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General Category => Military/Defense News => Topic started by: mystery-ak on September 05, 2019, 02:11:09 pm
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Here's Every Military Construction Project in the U.S. Being Pushed Back to Fund Trump's Border Wall
By Chantal Da Silva On 9/5/19 at 6:23 AM EDT
As the government continues to face backlash over its decision to divert $3.6 billion in funding for military construction projects to the development of President Donald Trump's long-promised wall, we now have a clearer picture of which initiatives will be affected.
In a letter, which was first reported on by The Daily Beast,Defense Secretary Mark Esper outlined 127 projects expected to lose a total of $1.7 billion in funding. While Esper said that money would not be pulled away from "family housing, barracks, or dormitory projects," the list reveals an array of initiatives within the U.S. and around the world that will be affected.
Among the initiatives that will be impacted by the funding diversion are educational facilities for children, weapon maintenance facilities and firing ranges.
Below is the full list of military initiatives that will be affected in the U.S. and its territories:
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https://www.newsweek.com/us-military-projects-trump-border-wall-funding-1457790?piano_t=1 (https://www.newsweek.com/us-military-projects-trump-border-wall-funding-1457790?piano_t=1)
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Damn...I don't know if I'd trade off those projects to renovate the border wall, tbh.
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Damn...I don't know if I'd trade off those projects to renovate the border wall, tbh.
You aren't from the Desert Southwest, are you? This may come as a bit of a shock: Not everybody shares your apparent belief that borders are secondary to pork.
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You aren't from the Desert Southwest, are you? This may come as a bit of a shock: Not everybody shares your apparent belief that borders are secondary to pork.
You're right. Some of it is pork. A lot of the projects still seem more essential as the wall.
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Damn...I don't know if I'd trade off those projects to renovate the border wall, tbh.
@OfTheCross
I'd be willing to bring all US troops home and park the US Navy in ports if that is what it takes to fund sealing our borders.
After all,most of the US military abroad is working to defend other countries,not ours,and should probably be back home,anyhow. The only exception would be special operations units that need to develop personal contacts with their peers in other armies.
What good is a military if there is nothing left at home for them to defend?
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You're right. Some of it is pork. A lot of the projects still seem more essential as the wall.
To people who have had loved ones murdered by the invading horde of illegal aliens, the wall is the most essential. FYI, you are talking to just one of them.
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@OfTheCross
I'd be willing to bring all US troops home and park the US Navy in ports if that is what it takes to fund sealing our borders.
After all,most of the US military abroad is working to defend other countries,not ours,and should probably be back home,anyhow. The only exception would be special operations units that need to develop personal contacts with their peers in other armies.
What good is a military if there is nothing left at home for them to defend?
:yowsa:
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@OfTheCross
I'd be willing to bring all US troops home and park the US Navy in ports if that is what it takes to fund sealing our borders.
After all,most of the US military abroad is working to defend other countries,not ours,and should probably be back home,anyhow. The only exception would be special operations units that need to develop personal contacts with their peers in other armies.
What good is a military if there is nothing left at home for them to defend?
goopo
The most idiotic thing in the world today is how we guard Iraq's borders better than we guard our own.
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To people who have had loved ones murdered by the invading horde of illegal aliens, the wall is the most essential. FYI, you are talking to just one of them.
I'm sorry for your loss. I'm sure the people who have had family members murdered in mass shootings think gun reform is most essential as well.
Something should, and can be done. I don't necessarily agree with taking money from other projects to do it.
@OfTheCross
I'd be willing to bring all US troops home and park the US Navy in ports if that is what it takes to fund sealing our borders.
After all,most of the US military abroad is working to defend other countries,not ours,and should probably be back home,anyhow. The only exception would be special operations units that need to develop personal contacts with their peers in other armies.
What good is a military if there is nothing left at home for them to defend?
That's not a bad idea
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@OfTheCross
I'd be willing to bring all US troops home and park the US Navy in ports if that is what it takes to fund sealing our borders.
After all,most of the US military abroad is working to defend other countries,not ours,and should probably be back home,anyhow. The only exception would be special operations units that need to develop personal contacts with their peers in other armies.
What good is a military if there is nothing left at home for them to defend?
@sneakypete
Damn straight.
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@OfTheCross
I'd be willing to bring all US troops home and park the US Navy in ports if that is what it takes to fund sealing our borders.
After all,most of the US military abroad is working to defend other countries,not ours,and should probably be back home,anyhow. The only exception would be special operations units that need to develop personal contacts with their peers in other armies.
What good is a military if there is nothing left at home for them to defend?
:yowsa: pointing-up
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I'm sorry for your loss. I'm sure the people who have had family members murdered in mass shootings think gun reform is most essential as well.
Thank you. You could not be more wrong about gun "reform," unless you mean overturning all anti-gun laws, starting with the one passed in 1934. Thinking family members of the murdered do not want to be disarmed, lest they themselves fall victim to the invaders. If my family is attacked, I want a machine gun to protect them, not laws that are ignored by the very people I need to defend us from.
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Thank you. You could not be more wrong about gun "reform," unless you mean overturning all anti-gun laws, starting with the one passed in 1934. Thinking family members of the murdered do not want to be disarmed, lest they themselves fall victim to the invaders. If my family is attacked, I want a machine gun to protect them, not laws that are ignored by the very people I need to defend us from.
I would like like to be armed and make it as difficult as possible for insane people to get guns. We can do both.
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I would like like to be armed and make it as difficult as possible for insane people to get guns. We can do both.
It would be nice if the political left shared those desires, but they don't.
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I would like like to be armed and make it as difficult as possible for insane people to get guns. We can do both.
It's not the guns - it's the crazy/evil people that is the issue. If they can't get their hands on guns, as we have seen so many times, they will use whatever they can get their hands on.
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I would like like to be armed and make it as difficult as possible for insane people to get guns. We can do both.
I'm sure we could. The problem is many of the people who will be writing the legislation consider political disagreement with them 'insane'.
No thanks.
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I would like like to be armed and make it as difficult as possible for insane people to get guns. We can do both.
Who gets to determine who is insane and who is not? That is the question.
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Who gets to determine who is insane and who is not? That is the question.
Judges. They know everything.
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Judges. They know everything.
Right! Exactly the problem.
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Judges. They know everything.
And if the Rats get their way, that job will be fobbed off on vindictive "family members" (including exes) and the crooked shrinks they pay off. No abuse potential there, no sirree.
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It's not the guns - it's the crazy/evil people that is the issue. If they can't get their hands on guns, as we have seen so many times, they will use whatever they can get their hands on.
Okay. We can treat the crazies too. There's plenty of crazy people out there that aren't murderous. We should treat them so they don't go off the deep end.
There are many things we can do to try and help the situation
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And if the Rats get their way, that job will be fobbed off on vindictive "family members" (including exes) and the crooked shrinks they pay off. No abuse potential there, no sirree.
Absolutely! ****slapping
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Hey! Y'all got me doing it! LOL. This isn't a gun thread, it's about funding the border barrier.
Please ignore my posts and let's get back on topic. My fault.
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Okay. We can treat the crazies too. There's plenty of crazy people out there that aren't murderous. We should treat them so they don't go off the deep end.
There are many things we can do to try and help the situation
I may have been too subtle. GUNS AREN'T THE PROBLEM.
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Hey! Y'all got me doing it! LOL. This isn't a gun thread, it's about funding the border barrier.
Please ignore my posts and let's get back on topic. My fault.
:facepalm2: (Me, not you.)
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I may have been too subtle. GUNS AREN'T THE PROBLEM.
Maybe I'm also being too subtle. What are some solutions? I'm not trying to go back and forth about whether guns are the problem or not
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Okay. We can treat the crazies too. There's plenty of crazy people out there that aren't murderous. We should treat them so they don't go off the deep end.
There are many things we can do to try and help the situation
There are many things we can try, but there is only one solution that will work in 99% of mass shooting cases, guaranteed - universal right to carry.
And it has the added side benefit of actually ENHANCING our liberties rather than diminishing them. Whats not to love?
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I wonder how the Soviet Union used to deal with political dissidents. Anybody know?
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I wonder how the Soviet Union used to deal with political dissidents. Anybody know?
They don't have any, do they @Bigun? And, besides that was so long ago.
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There are many things we can try, but there is only one solution that will work in 99% of mass shooting cases, guaranteed - universal right to carry.
And it has the added side benefit of actually ENHANCING our liberties rather than diminishing them. Whats not to love?
It's easy enough to get a gun as at is. Even with universal carry not everyone is going to want one. That's not guaranteed to stop anything. The guy in Ohio killed shot 30 people in 30 seconds and killed 10 of them.
We need to stop crazy people from having guns.
We need to stop people from going crazy.
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They don't have any, do they @Bigun? And, besides that was so long ago.
Not for long anyway @sanquine because they had them declared insane and sent them to the "hospital " pretty quick like.
Yeah! What a fool I must be thinking we should learn from history like that! :whistle:
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It's easy enough to get a gun as at is. Even with universal carry not everyone is going to want one. That's not guaranteed to stop anything. The guy in Ohio killed shot 30 people in 30 seconds and killed 10 of them.
We need to stop crazy people from having guns.
We need to stop people from going crazy.
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers"
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I wonder how the Soviet Union used to deal with political dissidents. Anybody know?
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Not for long anyway @sanquine because they had them declared insane and sent them to the "hospital " pretty quick like.
Yeah! What a fool I must be thinking we should learn from history like that! :whistle:
You silly fool.
I had a high school teacher that had The Gulag Archipelago as required reading.
Guess what? (according to Wikipedia)
Since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, The Gulag Archipelago has been officially published, and since 2009, is mandatory reading as part of the Russian school curriculum. An abridged fiftieth-anniversary edition was released on 1 November 2018 with a new foreword by Jordan Peterson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gulag_Archipelago
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You silly fool.
I had a high school teacher that had The Gulag Archipelago as required reading.
Guess what? (according to Wikipedia)
Since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, The Gulag Archipelago has been officially published, and since 2009, is mandatory reading as part of the Russian school curriculum. An abridged fiftieth-anniversary edition was released on 1 November 2018 with a new foreword by Jordan Peterson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gulag_Archipelago
That is interesting, @bigheadfred. And, a good sign. Wish we would do the same thing.
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That is interesting, @bigheadfred. And, a good sign. Wish we would do the same thing.
Maybe we should start by trying to teach people how to READ.
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Title (which tries its best to be alarming):
"Here's Every Military Construction Project in the U.S. Being Pushed Back to Fund Trump's Border Wall"
The most important instrumentality to ensure our national security today and in the future IS the border wall.
Shut down whatever is necessary (at the Pentagon and elsewhere) to fund it and get it built !
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Maybe we should start by trying to teach people how to READ.
There's that.
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Title (which tries its best to be alarming):
"Here's Every Military Construction Project in the U.S. Being Pushed Back to Fund Trump's Border Wall"
The most important instrumentality to ensure our national security today and in the future IS the border wall.
Shut down whatever is necessary (at the Pentagon and elsewhere) to fund it and get it built !
That's what I think about it. What point is there to spend $Bazillions basing soldiers all over the world while our own border goes unsecured, and thousands of illegal gang-bangers swarm the border? Seems to me it's stupid to agonize all the pork barrel projects that are going to have to wait.
Sounds like a Rat talking point, doesn't it? :pondering:
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Exactly! Millions of them.
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The guy with his hand in his coat.
Napolean. Right?
@Bigun
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The guy with his hand in his coat.
Napolean. Right?
@Bigun
Of course @bigheadfred! Joseph Napolean (Uncle Joe) Stalin.
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Of course @bigheadfred! Joseph Napolean (Uncle Joe) Stalin.
He's the one running for POTUS? I thought his name was Biden-my-time and not Stalin, but I guess there isn't much difference. :shrug: