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General Category => Sports/Entertainment/MSM/Social Media => Topic started by: endicom on September 09, 2018, 01:45:46 am
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Reuters
Steve Keating
Sept. 8, 2018
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Naomi Osaka became Japan’s first Grand Slam singles champion after she thumped Serena Williams 6-2 6-4 in a controversial U.S. Open final on Saturday, with the American suffering a mesmerizing meltdown after being handed a code violation.
It was drama-filled conclusion to a final that was rich with storylines but will now go down as one of the most controversial Grand Slam finals of all time.
There was much riding on the match for both women, with Osaka bidding to become the first man or woman from Japan to lift a Grand Slam singles title and Williams poised to equal Margaret Court’s record of 24 major titles.
More... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tennis-usopen-williams-osaka/osaka-beats-serena-to-win-first-grand-slam-title-idUSKCN1LO0UP (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tennis-usopen-williams-osaka/osaka-beats-serena-to-win-first-grand-slam-title-idUSKCN1LO0UP)
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So what was controversial?
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Serena played the gender card, too. Like her opponent isn’t female :shrug:
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Serena played the gender card, too. Like her opponent isn’t female :shrug:
Yellow beats back black?
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Yellow beats back black?
Not sure. I think I read that Osaka’s part Japanese and part Haitian. That’s a tough one to use the race card on, but they’ve started.
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Not sure. I think I read that Osaka’s part Japanese and part Haitian. That’s a tough one to use the race card on, but they’ve started.
Okay. This might be interferstring.
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Osaka played an incredible tournament and final. Serena behaved very badly and that was the real shame.
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Osaka played an incredible tournament and final. Serena behaved very badly and that was the real shame.
A future Nike ad in the making?
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A future Nike ad in the making?
She’s actually part of the Kap Nike ad controversy.
http://www.tmz.com/2018/09/05/nike-colin-kaepernick-commercial/ (http://www.tmz.com/2018/09/05/nike-colin-kaepernick-commercial/)
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Mouratoglou later admitted he had been coaching but in another strange twist an unrepentant Williams continued to deny she had received any advice and was instead a victim of sexism.
“He (Ramos) alleged that I was cheating, and I wasn’t cheating,†said Williams. “I’ve seen other men call other umpires several things.
“I’m here fighting for women’s rights and for women’s equality and for all kinds of stuff.
“For me to say ‘thief’ and for him to take a game, it made me feel like it was a sexist remark.â€
This is what drives me crazy about Serena. She is an incredible athlete and an immensely talented tennis player, but then she goes and spouts off the most ridiculous tripe about what a victim she is.
She was clearly badgering the chair umpire after two previous code violations, and it had absolutely nothing to do with her gender or women's rights. Ugh.
It stinks for Osaka because she played well enough to win even without all the drama, but because of the spectacle from Serena all the joy was sucked right out of her first major victory. Pretty much her entire time on the winner's podium was spent in tears. It was really unfortunate.
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If John Patrick McEnroe Jr were alive today i am sure he would have something to say about her loss.
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Osaka is of Haitian and Japanese heritage, but has lived in the U.S. since childhood and holds dual Japanese-U.S. citizenship. During the match, 1) Serena's coach flashed hand signals to tell her to charge the net more. 2) Serena missed a shot and slammed her racket to the ground, rendering it unusable. 3) Serena berated the chair ump, insisting on her own ethical purity and accusing him of stealing the match from her. That third infraction resulted in the assessment of a one game penalty, and Osaka went on to win the second set.
Serena lost this match because Osaka outplayed her. The younger woman won in straight sets, and that's not the ump's fault. Throughout the match, the pro-Serena crowd booed every point Osaka scored. And then the tournament officials made it even worse at the awards ceremony: It’s shameful what US Open did to Naomi Osaka
By Maureen Callahan
September 8, 2018 | 8:35pm
Naomi Osaka, 20 years old, just became the first player from Japan to win a Grand Slam.
Yet rather than cheer Osaka, the crowd, the commentators and US Open officials all expressed shock and grief that Serena Williams lost.
Osaka spent what should have been her victory lap in tears. It had been her childhood dream to make it to the US Open and possibly play against Williams, her idol, in the final.
It’s hard to recall a more unsportsmanlike event. ...
At the awards ceremony, Osaka covered her face with her black visor and cried. The crowd booed her. Katrina Adams, chairman and president of the USTA, opened the awards ceremony by denigrating the winner and lionizing Williams — whose ego, if anything, needs piercing.
“Perhaps it’s not the finish we were looking for today,†Adams said, “but Serena, you are a champion of all champions.†Addressing the crowd, Adams added, “This mama is a role model and respected by all.†...
NY Post (https://nypost.com/2018/09/08/its-shameful-what-us-open-did-to-naomi-osaka/)
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SI Tennis Verified account @SI_Tennis
Serena: "I'm here fighting for women's rights and for women's equality and for all kinds of stuff. For me to say 'thief' and for him to take a game, it made me feel like it was a sexist remark. He's never taken a game from a man because they said 'thief'."
6:51 PM - 8 Sep 2018
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Candace Owens Verified account @RealCandaceO
25m25 minutes ago
Ah. Yes. Serena lost last night because of racism, sexism, misogyny and russian collusion. Not because Osaka played better.
I have pre-ordered her upcoming tell-all book “what happenedâ€, so that I may better understand the topic of ‘butt-hurt on the tennis court’.
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It’s shameful what US Open did to Naomi Osaka
https://nypost.com/2018/09/08/its-shameful-what-us-open-did-to-naomi-osaka/
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(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/180908-serena-osaka-column.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1)
Serena Williams reacts while being interviewed after her defeat to Naomi Osaka.
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“I’m here fighting for women’s rights and for women’s equality and for all kinds of stuff. For me to say ‘thief’ and for him to take a game, it made me feel like it was a sexist remark.
That's funny,I don't care who you are!
Nothing is more funny than seeing a multi-millionaire entertainer screaming about being a figurehead for justice. Get within 15 feet of her and she would have her bodyguards beat you to within an inch of your life unless you are recognized as being another multi-millionaire.
So what she is REALLY saying is that she stands for the rights of other homegurl multi-millionaire sports entertainment figures. Namely she and her sister,and she would push her sister under a bus if that is what it would take for her to win another championship.
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So what was controversial?
@The Ghost
Well,to be fair,the Japanese woman was not expected to win playing against a female that looks like a NFL linebacker. Strength does matter in tennis.
This was the linebackers match to lose,and she lost it by losing her cool.
Maybe they will give her an "Participant Trophy" and a T-shirt to make her feel good?
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Serena played the gender card, too. Like her opponent isn’t female :shrug:
@goodwithagun
Compared to her,most bricklayers look female.
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This is what drives me crazy about Serena. She is an incredible athlete and an immensely talented tennis player, but then she goes and spouts off the most ridiculous tripe about what a victim she is.
@Polly Ticks
You can take the rat out of the hood,but you can't take the hood out of the rat. When people get mad,they fall back on what they know. In her case,she knows that anything bad that happens to her is someone else's fault.
It was her game to lose,and she did. She will never accept the blame for this,though. It's just not a part of her culture to accept blame for anything.
It stinks for Osaka because she played well enough to win even without all the drama, but because of the spectacle from Serena all the joy was sucked right out of her first major victory. Pretty much her entire time on the winner's podium was spent in tears. It was really unfortunate.
I couldn't agree more. Would it have killed Serena to have been even a TINY bit gracious and congratulated her opponent on the victory? And if it did,wouldn't that have made America a better place?
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(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/180908-serena-osaka-column.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1)
Serena Williams reacts while being interviewed after her defeat to Naomi Osaka.
@mystery-ak
I can't help it. Every time I see a photo of her on a tennis court,I wonder why somebody dressed a NFL linebacker as a female tennis player.
She had better hire a SERIOUS dietician to monitor her food intake once she retires,or she will balloon up to 500 lbs.
BTW,do female tennis players get checked for steroid use?
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Serena looks more muscular than fat....as far as the steroid use I have no idea if the Tennis Federation monitors that.
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Just another Nike sponsored multi-millionaire who claims, simultaneously, to be both entitled and persecuted.
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Serena looks more muscular than fat....as far as the steroid use I have no idea if the Tennis Federation monitors that.
@mystery-ak
That's why I say she looks like a NFL linebacker. She can probably bench press more weight than most men. She has been working hard since she was a child to be a pro tennis player,and it shows.
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(http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/180908-serena-osaka-column.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1)
Adidas should grab onto that photo....use it as a meme headline.
Once again Nike only gives excuses. Adidas builds today's champions.
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It’s shameful what US Open did to Naomi Osaka
By Maureen Callahan
September 8, 2018 | 8:35pm
Naomi Osaka, 20 years old, just became the first player from Japan to win a Grand Slam.
Yet rather than cheer Osaka, the crowd, the commentators and US Open officials all expressed shock and grief that Serena Williams lost.
Osaka spent what should have been her victory lap in tears. It had been her childhood dream to make it to the US Open and possibly play against Williams, her idol, in the final.
It’s hard to recall a more unsportsmanlike event. ...
At the awards ceremony, Osaka covered her face with her black visor and cried. The crowd booed her. Katrina Adams, chairman and president of the USTA, opened the awards ceremony by denigrating the winner and lionizing Williams — whose ego, if anything, needs piercing.
“Perhaps it’s not the finish we were looking for today,†Adams said, “but Serena, you are a champion of all champions.†Addressing the crowd, Adams added, “This mama is a role model and respected by all.†...
Excellent article and right on the money.
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Speaking of money ...
Serena Williams was fined $17,000 for three code violations during Saturday’s U.S. Open final that caused the tennis player to be penalized a game when she criticized the chair umpire for a controversial call and labeled him a “thief.â€
The tournament referee's office announced Sunday it docked Williams $10,000 for "verbal abuse" of chair umpire Carlos Ramos, $4,000 for being warned for coaching and $3,000 for breaking her racket.
The money comes out of her prize money of $1.85 million as the runner-up.
Serena Williams Fined $17,000 for Violations During US Open Final (http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/09/09/serena-williams-fined-17000-for-violations-during-us-open-final.html)
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Serena looks more muscular than fat....as far as the steroid use I have no idea if the Tennis Federation monitors that.
They do monitor, yes.
LONDON (AP) — Serena Williams says it isn't fair that she has been drug-tested more than other American tennis players this year.
"Just test everyone equally," the seven-time Wimbledon champion said Sunday at a pre-tournament news conference.
She was asked about the issue because of a recent report by Deadspin that said Williams had been checked five times in 2018 by June, more than other U.S. women and men in the sport.
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2018/07/serena-williams-says-its-unfair-shes-drug-tested-more/74918/ (http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2018/07/serena-williams-says-its-unfair-shes-drug-tested-more/74918/)
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Serena played the gender card, too. Like her opponent isn’t female :shrug:
That wasn't the point she was making.
Not excusing her outburst, but male tennis players have been far more out of line without punishment than she was.
It's a valid point. Male athletes are allowed to be babies without criticism or penalty, even with praise.
That said, I don't think ANY athlete should act like a child, including Serena.
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Osaka played an incredible tournament and final. Serena behaved very badly and that was the real shame.
This ^^^
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Rita Panahi Verified account @RitaPanahi
14h14 hours ago
Was Serena “sticking up for women’s rights†when she threatened violence against a female line judge in 2009 at the US Open or when she abused a female umpire during 2011 US Open or when she threatened to sue a female umpire at Wimbledon in 2016...
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Has Serina ever taken a chromosome test?
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Has Serina ever taken a chromosome test?
She just had a baby a year ago so my guess she is female.. :shrug:
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Richard Ings was a professional chair umpire from 1986 to 1993 and was ATP Tour Executive Vice-President, Rules and Competition, from 2001 to 2005. He was ump for the 1987 U.S. Open McEnroe match, where Johnny screamed and cursed at him. He writes:
... As someone that has sat in the umpire’s chair in front of a raucous full house US Open crowd and been tested under fire in front of a global television audience, I have a great deal of empathy and admiration for Ramos and his officiating.
In the course of this match, Ramos issued a warning, a point penalty and a game penalty against Williams for violations of the grand slam code of conduct. The warning was triggered when Williams' coach, Patrick Mouratoglou, made clear and repeated coaching gestures to his player on the court. For a professional umpire, keeping an eye on the coach is standard practice. All coaches know that such hand gestures are a breach of the code of conduct.
The point penalty was triggered when Williams destroyed her racquet on the court after having her serve broken. Apart from the bad look for the sport of a player violently breaking a racquet on court, it is also dangerous to on-court officials, ball persons and front-row spectators as shards go flying.
All players know that destroying a racquet on the court is a mandatory code violation.
The game penalty was triggered after Williams, in a lengthy tirade, loudly accused the umpire of being a "thief" stealing points from her. Ramos let the tirade slide, showing great composure until Williams accused him of cheating.
All players know that publicly attacking the honesty of the umpire is going to result in an immediate code violation.
Ramos made absolutely the correct calls as a chair umpire in each of these three incidents. ...
He concludes: However, Williams faced neither sexism or racism in this grand slam final. We should not let her record, as glowing as it is, overshadow the fact that on this day, in this match Williams was wrong.
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The decisions made by Ramos had nothing to do with sexism or racism. They had everything to do with observing clear breaches of the grand slam code of conduct and then having the courage to call them without fear or favour.
Read the whole thing at Sydney Morning Herald (https://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/it-is-serena-williams-who-owes-an-apology-to-umpire-carlos-ramos-20180909-p502q2.html)
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I have read and heard, about how hard it is to remain at the top of rock music stardom. I think that world class athletes have a similarly tough challenge, to keep going.It I is nothing new. One new top performer was advised by Quincy Joes, they had about four years, or so.
Leon Russell, who rose rapidly to stardom , wrote a song about it "Tight Rope" (He had been in the business as a top notch studio session musician for years, But when he hit the top. But he didn't last long at that level.)
The Beatles broke up. The Eagles broke up.
So compared to their peers, Serena Williams, Tiger Woods and Tom Brady have far exceeded expectaions.
Bjorn Borg's retirement at age 26 is noteworthy.
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Richard Ings was a professional chair umpire from 1986 to 1993 and was ATP Tour Executive Vice-President, Rules and Competition, from 2001 to 2005. He was ump for the 1987 U.S. Open McEnroe match, where Johnny screamed and cursed at him. He writes:
He concludes: Read the whole thing at Sydney Morning Herald (https://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/it-is-serena-williams-who-owes-an-apology-to-umpire-carlos-ramos-20180909-p502q2.html)
Nice. Puts it in perspective.
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... Now if this had been Venus Williams—one of the classiest and most gracious players of her generation—you might be able to read the sequence as an aberration, a moment where a player, in the heat of battle, was finally pushed over the line. Maybe she was wrong, but it's just a one-off.
But if you read it in the context of Serena's career, you see it for what it is: bullying.
Serena has a history of lashing out in big matches when she's getting beaten by inferior players. In 2009, Serena was getting worked by Kim Clijsters in the semis at the U.S. Open when she got called for a foot fault—again, the call itself was correct. She exploded in a tirade against the (female) line judge that included a physical threat. ...
In two of the three incidents, the supposedly wicked officials were women. In all three of them, Serena lost in straight sets to players who aren't even close to her league. Seen in this context, Serena's Saturday night outburst looks less like a "strong woman" being abused by an overreaching, sexist official and more like a bully trying to build an alibi for herself as she's losing a big match. ...
Jonathan V. Last, "Serena Williams Got What She Deserved." (https://www.weeklystandard.com/jonathan-v-last/serena-williams-u-s-open-final-controversy-she-got-what-she-deserved)
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Leon Russell, who rose rapidly to stardom , wrote a song about it "Tight Rope" (He had been in the business as a top notch studio session musician for years, But when he hit the top. But he didn't last long at that level.)
Billy Joel wrote a song with a similar sentiment...
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How awful for Osaka, to see her hero pitch a fit and act like a spoiled two-year old because Osaka beat her.
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Im sure she will sorely miss that $17K. /s
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Jonathan V. Last, "Serena Williams Got What She Deserved." (https://www.weeklystandard.com/jonathan-v-last/serena-williams-u-s-open-final-controversy-she-got-what-she-deserved)
Although I appreciate what the writer said about Serena deserving credit for never playing the race card, I'm not sure she deserves it - her sport truly is an international one. She'd be impugning literally EVERYONE & I do not believe she'd get the same sympathetic hearing she'd get here in the States alone.
Calling the occasional male judge out out as a sexist is relatively safe. And of course it will suffice to just threaten to stuff your racket down the errant female llne judge's throat.
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:seeya:
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Im sure she will sorely miss that $17K. /s
Maybe Nike will pay it for her. :pondering:
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That wasn't the point she was making.
Not excusing her outburst, but male tennis players have been far more out of line without punishment than she was.
It's a valid point. Male athletes are allowed to be babies without criticism or penalty, even with praise.
That said, I don't think ANY athlete should act like a child, including Serena.
Hold it. There is one big distinction.
Athletes, male and female, frequently, in the passion of the game, get upset. Most are punished. Unsportsmanlike conduct is a foul in every sport. But never, in my decades of life, have I ever heard any top level athlete tell an official "you owe me" anything. That's the line Ms. Williams crossed. It's not the anger or frustration; that's always been part of sport. It's the entitlement.
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Maybe Nike will pay it for her. :pondering:
"Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing a nominal fine."
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Not the first time... check out 1:00 and 1:55
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNwc7o_0Sgg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNwc7o_0Sgg)
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Im sure she will sorely miss that $17K. /s
Right? I mean, it was almost a whole PERCENT of her paycheck. Ouch.
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Right? I mean, it was almost a whole PERCENT of her paycheck. Ouch.
@Polly Ticks
It's not about the money lost from losing one match at her level. It's about ego,and EVERYBODY that is successful in life has a huge ego. You just can't be uber successful in life without being having an immense amount of self-confidence in your abilities.
Some people just seem to hide it better than others.
BTW,I just saw the press conference after the match today,and Serena stepped up to the line and congratulated and praised the young woman who beat her. Even smiled while hugging her. IMNSHO,this redeemed her character. That's not something easy to do in a competitive business,and the sports business is about as competitive as it gets.
My hat is off to her. Class move.
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Hold it. There is one big distinction.
Athletes, male and female, frequently, in the passion of the game, get upset. Most are punished. Unsportsmanlike conduct is a foul in every sport. But never, in my decades of life, have I ever heard any top level athlete tell an official "you owe me" anything. That's the line Ms. Williams crossed. It's not the anger or frustration; that's always been part of sport. It's the entitlement.
Point taken.
Just for the record, again........... there is NO excuse for Serena's behavior, and for the negative impact it had on Osaka's well deserved win.
The point I was making, and stand by, is that there is a standard of behavior for women in sports (and other competitive activities) that is not the same for men. Men are allowed more aggression without criticism most of the time. Women are not.
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@Polly Ticks
It's not about the money lost from losing one match at her level. It's about ego,and EVERYBODY that is successful in life has a huge ego. You just can't be uber successful in life without being having an immense amount of self-confidence in your abilities.
Some people just seem to hide it better than others.
BTW,I just saw the press conference after the match today,and Serena stepped up to the line and congratulated and praised the young woman who beat her. Even smiled while hugging her. IMNSHO,this redeemed her character. That's not something easy to do in a competitive business,and the sports business is about as competitive as it gets.
My hat is off to her. Class move.
I heard a commenter saying that Serena is the best tennis player right now, but she's definitely not a champion.
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Can we talk about the other elephant in the room. How the American audience treated Osaka? It was absolutely disgusting and shameful. They booed her and taunted her and brought her to tears. They should be ashamed.
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Can we talk about the other elephant in the room. How the American audience treated Osaka? It was absolutely disgusting and shameful. They booed her and taunted her and brought her to tears. They should be ashamed.
Agreed, and they should.
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Can we talk about the other elephant in the room. How the American audience treated Osaka? It was absolutely disgusting and shameful. They booed her and taunted her and brought her to tears. They should be ashamed.
I agree. I watched that final set and was very annoyed by their behavior.
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Can we talk about the other elephant in the room. How the American audience treated Osaka? It was absolutely disgusting and shameful. They booed her and taunted her and brought her to tears. They should be ashamed.
Completely agree. It was a shameful day all around.
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The point I was making, and stand by, is that there is a standard of behavior for women in sports (and other competitive activities) that is not the same for men. Men are allowed more aggression without criticism most of the time. Women are not.
Some tennis organizations agree with you:US Open 2018: Serena Williams' claims of sexism backed by WTA
Serena Williams' claims of sexism in the US Open final have been backed by the governing body of women's tennis.
WTA chief executive Steve Simon said the umpire showed Williams a different level of tolerance over Saturday's outbursts than if she had been a man.
She got a code violation for coaching, a penalty point for racquet abuse and a game penalty for calling the umpire a "thief" in the defeat by Naomi Osaka.
The American said it was "sexist" to have been penalised a game.
"The WTA believes that there should be no difference in the standards of tolerance provided to the emotions expressed by men versus women," Simon said in a statement.
"We do not believe that this was done last night." ...
The head of the United States Tennis Association (USTA), which organises the US Open, said men "are badgering the umpire on the changeovers and nothing happens".
"We watch the guys do this all the time," USTA chief Katrina Adams said.
"There's no equality when it comes to what the men are doing to the chair umpires and what the women are doing, and I think there has to be some consistency across the board.
"I'm all about gender equality and I think when you look at that situation these are conversations that will be imposed in the next weeks. We have to treat each other fairly and the same." ...
More at BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/45468290)
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Can we talk about the other elephant in the room. How the American audience treated Osaka? It was absolutely disgusting and shameful. They booed her and taunted her and brought her to tears. They should be ashamed.
Absolutely agree.
Everyone was all caught up in the the Serena ComebackTM narrative. (Apparently, she's the only woman to ever have played tennis after having given birth. Ever. In the history of the universe.)
They completely lost track of the fact that something very special was happening on the other side of the net. If Osaka continues to play the kind of tennis she played over the past 2 weeks, she's going to be a superstar in her own right.
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I heard a commenter saying that Serena is the best tennis player right now, but she's definitely not a champion.
@Sanguine
I know nothing about tennis,and have no interest in learning,but that does seem to be the prevailing viewpoint.
Having said that,she let her ego and anger get in the way of winning that match,and the other player kept her cool and stayed focused on the game. A pro can get away with that when playing average players,but not when playing against competitors that genuine contenders. It was her match to lose,and she lost it.
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@Sanguine
I know nothing about tennis,and have no interest in learning,but that does seem to be the prevailing viewpoint.
Having said that,she let her ego and anger get in the way of winning that match,and the other player kept her cool and stayed focused on the game. A pro can get away with that when playing average players,but not when playing against competitors that genuine contenders. It was her match to lose,and she lost it.
Well said, Pete.
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As for the sexism charge that umps don't punish male players for equally bad behavior, I say so what?
She sounded like a child insisting that because her brother got away with painting the cat or jumping off the roof, it wasn't fair to punish me for doing it. Two wrongs don't make a right, as Mother used to say! :laugh:
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As for the sexism charge that umps don't punish male players for equally bad behavior, I say so what?
She sounded like a child insisting that because her brother got away with painting the cat or jumping off the roof, it wasn't fair to punish me for doing it. Two wrongs don't make a right, as Mother used to say! :laugh:
"Life is not fair, and then you die" is another regular adage around our house.
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As for the sexism charge that umps don't punish male players for equally bad behavior, I say so what?
She sounded like a child insisting that because her brother got away with painting the cat or jumping off the roof, it wasn't fair to punish me for doing it. Two wrongs don't make a right, as Mother used to say! :laugh:
Mild disagreement with you here. There needs to be an even standard for both male and female competitors. (Big picture, not necessarily what was done to penalize Serena).
Even though I totally agree that life isn't "fair," when meting out punishments specifically for behavior, there needs to be a set standard that doesn't change based on your gender. IOW, "boys will be boys and can behave badly because they're boys" should not be the standard for behavior. (Again, not referring to this specific case, but to standards in general, which still don't allow for competitive, aggressive females).
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Mild disagreement with you here. There needs to be an even standard for both male and female competitors. (Big picture, not necessarily what was done to penalize Serena).
Even though I totally agree that life isn't "fair," when meting out punishments specifically for behavior, there needs to be a set standard that doesn't change based on your gender. IOW, "boys will be boys and can behave badly because they're boys" should not be the standard for behavior. (Again, not referring to this specific case, but to standards in general, which still don't allow for competitive, aggressive females).
I generally agree with you, except each instance must be evaluated individually, and each ump has his/her own limits. If a male player had 1) had his coach cheat by flashing signals; 2) slammed and broken his racket; and 3) called the ump a "thief," then he certainly should have faced the same one game penalty.
The bottom line is that the loss of that one game didn't lose Serena the match. She was losing the entire day. Naomi was whupping her and probably (almost certainly) would have won the match anyway.
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Mild disagreement with you here. There needs to be an even standard for both male and female competitors. (Big picture, not necessarily what was done to penalize Serena).
Even though I totally agree that life isn't "fair," when meting out punishments specifically for behavior, there needs to be a set standard that doesn't change based on your gender. IOW, "boys will be boys and can behave badly because they're boys" should not be the standard for behavior. (Again, not referring to this specific case, but to standards in general, which still don't allow for competitive, aggressive females).
The last bad boy tennis players I can remember are Jimmy Conners & John McEnroe, and they were always getting penalized points for their behavior.
Is there any guy playing today that has the reputation Williams has for pitching fits?
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The last bad boy tennis players I can remember are Jimmy Conners & John McEnroe, and they were always getting penalized points for their behavior.
Compared to Ilie Nastase, Connors and McEnroe were choirboys.
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I generally agree with you, except each instance must be evaluated individually, and each ump has his/her own limits. If a male player had 1) had his coach cheat by flashing signals; 2) slammed and broken his racket; and 3) called the ump a "thief," then he certainly should have faced the same one game penalty.
The bottom line is that the loss of that one game didn't lose Serena the match. She was losing the entire day. Naomi was whupping her and probably (almost certainly) would have won the match anyway.
No disagreement at all here.
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The last bad boy tennis players I can remember are Jimmy Conners & John McEnroe, and they were always getting penalized points for their behavior.
Is there any guy playing today that has the reputation Williams has for pitching fits?
Nope.
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Nope.
I note though that back when there were bad boys in tennis, that's when people watched tennis. You have players you liked and those you hated, and you watched.
Now, the players today have no personality, and there's relatively little interest in tennis today as there was back then.
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I used to watch Bjorn Borg. The story is that when he was a child playing tennis, he once threw a big tantrum a la Serena, Conners or McEnroe. His parents took away his racket and told him never ever to act like that again. And he didn't. He learned his lesson.
We still watched Sampras, Agassi, Evert, et al., back in the day. The only reason I don't watch more tennis is that I've kind of lost interest in it as I became more interested in other things. But a player's bad behavior never was a reason to follow him or her, at least for me.
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I don't watch any sport where the players scream and grunt on every return volley like they are dropping a loaf after long night binging on Taco Bell.
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I don't watch any sport where the players scream and grunt on every return volley like they are dropping a loaf after long night binging on Taco Bell.
It does get annoying, particularly the women's shrieks.
I used to like to listen to Gustavo Kuerten, though. His vocalizations were very musical; it almost sounded like singing.
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https://www.vox.com/2018/9/10/17841366/serena-williams-editorial-cartoon-racist (https://www.vox.com/2018/9/10/17841366/serena-williams-editorial-cartoon-racist)
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https://www.vox.com/2018/9/10/17841366/serena-williams-editorial-cartoon-racist (https://www.vox.com/2018/9/10/17841366/serena-williams-editorial-cartoon-racist)
LOL! I can 'see' how some would consider that racist.
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Serena deserved to lose. She played poorly and behaved boorishly.
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I note though that back when there were bad boys in tennis, that's when people watched tennis. You have splayers you liked and those you hated, and you watched.
Now, the players today have no personality, and there's relatively little interest in tennis today as there was back then.
I disliked both Connors and McEnroe intensely and rejoiced when they got beat. They set a poor example for American athletes.
One of my greatest joys in watching athletic competitions was when Arthur Ashe beat Connors at Wimbledon in '75. Ashe was a gentleman and the epitome of what an American athlete should be like. Connors was a egotistical brat who didn't know how to act professionally.
Ditto for McEnroe.
Both Connors and McEnroe were great players, but I don't care. Character counts more for me than just winning.