of the 20th century, and the United States will always have an unshakable commitment to Israel’s security.
“That is why, as one who values the U.S. – Israel relationship, and loves Israel, I was near tears throughout the Prime Minister’s speech – saddened by the insult to the intelligence of the United States as part of the P5 +1 nations, and saddened by the condescension toward our knowledge of the threat posed by Iran and our broader commitment to preventing nuclear proliferation.
“Today, Prime Minister Netanyahu reiterated something we all agree upon: a nuclear armed Iran is unacceptable to both our countries. We have all said that a bad deal is worse than no deal, and stopping the spread of nuclear weapons is the bedrock of our foreign policy and national security. As President Obama has said consistently, all options are on the table for preventing a nuclear-armed Iran.”
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 06:34:44 pm
That's a rather strange interpretation of what was said but I suppose we hear what we want to hear....for example polousy

Granted, I watched it in the office ... so please, what "new" did I miss?  I'd really like to know so that I can appropriately access the value of his speech--beyond his rhetorical style.

Thanks.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: flowers on March 03, 2015, 06:36:47 pm
I got the NO deal is better than THIS deal from his speech.

But I missed what a MUCH better deal would look like.  Would love to hear what Netanyahu said about this.

Thanks.
Why even deal with them?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: libertybele on March 03, 2015, 06:37:22 pm
I sat and watched the speech and thought it was great and obviously by the numerous standing ovations so did the majority of Congress.  I applaud Boehner (for once) for inviting Netanayhu here.  God Bless America and God Bless Israel!

https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=AwrTcceR_vVUJ2cAvZ0nnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTB0c2puYm1xBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwM18x?p=netanyahu+speech&tnr=21&vid=b2ab3ad6bc76f9e7b985ce2a3a13debe&l=2391&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DUR.6878485351712%26pid%3D15.1&sigi=11mq8b4h3&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTX_LebGdibs&sigr=11bbgg3kq&tt=b&tit=Full+Netanyahu+Congress+Speech&sigt=10uot04cb&back=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fyhs%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dnetanyahu%2Bspeech%26ei%3DUTF-8%26hsimp%3Dyhs-001%26hspart%3Dmozilla&sigb=12sqle4mm&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 06:38:47 pm
Why even deal with them?

Why not?  Wouldn't we prefer to watch Iran in the sunlight than wonder what it's doing in the shadows?  Is there no value to Israel's security in that?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Bigun on March 03, 2015, 06:44:07 pm
I got the NO deal is better than THIS deal from his speech.

But I missed what a MUCH better deal would look like.  Would love to hear what Netanyahu said about this.

Thanks.

Quote
This deal won't be a farewell to arms. It would be a farewell to arms control. And the Middle East would soon be crisscrossed by nuclear tripwires. A region where small skirmishes can trigger big wars would turn into a nuclear tinderbox.

If anyone thinks -- if anyone thinks this deal kicks the can down the road, think again. When we get down that road, we'll face a much more dangerous Iran, a Middle East littered with nuclear bombs and a countdown to a potential nuclear nightmare.

Ladies and gentlemen, I've come here today to tell you we don't have to bet the security of the world on the hope that Iran will change for the better. We don't have to gamble with our future and with our children's future.

We can insist that restrictions on Iran's nuclear program not be lifted for as long as Iran continues its aggression in the region and in the world.

(APPLAUSE)

Before lifting those restrictions, the world should demand that Iran do three things. First, stop its aggression against its neighbors in the Middle East. Second...

(APPLAUSE)

Second, stop supporting terrorism around the world.

(APPLAUSE)

And third, stop threatening to annihilate my country, Israel, the one and only Jewish state.


(APPLAUSE)

Thank you.

If the world powers are not prepared to insist that Iran change its behavior before a deal is signed, at the very least they should insist that Iran change its behavior before a deal expires.

(APPLAUSE)

If Iran changes its behavior, the restrictions would be lifted. If Iran doesn't change its behavior, the restrictions should not be lifted.

(APPLAUSE)

If Iran wants to be treated like a normal country, let it act like a normal country.

(APPLAUSE)

My friends, what about the argument that there's no alternative to this deal, that Iran's nuclear know-how cannot be erased, that its nuclear program is so advanced that the best we can do is delay the inevitable, which is essentially what the proposed deal seeks to do?

Well, nuclear know-how without nuclear infrastructure doesn't get you very much. A racecar driver without a car can't drive. A pilot without a plan can't fly. Without thousands of centrifuges, tons of enriched uranium or heavy water facilities, Iran can't make nuclear weapons.

(APPLAUSE)

Iran's nuclear program can be rolled back well-beyond the current proposal by insisting on a better deal and keeping up the pressure on a very vulnerable regime, especially given the recent collapse in the price of oil.

Emphasis added by me.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 06:45:33 pm
Here we go


http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/netanyahu-speech-reaction-white/2015/03/03/id/627991/ (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/netanyahu-speech-reaction-white/2015/03/03/id/627991/)


Newsmax
White House: Netanyahu Offers 'No Concrete Action Plan' on Iran
Tuesday, March 3, 2015 01:29 PM

By: REUTERS

 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu failed to offer an alternative in his speech to the U.S. Congress on the ongoing nuclear talks with Iran, a senior U.S. administration official said on Tuesday.

"Simply demanding that Iran completely capitulate is not a plan, nor would any country support us in that position. The prime minister offered no concrete action plan," the official said, speaking on background.

Netanyahu warned Congress against accepting a deal with Iran that President Barack Obama and his administration are deeply invested in negotiating, arguing that the deal would leave Iran with a "breakout time" of a year, which he said was too short.

The senior U.S. official said that the administration was pursuing a deal that "verifiably prevents" Iran from obtaining a weapon, and increases the breakout time "substantially" to a year from the current estimate of two to three months.

"These negotiations are not an opening to a rapprochement with Iran," the official said.

The official said that the proposed length of the deal - a decade or longer - would be "far longer than any other option."

"Military action would set it back by a fraction of that time, at which point Iran would begin to rebuild its program and try to break out for a weapon," the official said.

The official said Netanyahu contradicted himself by arguing that the Iranian government is both "powerful and unchanging" and "weak and vulnerable" and insisting that it needed to change as a condition for a nuclear deal.

"The logic of the prime minister's speech is regime change, not a nuclear speech," the official said.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: musiclady on March 03, 2015, 06:46:08 pm
Thanks for posting (and bolding) those quotes, Bigun.

Bibi laid down a very clear strategy for dealing with Iran.

I don't know how anyone missed it....   **nononono*
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Bigun on March 03, 2015, 06:47:15 pm
Why not?  Wouldn't we prefer to watch Iran in the sunlight than wonder what it's doing in the shadows?  Is there no value to Israel's security in that?

I'm TIRED of "watching" IRAN! We've been watching this regime in Iran for well over thirty years and in all that time the only thing that's changed is that they have gotten even more militant that they were to begin with!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: flowers on March 03, 2015, 06:48:07 pm
Why not?  Wouldn't we prefer to watch Iran in the sunlight than wonder what it's doing in the shadows?  Is there no value to Israel's security in that?
They will never change with the current regime. You cannot play nice with them, ever. At least in the shadows they haven't been able to full on make nukes. Now they will be able to.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Bigun on March 03, 2015, 06:49:01 pm
Thanks for posting (and bolding) those quotes, Bigun.

Bibi laid down a very clear strategy for dealing with Iran.

I don't know how anyone missed it....   **nononono*

You are very welcome!

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 06:50:27 pm
Brietbart

1:35 p.m. EST: Breitbart News’ Charlie Spiering observes:

Many Democrat members of the Congressional Black Caucus who actually attended Netanyahu’s speech were among the most subdued, refusing to stand or applaud. Rep. Joyce Beatty (D-OH) thumbed through her smart phone for a large portion of the speech. As the speech ended she stood up with the rest of the members who were applauding. Beatty clapped a few times before returning to her smart phone and left the speech.

As Netanyahu was announced, most of Congress stood and applauded heartily. Not so with Senate Minority Harry Reid, who stood with his hands in his pockets as Netanyahu made his way up the aisles. As Netanyahu approached Reid, he shook his hand before grabbing him by both arms and pulled him closer to exchange a few words. Reid, still recovering from his exercise accident, rarely stood with the rest of his Senate colleagues as they repeatedly gave Netanyahu a standing ovation.

Netanyahu acknowledged Reid during his speech, specifically referring to the accident. “Harry, it’s good to see you back on your feet,” he said.

Prior the speech, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi had an animated conversation before Schultz took her seat. During the speech, Pelosi clenched her jaw and repeatedly muttered under her breath especially as Netanyahu began criticizing the negotiations with Iran.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 06:58:09 pm
Emphasis added by me.

Thanks!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 07:07:32 pm
I am tempted to challenge you RiV, the lone dissenter here. But, what would be the point? You obviously have an intense dislike of america's long time ally and sole democracy in the Middle East.

I really don't have the time to try and dissuade you from that position.

Thank you.

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: xfreeper on March 03, 2015, 07:11:13 pm
Why not?  Wouldn't we prefer to watch Iran in the sunlight than wonder what it's doing in the shadows?  Is there no value to Israel's security in that?

It sounds as though you equate appeasement with ' watching Iran in the sunlight' whatever that means, and believe the opposite is a lack of strategy.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: flowers on March 03, 2015, 07:29:38 pm
(http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/34/77/42/7600309/3/628x471.jpg)

Pelosi turns around and bullies demorats not to clap for Bibi during his speech. from today.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 03, 2015, 07:30:53 pm
Myst... thank you for your efforts with this thread.  Well done.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: EC on March 03, 2015, 07:37:54 pm
AJE News ‏@AJENews 6m6 minutes ago

Obama's rebuttal: "Nothing new" in Netanyahu's speech to US Congress. http://aje.io/a539 

Note: not read it yet.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: xfreeper on March 03, 2015, 07:40:21 pm
Greta Van Susteren
22 mins · Edited ·
As a Leader in the House of Representatives, she does represent all of us.

Ah, no Greta, she does not represent me
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 03, 2015, 07:42:02 pm
AJE News ‏@AJENews 6m6 minutes ago

Obama's rebuttal: "Nothing new" in Netanyahu's speech to US Congress. http://aje.io/a539 

Note: not read it yet.

"Nothing new" is obviously the theme.

One must practice the haughty flick of the wrist while saying it is "nothing new" while proceeding to sip one's tea. 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mountaineer on March 03, 2015, 07:48:51 pm
Don Surber (http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2015/03/netanyahu-1-obama-0.html?spref=tw):
Quote
Tuesday, March 03, 2015
   
Netanyahu 1, Obama 0

The confrontation between nations turned out to be Benjamin Netanyahu praising Barack Obama -- and the president looking like the trifling fool he is.

 Netanyahu -- who was left sitting and waiting for hours at the White House shortly after The Won as in the childish "I won, I will trump you on that" became president -- let bygones be bygones and praised the president.

 Oh the media will pump up a feud, but those who saw the prime minister's speech before Congress today know better.

From Netanyahu:
Quote
Because America and Israel, we share a common destiny, the destiny of promised lands that cherish freedom and offer hope. Israel is grateful for the support of American -- of America's people and of America's presidents, from Harry Truman to Barack Obama. We appreciate all that President Obama has done for Israel.

Now, some of that is widely known. Some of that is widely known, like strengthening security cooperation and intelligence sharing, opposing anti-Israel resolutions at the U.N.

Some of what the president has done for Israel is less well- known. I called him in 2010 when we had the Carmel forest fire, and he immediately agreed to respond to my request for urgent aid. In 2011, we had our embassy in Cairo under siege, and again, he provided vital assistance at the crucial moment. Or his support for more missile interceptors during our operation last summer when we took on Hamas terrorists.
Hardly sounds angry. You heard of killing with kindness? This is it. By comparison, our president looks peevish and petulant for refusing to see the prime minister and opposing this speech.

 Meanwhile, the president held a press conference to say, gee, Netanyahu said nothing new. This must not be tracking well for the president, or he would have continued to ignore the speech he said he was going to ignore. Our friends and our adversaries clearly see his weakness.

 We have a boy president -- Peter Pan with a bong who never grew up -- the affirmative action figure who never had to make his bed.

 Netanyahu showed the world that President 45 is irrelevant. Time to prepare for President 46.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Carling on March 03, 2015, 07:51:17 pm
I think Bibi stating before our congress and the world that Israel will do what it needs to do to protect itself, with or without the USA's backing, is major news.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: alicewonders on March 03, 2015, 07:56:57 pm
I think Bibi stating before our congress and the world that Israel will do what it needs to do to protect itself, with or without the USA's backing, is major news.

Wouldn't be surprised if Israel takes action soon.

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: DCPatriot on March 03, 2015, 08:00:54 pm
Just watched the speech in full.  Nothing new.  Same rhetoric.  No plan other than the status quo. 

But the speech was certainly well delivered.

What did you think of the number of standing ovations Netanyahu received before Congress?
 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 08:04:43 pm
We are a Judeo Christian nation and Obama is rewriting history and trying to force us into becoming an Islamo Judeo Christian nation. Except, the Islamo Nazi fringe aren't cooperating. They want the whole pie.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2015, 08:07:05 pm
Myst... thank you for your efforts with this thread.  Well done.

 :seeya:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 08:39:44 pm
What did you think of the number of standing ovations Netanyahu received before Congress?

Netanyahu's a charismatic speaker and really appears empathetic, caring and powerful.--so it was expected and unsurprising.

Let me return the favor and ask you:

Remember for a moment the number of times since 1992 Netanyahu has warned the world-- with time specificity-- that Iran was on the brink of developing a nuclear bomb.  For example, in 1992 Netanyahu alerted the world that Iran was 3 to 6 months from developing a nuclear weapon.  He presented this same warning again in his 1996 address to Congress during his first term as Prime Minister.  (And so forth and so on through 23 years)

If this had been any other leader, not one nearly so handsome, well-spoken, politically savvy and charismatic, would we at least have raised the possibility (among ourselves) that this leader's perpetual focus on and dire rhetoric about Iran and nuclear weapons (for 23 years) might have drifted into a pathology?

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: musiclady on March 03, 2015, 08:52:01 pm
I think Bibi stating before our congress and the world that Israel will do what it needs to do to protect itself, with or without the USA's backing, is major news.

It IS major news, and it is significant.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 08:53:49 pm
Netanyahu's a charismatic speaker and really appears empathetic, caring and powerful.--so it was expected and unsurprising.

Let me return the favor and ask you:

Remember for a moment the number of times since 1992 Netanyahu has warned the world-- with time specificity-- that Iran was on the brink of developing a nuclear bomb.  For example, in 1992 Netanyahu alerted the world that Iran was 3 to 6 months from developing a nuclear weapon.  He presented this same warning again in his 1996 address to Congress during his first term as Prime Minister.  (And so forth and so on through 23 years)

If this had been any other leader, not one nearly so handsome, well-spoken, politically savvy and charismatic, would we at least have raised the possibility (among ourselves) that this leader's perpetual focus on and dire rhetoric about Iran and nuclear weapons (for 23 years) might have drifted into a pathology?

But why focus on what our Jewish friend has said and not what our Islamic enemies have said explicitly time after time since 1976?: We will destroy the state of Israel!

That's the part of your argument we don't get?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: olde north church on March 03, 2015, 08:54:32 pm
I think Bibi stating before our congress and the world that Israel will do what it needs to do to protect itself, with or without the USA's backing, is major news.

It will be necessary for Israel to begin production of weapons.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 08:56:19 pm
But why focus on what our Jewish friend has said

Ahh...because this is a thread about Benjamin Netanyahu and the world-altering speech he gave today before a joint session of Congress?   :pondering:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: ABX on March 03, 2015, 08:56:52 pm
Netanyahu's a charismatic speaker and really appears empathetic, caring and powerful.--so it was expected and unsurprising.

Let me return the favor and ask you:

Remember for a moment the number of times since 1992 Netanyahu has warned the world-- with time specificity-- that Iran was on the brink of developing a nuclear bomb.  For example, in 1992 Netanyahu alerted the world that Iran was 3 to 6 months from developing a nuclear weapon.  He presented this same warning again in his 1996 address to Congress during his first term as Prime Minister.  (And so forth and so on through 23 years)

If this had been any other leader, not one nearly so handsome, well-spoken, politically savvy and charismatic, would we at least have raised the possibility (among ourselves) that this leader's perpetual focus on and dire rhetoric about Iran and nuclear weapons (for 23 years) might have drifted into a pathology?

In each of these cases (and more), shortly after, Israel took action, either overtly or covertly to slow Iran down.  From assassination of nuclear scientists to cyber attacks. These weren't tilting at windmill statements, they were precursors to taking action to at least slow Iran's progress. You don't need to listen to a word Netanyahu says on the subject. Iran has telegraphed their desires and plans very clearly in this regard. You could filter out all statements Israel or even the US has made on the subject, and just read Iran's own statements.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 08:57:34 pm
Ahh...because this is a thread about Benjamin Netanyahu and the world-altering speech he gave today before a joint session of Congress?   :pondering:

Ahh, but what was the subject of the speech before Congress?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 08:57:43 pm

That's the part of your argument we don't get?

Out of curiosity, who's the "WE"?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: mountaineer on March 03, 2015, 09:00:08 pm
Ahh...because this is a thread about Benjamin Netanyahu and the world-altering speech he gave today before a joint session of Congress?   :pondering:
Who here referred to it as world-altering?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 09:00:37 pm
Ahh, but what was the subject of the speech before Congress?

Netanyahu, Obama and Iran?

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 09:01:42 pm
Who here referred to it as world-altering?

Sorry.. that was in an opinion piece in the Israeli press.

Here in the states we would call it "historic".

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 09:02:46 pm
Out of curiosity, who's the "WE"?

"what do you mean we, paleface?" Is that your retort?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 09:09:01 pm
"what do you mean we, paleface?" Is that your retort?

 9999what

I simply wanted to know what people you are referring to when you say "that's what we don't understand" when referring to something I've posted.

Please, do share.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: sinkspur on March 03, 2015, 09:13:48 pm
Netanyahu's a charismatic speaker and really appears empathetic, caring and powerful.--so it was expected and unsurprising.

Let me return the favor and ask you:

Remember for a moment the number of times since 1992 Netanyahu has warned the world-- with time specificity-- that Iran was on the brink of developing a nuclear bomb.  For example, in 1992 Netanyahu alerted the world that Iran was 3 to 6 months from developing a nuclear weapon.  He presented this same warning again in his 1996 address to Congress during his first term as Prime Minister.  (And so forth and so on through 23 years)

If this had been any other leader, not one nearly so handsome, well-spoken, politically savvy and charismatic, would we at least have raised the possibility (among ourselves) that this leader's perpetual focus on and dire rhetoric about Iran and nuclear weapons (for 23 years) might have drifted into a pathology?

You have no interest in what Bibi said, or what he has said, because you've made it clear in the past you despise him.  And, on more than one occasion, you've indicated you're not exactly a fan of Israel either.

So, your faux questions and pseudo-concern over Bibi's comments should be viewed in that context.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: DCPatriot on March 03, 2015, 09:21:53 pm

Netanyahu's a charismatic speaker and really appears empathetic, caring and powerful.--so it was expected and unsurprising.


Interesting choice of word, "appears".  Are you thinking that perhaps, it's merely a facade and not the actual persona?

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Let me return the favor and ask you:

Remember for a moment the number of times since 1992 Netanyahu has warned the world-- with time specificity-- that Iran was on the brink of developing a nuclear bomb.  For example, in 1992 Netanyahu alerted the world that Iran was 3 to 6 months from developing a nuclear weapon.  He presented this same warning again in his 1996 address to Congress during his first term as Prime Minister.  (And so forth and so on through 23 years)

If this had been any other leader, not one nearly so handsome, well-spoken, politically savvy and charismatic, would we at least have raised the possibility (among ourselves) that this leader's perpetual focus on and dire rhetoric about Iran and nuclear weapons (for 23 years) might have drifted into a pathology?

Well, when you're the target of annihilation, publicly stately by Iran every chance they get,  THAT'S  "expected and unsurprising".

BTW...75% of the enriched uranium tubes necessary to assemble nuclear bombs have been achieved by Iran during Obama's regime.
Which, shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.


We've mostly shared the same POV over the years, Right_In-Virginia.  Frankly I am surprised and more than a little bit shocked at your position regarding Bibi Netanyahu and Israel in general.

It's not a stretch at all for me to imagine "Breaking News" that Tel Aviv had suffered a nuke attack by Iran or a client state.

Evidently, it is improbable....or even impossible, to you.

Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: xfreeper on March 03, 2015, 09:35:39 pm
Obama's R in V rebuttal: "Nothing new" in Netanyahu's speech to US Congress
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 03, 2015, 09:41:25 pm
Gingrich on with Hannity. He was in the chamber for Netanyahu's speech. Gingrich is a smart guy. Worth taking a listen.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: DCPatriot on March 03, 2015, 09:43:02 pm
Obama's R in V rebuttal: "Nothing new" in Netanyahu's speech to US Congress

Well, wait a moment.   We both understand English, don't we?

Netanyahu's speech wasn't supposed to offer an alternative plan. 

And how can anyone present a different plan, when they are being shut out on the process regarding the PRESENT 'plan'?

Instead, he did exactly what I said to RiV the other day.  Words mean something to Bibi.   He essentially said never again, when he shouted "NO MORE!!".

He told the world that he's prepared to go it along to preserve thei existence.

To me.....that's pretty damn "NEW"!!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on March 03, 2015, 09:51:43 pm
Well, wait a moment.   We both understand English, don't we?

Netanyahu's speech wasn't supposed to offer an alternative plan. 

And how can anyone present a different plan, when they are being shut out on the process regarding the PRESENT 'plan'?

Instead, he did exactly what I said to RiV the other day.  Words mean something to Bibi.   He essentially said never again, when he shouted "NO MORE!!".

He told the world that he's prepared to go it along to preserve thei existence.

To me.....that's pretty damn "NEW"!!

How could he discuss an alternative plan without revealing the existing plan that the Obama admin warned him not to reveal?
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 10:00:29 pm

We've mostly shared the same POV over the years, Right_In-Virginia.  Frankly I am surprised and more than a little bit shocked at your position regarding Bibi Netanyahu and Israel in general.

It's not a stretch at all for me to imagine "Breaking News" that Tel Aviv had suffered a nuke attack by Iran or a client state.

Evidently, it is improbable....or even impossible, to you.

Just to clarify--sometimes folks have a hard time (not just here) with the difference:  I support Israel.  I do not support Benjamin Netanyahu.

Back to you're question:

Nothing's impossible.  But I do see it as improbable.  Maybe I just can't wrap my heart around any nation being willing to wipe itself off the planet just to wipe out someone else.  And with their proximity and Israel's Samson Option--that's what would happen.  The whole region would be glass.

I find it hard to believe that Netanyahu REALLY sees this issue in terms of a mushroom cloud, for the same reasons I don't.

I think Netanyahu's always seen Iran as a threat to the world order in the Middle East.  Iran may forge political avenues with Europe and the United States.  I think this is as much Mr. Netanyahu's existential threat as a mushroom cloud. 

But fear of nuclear weapons is palpable--and politically it "sells".  And, unfortunately, fear is Netanyahu's political lifeblood.



Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2015, 10:07:14 pm
You have no interest in what Bibi said, or what he has said, because you've made it clear in the past you despise him.  And, on more than one occasion, you've indicated you're not exactly a fan of Israel either.

So, your faux questions and pseudo-concern over Bibi's comments should be viewed in that context.

Thanks for sharing. 

I'll say again I do not like Benjamin Netanyahu's leadership.  It is my thoughtful opinion that Mr. BiBi is hurting Israel across the globe.  And, I don't like seeing ANYONE hurting Israel. 

BTW, I never used the word "despise"--but if you need the faux drama to make your point--you've my permission.

Shalom.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Oceander on March 04, 2015, 01:04:14 am
RightSideNews ‏@rightsidenews 28s28 seconds ago

Valerie Jarrett: Obama Too Busy to Watch Netanyahu Speech; Cites ‘Let Girls Learn’ Initiative


:silly:

Since that was scheduled weeks ago, why would he have made such a fuss about the speech if it's so unimportant to him that he won't even watch it?

Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Oceander on March 04, 2015, 01:07:58 am
Bibi praised Obama. Oh, puke.....

Now, now.  This gent is capable of playing a wicked game of chess; this is a gambit, no more, no less.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Oceander on March 04, 2015, 01:09:54 am
Diane Feinstein make a comment Sunday nastily declaring that Netanyahu doesn’t speak for her. Now she is standing clapping. He is a smart man how he set this up.

Yes he is.  He plays a wicked game of political chess; he's even better than Obama (who is, unfortunately, much better at political chess than are the hapless GOP).
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: aligncare on March 04, 2015, 01:12:08 am
Now, now.  This gent is capable of playing a wicked game of chess; this is a gambit, no more, no less.

Any praise of that POS Obama still rankles me.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: xfreeper on March 04, 2015, 01:28:27 am
Nothing's impossible.  But I do see it as improbable.  Maybe I just can't wrap my heart around any nation being willing to wipe itself off the planet just to wipe out someone else.  And with their proximity and Israel's Samson Option--that's what would happen.  The whole region would be glass.

You apparently don't see the potential for any nukes somehow falling into the hands of a group that isn't quite as rational as you or the the nation of iran. The assuption that it wouldn't happen is not a stretch people responsible for the safety of their own nation would make so casually
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: xfreeper on March 04, 2015, 01:33:36 am
Well, wait a moment.   We both understand English, don't we?

Netanyahu's speech wasn't supposed to offer an alternative plan. 

And how can anyone present a different plan, when they are being shut out on the process regarding the PRESENT 'plan'?

Instead, he did exactly what I said to RiV the other day.  Words mean something to Bibi.   He essentially said never again, when he shouted "NO MORE!!".

He told the world that he's prepared to go it along to preserve thei existence.

To me.....that's pretty damn "NEW"!!

I was merely noting the coincidence of the R in V post being in lockstep with zero's
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Fishrrman on March 04, 2015, 01:56:36 am
Right in Virginia asks:
[[ I only caught snippets of the speech (in the office).  Did Netanyahu lay out an alternative to the deal he opposes?  If so, what is it?  Thanks. ]]

The “alternative” is to bomb Iran’s nascent nuclear infrastructure back to the stone age.

Israel stands alone now in the world, and if she is to survive, she has no choice but to do this.

Perhaps that can be accomplished with conventional weapons alone.

But if it can’t, the only course of action is to use whatever weapons necessary to achieve that objective.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Fishrrman on March 04, 2015, 02:24:49 am
mystery wrote above:
[[ Wow! Democrats LASH OUT at Netanyahu, Tell Him to Go Home, Call Him “a Child” ]]

The “child” in our government is a boy in the White House!
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Lando Lincoln on March 04, 2015, 02:34:31 am
Any praise of that POS Obama still rankles me.

Yes, me too.  But, I understand it.  As O has said, it was chess-like.  I'd add it had a flair of statesmanship since it was in the House Chamber. 

I still hate it.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Oceander on March 04, 2015, 03:03:08 am
That was a speech!


Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: NavyCanDo on March 04, 2015, 03:15:34 am
That was a speech!

That was  Leader.

Netanyahu makes Obama seem so small and immature, and in Obama's own words Junior Varsity. 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Oceander on March 04, 2015, 03:15:52 am
"That" was  Leader.

Netanyahu makes Obama seem so small and immature, and in Obama's own words Junior Varsity. 

yup
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: NavyCanDo on March 04, 2015, 03:21:56 am
No wonder Obama and the Democrats were afraid of Netanyahu speaking to Americans... they were hoping we'd forget what a REAL Statesman telling the Truth sounds like...
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: DCPatriot on March 04, 2015, 03:27:53 am
No wonder Obama and the Democrats were afraid of Netanyahu speaking to Americans... they were hoping we'd forget what a REAL Statesman telling the Truth sounds like...

LOL!   Where were you all day?

Everything okay?   :laugh:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: NavyCanDo on March 04, 2015, 04:28:16 am
LOL!   Where were you all day?

Everything okay?   :laugh:

Admittedly, I'm not as active here as I use to be. I normally visit the site during lunch, but work is getting so busy, I barely have lunch anymore. And once I get home logging back onto a computer after being on one all day is the last thing on my mind. 
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: DCPatriot on March 04, 2015, 04:51:45 am
Admittedly, I'm not as active here as I use to be. I normally visit the site during lunch, but work is getting so busy, I barely have lunch anymore. And once I get home logging back onto a computer after being on one all day is the last thing on my mind.

Well, it's good to see you on the board.   :beer:
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: 240B on March 04, 2015, 05:44:31 am
Word is Obama threw a tantrum like a 3 year old during and after Bibi's tremendous speech. His mommy Val-Jar almost had to give him a time-out and told him there would would be no nursing tonight if he does not stop it.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: 240B on March 04, 2015, 06:11:32 am
The best part of the whole thing was when Netenyahu began praising Obama. And used the line, He has helped us in ways no one even knows. When we called him, he was there.

Obama's affiliations are all radical Muslims, and radical Blacks. This would be like a police chief calling out a gang leader and saying, He helped us in ways no one knows. When we called him, he was there.

Obama must have been furious when he heard this, which only makes it more delicious.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: DCPatriot on March 04, 2015, 07:21:51 am
The best part of the whole thing was when Netenyahu began praising Obama. And used the line, He has helped us in ways no one even knows. When we called him, he was there.

Obama's affiliations are all radical Muslims, and radical Blacks. This would be like a police chief calling out a gang leader and saying, He helped us in ways no one knows. When we called him, he was there.

Obama must have been furious when he heard this, which only makes it more delicious.

I've been thinking about this all day.

Have come to the conclusion that, together with the revived story surfacing about Obama threatening to shoot down Israeli aircraft in the event of an attack on Iran, the REAL intent in the speech was to put it into the record that Israel is planning on going it alone.

And, at the same time, they have neutered Obama to react.

How can Obama interfere or kill Israelis in public after it's been claimed that "He's always helped us in more way than you know"....etc.?

It kind of ties his hands to sabotage Israel's plans. We know that Israel stopped sharing information with Obama years ago.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: olde north church on March 04, 2015, 12:42:28 pm
The best part of the whole thing was when Netenyahu began praising Obama. And used the line, He has helped us in ways no one even knows. When we called him, he was there.

Obama's affiliations are all radical Muslims, and radical Blacks. This would be like a police chief calling out a gang leader and saying, He helped us in ways no one knows. When we called him, he was there.

Obama must have been furious when he heard this, which only makes it more delicious.

Your analysis reminds me of something I read about Mao Tse-Tung.  I guess once in a while, he would have his opponents treated well while they were in the Communists custody.  It would either get the hostage to convert to his way of thinking OR when released his fellows would believe the individual had been compromised and no longer valuable.
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: Fishrrman on March 04, 2015, 03:32:03 pm
240b wrote above:
[[ The best part of the whole thing was when Netenyahu began praising Obama. And used the line, He has helped us in ways no one even knows. When we called him, he was there.
Obama's affiliations are all radical Muslims, and radical Blacks. This would be like a police chief calling out a gang leader and saying, He helped us in ways no one knows. When we called him, he was there. ]]


"Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer..."
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: xfreeper on March 04, 2015, 07:32:43 pm
He has helped us in ways no one even knows

I can see him meaning zero didn't know
Title: Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Netanyahu Addresses Congress
Post by: DCPatriot on March 04, 2015, 08:08:25 pm


He has helped us in ways no one even knows

I can see him meaning zero didn't know

Good take.  I missed that.

He probably meant that because they have eavesdropped on his communications, or learned about it 3rd party, Obama has been actively working against Israel.

And as a result of that information and proof, they have prepared themselves for war.  They know exactly who the players are.