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Title: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: Skeptic on December 30, 2018, 06:00:30 pm
What are the states that wind doesn't exist?
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: Elderberry on December 30, 2018, 07:08:09 pm
What are the states that wind doesn't exist?

In an altered "state" of consciousness.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: mountaineer on December 30, 2018, 07:43:03 pm
None.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: corbe on December 30, 2018, 10:35:08 pm
   Floods affect me in the Texas Hill Country more than anything and I'm relatively safe at 978ft above msl.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 31, 2018, 01:50:48 am
What are the states that wind doesn't exist?
Where wind doesn't exist? Not in any U.S. state. Probably not anywhere on this planet, for that matter. Wind is a basic element of the atmosphere: if you have difference in temperature, you end up with wind.

But if you want no hurricanes and no tornadoes, your best bet is probably Washington State. The cold currents keep hurricanes well south. Ocean influences and windward mountains ensure that it's far more difficult to form tornadoes.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: Elderberry on December 31, 2018, 02:58:19 am
Though they still have wind events.

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Pacific Northwest windstorm

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Pacific Northwest windstorms, sometimes colloquially known as Big Blows,[1] are extratropical cyclones which form in the Pacific basin, and affect land areas in the Pacific Northwest of the United States and British Columbia, Canada. They form as cyclonic windstorms associated with areas of low atmospheric pressure that track across the North Pacific Ocean towards western North America. Deep low pressure areas are relatively common over the North Pacific. They are most common in the winter months. On average, the month when most windstorms form is December.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: Polly Ticks on December 31, 2018, 12:14:43 pm
Though they still have wind events.

And liberals.  Lots and lots of liberals.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 31, 2018, 12:17:29 pm
And liberals.  Lots and lots of liberals.
No wonder they believe in global warming with all that hot air....
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: NavyCanDo on January 02, 2019, 03:13:37 am
Where wind doesn't exist? Not in any U.S. state. Probably not anywhere on this planet, for that matter. Wind is a basic element of the atmosphere: if you have difference in temperature, you end up with wind.

But if you want no hurricanes and no tornadoes, your best bet is probably Washington State. The cold currents keep hurricanes well south. Ocean influences and windward mountains ensure that it's far more difficult to form tornadoes.

Washington just had a tornado that destroyed more than a dozen homes.  We have an average of 2 a year, though rarely much damage.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: Skeptic on January 02, 2019, 03:18:50 am
Washington just had a tornado that destroyed more than a dozen homes.  We have an average of 2 a year, though rarely much damage.

I imagine this place without wind is probably very cold.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: NavyCanDo on January 02, 2019, 04:10:07 am
I imagine this place without wind is probably very cold.

Nope.  WA  has a vert temperate climate, extremes dont happen, rarely touching the teens in the dead of winter nor upper 90s in Summer at least in western WA, but winter will get you lots of rain, and a few wind storms with just an occasional snow fall. Now the mountains is a different story with 16 feet of snow possible.
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Post by: 240B on January 02, 2019, 04:27:13 am
The only place on Earth that is without wind is under the ocean, and even they have currents (which is a type of wind). However, there is a place where the streets have no name. Bono has been there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXKFbOTQ1HQ
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: NavyCanDo on January 02, 2019, 04:55:08 am
A place with no wind. Why would anyone want that. What would wave a Flag, fly a kite, blow away stagnant smelly air, provide comfort on a hot summer day.
 Now if you are looking for states with less chances of damaging tornadoes, yes the NW  or Alaska is it, but we are not without damaging wind storms, earthquakes, and remembering 1980 volcanos.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 02, 2019, 02:06:04 pm
Washington just had a tornado that destroyed more than a dozen homes.  We have an average of 2 a year, though rarely much damage.
I did some looking and that indeed is one of the lowest rates of tornadoes in the nation.

New England is the only other area of the country with less, but I suspect part of that is simply because they're so geographically small. Tornado touchdowns are like throwing at a dartboard, and a bigger state under the same conditions is going to have more of them than a tiny state like Rhode Island.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kU8-o3cjguE/TnDetP8FckI/AAAAAAAABNY/blja9XINw08/s1600/AvgTornadoesbyState1981-2010.png)
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 02, 2019, 02:10:33 pm
Population density may affect reporting in some states as well. Parts of Wyoming, Montana, and the Dakotas could have tornadoes no one even sees.
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Post by: Restored on January 02, 2019, 02:11:35 pm
The Appalachian hills have few tornadoes. We have lots of wind. Gusts up to 50mph happen frequently in the winter but we usually avoid extremes.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: Skeptic on January 02, 2019, 10:13:53 pm
I just learned that tornados form ground up, so I guess that makes the title of this thread moot.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: roamer_1 on January 02, 2019, 10:28:00 pm
I imagine this place without wind is probably very cold.

Too much wind can do the same. The Rockies are pretty free of tornadoes, because the wind shear is crazy in the mountains - In some forty years here, I have only seen two, and both of those were water spouts over the big lake - and died close to shore. Conditions where a tornado could survive to touch down would have to be literally perfect.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: Sanguine on January 02, 2019, 11:56:53 pm
I just learned that tornados form ground up, so I guess that makes the title of this thread moot.

It was moot before it got started.
Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: Sighlass on January 03, 2019, 12:19:56 am
If you want to know where most strong tornadoes (F5) hit, it is North Alabama. Some triangle in North Bama has the most tornadoes per year in the space allotted. Lets just say, I would not care to live on Sand Mountain. Alabama also claims the most tornado deaths...

https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/04/alabama_is_bulls-eye_for_stron.html (https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/04/alabama_is_bulls-eye_for_stron.html)


Title: Re: Where hurricanes can't reach and tornados can't land
Post by: Victoria33 on January 03, 2019, 12:39:59 am
   Floods affect me in the Texas Hill Country more than anything and I'm relatively safe at 978ft above msl.
@corbe
@mystery-ak 

You know I live in Texas also.  Years ago, it was so hot, I looked for a cool place in the United States and was going to pack a bag and go there; I seriously was.  THERE WAS NO COOL PLACE IN THE U.S. AT THAT TIME.  I was surprised I had no place to go - turned down the air conditioner and didn't go out unless it was important.